Glenn "McCarthy" Beck tries to link Communists to Obama, but they don't cooperate
By David Neiwert Thursday Mar 05, 2009 3:10pm
Glenn Beck's getting increasingly strident and desperate in his attempt to portray the Obama White House as a den of Communism. Yesterday he opened up with yet another "Comrade Update" that actually depicted visiting British Prime Minister Gordon Brown as a totalitarian simply for having extolled "cooperation."
By that standard, I guess, Sesame Street is a Commie Indoctrination Program. And at this point, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to find out the Beck indeed believes that to be the case.
In any event, he followed this smear by immediately having on Sam Webb of the Communist Party USA, claiming that Webb had declared Barack Obama a Communist ally:
Beck: You said that he was not only a friend, but an ally.
Webb: I don't think I said that. I only said that he is a people's advocate.
Beck: No, you said an ally.
Webb: No, I don't think I did. I made the speech, you didn't.
Actually, if you peruse the speech in question, you'll see that Beck is wrong. Maybe this is the part he's thinking of:
In the meantime, we have some immediate struggles on our hands But the good news is that the broad movement that elected President Obama and larger majorities in the Congress is up and running.
This movement, or if you like, this loose coalition in which labor plays a larger and larger leadership role, can exercise an enormous influence on the political process. Never before has a coalition with such breadth walked on the political stage of our country. It is far larger than the coalition that entered the election process a year ago; it is larger still than the coalition that came out of the Democratic Party convention in August.
The task of labor and its allies is to provide energy and leadership to this wide-ranging coalition. Yes, we can bring issues and positions into the political process that go beyond the initiatives of the Obama administration. But we should do this within the framework of the main task of supporting Obama’s program of action.
We can disagree with the Obama administration without being disagreeable. Our tone should be respectful. We now have not simply a friend, but a people's advocate in the White House.
What is in fact most remarkable about Webb's speech is that, unlike conservatives, Communists -- who have clear philosophical differences with Obama and could similarly wish for him to fail -- are more concerned that Obama's plan succeed because it's better for the country.
In other words: A bunch of Commies are more concerned about the nation's economic well-being than Conservatives are.
Beck in any event tries, McCarthylike, to bait Webb into casting Obama in the line of Communist thinkers, like Marx or Lenin -- and Webb refuses.
Webb: He's not a Socialist, he's not a Marxist.
Beck: Why do you push yourself away from Lenin and Marx?
Webb: I don't, myself, but Barack Obama does. He's not a Socialist, he's not a Communist. You know, you bandied that about during the campaign, and now people are bandying it about town, and the answer is no.
Beck at this point interrupts Webb, and spends the next three minutes talking over him and badgering him. At one point he asks: "Why can't you have a real conversation?"
Answer should have been: "Because you keep interrupting, you moron!"
But there you have it, folks. Glenn Beck: A New McCarthy for a New Century!
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dont worry no one is paying attention,, its glenn beck
He's trying to be more over the top than Limbaugh. He's jealous no one is paying attention to him.
Call me when Glenn suspects Pres. Obama is a drag queen. I imagine that will be next.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIK_ML_YM24
to loan our banks some more money so they evil Obama administration won't take them over?
The Chinese aren't even going to do an economic stimulus for their economy.
So ECONOMIC STIMULUS IN NOT A FORM OF SOCIALISM because EVEN THE SOCIALISTS aren't doing it.
tough luck Beck. Go back to the drawing board.
They are communists. Big, HUGE difference there.
Socialists prefer getting to the same ideal as Communism, just through peaceful, gradual reform, versus violent revolutions, as Communists would like to see.
Beck is trying to party like it's 1995, but it just ain't. This psychotic, paranoid ranting in the service of the wealthy is just played out. Even most of the idiots recognize it now.
I thought nobody could be a bigger jerk and blowhard that Bill O'Reilly. Then Hannity came along and took the crown. I thought no one could touch him in his smug outrageousness. Boy was I wrong. This Beck guy gets on my last nerve and not because of what he says, but how he says it. Really, do people sit through a whole show of his?
