How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?

This video, put together by a Romney supporter (who just has to be banging his head against the wall right now watching McCain) kinda makes you wonder exactly what McCain thinks he's bringing to the table that merits the "suspension" of his campaign.

BARTIROMO: Sen. McCain, has Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke cut interest rates aggressively enough?

Has Ben Bernanke cut interests rates aggressively enough?

McCAIN: I'm not...I'm not...I don't have that kind of expertise to know exactly whether he has cut interest rates suffiently or not. I'm glad that whenever they cut interest rates. I wish interest rates were zero.

Um, huh?  Interest rates at ZERO????  Oh yeah, this is the guy I want negotiating the bailout.  'Course, it might help if he bothered to read the Paulson plan.



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I think Cindy McCain should loan the government $100 billion of the money it needs. According to Norm Coleman she could stand to make 1 to 2 billion dollars on the investment...

Course, it might help if he bothered to read the Paulson plan.

That is why he suspended his campaign. so that he could read the plan. It is three pages long. He certainly does not have time to campaign and read at the same time. Jeez.

Interest rates at zero? That's hysterical. He wants a purely socialized, non-profit financial credit system. Who knew? He converted in the prison camp!

Whatever McKeating thief suggests, do the fucking opposite. This honorless coward is manipulating the present crisis because he is afraid to debate Obama....period.

McCain's "campaign suspension" is nothing more than a smokescreen so McCain can cut and run from the debates. McCain is all for staying the course in Iraq where servicemen are asked to make sacrifices for the good of the nation but when he has to put his butt on the line he tucks his tail and slinks away. Whatever McCain might have been in the past, it's clear that now he's neither brave nor principled.

Read it? Why would he do that? His owners/lobbyists will tell him what he should think after they read it. Meanwhile it gives him more time to take another nap.

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

Did he consult with Palin before giving that "zero interest rate" answer? It sounds exactly like something she would say.

Okay, now today he is an economics genius? Nope. Today he is the professional grandstanding, spotlight grabbing, stunt pulling, debate ducking, only candidate the republicans have, and I'm guessing they are having a major case of buyers remorse.

Economist Asks Why Cindy McCain Can’t Bail Out Wall St.

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3339

That's what I was wondering when I heard about McCain's suspending his campaign crap. Here's a guy with more houses then he can supposedly count, a fleet of cars and beer baroness wife, and I recall him famously saying this year that he does not know anything about economics. He's gonna be a real big help, I'm sure. Ugh. If he doesn't show up for the debate I'm going to be so pissed as ever since him and Obama secured the nominations I've been so excited about the debates as it's one place I'm certain the whole McCain facade will finally crumble, Obama will eat him for breakfast. And Biden and Palin? Laff. She's gonna have her ass handed to her on a plate. McCain camp clearly realizes this and is totally using this crap as an excuse to bail out. Take it from someone who knows alot about opportunistic excuse making. I don't understand why this isn't a bigger deal then it is.

Sigh @ 3:

Interest rates at zero? That's hysterical. He wants a purely socialized, non-profit financial credit system. Who knew? He converted in the prison camp!

Low interest rates were a huge contributor to this mess we are in right now. Of course McEconomy has no idea when is comes to economics. Maybe he should have taken this crash course in how the economy works before now. Like maybe when he actually had some time. Like maybe in July or August. Or maybe 15-20 years ago. Or maybe when he was in the Navel Academy. But I digress. Maybe McShowMetheMoney should have studied up on the economy before a couple days before the most important debate of his life. Do you see why voting for a guy who finished 494 out of 498 is not such a good idea?

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

No, no, palin's going to cover the economic front in a palin-mccain administration.

from a post at andrew sullivan's blog (nice to be reminded that all republicans aren't freepers):

pastor muthee: The second area whereby God wants us, wants to penetrate in our society is in the economic area. The Bible says that the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. It's high time that we have top Christian businessmen, businesswomen, bankers, you know, who are men and women of integrity running the economics of our nations. That's what we are waiting for. That's part and parcel of transformation. If you look at the -- you know -- if you look at the Israelites, that's how they work. And that's how they are, even today.

video of muthee making this statement, with palin in attendance, is here: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/09/palin-muthe...

St. McCain is trying to use the crisis for political gain. He won't contribute anything to the crafting of the bailout bill. But what he will do is swoop in at the 23rd hour and then take credit for helping "save" America from a reccession.

McCain admits that the economy is not his strong suit.

McCain has been AWOL in Congress during his 25 years on matters of the economy.

NOW McCain wants to cancel Presidential debates and come back to D.C. and save the economy? I don't think so. He's probably a nice guy, but deeper thinkers are working on this problem.

fry Says:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

I rather doubt that an American Nirvana will come into existence on January 20th 2009. While it would be nice to finally be able to tune out politics for a while, that really isn't possible. Unless and until the GOP finally cleans house and drives the whackos out of power, it'll always be sniffing around looking for a way to weasel back into power. Also, we've seen that even the Democratic party is riddled with DINOs (e.g., Bush-Dog Dems) whose interests are more closely aligned with the GOP than the Democratic Party. I think we've all seen what happens if we take our eyes off the country and aberrations like the Shrub will always be lurking out there.

