How to Brand McCain and Palin as Liars
By Anonymous Liberal Friday Sep 12, 2008 1:04pmOver the past two weeks, the lies emanating from the McCain/Palin campaign have become so brazen that even the most cynical campaign reporters are clearly taken aback. While lies are commonplace in politics, you rarely see candidates continue to repeat factual claims that have been widely debunked in the media, especially claims about biographical facts (lying about your opponent's policy positions is another matter).
The fact that McCain and Palin continue to tell these tall tales about Palin's record in Alaska is aggravating--there's no question--but it also presents the Obama campaign with a golden opportunity. The key to exploiting that opportunity, however, is not to get angry or to join in the lying game. Neither of those tactics ever work well for Democrats. The key to fighting back is to brand McCain and Palin as liars through the use of mockery. I realize that everyone and their brother is playing the role of armchair political consultant at the moment, but please indulge me for thirty seconds.
Here's how I imagine Obama responding:
"You know, I was listening to Governor Palin today and she repeated--for what must be the 20th time--a claim that every news organization has already disproved. She said she "told Congress 'thanks but no thanks' to the Bridge to Nowhere." Then I heard John McCain speak and he repeated that same false claim, along with several others that have been disproved: she didn't ask for any earmarks, she sold the plane on Ebay, she fired the personal chef, and so on . . . . and while I was listening to all that, something occurred to me. I've been doing this all wrong! You see, I've been limiting what I say to things that are actually true. But campaigning is so much easier when can just make stuff up.
So today I wanted to share with you some things I never have before. For starters, did I ever mention that back in my Chicago days I played professional basketball for the Chicago Bulls? It's true: when Jordan retired, they wanted me to take over at guard, but I said "thanks but no thanks; I've got a job to do in the state Senate." Oh, and I don't think I've mentioned this before either, but my running mate, Joe Biden, he once wrestled a live grizzly bear...and he won! He also once sold the entire state of Delaware on Ebay. I kid you not.
I don't know about you, but I feel liberated. This whole "telling the truth" thing was really holding me back. Now I know how John McCain feels when he says that I'm going to raise your taxes, even though every independent organization who's looked at it says that my plan gives you a bigger tax cut than his. Well, I say to you John McCain: two can play at that game.
Did you know that John McCain will raise every American's taxes by 800,000%? I made that up just now, but it's as true as anything he's telling you, so there you go. Oh, and under his plan, if you fall behind on a house payment, Phil Gramm and a team of monkeys show up and take your house away. It's true. I swear. How do you think he got all those other houses that he doesn't even know he has?"
Okay, that's enough. Hopefully you get the gist. The goal is to create a narrative, to brand McCain and Palin as borderline pathological liars. If done effectively, the press would absolutely eat this up and would play the soundbite over and over again. They are suckers for good humor and they already believe the basis of the narrative. This tactic would turn McCain and Palin's lying into an ongoing joke, one that would pay dividends throughout the remainder of the campaign. If, for instance, either McCain or Palin were to repeat a lie during the debates, all Obama and Biden would have to do is say--in classic Reagan fashion--"there you go again" and everyone would instantly know what they meant. This tactic would work. I'm sure of it.
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Here's a list of McCain camp lies I've seen exposed in articles I've read just in the last half-hour.
Riddle: When's the Only Time McCain DOESN'T Lie?
Sound like a great strategy! How do we get the Obama camp to see this?
Very funny! I didn't know you had such a talent for teh humor.
That gave me a couple of good laughs this morning. Thanks.
I think it's brilliant. It would definitely get people talking, and certainly a ton of press coverage.
okay, OT, but here's my 5 seconds, and my new bumper sticker:
McCain/Palin Jan.09-Apr.09;
Palin/? Apr. 09-?
"If the real thing don't do the trick
You better make up something quick"
Ooh-- Barracuda! Ohhh yeh!
I’ve been doing this all wrong!
nope. can't go there.
but for that, it's a good tactic...
A couple of thoughts. First don't call them factual events, if they are lies they are not factual. Second, don't call them tall tales, they are LIES. Tall tales sounds a little warm and folksy. They are telling LIES. Bald faced, undeniable LIES.
I think the message is getting around. The news media are even coming around to calling them LIARS. I find it funny that the ladies on the VIEW are now like Jon Stewart, willing to stand up and say things when the "regular" news media aren't. But even the "regular" news people are beginning to call John McCain a LIAR. I think that Obama has come out with a statement that the campaign has LIED.
I think word is getting around, and will continue to get around.
JOHN MCCAIN IS A LIAR.
I'm all in favor of the approach that is being suggested here, although I do see (at least) two problems with it:
1. Will the press cover it?
2. If the press does cover it, will the average yummie out there be able to grasp it?
Just askin'...
