Shouldn't John McCain Release His Medical Records?
John McCain has not yet released his medical records to the public. McCain is 72 years old, and has been diagnosed with invasive melanoma. In May of this year, a small group of selected reporters were allowed to review 1,173 pages of McCain's medical records that covered only the last eight years, and were allowed only three hours to do so. John McCain's health is an issue of profound importance. We call on John McCain to issue a full, public disclosure of all of his medical records, available for the media and members of the general public to review.
You can sign the petition at The Real McCain to ask that McCain disclose his records properly. Granted, I'm not 72 years old, but I have had some fairly serious medical issues in my time and am the owner of a not insubstantial medical record myself. The very fact that his medical records for the last 8 years alone total over 1,000 pages gives me pause. It absolutely is in the public interest to know exactly what his health outlook is over the next four years.
WHY?
John McCain doesn't want anyone to know his true age. The Pro-lifers believe the Earth is only 4,000 years old!
What! me worry?! that an absolute incompetent nincompoop fundie wacko wingnut will take over as president!!!
Oh wait, we've already had one for eight years.
Culture wars indeed!
If John McCain's supporters claim his injuries as a POW as an excuse for not being able to use a computer than I think his medical records should be all open for the public to see if that claim holds water.
Could I recomend this short vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0M4Fx_UulA
makes yo think
john @ 1:
What do you mean, why?
“Shouldn’t John McCain Release His Medical Records?”
Not if you're John McCain.
lehman to declare bankruptcy
cnbc is showing lehman brokers cleaning out their desks
does america really want another 4 years of repug policy?
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 8:
From Yahoo:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown
My friends, that is completely ridiculous and unnecessary.
YOU'RE DRAFTED!
UncleJoe@8, The Bush Administration tried to stave off the collapse of the financial markets till he was out of office, but the time has come to prove to Americans that the Conservative Movement is a bust. By deregulating, the Repugs have destroyed everything the Middle Class has worked for. The question is how bad will it be? I don't know, but it will be big, and all will be affected.
OT Carlos Zambrano just pitched a no-hitter for the Cubs!
"Hurricane Ike destroys oil platforms in Gulf of Mexico."
Hurricane Ike “appears to have destroyed a number of oil production platforms and damaged some of the pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico, federal officials said Sunday.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/09/14/hurricane-ike-destroys-oil-platforms...
Regardless of your medical records I'm voting for you Nicole!
Medical records, military records, voting records, residence records, marriage records, or any records that could possibly make "the straight talker", talk straight isn't going to be available!
For the brain dead this isn't a problem, but for the rest of us it is a problem. If McCain should ever win...............?
P.D. @ 11:
Agreed. Not quite the "October Surprise" they wanted, and all the more reason to be wary of one that they manufacture.
fastfeat @ 9:
Today is "one of the most extraordinary days in Wall Street’s history" -- and not in a good way. Lehman Bros. and Merrill Lynch will be gone tomorrow.
Joe Sudbay (DC) · 9/1
http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/today-is-one-of-most-extraordinary-da...
The media turns on John McCain because of his lies!
http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/lies.html
yes........this is a unique situation that has national and
global consequences....he would remain a federal
employee working for us....we have a right to know
our RISK.
GonzoD @ 12:
Awesome display. One walk and one hit batter. Nearly a perfect game.
John McCain took a trip to Alaska and all he brought back was ...
fastfeat@15, Where is the outcry from Conservatives? By bailing out the banks, they have broken their own code. I thought they wanted smaller government? Or maybe they wanted a dysfuntional government?
And the fake outrage over the questioning of Palin's credentials will likely become a thunderous in making this a campaign issue. Someone needs to though, as this old fucker spent 5 years of his life as a POW and could keel over from some stress related ailment (heart attack, stroke, etc..) and we'd be stuck with a fundie whackjob from Alaska who would order us to mobilize for Armegeddon
evangelical pentacostal right wing republican sarah palin
could potentially be a heartbeat/carcinoma away from
the presidency of the united states
I think that little chipmunk pouch on the side of McCain's neck is cancer.
eric @ 16:
But, but Phil Gramm says it's all mental...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oay9dCPptf4
P.D. @ 21:
The crying is a little hard to hear from the Caymans...