Hey wait. This doesn't jibe with the campaign and MSM narrative. After all, he's a POW and a maverick! Dontchaknow?

Left&Left @ 12:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

They've seen the utter bankruptcy of their positions!

Marge definitely needed to increase her dosage ...

"I wish interest rates were zero."

Actually, this makes sense for John McCain. He's show zero interest in the economy until now.

Left&Left says:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

Yeah, I know--the comments are kind of dull without them.

Palin once blessed to be free from ‘witchcraft’

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A grainy YouTube video surfaced Wednesday showing Sarah Palin being blessed in her hometown church three years ago by a Kenyan pastor who prayed for protection from “witchcraft” as she prepared to seek higher office.

The video shows Palin standing before Bishop Thomas Muthee in the pulpit of the Wasilla Assembly of God church, holding her hands open as he asked Jesus Christ to keep her safe from “every form of witchcraft.”

“Come on, talk to God about this woman. We declare, save her from Satan,” Muthee said as two attendants placed their hands on Palin’s shoulders. “Make her way my God. Bring finances her way even for the campaign in the name of Jesus. … Use her to turn this nation the other way around.”

He should just take a dirt nap.

It might help, and it sure couldn't hurt.

Left&Left @ 12:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

The checks from the McCain's campaign bounced, and they have been forced to go back to their previous jobs flipping burgers...

Left&Left @ 12:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

BUSY--

PBS poll:
Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Yes 49%
No 49%
Not Sure 0%

If McCain really wanted to help, he would hit his wife up for a few bucks and take an economics course at The Learning Annex.

The longer this campaign continues, the more it becomes apparent that the wheels on the Straight Talk Express have fallen off. It really is shocking to think that the Right couldn't find someone more appealing and certainly more articulate to represent its party for this election....I guess it speaks volumes to the state of the conservative movement today!

displaced@20

Yeah, I know–the comments are kind of dull without them.

If by "dull" you mean "reasonably sane and well reasoned", then, yeah, dull it is.

What's the old fortune cookie saw? "You will live in interesting times." Cut's a number of ways, huh?

Where are the trolls?

They're on suicide watch since Bush's speech last nite.

fastfeat @ 24:

Left&Left @ 12:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

BUSY--

PBS poll:
Do you think Sarah Palin is qualified to serve as Vice President of the United States?

Yes 49%
No 49%
Not Sure 0%

Can we quit with the PBS poll already? Even PBS has yanked it claiming they never incorporated cookies allowing for multiple votes by any one viewer. It means nothing and won't ffect the outcome of the election in any way shape or form. Besides, righties don't watch PBS, after all, to them it is a socialist network.

ldzppln @ 21:

Palin once blessed to be free from ‘witchcraft’

ANCHORAGE, Alaska - A grainy YouTube video surfaced Wednesday showing Sarah Palin being blessed in her hometown church three years ago by a Kenyan pastor who prayed for protection from “witchcraft” as she prepared to seek higher office.

The video shows Palin standing before Bishop Thomas Muthee in the pulpit of the Wasilla Assembly of God church, holding her hands open as he asked Jesus Christ to keep her safe from “every form of witchcraft.”

“Come on, talk to God about this woman. We declare, save her from Satan,” Muthee said as two attendants placed their hands on Palin’s shoulders. “Make her way my God. Bring finances her way even for the campaign in the name of Jesus. … Use her to turn this nation the other way around.”

It is some pretty nutty stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0utkTp7DTw

McCain is so stupid, he makes my hair hurt when he speaks.

fastfeat@24

Stop with THAT poll. It's unscientific. Any jackass can go there and vote as many times as they'd like. Obviously a lot of them do.

Andy K @ 27:

displaced@20

Yeah, I know–the comments are kind of dull without them.

If by "dull" you mean "reasonably sane and well reasoned", then, yeah, dull it is.

What's the old fortune cookie saw? "You will live in interesting times." Cut's a number of ways, huh?

No "fortune" cookie would ever say that. "May you live in interesting times" is a curse...

POP @ 8--Funny you should say that. If I'm not mistaken, it's against the Bible to charge interest on loans. So, rightfully Palin should be literally for zero interest rates.

Mitt Romney is an asshole.

John McCain has a droopy left side of his face.

Enough said.

ldzppln @ 21:

Palin once blessed to be free from ‘witchcraft’

This is pretty darned offensive. My Wiccan friends are used to it of course, but I wonder how Palin would feel if Wiccans were seeking ritual intervention to save them from the affliction of Christians praying on their behalf. "Keep safe from every form of Christiancraft... including Chris Craft!"

Why doesn't anyone call McC*nt a bimbo?