The only problem with this method is that if many citizens cannot distinguish basic facts from fiction, cannot understand a basic analogy about a pig and lipstick, and readily accept over the top claims that Obama, a father of two small girls, would compel them to learn about sex in kindergarten, what chance is there that these citizens will understand sarcasm?
foolme1ns @ 10:
Indeed, enough with the pussy footing and the PC crap.
John McCain Hires Jon Lovitz as His New Ad Man
You're not serious are you?
The way to brand McCain and Palin as liars... is to CALL THEM LIARS. The first time I heard anyone do that in the national media was last week on the new Rachel Maddow... from the lips of Rachel Maddow. Since then, the notion of McCain's lies and flip-flops, Palin's lies and exaggerations, and the un-inhibited falsehoods of their campaign has begun to pop up all over the place. And so it should.
By comparison... Obama looks SMART, UNCOMPROMISING, LEVEL HEADED, and TRUTHFUL. I'd say that's good for Obama... and NOT for the liars.
ShotoJamf @ 11:
They don't have to wait for the press to cover it. They have plenty of money to buy airtime, don't they?
i wonder how many hundreds of dollars keith has donated yet? anyone know?
The low information voter won't get it. Just promise them a pony and 10 gallons of free gas.
And I just said "Thanks, but no thanks" to that Sarah from nowhere.
I am MORE AFRAID of someone who lies with reckless abandon, than I am of anyone else, period.
And the new John McCain is not the same one I voted for in 2000. That John McCain would not have resorted to telling lies.
To say that I am disappointed, is an understatement.
What has happened to him, I do not know, but whatever it is, It is sickening.
But in the end (of this political process), one thing will be perfectly clear:
Americans would have gotten the kind of leader they want or deserve, whoever that person happens to be.
*SIGH*
McLiar
GREAT chart on proportionality of Fed Earmarks by state. Guess which state is
biggest by far???
http://services.alphaworks.ibm.com/manyeyes/view/SgjIIQsOtha6yb~kiotJQ2~
Good idea. Hope Obama (aka: Ironman) learns about the idea to use against McSame (aka: Two-Face)
Palin never went to Iraq
Are they telling truth AT ALL?
Like the old SLN skit "Yeah, that's the ticket"
I read what I consider to be a _great_ anti-campaign slogan on another site:
"McCain/Palin - The Campaign to Nowhere..."
Kinda bundles it all up into a tight little package. Not exactly sure how to use it, but IMHO, it's worthy.
-ek
StirFry, holy shit!!!!!!
Thanks for the link.
The below quote shows the McCain campaign acutely understands and is clearly taking advantage of the complete failure of the MSM:
(From the NYT)
Thanks MSM!
personally, I think both of these people could be pushed over the edge with a little coaxing.
Palin with Charlie. Did you see how upset she seemed to be at times? (scared, whatever..)
McSame with the View hit squad. Did you see him get mad, almost as to want to hit someone, and then got himself calmed down again a short while later?
This should be priority #1 for some good reporter to persue. Wait till they have them in front of a crowd, like maybe on hardball live somewhere. Then start pushing for answers and attack the lies in a way they might be too embarrassed to get up and walk off.
I feel it in my bones, these two could go pop. And I for one, would LOVE to see it happen.
Someone just needs to give them the right push.
Since they ARE liars, it shouldn't be that difficult.
Here's one that he actually admitted to, from NY Magazine:
Quote from: http://nymag.com/news/politics/encyclopedia/biggest-lie/
This is fucking brilliant! Anonymous Liberal, you now have the utterly uncoveted Hieronymus Briantree seal of approval. This is the first time I've been wowed by something I've read in a blog in a very loooong time.
I wish we had more strategist thinking like you. In fact, based on what I've seen, I wish we had at least one strategist thinking like you.
McNocchio / PaLiar 2008
Republican Maverick Bamboozlers
Hate rain on you but that was crap.
Try doing it in a funny way. And don't make shit up just stick to the truth. Republicans would be all over that crap. They are extremely stupid people and have no idea what humor is when it doesn't involve someone farting or getting hurt. That is why they use talking point so it is easy to remember because these people have tiny little closed minds.
Brilliant! The Obama folks need to frame McCain and Palin as liars at every opportunity they get! Eventually the media will have no choice but to take up the story line, just like they did with Gore. Except in this case McCain and Palin are liars and aren't being taken out of context like Gore was.
My little homemade 30 second Palin PSA I posted the other day mocks the "celebrity" thing, turning it back on Palin, and then simply asks viewers to decide whether she is in fact "heartbeat-away" worthy, (implicitly given her thin file, irrespective of how corrupt it may be).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUWLIsK7s0g
Eyes On The Prize. Stay away from the lurid tabloid shit.
From a forward making the rounds, if you haven't seen it:
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....
If you grow up in Hawaii , raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic, different."
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers: a quintessential American story.
If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
Name your kids Willow , Trig, and Track: you're a maverick.
Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.
Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating: you're well grounded.