Didn't McCain suffer some mini-strokes?
What about Palin releasing hers? I guess that would put any rumors about Trig not being her son, right?
Well my fellow C&L's, let's see the stock market tommorow. Will the DOW drop, we shall see.
i'd like to see the military records
odanny @ 22:
And believing in the Rapture, why would Lady MacBush hesitate to push the button?
fastfeat@26, LOL! I guess you're right. I few billions in an undisclosed account would make me happy! Tell me, how can I become a politician? It's great work. Only if you can get it.
If Obama thinks he can win the Presidency by hammering on such "issues" as McCain's medical records or whether or not he can use a computer than we have already lost.
Please someone tell me that we have better issues to run on against these clowns than this...
What a f%*king waste of time.
I confess that I have a morbid interest in the condition of John McCain's "taint". I believe his enlarged prostate has given him a very prominent taint. The proof is out there somewhere.
HELL YES He should release his medical records. He wants to be POTUS doesn't he? And his wife should release her taxes too. Seeing she wants to be 1st bimbo. Sorry, but she's stole another woman's man . And that makes her a harlett in my book.
Nope cheatin ain't allowed. I was pissed at Bill for doin it. But what he did pales in comparison.
I hope Wall Street does bonk hard tomorrow. At this point, I'm wondering how bad things have to get to jolt the citizenry out of their stupor.
P.D. @ 29:
Dow futures are presently down by 301 points.
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/futures.html
Well millionaires with tax payer funded healthcare can afford to visit the doctor more often than the rest of us.
And not just when they are sick, but for "checkups".
QL @ 33:
Oh there's no shortage of issues but the Republicans are avoiding those like the plague. Obama is doing a fine job addressing those. We might as well hit them with everything we've got or are 527's only for Republicans?
Why should he? He's running for the office of president. Have you people no respect for a candidate? The man is 72 years old. Show some respect.
Leave him alone! Leave Bush alone too. So what if 10,000 White House e-mails were lost? Big deal! It's their business and it sure as heck is non of yours. They're doing it to protect you.
I mean, can you imagine Al-Qaeda getting a hold of McCain's medical records? That information alone would make the U.S. vulnerable. They would know his weak spot and know exactly what allergies he's got.
So, STOP it already!
ummm and yeah, snark off.
john mcC*nt did about two months ago, for four hours, in a closed room, on a Friday.
1) he has had seven or so melanomas removed from his face and more than one facial biopsy, due to an apparently recurring malignancy.
2) upwards of a thousand differing health issues, questions and problems were cited in the report (possibly only because the health checkup was exhaustive*).
*(probably included hangnails and ass pimples and possible compromises of integrity of brain function in the 'centers' that process ethical and moral values and behavior)
Nel @ 38:
"Checkups"? To generate a thousand pages of medical data in eight years they must have installed a Bluetooth data link up his arse.
Obama, a smoker for decades, has done less than McCain; he's released to reporters a single page, not of raw information, but from a doctor stating that he's in good health.
What's Obama hiding?
This is a very fine line. I wouldn't want to divulge my entire medical history for a job. I have had to undergo yearly physicals and drug screens for my job. I don't see why McCain and Obama shouldn't have to undergo the same; physical and drug screen. Since "We the People" are the bosses interviewing these potential new hires, we should get access to the pre-employment screenings.
upchuck @ 24:
No, that is the reconstructive skin flap to cover the large defect that was created after his melanoma surgery.
eric @ 13:
appearance is worth $0.40 to $0.80 per gallon.
The economy is essentially sound.
McCain is essentially sound.
The war on terror is essentially sound.
Go shopping. Take the family to Disney World. Enjoy life.
Brian @ 43:
*yawn*
Brian @ 43:
Not his comparative youth and energy.
Does anything make rats ass with 90% of us?