1) It's an insult to sara plain, a true bimbo
2) bimbo's aren't that stupid
3) bimbos are not that malicious
4) that would be sexist!

fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

I love these people... they think that just because the said party comes into power, it causes blogs, radio shows, news networks and newspapers to shut down. It didn't happen for the Republicans, so where's the logic and/or the example that it'll happen for Democrats.

Zero interest??? Holy crap! McCain is the Manchurian candidate!

And all along, they were saying it was Obama... what a smokescreen.

12 Left&Left Says: Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

they went off to the right.

These crooks are using the US government as a middle man to take the losses on these crap mortgages. They will buy the crap after the US marks it down. Why buy now knowing a discount is on the way. That is why Wall Street wants govt intervention. They need a stooge to mark it down and take the loss for them.

Don't ya just love it when a prez candidate plays dumb? what a confidence booster!!!

JudyLou @ 34:

POP @ 8--Funny you should say that. If I'm not mistaken, it's against the Bible to charge interest on loans. So, rightfully Palin should be literally for zero interest rates.

Well, the Torah makes usury a capital offense... that didn't seem to stop the Rothschilds, Goldmans, et al.

The key trick is to say that "interest" is not the same as "usury." And thus, it is A-OK.

Jews, Christians and Muslims seem to be very adept at figuring out which parts should be taking literally from their respective ruling texts and which other "impractical" (as in they interfere with making money) sections can be conveniently subdued.

On topic-

Mittens has got to be pissin' the old "special undergarments" right about now. This is the spot where he could be convincing the shaky right and the indies that he's the one who knows how to get us out of this mess (with a little nod to the SLC Olympic scandal, and his role in making them a gigantic success). God's honest, he was the only candidate they threw up there that scared me with his own merits(read: the only one of 'em who could run without having to go negative).

Now we're back to the point where it's Obama's to lose, I think.

12 Left&Left Says: Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?
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They had to suspend their blogging to rescue America.

Awesome, I want to borrow money at no interest. Maybe I can get a loan with no interest and no late fees. Hell, for that matter how about a loan with no payments.

Sign me up. I'll help fix the economy.

Robert@35
And the muted, clueless church lady VP bangs her husband's snowmobile business partner.

And now here's Bill Clinton, snow-haired elder statesman, again aiding and abetting the enemy by saying that McCain's campaign suspension was done in good faith. Jesus, why doesn't he just come out and say he's trying to sabotage Obama in order to pave the way for Hillary in 2012?

I loved Clinton's two terms in office. They truly were a golden time compared to the mess we're in now. But I'm starting to distrust him more and more. He's the greatest politician of recent years, a man of great charisma and intellect, but he's coming across as entirely selfish and self-serving.

KO weighs in on the strateegery behind McQuitter/McBush

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/26876969#26876969

remember this gem. the straight talker got caught
doing double talk....short video 40 sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OunCv-7qvA

'Pipe down!' Fox host tells guest mentioning Keating:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Fox_host_tells_guest_mentioning_Keating_09...

Reconstruction Finance Corporation ...chartered during the administration of Herbert Hoover in 1932
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_Finance_Corporation

Remebering History: Watch the farms..
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/09/24-5

We wonder who will be endorsed in political sermons - defying a federal ban?
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pulpit25-2008sep25,0,5235934.story

Left&Left @ 46:

Robert@35
And the muted, clueless church lady VP bangs her husband's snowmobile business partner.

i have to say i wish that story had some traction.

Because whoever's elected prez in a few weeks will be a one-termer (given the guaranteed losing hand he's dealt), attention should turn forthwith to 2012.

1929, the great depression.

McCain was there.

Albatross @ 36:

ldzppln @ 21:

Palin once blessed to be free from ‘witchcraft’

This is pretty darned offensive. My Wiccan friends are used to it of course, but I wonder how Palin would feel if Wiccans were seeking ritual intervention to save them from the affliction of Christians praying on their behalf. "Keep safe from every form of Christiancraft... including Chris Craft!"

I'm an atheist. I get sick of these damn christians always trying to force their religion down my throat. Sometimes they even show up on my doorstep. It just weirds me out. I really appreciate the way that Wiccans just keep to themselves and leave me alone. I have a lot of respect for them. Muslims, Jews and Hindus are the same way. They leave me alone too. I like them too. The christians though; there is something wrong with them. They are loud and obnoxious and pushy. They love trying to embarrass me at social occasions. I don't understand that. It's weird. You go to your high school graduation and they try and make you feel funny for not praying. You join the Army; more mandatory prayer sessions. Every morning when I was a kid in school; we had that dumb pledge of alliance with that whole one nation under god thing. You pick up a dollar bill and there is a reference to their god. My question is why? I'm not going to give them any money and I still think that they dumb.

VietVet8666 @ 52:

Because whoever's elected prez in a few weeks will be a one-termer (given the guaranteed losing hand he's dealt), attention should turn forthwith to 2012.

I think the Clintons are prepping as we speak.