I think Beck is mentally challenged, or functionally retarded. Colbert ripped him a new one last night with his "Doom Bunker".
I've read through the FCC regulations...or lack of...but I can't find where it says that crazy people are allowed to host shows.
Oh well, it's liberty.
Laugh on, citizens.
that is easily checked...can someone do that?
I will just about guarantee that at least 10 of the 20 percent goes to the LDS Church.
That is what the Mormons do, I used to work for a guy that owned a chain of domino's pizza's. He owned them during the 80's and 90's when they were booming and yes he said the same 20% went to charity a tax write off.
will beck still send 20 percent?
and he is a mormon?
dont they force their members to give 10 percent no matter what?
but i would still like proof that he gives 20 percent
i remember him setting up that fake charity for iraq vets
if he contributes to his own foundation...well thats a bs tax write off and it doesnt count
Glen Beck is all bullshit, a propagandist talking head. It seems tho he believes himself just by his expressions and his psychotic drive. These guys on the tee vee aren't very bright, just good talker haters. I can do the same, just like him. I love going off and ending it with "look it up" so there HU.
that he's actually serious, or means anything he says. He, like Bill-O, simply wants to antagonize, entertain (ignorant morons), and embellish. It's a schtick.
Rush is an entertainer? In their heart of hearts they really believe the shit they spew and unfortuately so do the deranged/unhinged turds that actually sit through this crap.
People like that say what they say because they know they can make ignorant people agree with them. It pads their numbers and keeps them working. Jeff Christie has so totally won over the ignoramus crowd that he's now the de fecto head of the Republican party.
I can't believe that moron actually trotted out the old "National Socialist Party" line to "prove" that the Nazis weren't fascists.
China calls itself a Republic, Glenn. Is it?
NEVER the two shall meet.... Next will be the black helicopters flying over his double-wide....what an idiot...
but doesn't he have any taste? I mean, what does he drink, Chateau Bayonne? I don't think so. He must have some taste, he doesn't live in a octuple-wide, he live in a mansion.
Jesus, I think even a clown like Moon would be ashamed to put on a deranged moron like Beck.
Someone have Ruppert's wife tune in to Beck for 3 minutes. Ask her what she thinks.
I think I used to see Beck ranting on 42nd St. No, that guy was smarter...
I got to point this out, Glenn Beck gives 20% of his salary to the Mormon church just as they all do, which in turn also makes sure that they get the best highest paying jobs. That is how they win. He doesn't give to a charity, he is giving to his organization. His organization that is corrupting America, the church of ladder day saints, what a joke. A union to make sure his kind stay in power and owns all, control all of society. Glen and them church people have the largest longest running ponzi scam ever created. They make a fake charity for tax right offs power and control.
My god Beck topped is asshole self that time, wow.
Nazi's? Militarized fascists? or nationalized socialists? What a dick.
I always understood the LDS tithe to be 10 percent (after 'expenses'), not 20.
Hey maybe if your making a obscene amount it goes up to 20%? I remember a very rich Mormon saying just the same thing, this was way back during the Clinton years. They have a scam going to cheat taxes and empower themselves. I do consider Beck to be a liar, so who really knows, can you guys find out for us?
Are all these Glenn Beck threads a scheme to prevent me from bitching about all the Bill-O threads?
Bottom line...overexposed loonies do not need more exposure.
goober beck, billo and limpballs all need to be taken
off the air for their treasonous remarks and attempts
at inciting violence against President Obama and America.
i am fed up with them and hope that all that crap they
dish out against Obama and America comes crashing down
on them soon. bigotry, racism and crimes against the
president and America, that all three of these bastards
support, are definitely what a "enemy combatant" is.
fuck all of them and the morons who support them.
my comments above a bit harsh, but express my anger with
all that has happened and is happening to this country
by the gop and all their criminal attempts to take over
this country for their bastard party.