Anonymous Hussein @ 37:
a big concern is AIG the largest insurer. if they get 'downgraded' they need more capital. the AIG may need to
turn to the fed also. financials will get hit hard technology could be a good play.
if you talk about this with right wingers on this blog it's like
turning on the lights in a roach motel they disapear....i believe obama should really work michigan...now that they
are asking for fed help,ohio and pennsylvania regarding the
economy.......this adminstration has done it's fair share to us where we are at now.
ask republicans about being tough Darwinian Capitalists
you'll hear crickets....they love to privatize the profit but
socialize the losses.....this pisses me off for many reasons
but one reason is we can't have a large pool heathcare plan
but they get bailouts and large severance.
Hi Nicole
I’m not a member of this site… I’m not American… but I religiously check out this site daily as I do not trust the pro establishment media that spreads lies about what’s happening in the world.
I thank all of you people for keeping them honest... I pray to God that Obama wins and McCain is dumped into the dustbin of history. With Palin… I want that more than ever to happen.
I came across this youtube video…”the most spine chilling McCain video you’ll ever see” and I wanted to share it with CL viewers. But I don’t know how to post it… as I am 78 yrs and not good with IT. Could you please post this video and urge CL viewers to spread it around… McCain CANNOT BE ELECTED…. WE MUST NOT LET THIS HAPPEN….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tihd3W-YaSc
Thanks.
Uday
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 8:
merril is selling their company to Bank Of America.
ralph @ 30:
That's what we should be going for, though you know that all the good bits would be blacked out or removed like they were for W.
I don't agree about medical records. Tax and military records should be public info, but ANY person should not have the privacy between them and their doctor violated. It is also against the law.
Brian, Go troll elsewhere. Comparing Obama's health to Mccain's is so lame. Next thing you know, we are picking on McCain! Boo-hoo. Cindy told everyone how the women on 'The View' were sooo mean! Can't handle a serious discussion with a couple of women? Please!
P.D. @ 32:
Connections and kneepads.
DD @ 54:
There is no legal obligation to release any personal records that I know of. But if you try to get away with not releasing them and run for president it is going to be an issue. In this case it is going to be a well examined issue.
Uday @ 52:
"Membership," American or otherwise, is not required.
If it is, I haven't paid my dues...
Brian @ 43:
'done less'.........has less. your argument is very weak.
mccain diagnosed/treated with all forms skin cancer much older. get a grip....consider the physical/mental stresses
mccain will endure......this weakens the immune system and increases the potential to be more vulnerable for recurrance.
don't put the importance of winning an election in front of
national security/risk(s) of the american people.
fastfeat@56, Yuck! I don't care about politics that much. I still have my integrity.
DD @ 54:
we are all aware medical records/HIPPA all that, but this is a very unique situation. mccain would be working for us the consequences are like nothing else. if he had a reoccurance
palin would step in just don't believe she is ready at all.
Uday @ 52:
good job uday
can you talk to my dad
he got frustrated with his computer and wont turn it on anymore
Uppity Blue Lensman @ 36:
One wonders.
I have to wonder, also, when Sarah Palin will release her taxes. Much as I don't care for Charles Schumer, he raised a good question today on "Press the Meat." Is she hiding her taxes to prevent us from seeing she didn't pay any on the income she generated while "working" at home? I may be wrong, but I don't believe there has been an answer to this yet.
How far do we have to fall before the press does its job? Wall Street is scared of another GOP administration--especially this one: "Old and Uninformed." It's time for the press to do its duty and look into what this could mean for this country. I'd like to see some moderate Republicans step up and do the same.
P.D. @ 60:
Most people who care the most about politics aren't politicians anyway, IMO.
RobertD @ 63:
i caught that also not claiming for example i think the 17k
in per diem.....i guess is income....i find it interesting the right went on and on about kerry/heintz financials
While I generally like anything that hurts McCain's chances, this insistence on seeing his medical records rubs me the wrong way. There is no shortage of issues on which McCain fails with the American voters. Let's stick to those. I don't look forward to demands to see Michelle Obama's third grade report card...