If you spend 3 years as a community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
If your total resume is: local weather girl (sports caster), 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with fewer than 650,000 people, then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking executive.
If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real Christian.
If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.
If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America 's.
If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DUI conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA , your family is extremely admirable.
OK, much clearer now.
maybe SNL could even get jon lovitz to come on and play mccain alongside tina fey's palin...?
"eah... we're the ticket..."
*yeah
Peter Rozlucki @ 3:
Or better yet......how does one get the Obama camp to turn liberal?
I agree with the first paragraph. It's enough mockery. The overkill of the paragraphs that follow detract.
But the first paragraph is a zinger.
I agree 100%--they need to pound away at the LIE narrative--and the Jordan line is incredible.
StirFry @ 24:
another stretch of the truth... okay, fine, another bold-faced LIE
they sure know how to work it... let's hope this one sticks too like her earmark spending, total flip on global warming and mccain's total lack of palin knowledge on the view.
i hope they like the taste of dirt 'cuz they're plate is getting full.
StirFry @ 24:
Pretty similar to Chimpy &co's midnight visits to Kuwait for PR photo ops, they arrive after dark then hold a moonlight photo shoot,
that famous plastic turkey thanksgiving one springs to mind.
then depart before the restless natives are awake and able to sight a SA7 or RPG.
*their
erm
CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 15:
you are correct... i'll concede to good rational thinking...
the first time i heard them called LIES was that morning, on the TODAY show, and it was some guy from the obama camp, can't recall his name, nor find my comment about it at TP...
but i do remember sitting up, in bed, with a huge grin, when he told matt lauer that the mcCON statements were LIES... and repeated it... and matt wanted it clear, and it was made clear...
and i knew then, the floodgates were open and it was time... obama had given the OK.
none too soon!
I am sure Palin has accomplished a lot more while she was a city councilwoman, mayor, and a governor. Her favorite quote is, "I said, thanks, but no, thanks," sounds childish.
Grow up, Palin! You can explain in detail for the wicked dems who are after your life, lol.
Moreover, what do you folks expect from Alaska,that inspiring, beautiful, rugged mountaineous town or state? Palin has climbed those mountains, killed those animals, and walked the rough paths of Alaska. She is tough and is well suited to be our VP. She is honest, direct, and caring. You need someone who is not a lobbyist, politician, crook, friend of a politician, son of a politican, etc.
What about Obama?
"The goal is to create a narrative, to brand McCain and Palin as borderline pathological liars."
Wrong! All this does is to focus the discussion on character and not on the issues.
We know that McCain's camp cannot discuss the issues, because (a) they are part of the problem, and (b) they have no solution set. They can't discuss the issues, but they can lie and attack Obama's and Biden's character, which detracts from their inabilities.
When confronted with bullshit from my Republican friends, I have found it effective to respond with a narrative along the line, "Well, you can try to believe the many lies these guys have told, and which have been continuously debunked, but I think it's much more important to discuss how we are going to solve..." I pick an issue to solve that my friends find important, but that McCain hasn't properly addressed and that Obama has.
In this way, I explicitly call them out as liars without triggering a defensive posture (cognitive dissonance), and force them to focus on an issue they find important. I've had excellent results with this strategy. Several of my friends ultimately respond with, "Well, I still haven't made up my mind who I'm going to vote for," and "You may be right. I think both of these guys are empty suits, so I'm not going to vote for anyone." If the response is an argument about character, I again force the narrative to the issues.
Fighting fire with fire may be a sound approach to a forest fire, but not when it comes to dealing with cognitive dissonance, stupidity, Kool Aid drinkers, or those who think the best defense is mockery.
Europeans initially had a good laugh about Palin but now they're having more serious concerns. They're waiting for the new leader of the free world and that's why they welcomed Obama. Furthermore, Europeans also feel they have a stake in this because the European Central Bank helped bail out Fannie, Freddie and Lehman Brothers.
One thing that you can do is send the viral video link to every one you know... Glenn Greenwald prepared it and it kicks McCain ass!
McCain's Lies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH0xzsogzAk
GG @ 25:
Live from New York....it's Saturday Night!!!! Premiere's tonight of SNL on NBC at 11:30 EST.
Obama was going to do a cameo then just declined due to Hurricane Ike.
Lorne Michaels is in negotiations with Tina Fey to do a recurring role as Gov. Sarah Palin up until the election. There's a very good chance she'll be doing Palin tonight.
Should be a great show! Hopefully the public will learn to view Sarah Palin for what she really is. A joke.
(Memo to John: Ohio State or SC fan??!) Go Buckeyes!!!!
Lilybelle @ 41:
Agreed. Don't mention yourself in a satirical way, Barack. Just hammer at McLiar and Moosejaw.
I'm tired of watching Dems get spanked. I wrote a
short post with my own suggestions for ads. Too bad that none of this would ever happen (nor would your suggestion about truth-telling on Crooks and Liars ever happen) - the Dems seem to be allergic to effective campaigning. Ugh.