While McSame is busy rescuing the domestic economy, Sarah Palin is stepping into the foreign policy breech to make sure things go well there, and to demonstrate her chops:

"I believe that… a surge in Afghanistan also will lead us to victory there as it has proven to have done in Iraq. And as I say, Katie, that we cannot afford to retreat, to withdraw in Iraq. That's not gonna get us any better off in Afghanistan either."

So, notwithstanding that we now apparently have "victory" in Iraq, we cannot leave. ROTFLMAO!

Uh, somebody needs to hip her to this:

Iraq and the United States have agreed on a date for the departure of all American troops as part of a broader security pact they are negotiating, the Iraqi prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, said Monday.

There is actually an agreement concluded between the two parties over the definite date, which is 2011, to end any foreign presence on Iraqi soil," Maliki said.

OK, this is crazy. This chick is utterly clueless. Dangerously clueless.

e.g.,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ

There indeed has been a silence from the wingnuts and trolls. They have all reverted to radio silence. It is the only good thing about this week.

He can't campaign and read non-campaign stuff at the same time.

Well...as I see it...the only way McSpain can help solve the financial crisis he helped create, is to lose to the election.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned in the debate over the bailout is the fact we've already thrown ~$400,000,000,000 at this problem with various bankruptcy buy-outs, extra fed lending, etc. and it hasn't worked. So we're supposed to believe that throwing another $700,000,000,000 will fix the problem. Does the phrase, "throwing good money after bad" not mean anything?

upchuck at 54

...one nation, under GODDD, with liberty and justice for all.

Except a lot more liberty and a lot less justice for Wall Street fucks.

Wait, wait, here it comes, McChicken to the rescue. Jeez, how stupid does he think we are? He's not ready for the debate, not only because he is a Financial Moron, but i think more importantly, He's got heavy duty Medical Problems. Yesterday on TV, he looked like his left eye was drooping, Left side of his face, is weird, worse than usual. If i didnt know better, i'd think he had a TIA, Transient Ischemic Attack, Mini Stroke. Maybe that's why Cindy never leaves his side.

Here's more on Palins "pastor"...sounds like he'd be a hoot at a party.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/sep/25/sarahpalin.republicans

upchuck @ 54:

Albatross @ 36:

ldzppln @ 21:

Palin once blessed to be free from ‘witchcraft’

This is pretty darned offensive. My Wiccan friends are used to it of course, but I wonder how Palin would feel if Wiccans were seeking ritual intervention to save them from the affliction of Christians praying on their behalf. "Keep safe from every form of Christiancraft... including Chris Craft!"

I'm an atheist. I get sick of these damn christians always trying to force their religion down my throat.Sometimes they even show up on my doorstep. It just weirds me out. I really appreciate the way that Wiccans just keep to themselves and leave me alone. I have a lot of respect for them. Muslims, Jews and Hindus are the same way. They leave me alone too. I like them too. The christians though; there is something wrong with them. They are loud and obnoxious and pushy. They love trying to embarrass me at social occasions. I don't understand that. It's weird. You go to your high school graduation and they try and make you feel funny for not praying. You join the Army; more mandatory prayer sessions. Every morning when I was a kid in school; we had that dumb pledge of alliance with that whole one nation under god thing. You pick up a dollar bill and there is a reference to their god. My question is why? I'm not going to give them any money and I still think that they dumb.

From evolvefish.com: http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/misc.html

Several doormats here on page 1 might help...

America may I present the next President of the United States. Did you wake up this morning and realise that is isn't a dream? If you did you are in the minority. Most Americans will continue to swallow the pig swill of the Repugs as their house, car, kids and themselves fall over the abyss, while singing America The Beautiful. Those looking on from outside the US can only drop their jaws at the abject naivety of the US citizens as they chant 'we are the best country in the world', while being screwed up every orifice. (It's you who are going to pay because the crooks and liars lost all that money and are going to get away with it. That's the American way.)Keep those battle hymns coming. It did wonders on the Titanic.
It's been predicted the date for the Second American Revolution is May 27, 2010. Is that when most Americans will wake up? Read Naomi Wolf-that is your future and I can only hope the revolution has already started.

The new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll will be released at 6:30 pm ET, but here's an early look at one set of numbers:

Forty-nine percent say that Palin is unqualified to be president if the need arises, compared with 40 percent who say she's qualified.

By contrast, 64 percent believe Biden is qualified to be president, versus just 21 percent who disagree

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/24/1439689.aspx

The election is all but over.

Obama has won in landslide. Now the focus by the McCain team and conservatives all around, is on who to blame for their abject failures. The shots have already been fired. The conservatives are already positioning themselves on their strategy to defeat Obama and democrat-led Congress or Senate.

56 BobbyG Says: While McSame is busy rescuing the domestic economy, Sarah Palin is stepping into the foreign policy breech to make sure things go well there, and to demonstrate her chops:

Maybe palin is ready for THIS after her crash course in asking the names of foreign leaders' babies:

Pakistan Fires On US Recon Helicopters As Tensions Mount

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KABUL, Afghanistan — Pakistani troops fired at American reconnaissance helicopters patrolling the Afghan-Pakistan border Thursday, heightening tensions as the U.S. steps up cross-border operations in a region known as a haven for Taliban and al-Qaida militants.