If we stick to the issues McCain will lose.
I wouldn't worry too much about his medical records I would worry about Dobson and all those freaks more.
Oh and about those Palin tax records I don't think that the cheating is the only reason they might be eye opening. I'm thinking somethin's a might fishy with Todd's whole ness. He seems to have a lot of time on his hands that looks a might peculiar for the rooten tooten he man. I'm wondering how much of the bribe money they're hiden'.
Chris Good @ 66:
i don't need to see his medical records have them reviewed
and undergo an examination....it's dicey i agree....but at this level it's important to peck away....a good boxer boy shots,head shots,kidney shots
Brian @ 43:
Clearly NOT the fact that if he drops dead, it leaves Joe Biden in charge of the free world.
Pericles @ 70:
checkmate!
Chris Good @ 66:
And if people like you keep on excusing McCain, we will lose.
The fact that is that he is a disabled 72 person with cancer. And you don't think his health record should be examined?
Yes, there are a milliard of other issues that McCain needs to be pinned on, HOWEVER... that does not excuse this issue from being brought up.
I am starting to get fed up with the fucking concern trolling already...
Brian @ 43:
Actually, Obama released a certified clean bill of healt... something that McCain has not been able to do, because no doctor would put his medical license on the line certifying McCain's.
Instead, McCain released his records under an NDA agreement which were hundreds of pages long (indicating a milliard of health issues) and which the reporters only had less than an hour to skim through. And here is the kicker, since they were under NDA, they were not able to discuss.
We should obviously be worried sick about the healthy dude playing a mean game of basketball, and instead leave the old fuck with cancer all over his face alone. Right?
In other words... what you are trying to tell us is that a 2000 factory re-certified Mercedes (Obama) is somehow less desirable than an equally expensive 1978 Ford Pinto with a history of mechanical problems being sold AS-IS. Now, truly right wingers must be a car salesman's wet dream due to their extreme stupidity.
Tyler Durden @ 72:
Tyler Durden's term for someone who is intellectually honest, which he is most certainly NOT, is 'concern trolling'.
A prerequisite for signing the petition should be that you were on record having previously signed a petition demanding Bill Clinton release his.
At the very least there should be another check box for declaring if you had or not.
He was overweight, did have medical problems, and not long after leaving office suffered a heart attack that he considered himself very fortunate to have survived. I don't recall any liberal outrage over that omission of vital information. Maybe Tyler Durden could let everyone know if he voiced his concerns over Bubba's records.
Pericles @ 70:
Sure, no one would worry about that. That's why he knocked the ball out of the park in the primaries, Pericles.
dennis @ 74:
I'd say, offhand , that there is a huge difference between Clinton and a man who would be unwise to invest in green bananas. The number of unusual posters turning up to suggest that it would be unethical to ask McCain for his records for doctors to evaluate suggests an element of real fear. I guess this one hit home.
Tyler Durden @ 73:
Nah, not a '78 Pinto. More like a '74 Maverick:
http://www.stauffersalvage.com/Portals/109/Ford%20Maverick%201.JPG
dennis @ 74:
Wow, Clinton the gift that keeps on giving to the average right winger dirt crawler...
So following your tortured logic. What you are trying to say is that McCain is no better than Clinton? Wow...
BTW, troll.. you would not know what an intellectuality nor honesty look like if they were to bite you squarely in the ass...
Speaking of records, care to explain why McCain doesn't want to release their military records? And this time you can't use Clinton, because he did not serve.
don't forget to take the nasty, mean, foul-mouth, lying, cheating, stealing, old man test
Peter G @ 76:
Offhand, you would say that? That's comforting. There is no way anyone could dtect bias in that position, Peter G. Not even the unusual posters here, whatever those are.
Yea Tyler. I'd really like to know why the son and grandson of admirals didn't screen for flag rank. His evaluations would probably make mighty interesting reading. Especially the fitness for command evaluations.
dennis @ 80:
... said the resident right wing troll.