EZ @ 47:
Didn't I tell you to go away? On another thread?
one hundred millions dollars in begged for earmark monies for 08, thats how tough rugged and independant the Alakaskan Republicans are,
they dont go cap in hand to their oil company buddies (who get major subsidization from the taxpayer) they get it from the lower 48.
This is awesome! =D
Here is something that may help to lower the angst
Just read this blast from the Obama campaign, over at Kos. It is from Obama campaign person, Bill Burton. And originally posted at Politico.
""We will take no lectures from John McCain who is cynically running the sleaziest and least honorable campaign in modern Presidential campaign history. His discredited ads with disgusting lies are running all over the country today. He runs a campaign not worthy of the office he is seeking."
remember this little gem mcLiar on the doubleTalk express......i suspect will see this again
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OunCv-7qvA
ronnyg @ 7:
Palin/Dobson
Palin/Stevens
Palin/First Dude Todd
Lots of other possibilities...
Cheers,
Centrocitta @ 49:
Europeans have moved on. Their only concern is that an idiot like Palin should not have access to the world's largest nuclear arsenal.
There is this misconception that the rest of the world is waiting in pins and needles for Americans to get their act together, because for some reason they are the god-anointed
"leaders of the free world."
2004 was our chance to redeem ourselves, we blew it, the rest of the world moved on. It is time we do the same.
I've done my part. Just learned how to use Windows Movie Maker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty8AxlGEl_Y
Wyatt_Earl @ 22:
Great stuff, AL. If Obama made a statement like that, it would be fantastic - and give him the news cycle.
oncall @ 57:
Thanks for posting that. Much needed.
CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 15:
You'd THINK that would be enough, wouldn't you? But I've been absolutely astounded at the Repugs' ability to deny the facts that are right in front of their faces. The way some people have fallen right in line behind this Sarah Palin nomination makes me wonder if our country has simply gone insane. Everytime I read an endorsement or a letter to the editor praising this woman, my mouth just hangs open and I think, "really?" "Is that what you REALLYthink?" "you actually think that either of these people are capable of leading a country?" "What the hell is wrong with you people?"
The plane that Palin sold.
As I understand the facts;
-She tried to sell it multiple times on ebay but failed.
-It was finally sold through a broker at a loss from its cost.
-The majority of the time, the plane was used to transport prisoners.
My questions are;
How are they transporting prisoners now?
and
Why does the passenger in the next row look so scary?
Take on the "War Hero" mantle that McCain proudly wears. Show how he has sold out to get elected, and then use Randy Cunningham to remind people that war heroes can sell out there country.
Or SNL could invent a new character, "Nanookie of the North."
She's the gun-toting, polar-bear riding queen of wild Alaska!
She can deck a crab fisherman with a right cross, convert him with a Christian one, then charm him with her feminine wiles!
She dresses in furs that she trapped and skinned herself!
She became mayor by killing the previous one in hand-to-hand combat!
She cuts government pork with an Inuit hunting knife, then chews whale blubber with the natives!
And when it's time to boogey, this girl can disco! [cue BeeGee's "Six Month Night Fever"]
The first paragraph was perfect.
You've just won my coveted POTD award.
EZ @ 47:
He's not full of sh@t like you and your two little friends.
Now that was easy.
EZ @ 47:
What about Obama..........he's campaigning to be president. Palin was picked by mccain's people(not him)
she is being shoved down the publics throats. let's see
oh ....yeah obama won the democratic nominee position.
when asked about Palin's experience especially foreign
policy experience....the answer becomes a question.
Palin is the weakest link......her education,time as governor and we see now she doesn't know the BUSH
doctrine. she is lying about earmarks and the brand
reformer doesn't hold true.
when you answer a question by saying but if you ask any of the last vice president nominees about meeting a foreign leader you would get a similar answer.
but...but..but...what a...bout executive experience bullshxt mccain
doesn't have any.
mccain and palin have resorted to bald face lying. that
sex education for kindergardeners was unbelievable to
me that was crossing the line. i watched the 'pig' 'lipstick'......obvious lie by mccain. ask orrin hatch about.....he said it was ridiculous saying obama was speaking of Palin.....the RED team wants something like that so bad so they can scream sexist....you people are
DIRTY.
He could say, "Actually, McCain & Palin are both Afro-American. I am Cherokee."
fuck it...they are even lying about the size of crowds at the mccain/palin rallies
its time for push polling
get call lists and ask the respondents would you be more or less likely to vote for mccain/palin if you knew that cindy was a drug addict and bristol and track palin use meth
its time to get into the mud
destroy these fucks
The Say Anything Express - is there anything they won't lie about?
But John McCain doesn't lie because he is a former prisoner of war.
I am of course being very sarcastic.
I am tired of all of the lies.