Sweet response!! I love "limpballs" I will always think this when I see his hate-spewing pie-hole.
Now I know why Beck is on Fox. Not even CNN would let him pull this crap.
Excellent comment dadams.
Karl Marx - Capital A Critique of Political Economy - The General Law of Capitalist Accumulation
I am wondering if I heard something like that in one of Obama's stump speeches.
Or maybe I was dreaming.
From the Communist Party USA website here.
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The revolution I envision is a Jeffersonian Revolution. From the declaration:
Alice X
Very well said. Obama is as much of a socialist as Glenn Beck is a liberal. Unfortunately the people in this country have been effectively manipulated by the media and the politicians to believe that socialism is supposed to be evil despite the fact that Medicare and Medicare and Social Security, among other things, are socialist agencies that have been used for the good of the people. As your excerpt from the Declaration of Independence states, the people in this country have the right if not the duty "to alter or to abolish" their government.
If the faux socialist Obama continues to prop up failed corporate institutions and eschews single payer health care for a system that keeps the profit driven insurance companies in charge of that system and insists upon slaughtering innocent women and children abroad, then it may be time for the citizens of the United States to think about exercising that particular part of the United States Constitution.
Limbaugh/Beck in 2012! The fresh new faces of the republican party.
Apparently unless you're a free-market capitalist with anti-social ethical structure, you're now a communist in the eyes or the right-wing retards.
This blew up right in his face.
Any idiot with even a cursory understanding of Marxism would know that Obama is NOT a Marxist. He's a milquetoast Keynesian, pure and simple.
This is a sign of how far the media dialogue has shifted to the right in this country. Someone like Obama is depicted as a "Marxist" without any serious refutation from anyone reputable in the MSM.
Beck overreached on this one. He tried to interview an actual Marxist. When Webb tried to make an assertion that anyone with a basic understanding of political theory would understand ("Obama is NOT a Marxist"), Beck gets pissed and tries to filibuster his guest when the interview doesn't go as planned.
Good job, Mr. Webb!
You made Beck look like the fool he is.
Everytime I've watched this fool I come away convinced of the opposite of whatever he's saying.
He's such a fool that he actually could convince me to hold the opposing view.
He doesn't seem to do any real research, he doesn't know what he's talking about, it would be sad if he wasn't such a prick.
It is always great that the understudy wants the part of the star player. It shows you are an up and comer, but we need more from you Glenn. You just aren't cutting it yet. You diatribe hasn't gone over the top. You haven't misquoted in the thousands yet, you just don't have the experience, the hatred. The "pissed about this and that" is okay, but you have to get tough. Can you offer anything unique that we might consider in granting you a contract for this new show you propose? What are you going to give the audience? Do you have a drug problem that we can exploit and then cover up? We can't find any involvement in the Anselmo Pederasty case, but if you have that kind of experience, we will certainly consider it. Have you any skeleton's in your closet that would show you beat any one or enslaved, tortured, you know, the entertainment oriented things we need to draw a crowd?
GLENN BECK FLY SPECK
a stupid american.
he is truly a fucktard
but i wish webb had explained the stalin was not a communist either
Does this guy really think that mugging goonily for the camera, whooping guffaws, and derisive kerfluffling noises really make good substitutes for talent? Egad, yet another clown who only had a job because he willing to read anything from the script of his insane corporate masters so long as his paycheck is there every 2 weeks. In other words: a whore.
Beck can't really beleive the crap he spews- this has got to be an act, otherwise the man is a total retard..
How do you guys manage to sit through a Glenn Beck program?
Are you looking for material to post?
The guy is patently stupid.
He even looks stupid.
His manner of speaking is irritating.
The content of his spiel is pure drivel.
How do you do it?
Why do you do it?
[sigh]
5 minutes of my life I will never get back.
Beck, you fleck of detritus, go to Hell.
