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Rest in peace, Senator Ted.
When I was seventeen, I was a volunteer for Kennedy '80 in Erie, Pennsylvania, and I know I'm not the only blogger who cut her political teeth on that campaign. May all of us remember the good times and continue to fight the good fight.
A reminder from Senator Kennedy's US Senate website, that those wishing to leave condolences for Senator Kennedy's family can do so at TedKennedy.org.
Open thread below...
THANK GOD FOR BLESSING US WITH YOU.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Unlimited Corporate money in elections?!?!
Could be…
Read on at Public Citizen here
And sign the petition
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From Harpers and Public Citizen
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
From Salon here
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statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Ted Kennedy versus Richard Nixon on health care 35 years ago here
The two video clips on YouTube here
Amazing, Kennedy's plan was single payer, the government would bypass private insurance entirely.
Nixon's plan sounds every bit like the Senate rumblings today. A unadulterated hand-over and hand-out to the profiteers.
That will be a thing of infamy, 35 years after Ted Kennedy battled Nixon, Kenndy dies and Nixon wins.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
makes you sick
nixon helped make alot of leeches rich
i think on sunday ill take a drive to his library, and take a big dump right in the middle of it...will be worth the jail time
I was never courageous enough for subversion.
While on vacation with my parents in the summer of '82 I toured the White House with a small bag of weed in the front pocket of my Levi's. My 15 years of life experience informed my decision to give Nancy Reagan the middle finger over her ridiculous Just Say No campaign.
It was a silent protest until Mom discovered my little stash. She didn't see my point and was convinced the Secret Service would hunt us down at the Marriot.
Here's a little sumpin sumpin for ya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyQUm0A5QGg
I really needed to smile and laugh today.
It's been a rough day, and I'm sure the next few days also will be.
I'd say "Not having Health Care reform killed Ted" but that would be a low Republican tactic.
I just learned of a great conference coming up here in St. Louis on September 25th and 26th at the Frontenac Hilton….that’s on Lindbergh, just south of 40, just north of Huntleigh where I think some of the Walker family still lives (as in G.W.)….maybe one of them will be there!
http://www.howtotakebackamerica.org/
Headlining, our bestest friend, Michelle Bachmann!
Let’s all go to learn how to fast and pray in order to defeat healthcare reform!
Looks like the Huckster is going to be there as well. Our buddy Steve King from Iowa is also rumored to be there. And, in a rare treat, Muslim killer General William Boykin also is rumored to be a guest. There will be many more. Of course, our own Phyllis Schlafly, who has helped organize this great event, will be there!
Check out the workshops…..lots of them.
Some of my favorites:
How to understand Islam
How to counter the homosexual movement
How to deal with the vote fraud, the census, and ACORN (I’m betting our pal Michelle is doing this one!)
How to recognize living under Nazis and Communists
How to activate your church
And many, many more!
Seminars only, without meals, are $99 in total, if you register by September 1….not much time!
Let’s all go for a rousing good time and learn how to take our America back!
Can't wait!
:)
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
I have to check my schedule but I think I can attend and I'll spread the word.
bringing guns?
Or do y'all save that for the Democratic town hall meetings?
My license is valid in Missouri.
What exactly are you proposing General Jack?
If it is a protest.....let's do it.
BTW I tried to find what happens to the proceeds and nothing is mentioned.....must be dedicated to the perpetuity of the Eagle Forum.
I hope that people around our country are aware of the fact that Conservatism as a movement is heavily subsidized and requires a huge amount of blood,sweat,and toil to feed the beast, lest it collapse under it's own weight. Conservatism feeds on grief, and fear, and the beast always demands tithing from the worshipers at it's feet.....hell yeah!......I'll bring my sign and my vocal chords.....and let Schlafly know that this nation is not for sale......not now, and not on Sept 25 & 26.
'Talk to the hand'
don't sink to the level of the teabaggers.