That's great. I think we're on to something here.
Don Davis @ 2:
when he keeps his mouth shut!
Abbybwood @ 51:
didnt fey say that bitch is the new black?
who's a bigger bitch than palin?:
Using mockery and humor is effective in revealing truth. Humor lowers fear levels that keep frightened people from thinking rationally and causes them to seek strong leaders that are usually stoking their fears in order to control them. If I wanted to start a fascist state I would start by shooting all the humorists.
Notice how skillfully comedians like Stewart and Colbert use humor to set up a teachable moment. They lower folk's fears just long enough to slip in some truth and reason. Olbermann and Maddow both use the light stuff in the same way at a different but no less serious level. The human brain just can't seem confront humor and maintain high fear levels at the same time. Even gallows humor helps us lower fear enough to figure out and survive the worst of times.
Only problem with that script is that Rethuglican voters are so stupid, they'll believe that Obama is serious.
Don Davis @ 2:
oooooh, oooooh!
Let me guess:
WHEN HE SAYS HE DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE!
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 79:
That is unfair to bitches everywhere.
I love the strategy but the dems are slow to pick up on the negative b.s. I believe Obama has tried to run a civil campaign but it reminds me of that line in godfather"everytime i try to get out, they pull me back in".He can't keep it on high plain and win, what have we come to, when lying has become the banner carried by the people who are our leaders. I think we are in for 4 more years of hell, I have no faith in some of the public to see beyond the crap, they watch fox and little else, so they never get whole picture, dumb asses, that's why we got 8 years of Dufus!
Lie from McCain: "I'm committed to making sure there is equal pay for equal work....You can count on it".
Truth: McCain opposed the Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, which would have made it easier for women to sue their employers for paying them less than men doing similar work; his campaign said the bill would lead to "a swarm of new lawsuits."
Isn't it amazing how a person can get to the truth with just a little research? How come the media can't do it?
The Enfarcer @ 81:
Good point. I'm thinking of 90% of Florida right now.... Hey, I lived there for 24 years. I know all about 4x4's and cows. And the people who ride them.
Brad @ 8:
That lyric with a picture of Ms Palin alongside would make a great bumper sticker!
proud demmie @ 37:
Brilliant!
and have you met my wife? morgan fairchild. whom i've seen naked.
yeah, that's the ticket!
surf (hussein) jac @ 88:
Brilliant, indeed.
Spread this around!
katy @ 17:
I think he's donated the hundred every night since he stated he would. I know for sure he did last night.
ShotoJamf @ 11:
Not really sure what a "yummie" is (Hell, I'm 45...) but I'm sure the press knows what LYING is. Many, in recent years especially, have made careers out out of the process.
Absolutely fabulous!!! Over and over again this would catch on. The media would love it so much that they'll even play it a bunch for free while they report on it!!!
To top it off there isn't a good come back for the McSame/Rove team.
I think there's a way to frame the ridicule in a kindler, gentler way that ultimately does more long-term damage and is harder for them whine about being picked on. The narrative that John McCain is a liar gives him too much respect: that he's just doing it deliberately as a matter of political hardball and that he's taking it to Obama. If you frame it as a sign John McCain is losing touch with reality, how does he defend himself? "I'm not senile. I'm lying!"
You can do it in two stages. First be the concern troll. "I'm concerned that he can't keep track of basic facts. Doesn't he realize his campaign is run by lobbyists and his running mate is the earmark queen? Is there something wrong with him and that's why he seems so confused during interviews?", etc. Then ask "How is he going to govern if he can't comprehend basic facts?" Talk about him like he's a well-intentioned child. "He's the Make Believe Maverick." Establish that narrative and the jokes write themselves.
I think more angry we get—shouting Liar! ever louder—the more we play into the McCain campaign's hand (there goes that angry left again). If the response is "Jeez, how out of touch with reality is this guy?", the more we control the debate.
Gotugye @ 18:
They'll love you for lying to them as well. They're used to it.
Actually Biden should be the one to do this.
Geez, whatever happened to campaigning on the issues? Anyway, none of the above matters. There are red-staters who will never, never, never vote for a Democrat, a black man, or anyone with a name like Barak Obama. Calling their guy a liar will only harden their resolve and their resistance. They'll tell you that all politicians lie - so what! Democrats will raise taxes, blah, blah, blah... These are voters who evidently have no problem with bombing innocent Iraqis. They evidently have no problem with stealing elections. They have no problem with things like torture, etc. They are not going to be swayed by some Democratic truth-telling campaign.
Robert Parry: "Despite all the chatter about how “historic” Campaign 2008 has been, it is the McCain-Palin ticket that it is truly testing the limits, not of race or gender politics, but whether the United States is ready to enter into a new dimension of political lying."
Palin’s most obvious lie is one that she has repeated over and over: “I told Congress, ‘thanks but no thanks’ about that Bridge to Nowhere.” Now, however, anyone who has bothered to fact-check this claim knows that Palin supported the bridge until Congress removed the earmark and then she kept the money to use on other state projects.