How can China even be thought of as communist when it is not. It is ran by the military. To call it communist, would be admitting that the US is communist. Both nations are more similar than different right down to the military basically owning the nations. Even the same capitalist methods are used in both nations. China also offers some social programs, as does the US. So really when you boil it down, and truthfully answer the similarities, China is no more communist than any other nation on earth.
I'm living in Europe. Question:
Does this crap air in the U.S. during prime time?
Along with Hannity, O'Reilly, and whatever freaks of nature I left out, is there a counter balance to this? Some program that actually talks about reality?
and the reason we have no teevee in our house.
The "balance" is from "comedy" shows (like The Daily Show of Jon Stewart)
But how sad that America has come to a point in its history where the only viable source of political information and world events is a comedy program.
it is outrageous that comedy shows expose the real news - but they do it very effectively.
Check out the Daily Show clips in the video cafe here at C & L.
BuzzFlash.com has a bunch of Stewart clips up now as well.
No, sane americans NEVER watch Hannity, the Human Manatee Show, anything on Fox Noise which includes Billy O'Loofah, the Assclown. Add Limbach, the Republican Noise machine to the list and you've got a prescription for the nuthouse.
Sane americans watch their politics on CSpan and then get their nightcap with Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.
These morons you've mentioned are becoming increasing less relevant to the citizems of this country. They've all become 'human punch lines' and nothing more. Oops...forgot the NeoNazi Glen Beck - add him to that list of bloviating, drooling fools.
No real counter, and yes they are basically prime time, I have 3 fox channels, maybe more? Olberman at 8pm is on same time John Stewart is. that I consider a fumble, Stewart should be bumped ahead or behind Olberman. Don't forget about Colbert. All basically right wing crap even G4 tv.
Imitating something in such a ludicrous way in order to provide amusement at that something's expense.
I looooove watching him. He says exactly what I HEAR coming from the mainstream conservative movement :-)
This idiot should know all about communism - he's a neo-nazi and makes no bones about it. He's hate-filled and loathes himself. Beck's day of infamy is well behind him - he's yesterday's news.
Next!
for the cause -
self - loathing is not a problem for Mr. Beck.
Glen Beck is a member of the Mor(m)on church.
Mor(m)on males who follow the directions and dictates of the LDS heirarchy become GODS when they die.
Having lived among the GODLINGS for some time, I can assure you that they do not loathe themselves.
Here is one of Beck's own who describes Sam Webb as a 'Liberal Loon'. It is informative to see what the ilk have to say. They are the dupes.
The Congress of 1947 enacted the National Security Act which created the CIA, the Military Industrial Complex and the Cold War.
For sixty years the National Security State has conducted an intense program of propaganda against the American People to indoctrinate them against Socialism, whatever form it takes and Socialists whatever they call themselves.
This program of propaganda was at the behest of the war profiteers who saw their vested interest advance with the rise of US militarism. The program was a matter of indoctrination, it was not about national security.
It continues to this day.
Sam Webb sadly does not fight back effectively against Beck, who is being ever so impolite and condescending,
Strike directly at the heart of the matter. Beck is a tool of the Corporate State. There really is no other argument that needs to be made.
Very astute.
I enjoy your comments.
I thought Sam did pretty well. He stayed relaxed and unintimidated and maybe it's just me but I thought he was much more likable. I especially liked it when he asked Glenn what his salary is and Glenn would only say he gives 20% of it to charity.. of course 20% of whatever Beck earns still leaves him with many times what Sam does..
So maybe we need to find out to which 'charities' Glenn gives, that should be interesting.. and how much of that is tax deductable thereby directing public money to his choice of 'charities'.. you think the dominatrix in the mask and marine uniform has a registered charity?
This was by far the most incriminating evidence that beck has lost his marbles.
How much longer the propaganda network be embarrassed by this goon?
back during the campaign when Stephen Colbert had the real Socialist Party candidate on his show to refute the notion that Obama was a socialist.
This nonsense of Beck's shows that sometimes life imitates art!
with this type of FOX "News" format is that no one has enough time to discuss anything with any historical context. You only have 7-8 minutes to throw sound bites around.