Two American OH-58 reconnaissance helicopters, known as Kiowas, were on a routine afternoon patrol in the eastern province of Khost when they received small arms fire from a Pakistani border post, said Tech Sgt. Kevin Wallace, a U.S. military spokesman. There was no damage to aircraft or crew, officials said.

"They did not cross the border and they did not fire back," Wallace said.

The Pakistani military disputed that assertion, saying its troops fired warning shots when the two helicopters crossed over the border _ and that the U.S. helicopters fired back.

"When the helicopters passed over our border post and were well within Paskitani territory, own security forces fires anticipatory warning shots. On this, the helicopters returned fire and flew back," a Pakistani military statement said.

The Pakistani military said the matter was "being resolved" in consultations between the army and the NATO force in Afghanistan. A NATO statement said the militaries were "working together to resolve the matter."

38 ThunderMonkey Says: fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

I love these people… they think that just because the said party comes into power, it causes blogs, radio shows, news networks and newspapers to shut down. It didn’t happen for the Republicans, so where’s the logic and/or the example that it’ll happen for Democrats.
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It is a ridiculous statement. It like saying there are no right-wing blogs and no Rush Limbaugh, no Fox News. Geez. Gimme a break.

He can help by getting the hell out of the way.

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China ordered their domestic banks not to deal with the US. today.

What a Clusterf###

fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

How about, "No".

Anything else?

displaced @ 20:

Left&Left says:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

Yeah, I know--the comments are kind of dull without them.

YEAH! WHERE THE HELL IS MARGE?????? MAAARRRRGGE!
[gaakk. can a guy strain his voice by merely typing hysterical screams?]

47 BigIslandDave Says: And now here’s Bill Clinton, snow-haired elder statesman, again aiding and abetting the enemy by saying that McCain’s campaign suspension was done in good faith. Jesus, why doesn’t he just come out and say he’s trying to sabotage Obama in order to pave the way for Hillary in 2012?

I loved Clinton’s two terms in office. They truly were a golden time compared to the mess we’re in now. But I’m starting to distrust him more and more. He’s the greatest politician of recent years, a man of great charisma and intellect, but he’s coming across as entirely selfish and self-serving.
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Chris Rock called him on his shit on Letterman. http://www.alternet.org/blogs/video/100029/chris_rock_on_hillary_clinton...

Maureen Dowd called him on his shit in her column (at the end) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/opinion/24dowd.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

It's really nice to be a Democrat these days!

Repubs say McSpain covered up collaboration with VC while a POW...
Well well well.
http://snipurl.com/3t2qy

50 The Smiths

Thanks for the links. I remember when the Republicans went after an Episcopal Church in LA after the 2004 elections. The IRS will crucify these guys. They are taxed on non-religious activities - ask Robert Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral.

more mccain economy lies...short video

http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/53564-more-mccain-economy-lies

How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?

His wife will cut a cheque?

see, if the stupid repugnicans would have voted for me in the primaries we wouldn't be in this mess with grampy juan pablo mcshitstaininsane. now the Grand Old Perverts are screwed..all cuz a senile lunatic is too dumb to realize he doesn't know his ass from his elbow when it comes to the economy.

55 fastfeat Says: VietVet8666 @ 52:

Because whoever’s elected prez in a few weeks will be a one-termer (given the guaranteed losing hand he’s dealt), attention should turn forthwith to 2012.

I think the Clintons are prepping as we speak.
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Democracy Now!
August 25, 2008
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/8/25/rick_macarthur_you_cant_be_president

AMY GOODMAN: So why is Barack Obama giving so much play to the Clintons? I mean, Hillary Clinton will be speaking on Tuesday. President Clinton will be speaking on Wednesday. Her name will be entered. There will be the vote. It’s as if it’s a Clinton convention.

RICK MACARTHUR: Well, now we’re getting into tactics. We’re getting away from some of the other things I’m talking about. And tactically, I think this is very stupid on the part of Obama. And I seem to be the only person besides Dick Morris, Bill Clinton’s former adviser, who’s saying this. The idea—in fact, Dick Morris wrote a very funny piece the other day, saying—on his blog, saying that if Clinton—excuse me, if Obama can’t stand up to the Clintons, how can he stand up to President Putin of Russia? I would say that that’s exactly right, that he has given way too much air time to the Clintons and that Hillary Clinton has not conceded. This is another central part of the thesis of my book, which is that this is a factional fight within the Democratic Party. It’s not an ideological fight, it’s a fight over power. There is very little difference between Obama and Clinton on the big issues of the day. And the Clintons are still running. Hillary Clinton is hoping very much that Obama will lose and that she can present herself in 2012 on the “I told you so” ticket. Now, you can make—you could say that—

76 Bonkers Says: displaced @ 20:

Left&Left says:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

Yeah, I know–the comments are kind of dull without them.

YEAH! WHERE THE HELL IS MARGE?????? MAAARRRRGGE!
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D'oh!!!