Palin also presents herself as a “reformer” who can’t stand earmarks or the lobbyists who arrange such wasteful pork-barrel spending – except that she hired Alaska’s top Washington lobbyists to secure millions of dollars in earmarks for her town, Wasilla, and for her state, including sending off a wish list of nearly $200 million just this year.
Well, now that the strategy is posted here, he can't use it. Otherwise, McClone and his minions will claim that "Obama merely does what the bloggers tell him to" or something similar.
Otherwise, I liked the idea.
Brian
So let me get this straight.
-Wasilla is meth capital of the Alaska.
-Alaska, under Palin, has the nation's highest per-capita rate of forcible rape.
-And now we're finding out that Alaska is the earmark capital as well.
Wow, she's an incompetent leader! And both McCain and Palin are obviously fantastic liars.
McCain/Palin is a disaster waiting to happen...100x worse than Bush.
Ads, the Obama campaign has GOT to start running more ads in the swing states. Here in Colorado, McCain has about 3 times as many ads as Obama. McCain has made it an art form to take words of Obama and turn them into his own slogans. I think ads mocking McCain stealing Obama's key words would be great.
El.Kabong @ 26:
How about: "McCain/Palin - A Ticket To Nowhere"
I made my own little sign that I've taped in my car window above my Obama sticker
which just says: I've Had ENOUGH!!!!
DaisyDeadhead @ 27:
No problem Daisy. There's more where that came from.
or obama could play any mccain ad and end it with the proof that it is a lie. apparently mccain ads are the only ones that the media will play over and over again, so you not only get to dispell the mccain ad, you get to fool the press into actually playing it and debating it for hours and hours.
Did I ever tell you about the time Sarah Palin took me out to go get a drink with her? We go off looking for a bar and we can't find one. Finally Palin takes me to a vacant lot and says, 'Here we are.' We sat there for a year and a half - until sure enough, someone constructs a bar around us. Well, the day they opened we ordered a shot, drank it, and then burned the place to the ground. Palin yelled over the roar of the flames, 'Always leave things the way you found 'em!'
Here's Palin's replacement for the Heart song Barracuda she can no longer use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R5-Qe-e54A&feature=related
It's a very good idea. I like the use of humor.
It's like in Shakespeare: the jester is the only one who is bold enough to tell the king the truth.
I don't think that the issue is simply that they are lying about things that the press has disproved. They are lying about things that court records, Congressional transcripts, and other legal documents disprove.
On top of that, they both make big public profession to being Christians. Does someone need to post a reminder to John & Sarah that Christians have a fundamental responsibility not to lie?
First rate recap. Why doesn't the Obama camp figure a way to put this in a TV spot?
proud demmie @ 37:
ronnyg @ 7:
Good one. Here's mine . . . .
Repuglics -- the party of immature, rapacious, doughy white, cowardly, angry, bigots, racists, perverts, pedophiles, murderers, war criminals, homophobes, misogynists, stupid women and liars.
Maybe it'll take three bumper stickers.
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Anonymous Liberal,
Finally, somebody has figured out how to take something that the media is willing to believe about McCain/Palin and create a narrative that can be tied into everything that the McCain campaign says and does. The narrative gets stronger with each lie they tell. Eventually people wont believe anything their campaign says. Good job, dude!
StirFry @ 24:
Aw c'mon !!!
She could SEE Iraq from that border crossing on the Kuwait side.
She's got (*ding* *ding*) foreign policy experience !!!
Stewart and Colbert need to help this narrative. They are the kings of righteous mockery.
If you guys are reading this, listen up. YOU ARE ON NOTICE!
No more weeks off during this campaign.
BigIslandDave @ 90:
Outstanding. This should be a paid political announcement by someone like Move On or Brave New Films. I'd send it to them.
How to Brand McCain and Palin as Liars
Well first you get an iron, then you heat it in a camp fire until it's red hot, and you might need to tie their legs together...
This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke.
EZ @ 47:
Biden should say he sold Delaware on eBay and made a profit. That would be hilarious.
I would like to see some ads run that have two kids, both playing McCain, or both playing Palin, who read exact quotes that show how much lying is going on. For example, one can talk about saying thanks but no thanks to the Bridge to Nowhere, then the other can read from Palin's appearance a few years back where she said she would not get in the way of the project. Then they can start fighting about who the real McCain / Palin is. I am! No, I am! That would be fun to watch.
116 ShotoJamf Says: This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke.
EZ @ 47:
One has to question what's being rolled in his EZ Widers.
Maybe he's becoming unrolled.
Has anyone verified that Palin has even shot a moose? There's a good chance she's only done a little target practice.
Barack Hussein Obama can't and won't win; he's got 5 opponents:
McCain vs. Obama. On accomplishments = McCain is a hero, Obama is zero. Everybody knows this.