Medicare for All Act - Amends the Social Security Act to add a new title XXII (Medicare for All) under which: (1) each eligible individual is entitled to benefits which include the full range and scope of benefits available under the original fee-for-service program under parts A (Hospital Insurance) and B (Supplementary Medical Insurance) of title XVIII (Medicare), with parity in coverage of mental health benefits, subject to appropriate cost sharing; (2) each enrollee is free to choose his or her own doctor and private health plan; and (3) benefits are not less than the benefits offered to Members of Congress and Federal employees under FEHBP (Federal Employees Health Benefits Program).
Establishes the Medicare for All Trust Fund.
Amends the Internal Revenue Code to impose: (1) on the income of every individual a tax equal to 1.7% of wages received; (2) on every employer an excise tax equal to 7% of the wages paid to each employee; and (3) on the self-employment income of every individual, a tax equal to the applicable percentage of the self-employment income for such taxable year.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/26/77256...
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/08/26/breitbart...
Didn't even think this ass would stoop so low.
Screw him.
scum of the earth breitbart!
And Mexico has taken a progressive step toward ending the drug wars.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/world/ameri...
Legalization!
RIP also to Dominick Dunne. Despite tragedy and hardships, both of them accomplished many great things in their lives.
They were good men and they'll be missed.
As sad as this is, I'm glad he got to live to 77 and live out his life without another assassination.
some time ago: "In battle, in the forest, at the precipice in the mountains, On the dark great sea, in the midst of javelins and arrows, In sleep, in confusion, in the depths of shame, The good deeds a man has done before defend him." It is from the Bhagavad Gita. I had the senator in mind when I first posted it. Whatever his faults or failings Ted Kennedy developed some very deep defenses with a lifetime of noble work in the service of the public. May those deeds defend him.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
And a fine quotation, too.
I think the positives, the good that the man did- or even attempted to do, but couldn't achieve- far outweigh the negatives in his life. If the Senate had a handful more Ted Kennedys we'd live in a much better place, imo.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
but that's okay because he might bring even more attention to the healthcare debate. RIP Teddy and my condolences to his family.
I was at the Lakewood Wa. town hall held by Adam Smith last night and for the most part it was very civil. I saw myself on a Fox news broadcast here in the Puget Sound area and a glimpse of my blue shirt on King 5 news, but there wasn't much else on the news about it. There was a small altercation when a bunch of guys tried to tear one the picture of Obama with the Hitler mustashe out of one young punks hand. It was very informative but there needs to be more work done because the MSM has many of the people totally misinformed.
Hey, I would appreciate it if someone has videos of it, they will share with us. Thank God we have each other.
because I almost feel like he was part of all our families.
Because it bears repeating.
Well said, Ron. Well said.
Here's hoping Senator Kennedy's legacy of fighting for the rights and dignity of all Americans is realized this year in the establishment of good healthcare for all. And let us use this moment to redouble our commitment to the idea that government exists for the benefit of the governed, the state exists for the benefit of the citizens and the economy exists for the benefit of the consumers. Not only because it's right, but because history has shown that any other formulation leads to disaster. Thank you, Ted Kennedy.
"Gender Equality", "Child Soldiers" and "Humanitarian Law" are Axed from Canadian Foreign Policy Language
Neo-con PM Harper's hidden agenda rears its ugly head. This is basically a step away from the ICC, "Canadian" peace-keeping, and defending women and children rights during conflict. If this scum ever gets a majority parliament, Canada will not be recognizable.
I hadn't heard about that! It ain't boring, it's scary!
Kinda like the 'war on terror' is now the 'overseas contingency operation'.
Yikes!
I'm afraid people read Foreign Policy Language, and yawn. Especially after 1 am. But you're right, it is scary Harper can take away inherently Canadian things like peace-keeping without even getting 50% of the vote. Plus his office refuses to talk about these changes, hoping they just go unreported. And it seems they are getting their wish.
Send that link to your friends CL. Then ask War Child Canada why they're not screaming to the heavens about it.