For example, Beck plays "gotcha" with the whole "National Socialism" title as if Nazism=Socialism. This is bullshit, and unfortunately Webb didn't have time to explore the concept at length. The Nazis adopted the term "socialist" for the same reason that the fascist Falange party in Spain adopted the red and black colors of the anarchists. Both the Nazis and the Falange wanted to present themselves as "friends of the worker", when the exact opposite was the case.
Anyone interested should read Daniel Guerin's book "Fascism and Big Business." Private, for-profit companies made money hand over fist in Germany during the 1930s. The Nazis were not enemies of private property or corporations. In fact, they championed both.
Hitler was a shameless political opportunist and grand standing populist who felt no compunction in stealing ideas or even labels from other parties.
Glenn,
Clearly, you have the inside scoop on Obama. He is a commie, just as you say.
Please be prepared, then, for him to outlaw the Republican Party, and put all Republicans in jail.
The media will be next. Anti-administration commentators will be executed, as Obama takes over the airwaves.
Since he is a Muslim, born in Kenya, we will be under Sharia law. Also, you will have to prove that you have at least 25% African American blood to buy or sell anything in the country.
If this doesn't sound like a plausible future, then you'd better rethink some of your assumptions.
The people who have been through oppressive regimes, or who live in them now, deserve better than someone like you talking about Communism - a subject about which you know nothing.
from Richard Evans' excellent new book "The Third Reich In Power":
"The truth is, the economic system of the Third Reich defied easy categorization....Nazi economic planning was clearly not designed to further the interests of the working class, as its Soviet counterpart was, at least officially. While Soviet planning under Stalin more or less eliminated free markets and free enterprise, Nazi planning left business intact, from great firms like IG Farben all the way down to small retailers and backstreet artisanal workshops." (p. 371).
Nazism =Socialism=Bullshit
Shove it, Beck.
...because the more they do the more they turn the country against themselves. So let 'em rip.
... and a brain for sedition.
"Beck at this point interrupts Webb, and spends the next three minutes talking over him and badgering him. At one point he asks: "Why can't you have a real conversation?""
an answer of equal value to beck would be,
"i don't converse with shit-for-brains people
or who have fetid salad dressing running out their
ears."
More stupid and unhinged than ever.
Glenn beck... hahahaha
It's pathetic how he treats his guests. He was dripping with sarcasm in almost every word and facial expression he made. And then he tries to have a pissing contest about how much he gives to charity???? Yeah that's real noble of you to brag about how much you give... haha And of course Beck couldn't say how much he made so that the 20 percent was put in perspective...
It's embarrassing this can be put on television...
Anything that draws viewers and hits right-wing talking points is A-OK with Roger Ailes! No worrying what kind of horrible consquences this kind of rhetoric may incite, is that it?
There's enough food in Beck's skull to feed every squirrel on the planet.
its getting more and more likely from their 'stage' behavior.
that beck's finger smells like hannity's ass?
LMAO! I am wiping coffee (that heretofore shot through my nose as I laughed hysterically at your comment) off of my monitor as I type...
Beck sounds like he has been giving propaganda speeches all his life. Oh, that's right, he has been. One does not become such a rabble-rouser without practice.
It's as if Beck has been given a very specific set of message points about Obama at FOX SPEWS. The way he goes after very specific answers and talking points. The right is bending over itself to prove that Obama is a communist ... anything to label him something Americans can start to dislike. Guys like Glen Beck are whores and not the good kind.
WHat would happen if everybody just stopped watching television. Let's face it ... it's a propaganda machine. It lulls us to sleep and tells us what to talk about and what to think. THe corporate media can get people to do almost anything. INcluding attack a country that was not the slightest threat to us at all. We get killed and destroy lives and so what ... if these people/ celebrities in business suits say it's the liberals that we need to hate then a lot of people think they are informed and that this is a proper way to think. The number one problem we face is ignorance. The corporate media and corrupt politicians want us dumbed down and in debt.