Palin vs. Obama. Palin has more executive experience as Alaska Governor than Obama as member of the worst do-nothing Democratic senate.
Biden vs. Obama. Biden doesn't believe that Obama is ready to serve as president. When asked about Obama's lack of experience, Biden said, "The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training." There has been no harsher critic of Obama's lack of readiness to serve than his running-mate, Joe Biden. PS: Obama/Joe Biden = Osama Bin Laden.
Clinton vs. Obama. Hillary believes that McCain will be a better commander-in-chief than Obama. Clinton also has said she’ll hit the road for Obama, but her team says she refuses to be an anti-Palin “attack dog.” Further complicating matters for Obama, Hillaryland fundraiser Susie Tompkins Buell is leading a group that will fight media sexism against the Alaska governor.
Obama vs. Obama. He flip-flops all the time. By the way, what has he done when he was a young student. In October, 2006, he told a New York Times reporter that his drug use was "...reflective of the struggles and confusion of a teenage boy. Teenage boys are frequently confused." He is no longer a teenager but he is still confused. And is it true that he was a drug addict who went with drunken mob terrorizing his neighborhood?
tbone @ 119:
I wanna know if she shot it from an airplane, or engaged in any aerial killing of wildlife.
Other than promoting & rewarding it.
Brutal: Sarah Palin Actively Promotes Aerial Killing of Wolves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQobIUE1zTU
Show that in the Living Rooms of America.
I love to mock Sarah Palin every day. Her claim that she is a foreign policy expert because she can "actually see Russia from Alaska" is terrific fodder. ex. I drive a car every day I think I could be the C.E.O of general motors............I've seen the queen of England on TV, I guess I could be the King of England. Say stuff like this to republicans enough and maybe they will see how ludicrous their endorsement of her really is.
The idea has enormous potential but you'll need someone like Jon Stewart's writers to pull it off.
I'm all for it. This whole campaign has become too sour for me. It needs a little life.
What Americans have against these::
Miss Russia - http://tinyurl.com/MissRussia
Secrets from Russia - http://tinyurl.com/Russian-Secret
Hot Russian Lady Army - http://tinyurl.com/Russain-hot-lady-army
Russian Secret Weapons - http://tinyurl.com/Russian-Secret-Weapons
Just got an e-mail from a right-wing acquaintance about a Maureen Dowd column asking about the source of some of Obama's funding. MoDo wonders if it's coming from the Arab world -- you know, the towel-wearing "terra-ists."
Has anybody else heard about this?
MoDo, of course, has a long history as a snarky Dem-basher. Particularly the Clintons.
And I said to the Republican Party "thanks...but no thanks...for that McCain/Palin ticket."
Alvin Picache @ 120:
Hey, Alvin: McGramps and Moosegirl are liars. And so are you.
BigIslandDave @ 125:
The Bush Family is quite cozy with the Saudis who funded 9/11.
Alvin Picache @ 120:
even if there were any validity to the off-the-wall krap that you've listed, you blow a gaping hole in your credibility (to say nothing of any idea of decency) when you stoop to such sophomoric use of the words "Hussein" and "bin Laden." You, in fact, reveal yourself to be nothing other than what you are: a pathetic, small-minded bigot. You must feel right at home in the republican party, it's such a good fit.
Alvin Picache @ 120:
Just keeping voting GOP and see what it gets you.
dosido @ 128:
The Saudis? I don't think that's fair: you're giving away too much credit that belongs to Dick Cheney and his buds.
Lest we forget Obama's opposition is mcgramps, not palin. mcgramps lacks executive experience too. He also betrayed his country by putting out 30 pieces of propaganda for his captors, (30 pieces of silver?). Obama chose someone with wide experience that could in effect act as a mentor, mcgramps picked a ethically corrupt piece of tail.
The Congress known for do-nothing was the repubic controlled Congress from 1994--2006. Democrats have been trying to do so of the peoples work, they certainly keep the legislature open longer, and have been known to reach across the aisle, while the reichwing either filibusters or vetos.
Gotugye @ 18:
Include that as one of the lies.
Alvin Picache @ 120:
ALVIN!! ALVIN!!! Get over here, the other 2 chipmunks are ready to sing.......
In answer to #2's query, they only time McCain doesn't lie is when he is calling for, in his words, "more wars".
BigIslandDave @ 52:
I respectfully disagree. IF Barack were to sprikle his speeches with this kind of satire, the media would be forced to report it and in the process mention the lies that the McCain camp have been spewing. AND it's entertaining... win/win. Not to mention the fact that lying is least common denominator tying McCain to Bush. I mean, the possibilities here are endless and it's so basic that even West Vriginians can understand it.
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"McCain/Palin: The Campaign to Nowhere..."
bob @ 133:
So you're saying the low-information voter (love that phrase) WILL get it?