As a Canadian I found it intriguing. Unfortunately I was dismayed to find it was utter self-serving bullshit from the foreign affairs bureaucracy arguing that they should control foreign policy and that the government should merely be responsible for it. Many of these bureaucrats were appointees from the previous Liberal government. Why is this bad you may ask? Suppose it were Bush appointees sticking around and demanding to set government policy instead of the elected government. I think you get the picture. There is a reason we have elections.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
He's so critical of America...I'd like to see what he's got to say about something that happens in his own country.
But anyway...that sucks!
Seems your Harper is aspiring to be like our bush.
That's a shame.
You know the tattoo fad has "jumped the shark" when pre-pubescent girls and grannys are getting them.
after 25 years of a bs way of counting the unemployed...the obama admin may finally be giving out the right numbers
reported today, that if you count those that have given up, and those that are underemployed, the unemployment numbers are much closer to 16 percent
and the fed is admitting that many manufacturing jobs may never return
the myth that this country can sustain itself on service jobs started during the reagan administration
i will tell you now, if we do not create millions of manufacturing jobs...the economy and the country are doomed
As distasteful as it may sound this could give the progressive side of the healthcare debate a boost. At the very least it'll drive the Obamacare=Nazism nutcases out of the spotlight for a few days.
We're now 28 in connection speed. Cheney has the gall to criticize Obama for politicizing investigations. Florida's gay couple adoption ban gets appealed. The National Organization for Marriage wants to make Iowa into the next Prop. 8 state. Most of Latin America is following Mexico in liberalizing drug laws. Yeah, Bush made us so "safe" after 9/11 that even Bernanke's personal info was used in an ID theft ring. A black female pastor gets murdered in McVeigh's old stomping ground. Oz's military court was declared unconstitutional. Courtesy of This Modern World, Limp Dick Bawl argues that naming the health care bill after Ted would exploit his death, since the GOP doesn't know anything about doing that, what with that Iraq war blamed on 9/11, and all...The CDC cites the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy when it comes to swine flu. Why does Obama have a torture insider to reform interrogation methods? Cali is boiling, thanks to global warming. Mission accomplished: Iraq is a toxic waste dump. Even out of office, Bush continues his attempt to steal land for his library. Blinds are recalled for accidental deaths of children. For once, it's a Japanese car which gets recalled. Another anti-stimulus article cites about 4,000 checks going to prisoners who weren't bankers. Did Bill Richardson get a free pass in a corruption investigation? The FDIC is broke. The last time that happened was when Bush I was President.
guessed that I'd agree with Tush Lumpboil on anything except there's this:
"I think if you want to move the health care debate forward, let's do Ted-Care for all. Forever," Limbaugh said. "And make sure that every man, woman and child got the same health care options that Ted Kennedy got."
Wow! Rush really did say that?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
just click on the word "exploit" in Tequilas post
Seems to me those lines negated everything he said before them. Never the less, the last lines are the money ones.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I was born and grew up in St.Louis. I am embarassed by the fact that such a medieval conference scheduled there.It's amazing to what degree our minds can be shrunken. The Progressives in Missouri need to take back the state. St.Louis and St.Louis County know the right path. There are other seats of sense, Columbia and St.Genevieve, but the rest of the state needs help! The DFA and PDA need to be reborn there. When the speakers of a conference include a woman who is (to quote a prior blogger) "one soul short of human", you know that the wingnuts have come. The clip of Ted kennedy singing with a smile on his face shows that he never gave up and thought that we could and should and must do better.
Sanford attacks members of his own party. The CIA was into sleep deprivation. Why would you boo Madonna because she asked the audience not to discriminate against Gypsies?
MUST SEE...Political Irony: THIS SAYS IT ALL! http://politicalirony.com/2009/08/26/outrageous/ Hypocrisy's Bitch = republicans
A crucial climate vote lost with Sen. Ted Kennedy’s death - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-26-cruci...
Sen. Ted Kennedy leaves a legacy of protecting the environment and promoting energy efficiency. And the push for a Senate climate bill -- which needs every vote it can get -- has lost a reliable supporter.
Moves to Strengthen Climate Bill Underway in Senate - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/08/moves...