If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
this guy has brought obnoxious to a whole new level
is delusional. Help the failing and corrupt banks: That's fine. Help the American people: It's Commu-Socialism!!!
Pay no attention to the whining child.
is a douche bag...
This guy is a total MADMAN!
NO one on the left did ANYTHING like this to Bush while he was president, ever... not even in jest. And especially not this soon in the presidency.
Just imagine if a NEWS organization had put on this kind of freak show with it's left wing commentator dressed up in a Nazi uniform seig heil-ing to Bush. That would have been horrible.
But it's apparently OK for FOX to lay down this kind of DANGEROUS nonsense.
This guy Beck is an COMPLETE DISGRACE.
A COMPLETE DISGRACE.
Will Beck let the man answer a single question without immediate interruption? What a jackass. If the CPA guy is such a batshit lunatic, he will expose that as he answers questions. Instead, Beck made him look good by comparison to his own idiotic, blow-hard ranting.
I think the time is nigh to begin referring to Beck and his ilk as Fascists (with a capital F). If they're going to employ hyperbole to call Obama and the Democrats 'socialists' and 'communists', then we need to make sure they have to explain why they are not Fascists at every turn. Might put them in a bind, because they are Fascists.
I have a feeling he is including in that percentage the 10 percent of *gross* earnings that all Mormons in good standing are obligated to give to the Mormon Church. On top of this "tithing," there are additional contributions encouraged of members of the Church called "fast offerings" that pay for building churches and temples, maintenance fees, running church programs, and so on. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the money Beck gives to charity in fact goes to the Mormon Church.
Btw, the Mormon Church's 10 percent tithe is pretty close to a church TAX if you ask me... not paying is really not an option for members of the church. And the Mormon Church's roots are in fact in early 19th century radical communitarianism, where all property and wealth was consecrated to the Church and then redistributed to members as earthly "stewards." This created considerable problems for certain wealthy converts of the Church who subsequently wanted to leave the Church and take their property with them.
Beck=Epic Fail
Glenn needs to complete his search for truth. Nazis are a nationalize socialist party, that came out of a capitalist country with unheard of poverty and a huge gape between the wealthy and the poor. The Right wing came out with the Nazi party in response to the Democratic party in Germany who wanted a peaceful resolution. The Nazis wanted a revolution, War. Sound familiar Glenn, with your "War Room". The people who scare me the most are ones with unreasherched opinions.
This is the most media exposure the ACP has even expected in many years, and Beck just gave it to them, however unfruitfully to his purposes.
This comes at a time when even the Russian communist party has been rendered inconsequential. During the last Duma elections, Zyuganov had to admit that the party has fewer members (~93k) than Russia has polling stations (something like 96,300) and thus it was impossible for them to send an observer to each one.
Didn't I just read that Becks ratings were soaring since joining Fox?
All of you who say he doesn't matter should think again. The fact that another hatemonger has a forum like this is more and more alarming.
I comepletly agree with you - Beck is a racist, hate-mongering fool with a platform that's growing. The fairness doctrine,(which isn't happening under this administration because our President said it wasn't happening) would be welcome if it could shut this moron up. He is the most ignorant, ranting ass I've ever seen on the tv machine and makes O'Reilly and Hannity seem sane and intelligent. Fox news should be shut down altogether for spreading hate and lies from coast to coast.
You can count on republiKKKons like Beck to call people out who disagree with them by using the exact phrases that represent what he and the other republiKKKons are doing. Can you imagine any party any more reichwing fascist than the party of GW Bush and Beck?? All these republiKKKons are poor actors. I can't imagine Beck giving his Mother 20% of anything let alone the Moron Church.
He and Limpballs need to be in jail instead of spreading lies on TV. Talk about unAmerican, these two are leaders in that movement to destroy America. Free speech should not be allowed to come this close to wishing America's demise so the nazi republiKKKons can keep on raping America.
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