Let's hope so. We've had enough shoot-self-in-the-foot stupidity the last eight years.
For someone who claims to "support the troops", McCain did not have the decency and integrity to meet with these people. In all likelihood, because McCain would be embarrassed to acknowledge that these veterans, like the ones, but unlike McCain, who spoke out against the Vietnam War, have the truth on their side
Beautiful. He should do it. At least once, just to see how it goes over.
This is the link that belongs to comment #138.
http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/view/617/1/
John McCain Debates Himself
Alvin Picache @ 120:
I can see why you would support McCain and Palin as you are yourself a liar.
A quick search of teh internets shows that Buell has placed her support behind Obama.
Also, if your girl is such a barracuda then she can handle the heat. She surely doesn't need some lame wit like
you coming to her defense, trying to convince people how that smalltown mayor, first term governor experience is such
awesome preparation for the MOST IMPORTANT FUCKING JOB ON THE PLANET.
Lastly, I think you have some serious brain/thought process issues. I work in a regional stroke center and see this all the time, you are exhibiting symptoms of a CVA (cerebrovascular accident - brain cells dying) and I strongly suggest that you get yourself to a medical center quickly. If you are truly having a stroke then they can help you, if you are just incredibly stupid, as I suspect, then I guess you'll just continue to be taken in by "The Maveriks," and continue to lie in their defense while spouting off your pathetic attempts at making them look like anything other than what they are on blogs where people don't give a shit what you say.
The Horror!!!
Yikes, I messed up that link, but it looks kind of cool.
This is genius! I could actually hear Obama saying all of that!
Newsweek Magazine Covers Up McCain’s Mob Ties
One of the biggest stories of modern political history is consistently being suppressed by the controlled media
By Michael Collins Piper — AFP
Newsweek—one of the big three “news” magazines—has demonstrated beyond question that the American media is determined to cover up the organized crime origins of the fortune that set John McCain’s political career in motion and made him one of the richest men in Congress.
Although Newsweek said Mrs. McCain’s family “is deeply rooted in Arizona,” and that her late father, Jim Hensley, “was one of the most prominent men in the state,” who was “a World War II bombardier . . . shot down over the English channel,”—in other words, a war hero just like McCain—Newsweek did not even hint of the racketeering and corruption (and murder) associated with Hensley and his patrons in his rise to power.
McCain’s father-in-law got his start as the top henchman for Kemper Marley, who, for 40 years until his death in 1990, was the undisputed political boss of Arizona, acting as the behind-the-scenes power over both the Republican and Democratic parties. But Marley was more than a politician. He was the Meyer Lansky crime syndicate’s chief Arizona operative, front man for the Bronfman family—key players in the Lansky syndicate.
www.google.com for all stories related to John McCain's PROVEN AND WELL-KNOWN MOB TIES.
Also, GOOGLE KEATING FIVE!
Alvin Picache @ 120:
your obviously trying to stir things up what you have written is nonsense and you know it. it's okay you can
support who you want it says a lot of you after watching palin and mccain this week. that sex education for children in kindergarden was out of bounds. your nominee is a compulsive liar i saw it myself watching meet the press about his knowledge
regarding the economy. this is what you do when your
a liar and raised by an alcoholic parent. he lost to a weak governor bush of texas know he is the answer.
he wasn't in 2000 but all of a sudden he has all the answers. he was a loser than and he is a loser now.
Just my two cents: Keep up the liar charge, which is obviously a true charge & will eventually spread out from the MSM into the general population. But that's not far enough, because people in their own lives spend a lot of time rationalizing their own lies and will extend that courtesy to whomever they identify with. People also, sadly and weirdly, think lying is to be expected in politics, for the, um, greater cause.
So . . . call McCain and Palin what they are besides liars: HYPOCRITES. Nobody considers themselves a hypocrite. And nobody likes a hypocrite. From their records & rhetoric on veterans' affairs to earmark spending to the Bridge to honorable campaigning to women's rights to economic security to tax relief to climate change to lobbyists . . . they are demonstrably hypocrites. Hypocrites. Hypocrites. Hypocrites. The talk doesn't match the walk. They are not holding themselves to the standards they claim they will hold others to. Definition of hypocrisy.
Here's my ad....Picture of a heart-rate monitor, the rate less than normal, heartbeats. The rate briefly intensifies, volume increases, followed by the monitor flat line and distinctive buzz. Visual turns black then McCain's voice says, "Good bye my friends". No sound, no picture, just a black picture for 7-8 seconds to let it sink in, then a nuclear weapon violently explodes, the screen going bright white with intense volume of the explosion and the recognizable mushroom cloud. As the mushroom cloud grows larger, a voice over says...."fill in the blank". (Something like 'Sarah Palin, would you trust her?")
What do you think?
executive experience the 'holy grail'
biden..........nope
obama........nope
mccain........nope
palin...........20 months...
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