Ted Kennedy (1932-2009) - Tribute to a Progressive Green Champion - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/08/ted-k...
Ted Kennedy was a masterful politician and an effective, aggressive reformer--he was instrumental in shaping the policies, ideology, and face of modern America. More so, as Slate argues, than any other Kennedy. And though he may have more famous achievements (immigration reform, expanding health care, civil rights for the handicapped) he was also a champion of environmental causes.
Here, we pay tribute to the less celebrated--but no less important--legacy of green achievements he left behind.
Bonner & Associates: the long and undemocratic history of astroturfing - http://www.desmogblog.com/bonner-and-associat...
This isn't an expression of public opinion, it is an highly organized (and shamelessly well-funded) attack on democracy and, as the tobacco documents quoted above prove, it has been typical of the Bonner style for far too long.
If someone is participating in a "grassroots" campaign, their free t-shirts and baseball caps should all say "sponsored by (name your self-interested corporation here)." Those companies have every right to participate in the public conversation.
But we should have every right to know when our elected representatives are getting bamboozled by a "spontaneous" campaign that was ordered up in a corporate boardroom and delivered by people who (if the Bonner example can be extrapolated) really don't care if the truth gets in the way of their messaging.
Progressives Are Raising the Temperature on Healthcare Reform, and it Seems to Be Working -- BuzzFlash News Analysis - http://blog.buzzflash.com/analysis/891
"The Senator Edward M. Kennedy Health Care Reform Act of 2009" -John Nichols - http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/466561...
""that we will break the old gridlock and guarantee that every American -- north, south, east, west, young, old -- will have decent, quality healthcare as a fundamental right and not a privilege." Obama would do well as he celebrates Kennedy's legacy -- and their own deep connection -- to seize upon those words. The great gap in the healthcare debate has, to this point, been one of presidential passion."
HUGE!! Refreshing: Obama's FCC to enforce 'net neutrality' - http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-fc...
Truly making the Internet safe for Democracy....its the last frontier of the 1st amendment....
America's Senator: Sen. Bernie Sanders' (I-VT) statement on the death of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy - http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=e...
Stars and Stripes: Files prove Pentagon is profiling reporters - http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=10...
Moreover, the documents — recent confidential profiles of the work of individual reporters prepared by a Pentagon contractor — indicate that the ratings are intended to help Pentagon image-makers manipulate the types of stories that reporters produce while they are embedded with U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
No New Powers for the Fed - http://www.anewwayforward.org/
What a worthless POS: Chuck Grassley does not believe in the threat of anthropogenic climate change - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-26-chuck...
What a dumb @ss....hey Chuck...I'm sure all those Corn Ethanol constituents will love to hear all about it.... First healthcare, now climate change....wow...what a whore this guy is....shouldn't be suprising...with that 'R' in front of his name...
Video: Howard Dean shouted down at health care forum - http://politicalnewslive.blogspot.com/2009/08...
How to be a moron in 60 seconds brought to you by Big Pharma/Health Insurance multinationals, played by right wingnut morons that amaze me by being able to correctly tie their shoes...
The Weekly Carboholic: Con-servative U.S. Chamber of Commerce files for EPA climate disruption trial - http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2009/08/26/t...
Also this week: GRACE satellites show water use in India is unsustainable; biofuel crops may become next invasive species; is GM’s 230 MPG Volt claim real; Tubular Rail aims to invert train and rail; July global ocean temperature sets two records.
Pseudo-Economists know as much about real science as Sarah Palin knows about reality....case closed.
Bank Looting Bonuses Reported--Will the SEC Awake from Its Slumber? - http://www.prwatch.org/node/8510
NYT editorial: World's Best Health Care - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/opinion/26w...
Working Families Mourn the Loss of Sen. Edward Kennedy - http://blog.aflcio.org/2009/08/26/working-fam...
Ted Kennedy Was a Long-Term Advocate of Medicare for All Americans, Regardless of Age. The Health of the Individual Insures the Health of the Nation.
- http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/arch...