0% ? Oh yeah. Just like Japan in the early ninties.

Just before their economy totally cratered.

BaScOmBe hearts Rachel Maddow hates MSM @ 73:

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ysbaddaden @ 85:

76 Bonkers Says: displaced @ 20:

Left&Left says:

Where have all the trolls(Dennis, Johnny@Bad, Marge, etc.) disappeared to?

Yeah, I know–the comments are kind of dull without them.

YEAH! WHERE THE HELL IS MARGE?????? MAAARRRRGGE!
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D'oh!!!

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth, ys!

I thought that suspending a campaign meant not running any tv ads. I guess I was wrong because about an hour ago I saw one here in Fla on tv.

The big question is, who ends the week looking more clueless, McSame or Palindrone?

Does Palin's church have...like...a set of prayers for curing witchcraft...and another set to shrink hemorrhoids...another set to make your boobs perky...do they have a prayer to get rid of a grey, 72 year old wart?

74 codyor447 Says: China ordered their domestic banks not to deal with the US. today.
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That was a rumor that has already been disproven.

je @ 68:

The election is all but over.

Obama has won in landslide. Now the focus by the McCain team and conservatives all around, is on who to blame for their abject failures. The shots have already been fired. The conservatives are already positioning themselves on their strategy to defeat Obama and democrat-led Congress or Senate.

Never write these crooks off too soon.

Probably a long shot at this late stage but ...

John McSame 'suddenly' realizes he is not 'well enough' to continue his campaign (like the more we got to see him the bat shit crazy he looks) - he falls on his sword and backs out. Mittens Romney comes in to save the day - with bipartisanan message and highly effective spin on his economic credentials. The 'i won't vote for magic underpants' brigade are happy with Sarah Palin keeping him in place on the fundie side so will happily fall in line.

Unbelievably, this gives the repukes a realistic shot at the presidency ....

Im Slick Sarah and I approve this message

Zero per-cent interest rares! I did not know McCain was a Muslim.

Left&Left @ 46:

Robert@35
And the muted, clueless church lady VP bangs her husband's snowmobile business partner.

To be fair, the bible just says that thou shall not covet thy neighbour's wife. It says nothing about the wife coveting other people...

EvtheBev, I talked about this last week.

My understanding of the election rules is that even if McCain kicked, they could not remove him from the ballots of all 50 states.

Do any of you know where this money is going to come from?? The Federal Reserve is going to loan the money to the government, by typing some numbers in a computer. That money will then be owed by ALL OF US to the Federal Reserve. WHY does our government (of the people, for the people, by the people!) instead not create the money as credit, rather than a debt to be repaid? WHY are we paying the Federal Reserve? Money is a thing we all need, why is the use of it a cost we pay to other human beings? The Fed creates the money OUT OF NOTHING and we spend our lives repaying it AT INTEREST! Its ludicrous!

If anything I've said is news to you, you need to watch Money As Debt. You are being lied to. Wake up.

Palin kind of knows where the money is going to come from:

"Ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions."

BaScOmBe hearts Rachel Maddow hates MSM @ 73:

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Please ladies...seriously...this is not mysogyny...honestly...Palin really is pathetically stupid.

ThunderMonkey @ 38:

fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

I love these people... they think that just because the said party comes into power, it causes blogs, radio shows, news networks and newspapers to shut down. It didn't happen for the Republicans, so where's the logic and/or the example that it'll happen for Democrats.

You love me? Too bad Obama is against gay marriage then.

"How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?"

The right way would be for a "personal responsibility" conservative such as himself to take responsibility for his part of the collapse with his legislative record the past 26 years, admit again as he has done before that he doesn't know much about the economy, and withdraw his candidacy for the good of the nation.

Staying far away from the White House is how McKeating could help solve the financial crisis.

fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

It'll become Chimps and Lovers.

Tyler Durden @ 101:

BaScOmBe hearts Rachel Maddow hates MSM @ 73:

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Hum... then, please Site Monitor could you censor around 70% of the articles in this thread?

With the insistence of tax cutting when we have exorbitant war debts, crumbling infrastructure, emergency relief and bailouts we need to ask what he would cut.

First, McBoob should figure out how many cars and homes he has before he tries to apply his "expertise" to the financial crisis. He has no idea what's going on in his own household, and now he wants the American people to trust him with 700 billion dollars of their money? This is either an excuse to scuttle the vice-presidential debate, or McBoob realized Friday's debate was scheduled to take place during nap-time.

whooka @ 10:

That's what I was wondering when I heard about McCain's suspending his campaign crap. Here's a guy with more houses then he can supposedly count, a fleet of cars and beer baroness wife, and I recall him famously saying this year that he does not know anything about economics. He's gonna be a real big help, I'm sure. Ugh. If he doesn't show up for the debate I'm going to be so pissed as ever since him and Obama secured the nominations I've been so excited about the debates as it's one place I'm certain the whole McCain facade will finally crumble, Obama will eat him for breakfast. And Biden and Palin? Laff. She's gonna have her ass handed to her on a plate. McCain camp clearly realizes this and is totally using this crap as an excuse to bail out. Take it from someone who knows alot about opportunistic excuse making. I don't understand why this isn't a bigger deal then it is.