Tyler Durden @ 78:
Intellectual and honest enough to know you are nothing but a fraud, Tyler Durden. Did you voice concerns when Bill Clinton refused to release his medical records, not even close to the extent John McCain has already? It's not a knock on Clinton, it's just a curiosity as to exactly how it is a liberal goes about taking a stand on something without thinking it through or whether or not they are being honest and consistent about it or not.
It shouldn't bother you if you have nothing to hide, which by not answering one could conclude you must.
Peter G @ 81:
did john mcain's father get diagnosed as an alcoholic while in the military or was he out? bush and mccain have those
similarities alcoholism(directly/indirectly).
dennis @ 80:
I've never claimed to be unbiased Dennis. Surely you're not making that claim yourself are you? Our respective biases notwithstanding, the video is bound circulate and the McCain campaigns protestations that they've already done so (to reporters for three hours) will ring very hollow.
Tyler Durden @ 82:
Tyler Durden: "Honesty = right wing troll."
Peter G @ 81:
Indeed, it is mighty hypocritical for someone who is running solely on his military record to make said record confidential.
Speaking of records, crashing 5 airplanes in a flight career of less than 7 years must amount to some kind of record. That works out at almost 1 plane crashed by McCain per year of flying...
Peter G @ 85:
No, I'm not claiming to be unbiased, Peter G. That's why I'd be a bit embarrassed to sign a petition like that. If you think your name on that petition fools anyone, then go ahead and sign it if you haven't already.
Dennis, my friend, I suspect that you may be the only regular poster here who can satisfy, from personal experience, the curiosity I expressed @34.
dennis @ 83:
Well, sure... can you then, pretty please troll, point at the place where we can access --publicly-- Mr. John McCain's health records?
BTW, did Bush Sr. released his? After all, as far as I know Bill Clinton is not running on this election. Since you seem to have those recurring day dreams in which Clinton's cock is running after you... it must have confused you.
Speaking of not answering, where are McCain's military records?
If he had chosen someone competent as his running mate, this would not have been such an issue, but with Sarah Palin as the potential vice president, it is critical.
dennis @ 86:
No, see we have a different definition of Honesty. I follow the traditional Webster's definition.
What I mean by "right wing troll" is knuckle dragger inbred dumb as a rock right wing troll. Which I know sounds familiar since it describes you to a T, congratulations.
However, I guess this is enough Troll-feed for you tonight. I am under the impression that you get some weird kick out of being humiliated on a constant basis... Poor bastard. Seek help, or the McCain trolling team does not cover your medical? Are you trolling just for McCain swag? I sure home you are at least making a bit of money, because if you are doing this for free you must be dumber that I originally estimated.
Tyler Durden @ 90:
A PhD and you argue like a fifth-grader. A foul-mouthed fifth-grader at that.
You want me to answer questions, try start acting like an adult.
the bottomline is that i believe the mccain campaign would never want to jeopardize the campaign. so they won't
elaborate on mccain's current/near potential health risk for
him personally........NOT his demographic but him personally.
i don't care about anybody from the past. it was the past but
more importantly mccain's perceived health is a independent variable. you can talk privacy and legalities but those change and evolve also.
the 'maverick' 'straight talk express' and the 'reformer' or as i like to call 'the answer to 2008 but NOT 2000' should put his country first.........since his health is unique 72.5 y.o.
with bouts of melanoma that could metastasis.
the consequences have much more weight than mccain's privacy. nothing to hide? just do it...i hope he's okay...they
know it's difficult to give a clean bill of health to a 72.5 male without any nuance. medical information would reveal
perceived risk......don't want to lose an election.
Tyler Durden @ 92:
Nothing you have ever said has been humiliating. When you are too cowardly to declare whether or not you voiced any anger at Clinton not releasing his medical records as you demand of John McCain, then you are hardly in a position to humiliate anyone. Fifth-grade sniping ceased being humiliating to me back in about fifth grade.