Brad Blog: For Those Kool-Aid Drinkers Duped Into Defending Torture in Our Name... - http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7375
Special election for Kennedy's seat likely in January - http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/264...
Boston Globe: Who Will Bear the Kennedy Torch? - http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusett...
Joseph Kennedy II may run for his Uncle's seat...
British Progressives Mobilize on Climate Change - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpM3ggDSOzw
Portland’s newest high-rise has wind turbines on the roof - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-24-portl...
Hollywood’s next green generation - http://www.grist.org/article/2009-08-26-holly...
Political Irony: http://politicalirony.com/2009/08/26/keep-it-...
We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children - Native American proverb
If being cold means there's no such thing as global warming, does being full mean there's no such thing as world hunger?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/A...
WASHINGTON — Georgia's Republican senators, Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, voted against the $787 billion economic stimulus package, blasting the bill as a bloated government giveaway.
But their disdain didn't stop them from later asking Defense Secretary Robert Gates to steer $50 million in stimulus money to a constituent's bio-energy project.
Gates didn't do it, but Chambliss, Isakson and other Republican opponents of the stimulus aren't going empty-handed.
Billions of dollars worth of Defense Department stimulus money is paying for repairs and construction at military installations in areas represented by lawmakers who said "no" to the legislation, according to an analysis by The Associated Press.
The request from Chambliss and Isakson isn't the only one Gates and other top defense officials received before and after President Barack Obama signed the stimulus law in February. Their pitch stands out, though, because of the GOP's staunch opposition.
As Congress considered the legislation earlier this year, Republicans called it a partisan bill bound to make the size of government grow, not the economy. Not a single House Republican voted in favor of the bill; only three Senate Republicans did so.
Trashing the stimulus and also welcoming the money is a sore point for Democrats who say the GOP can't have it both ways. But Republicans say there's no inconsistency in opposing wasteful spending while also backing worthwhile projects.
The Pentagon is staying out of the fight. Navy Cmdr. Darryn James, a Pentagon spokesman, said political considerations were not a factor as defense officials put together the department's stimulus spending plan. The two main criteria were that projects could be started quickly to boost the economy and would also improve the quality of life for military personnel.
In statements, Chambliss and Isakson said helping their constituents is an important part of their jobs. In this case, it was Bell BioEnergy of Tifton, Ga., which is developing a process to convert waste into fuel.
Overall, Georgia is getting just over $200 million in defense stimulus money for work at installations that include the Army's Fort Stewart and Fort Gordon, and Moody Air Force Base.
Just a few days after criticizing the "staggering" cost of the stimulus, Rep. Brett Guthrie, a Republican from Kentucky, urged Gates to consider using stimulus money to renovate a military hospital at Fort Knox, a sprawling Army base located in his congressional district.
The story goes on.
I had a neat dream last night; I dreamed I was dead.
It wasn't clear at first, it was me and some members of my family entering a dark mansion. As we were turning on the lights we were talking about what we'd hope we see. The furnishings were exactly what we wanted. It was a very clean 1920's style mansion furnishings. Someone said the only thing missing was a family portrait. And almost as soon as spoken and white enameled filigreed frame picture was found on the mantle piece, that wasn't there before with a picture of someone in the family.
Then we went to eat, and found a large number of people and food laden tables and it was buffet style. I think I heard someone say we were dead, so I thought, "Screw the doctor's orders," and bit into a large chocolate, chocolate chip muffin. Everything seemed so moist. There was some grilled looking meat, which I thought looked close to overdone, but I like well done. Another person disagreed and thought it was underdone. I thought it was roast beef, they thought pork, and I thought it could even be duck. It was delicious.
On another table there looked like there was only a dab of mashed potatoes, but it made a good size mound on my plate. Everything seemed heavy with butter, but then being dead, I didn't care about cholesterol levels anymore. The gravy was delicious.
I remember bugging people with odd questions like how many beings could literally occupy the same spot simultaneously as long as they weren't in the same plane of reality? It was my version of how many angels could dance on the head of a pin.