Keep in mind, McCain and Palin would both be wearing tiny transmitters in their ears to be fed lines.

Maybe it sounds tin foil, but the technology is here and they have every reason to use it.

"How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?"

By being a POW and not having a debate............Apparently

McCains advice to Wall St...... Everything I've done in the past 26 years, Well don't do that anymore!

ysbaddaden @ 105:

fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

It'll become Chimps and Lovers.

Don't worry. There will always be plenty of Crooks & Liars to discuss.

BREAKING NEWS..... HOUSE REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO SIGN ANY DEAL.

John McCain is mentally ill. I believe he has Alzheimer's. He can't keep his mind straight and doesn't deliver a consistent message. He bounces around from idea to idea and he's impossible to follow in a straight line. He is no doubt suffering from some sort of mental erosion related to being a 72-year old tortured war veteran. For this and many other reasons, if he is elected we are in grave danger...

I seriously don't know what he thinks he can do given his piss poor track record.. crash a another jet maybe????? JD

SwingingJohnson @ 109:

whooka @ 10:

That's what I was wondering when I heard about McCain's suspending his campaign crap. Here's a guy with more houses then he can supposedly count, a fleet of cars and beer baroness wife, and I recall him famously saying this year that he does not know anything about economics. He's gonna be a real big help, I'm sure. Ugh. If he doesn't show up for the debate I'm going to be so pissed as ever since him and Obama secured the nominations I've been so excited about the debates as it's one place I'm certain the whole McCain facade will finally crumble, Obama will eat him for breakfast. And Biden and Palin? Laff. She's gonna have her ass handed to her on a plate. McCain camp clearly realizes this and is totally using this crap as an excuse to bail out. Take it from someone who knows alot about opportunistic excuse making. I don't understand why this isn't a bigger deal then it is.

Keep in mind, McCain and Palin would both be wearing tiny transmitters in their ears to be fed lines.

Maybe it sounds tin foil, but the technology is here and they have every reason to use it.

Again I say...there must be a way to jam them...
Hell...my cell phone puts out strong enough signals that it interrupts electronic signal in the speaker on my desk.
Maybe someone could sit back stage with a Nextel i305 model..aka the nextel brick, and just call someone everytime it's McBains or Palins turn.

SwingingJohnson@112
BREAKING NEWS.....HOUSE REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO SIGN ANY DEAL.

They're waiting for Grandpa to arrive to STAGE a "Maverick saves America" moment.
P.S.....Your moniker, my truth.

I thought Junior was a strutting pompous posturing a$$... So where's the codpiece, John?

CMINCA @ 71:

38 ThunderMonkey Says: fry @ 7:

So when Obama (God willing) wins the White House and Dems increase their numbers in Congress, is C&L just going to shut down?

I love these people… they think that just because the said party comes into power, it causes blogs, radio shows, news networks and newspapers to shut down. It didn’t happen for the Republicans, so where’s the logic and/or the example that it’ll happen for Democrats.
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It is a ridiculous statement. It like saying there are no right-wing blogs and no Rush Limbaugh, no Fox News. Geez. Gimme a break.

I thought CrookAndLiars were an anti-Clinton site way back when... Am I wrong?

"How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?"

Hopefully by preventing assholes like this from continuing to erode the economy in his personal quest for power ...

We’ve just been alerted that despite House Democrats relenting on extending bans on offshore drilling and oil shale in the continuing resolution (CR) appropriations bill, Democrat Senate Leader Harry Reid has decided to sneak an extension of the oil shale ban through as Congress fights over the financial bailout. Oil shale in America’s West is estimated to hold be between 800 billion and 2 trillion barrels of oil — that is more than three times the proven oil reserves in Saudi Arabia alone.

Here is the text of Reid’s proposed new ban on oil shale, that he is trying to add as an amendment to the CR or move seperately as a “stimulus” package, or we should say an anti-stimulus package if this is included.

Sec 1602 continues ban on oil shale. The language follows:

SEC. 1602. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, including section 152 of division A of H.R. 2638 (110th Congress), the Consolidated Security, Disaster Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, 2009, the terms and conditions contained in section 433 of division F of Public Law 110–161 shall remain in effect for the 19 fiscal year ending September 30, 2009.

It would be an insult to all Americans if Senate Democrats worked to bailout Wall Street while damaging our future prosperity by banning development of vast energy reserves in oil shale.

Americans for Prosperity responds:

“Only in Harry Reid’s Washington could a ban on energy production and the thousands of manufacturing jobs it would create be considered an ‘economic stimulus.’

“Somebody needs to ask Harry Reid how blocking private companies from creating good jobs and lowering the cost of energy for millions of American families will do anything to get our economy back on track. No wonder Congressional approval levels are at historic lows and we find ourselves in this economic situation.