You know Tyler, I quite like Dennis. He has the courage of his convictions. He delivers the latest right wing spins direct to our door as regularly as a paperboy, for instant destruction. Most importantly he has a positively Sisyphean perspicacity in his determination to convert us to his views. All this in the face of relentless abuse. As Xoites said, he's practically our Republican mascot. I'd miss you if you stopped posting Dennis.
constituent @ 94:
Add that commentary to the petition, constituent. Please.
And what the heck, go ahead and check the box stating you are a medical professional. Who's gonna know?
Tyler Durden @ 87:
Secret McDonnell-Douglas test pilot?
dennis @ 93:
Interesting, nowhere in that answer you did provide an answer to the question: Where can we access John McCain's health records.
So are you going to do anything other than project you fucking troll?
wow.......new thread clinton at fault for everything. the worldand people change/evolve. looking at the past is fine...this is logical.....again this is NOW. john mccain's health is an independent variable.
very typical to see people answer a question with a question.we could back and forth all night with that logic. good luck people........this is similar to why issues don't get accomplished in washington.
ask the RED team why they won't talk about the numerous bailouts and loans needed from government. you'll
get crickets.....i was told republicans were fiscally responsible and perfect.....Darwinian Capitalist guess not
'privatize the profit and socialize the losses.'
Peter G @ 96:
Sorry, Peter G. I don't read this anywhere and bring it here. Just a overactive curiosity as to what motivates the liberal mind and its unmitigated claim to the higher moral ground.
Why do people get offended when asked to defend their hysterics?
dennis @ 97:
when i graduated from Northwestern i knew.
Tyler Durden @ 99:
I just asked one simple question, Tyler. One. And it was on-topic, unlike your questions. I'm not going to play your games. If you don't want to defend your signing of that petition I don't really blame you. Frauds are that way.
constituent @ 102:
when i graduated from Northwestern i knew.
Hey, Big Ten. Good for you.
Not to be cutting, but obviously not their fine J-School.
Brian @ 43:
Classic Republican tactic, attacking a candidates comparative strong point against your candidates weak point. Don;t you ever get tired of this charade? And of course Dennis the moron will chime in.
dennis @ 104:
Hey, Big Ten. Good for you.
Not to be cutting, but obviously not their fine J-School.
no i would have attended u of idaho for that. what's not to your liking regarding this entry?
dennis @ 101:
Unmitigated doesn't seem like quite the mot juste here Dennis. Unless you meant unmitigated gall. Were not the ones claiming to be "values voters" as if no one else had any values worth considering. I am very proudly a liberal with the tolerance and willingness to live and let live that that implies.. I'm not trying to regulate anyone else's life or tell women what they should do with their own bodies. Liberals are not the ones shredding the US constitution. If you're looking for false claims to the high moral ground look to your own house.
tezza @ 105:
answer a question with a question.......rove would be proud.
tezza @ 105:
Like Barack Obama attacking Sarah Palin's strong executive experience against his
weaknon-existent executive experience?Only Republicans do that?
"Shouldn't John McCain Release his Medical Records?"
Absolutely. By all means.
McCain has several major physical problems. In addition to skin cancer, he has chronic bodily injuries. What is his daily intake of pain medication?
dennis @ 109:
I think it was Karl Rove and John McCain who made the most compelling statements regarding the inadvisability of selecting persons with limited mayoral and governor experience for either the presidency or the VP slot. Surely you'd take their word for it.
dennis @ 103:
This is going to be like the fourth time I ask: You claimed that McCain has released his health records, unlike Obama. Please can you point us as to the location of said records so we can study McCain's medical condition?
Is the question too complex for your simple troll brain to parse? Maybe one of your trollmates at your bridge bridge can help you translate it from English to Troll.
constituent @ 106:
Nothing, really, but your stream of conscience rambling is extremely hard to decipher.
dennis @ 109:
Yeah, do you want to compare Obama's vs Palin's resumes? You really wanna go there idiot?
dennis @ 113:
... said the, once again, resident right wing troll...