We then saw a movie in a den explaining the place. I remember leaving saying I'd be more impressed if it had production values after the 1950's to some people's annoyance.
It turned out it wasn't heaven or hell, but a haunted house, and the resident ghosts were lonely for company. More than likely whatever we saw or ate there is what we wanted to find, not necessarily what was there in actuality.
Funny thing, there was no drinking or sex that I remember.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Have you been to Disneyland lately?
'Talk to the hand'
That I was Mark Wahlberg, portraying a Native American...strange I know, but wait it gets better...this person, me, Wahlberg...whoever, was a gun nut, but couldn't figure out how to load the clips right, and had to get his nerdy younger brother to do it for him.
There was a lot of running through cities, and fields, and alot of scowling, and pointing of guns...but no shots were fired...
I think I need to lay off the FPS games for awhile...and the late night snackage.
Years ago I dreamed I was in Hell.
There were this narrow slippery dark stone steps leading down, and I had to brace myself against hot sweaty bricks walls. Once down I found it was an overheated, dark-red brick stone strip club with the devil looking like Rod Serling in his customary suit.
Frankly, I found all the hot sweaty nekkid flesh of the dancers erotic.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Well, that brought tears to my eyes. He will be missed so much.
Me too. I'm still here though.
is intended to be a factual statement
I'm typing this from work because frankly, I can't take work any more.
All I've been thinking for the last day and a half is, "Who is going to represent me, a liberal, now that Sen. Kennedy is gone?"
Then...my time as a Wellstone volunteer passed through my head and I began to cry.
Then, I remembered. It's over. Senator Al Franken is indeed, a serving Senator and I felt a little bit better.
You had big shoes to fill before Senator. They just got a little bigger. God speed.
Even with the knowledge of his terminal illness I was unprepared for the news of his death. I gasped out loud when I read the headline and shed a tear. Some part of me believed that his tremendous life force would win out. I believed the same thing about JFK Jr. and held out hope for days that he would survive.
The Kennedy family progressed America in a way that created new expectations and bold dreams. Teddy had a messy personal life but he never went around preaching morality either. For that matter neither did his mother Rose who was deeply religious but never wore it on her sleeve.
Has any news outlet contacted the family of Mary Jo Kopechne?
How do they feel about Mary Jo's death being scrutinized again? Are they happy or disgusted with picking of this old wound?
I am absolutely furious over the way her death is being used as a political prop by the right.
Seriously, I'm ready to physically throw down over this. I've lost 25 pounds and have a head full of crazy waiting to be unleashed on one of these psuedo-humans.
I have a question regarding the media coverage of Sen. Kennedy's death.
A certain lady's name is being drudged up and thrown around a lot. I'm wondering how her family feels about one of their own being treated as a prop for political theater.
Has anyone seen any news on the subject? Has the family made a statement at all, regarding Sen. Kennedy's death?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/27/health...
Comments? I tried to tell my friend that illegals shouldn't be discounted from buying insurance if they can afford it. Doesn't that seem to make sense?
Also most other nations have universal care, so most of the time the other country will pay for things.
The bill forces them to have insurance, it just doesn't give them govt. subsidies to pay for it. Which sounds good to me, if your here illegally you shouldn't get any govt. help. Except maybe for the trip back to where you came from.
are! Where does all that money go that is taken from their checks for ssi and taxes?
THE MINSTREL BOY BY Thomas Moore
The minstrel boy to the war is gone,
In the ranks of death you'll find him;
His father's sword he hath girded on,
And his wild harp slung behind him;
"Land of Song!" cried the warrior bard,
(Should) "Tho' all the world betrays thee,
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard,
One faithful harp shall praise thee!"
The Minstrel fell! But the foeman's steel
Could not bring that proud soul under;
The harp he lov'd ne'er spoke again,
For he tore its chords asunder;
And said "No chains shall sully thee,
Thou soul of love and brav'ry!
Thy songs were made for the pure and free
They shall never sound in slavery!
God bless and keep you, Teddy.
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
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