“Every Senator who truly cares about an economic recovery should tell Harry Reid to remove this cynical provision from his so-called ‘economic stimulus’ bill immediately, and if he refuses to do so, they should vote against this bill.”

Left&Left @ 116:

SwingingJohnson@112
BREAKING NEWS.....HOUSE REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO SIGN ANY DEAL.

They're waiting for Grandpa to arrive to STAGE a "Maverick saves America" moment.
P.S.....Your moniker, my truth.

come over to banniNation dot com sometime. I think you'd like it there.

Left&Left @ 116:

SwingingJohnson@112
BREAKING NEWS.....HOUSE REPUBLICANS REFUSE TO SIGN ANY DEAL.

They're waiting for Grandpa to arrive to STAGE a "Maverick saves America" moment.
P.S.....Your moniker, my truth.

Ah Jebus fuckin Christ on rubber crutches! I hate these goddamn repugs.
Still..though...I think that the incompetence and outright lunacy displayed my the Plain/McSpain campaign is becoming obvious to everyone. Sure some diehard bible thumpin racist types will buy into their spiel, but seems that most are becoming tired of those two.

Iben @ 120:

"How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?"

Hopefully by preventing assholes like this from continuing to erode the economy in his personal quest for power ...

We’ve just been alerted that despite House Democrats relenting on extending bans on offshore drilling and oil shale in the continuing resolution (CR) appropriations bill, Democrat Senate Leader Harry Reid has decided to sneak an extension of the oil shale ban through as Congress fights over the financial bailout. Oil shale in America’s West is estimated to hold be between 800 billion and 2 trillion barrels of oil — that is more than three times the proven oil reserves in Saudi Arabia alone.

Here is the text of Reid’s proposed new ban on oil shale, that he is trying to add as an amendment to the CR or move seperately as a “stimulus” package, or we should say an anti-stimulus package if this is included.

Sec 1602 continues ban on oil shale. The language follows:

SEC. 1602. Notwithstanding any other provision of law, including section 152 of division A of H.R. 2638 (110th Congress), the Consolidated Security, Disaster Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, 2009, the terms and conditions contained in section 433 of division F of Public Law 110–161 shall remain in effect for the 19 fiscal year ending September 30, 2009.

It would be an insult to all Americans if Senate Democrats worked to bailout Wall Street while damaging our future prosperity by banning development of vast energy reserves in oil shale.

Americans for Prosperity responds:

“Only in Harry Reid’s Washington could a ban on energy production and the thousands of manufacturing jobs it would create be considered an ‘economic stimulus.’

“Somebody needs to ask Harry Reid how blocking private companies from creating good jobs and lowering the cost of energy for millions of American families will do anything to get our economy back on track. No wonder Congressional approval levels are at historic lows and we find ourselves in this economic situation.

“Every Senator who truly cares about an economic recovery should tell Harry Reid to remove this cynical provision from his so-called ‘economic stimulus’ bill immediately, and if he refuses to do so, they should vote against this bill.”

Bought and paid for by the oil lobbyists are ya Iben?
How's that workin out?
We need to get away from oil, PERIOD.

Muslims believe interest rates are a sin.

Is mccain a muslim?

haw haw haw

He'll save the world. Don't worry. He's a real "maverick". (Ask Palin: she'll get right back to ya.)

He even goes against himself. The economy is sound. No, it isn't. Yes, it is. No, it isn't... Repeat as, and where, necessary.

This is one of those "mavericky" political stunts, as there is no substance to his campaign. The schmuck.

Re: CMINCA @ 80

Conspiracy theories aside, the truth is that conservative-leaning churches have also ended up on the IRS' radar.

Re: liberalNmoderation @ 123

Here in the real world it's clear it will take a lot of oil to fuel that transition.

liberalNmoderation @ 122

Obviously no knowledge or appreciation of what "bible thumpers" did to advance the civil rights cause.

How Is John McCain Going To Help Solve The Financial Crisis?

He knows a guy...

We know that McCain is a douchbag.

However......where is Obama's mouth? Why is he so quiet? Not very presidential to be passive.

7 Billion fucking dollars is not CHANGE!

peaceful easy feeling @ 126:

Re: CMINCA @ 80

Conspiracy theories aside, the truth is that conservative-leaning churches have also ended up on the IRS' radar.

As indeed they should, since they are the primary violators.

And we ain't seen nothin' yet.

this may be a naive question, but I can't seem to find the answer anywhere else so far...is there a place where I can read/download the plan?? McCain may not be able to find the time to read it, but I sure as heck would like to know exactly what's in it so I can know exactly what it is that theyr'e trying to cram down my throat!

interest rates...money for nothing and chicks for free.

I thought a maverick was a lost calf?

An economy whose interest rates have reached zero is one that has flatlined. Recent example: Japan in the 1990's. Consumers and firms there were so scared of the future that niether wanted to borrow money, even at negative real interest rates, to buy or invest. Then again a McCain economy would probably achieve that....

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