Tyler Durden @ 114:
More to the point if executive governmental experience is the most important type then Dennis has to admit that McCain is in the same boat as Obama. He has none.
Peter G @ 111:
Compelling? Really? John McCain and Karl Rove made compelling arguments? I think that's the first time I've read that here.
Funny, now you guys think Karl Rove made a compelling argument regarding Tim Kaine, because when he made it, you didn't.
Obviously Barack Obama did, though. Kaine's inexperience would've highlighted Obama's lack of experience, that was obvious.
Palin's experience also highlight's Obama's lack of experience. Polls prove that.
dennis @ 113:
i'm just trying......i know you understood my point but you won't address it. i'm aware my strong point isn't writing. knowing that i consider a strength. i'm not that smart ...
giving it a shot. i'm guessing your a journalist or technical writer.
Tyler Durden @ 115:
And you said you were done with me. Again.... fraud.
constituent @ 94:
'extremely difficult'......i'll keep working on it.
dennis @ 117:
Both videos have been posted on this site as you well know. Kaine had twice as much experience as Palin and was judged unqualified to be VP by Rove. McCain dismissed Romney as being qualified for the job of president for the same reasons. Did you waterboard your logic before you made that post.
dennis @ 119:
I am just trying to give you enough McCain-troll points, so that you can redeem them for a jacket or a blanket swag from McCain's campaig. It must be rough out there at the bridge now that summer is coming to an end.
Just doing my little service, us bleeding heart liberals are good like that.
Speaking of frauds, you still have not pointed out where we can access McCain's release medical records.
Oh and I didn't think Kaine was a good choice for the same reasons as Rove. Not enough experience yet. I thought HRC was the best choice.
dennis @ 113:
Stream-of-consciousness writing is characterized, by, amongst other things, its lack of standard punctuation. Short of a couple of optional commas missing, proper punctuation in constituent's post precludes it from being "stream of conscience (sic) rambling."
rove said earlier that he expects obama to chose a running mate based on political calculation NOT based on the persons
readiness for the job. this makes comparing kaine and palin
interesting to me.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/10/ftn/main4336134.shtml
Peter G @ 116:
Peter G.- Polls don't bear this out. It's late and I need to get up in a few hours, but remind me tomorrow and I'll post a couple for you on an open thread. It doesn't matter what I think or how I'd argue the comparisons, but McCain's selection of Sarah Palin has cast great doubts on Obama's experience level, and that specific observation is showing up in greater numbers than anyone expected in those polls. It's why the onslaught today in the NY Times, the WaPo and all the Sunday talk shows Democratic obsession with all things Sarah in trying to destroy this remarkable woman.
Seriously, this petition drive is weak. Howard Dean said back in April that he wouldn't attack McCain on his age. That doesn't stop the Cliff Shecter's of the world, I know, but still, very bad form and as I said above, intellectually dishonest.
executive experience....'the holy grail'
obama...............none
biden.................nope
mccain...............zero
palin...................20 months
Peter G @ 121:
they won't address those points you have made. kaine clearly has more experience. romney was put down by mccain during the debates. i wasn't a mayor or a short term governor.....yet he doesn't have any executive experience.
Peter G @ 121:
Peter- I live in the same city as Kaine. He's a good man. I know a bit about the mayoralty position here; it's not a great thing to brag about, at least he'd have a difficult time bragging about his accomplishments while mayor here. He ran for governor against an idiot, and has since done an ok job but nothing to write home about. I don't know what you are arguing for or against with him. I would've rather he been selected than Biden, but why do you think what Rove said mattered? That you think it's hypocritical what Rove said about Kaine and then turn around and say Palin is qualified. Rove didn't say Kaine wasn't qualified, he said his lack of experience would not make Obama look any better. You cannot deny that Palin has not enhanced McCain in ways that no one could've imagined. So I'm not sure I know what the debate here is. Sorry.
constituent @ 127:
Don't know who that helps, constituent. It certainly hasn't helped Obama. It does help Palin. It's one of the things Dems try to argue for Obama but end up arguing against him.
I'd like to say it was a chess game but it's much simpler than that. It's not even checkers.
dennis- How in the hell did Lincoln, Kennedy and Nixon- just to name a few- ever get elected to the Presidency? What were those idiot voters thinking, electing these people with no executive experience?
Sorry, a woman who brought her town (with a population of under 10,000) an increase in the debt of $20 million (from the prior debt of $0) for a fucking hockey arena might have a greater quantity of executive experience, but the quality of that experience is a whole different story.
BTW, did you start digging your fallout shelter yet? There's a forecast for black rain if Palin finds herself anywhere near the White House. Going to war with Russia over Georgia....Jesus.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Peter G @ 123:
We are in agreement there. With that I am powering down. Have a good one, Peter G.
Why would he release his medical records? There will be no advantage to him to do so, and we know that truth for truth's sake is not a value he holds close to his heart.
He just wants to get elected and then die.
I don't know why.
He swallowed a fly...
dennis @ 132:
See, another lie. Everybody knows Troll are nocturnal animals.
Troll, where are McCain's health records?
uncle joe mccarthy @ 62:
So... can u help me by putting this Youtube video on C&L website...??? It is beyond me...
fastfeat @ 58:
So fastfeat... can u help me by putting this Youtube video on C&L website...??? It is beyond me...
dennis @ 109:
Oh yep, I've seen Wasilla Town Hall, thanks, and I've seen how Palin has operated in running Alaska. If you call that strong executive experience, I'm sorry for you! She's a small-town, small-minded, but ruthless politician with an outsized ego and frankly dangerous ideas on foreign policy. Might have to consider bombing Russia to defend Georgia? Does she realize that this is not Georgia the state, right? Enjoy your doomsday candidate dennis and enjoy WWIII.
tezza @ 137:
doris kearns goodwin(meet the press) about mccain's v.p.
choice,"a strange choice" since mondale the vice president
has become a powerful position.
the executive experience as far as palin doesn't have much
weight it's a shield.......ask about mccain's executive
experience.....zip. mccain didn't want her he wanted Lieberman.
dennis @ 130:
Peter G @ 123:
you think palin has more experience than kaine?
uconstituent @ 61:
Here's an idea - why doesn't Sen. McCain apply for a private health insurance policy. If he gets approved, no problem. If they decline him, well then...
Uday @ 136:
Uday--
I don't have anymore pull than you on what gets "put up" by the C&L staff. Best bet is to do as you did and supply the link (plus maybe a little description or tease of its subject); people who want to see it will link to it and comment. Occasionally the staff at C&L check out the videos based on relevance and interest stirred and may give it a separate thread.
McCain doesn't release his medical records because doing so would be bad for the environment. Think of all the trees that would have to be cut.
constituent @ 140:
Early morning correction: Kaine has twice as much experience as Palin in terms of time in the governor's office.
Peter G @ 144:
And???
It's pretty much a moot point right now, but believe me, and I'm not happy to say this because I'm one of his constituents, but Kaine has done nothing of note in his time in office. He wasn't chosen likely for that very reason, despite the fact he presents well and is a likable enough guy.
And to sound nit-picky, but he has one more year on Palin in terms of duration as Governor, not twice as much. Nov. 2005 vs Nov. 2006.
Every job I've ever had required me to pee in a cup.
We called them Golden Waves in the Air Force.
And when they asked me if I was ever bonded
Needless to say I didn't mention how I've been tied wrists to ankles
Backwards.
No, just be concerned about the unrest in the nation's economy, first.
This is useless. We've already established that McCain is a liar surrounded by liars. Why should we believe anything he tells us, including his medical records?
Tie him to Traitor Bush and hammer him on the Bush Economy.
Besides releasing his medical records (which I understand he has partially done), McCain should release his pyschological records as well. A psychologist friend of mine is convinced that McCain is suffering from PTSD.
For a fuller examination of McCain's mental state, check out "Is McCain Mentally Stable?" at http://abcparty.org.
And McCain has a recent history of forgetfulness which is really frightening.
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