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Glenn Beck was on Greta Van Susteren's show last night, plumping his new book, Common Sense -- which, like most right-wing titles, is actually a piece of Newspeak that represents roughly the opposite of what it appears to mean -- and repeating his charge that "the progressive movement is the "disease" that is killing this country".

You see, he's been reading Jonah Goldberg, so he's reached this conclusion (with some help from libertarians). And there's no doubt that the basic argument is right: Beginning in the early 1900s, the progressive movement definitely shifted the direction of this nation and shaped it largely into what we see today.

Glenn Beck thinks that's a bad thing. I don't.

Now, I know that Beck reels in money by the barrelful these days. But he hails from a working-class family and often touts his working-class roots.

So I'd like him to meet some Americans before the progressive movement came along:

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These are child laborers from the early part of the last century. They were common fixtures on the American landscape. Possibly some of Beck's ancestors were among them. (Here's a gallery of pictures of them.)

I've remarked on this previously, but it bears repeating:

The United States has always been an essentially capitalist economic system. However, we have experienced periods in our history where this system has seriously malfunctioned, and we've made adjustments accordingly that have largely worked well making things better.

One of those dysfunctional periods came at about the turn of the last century, when McKinley was president, corrupt robber barons ran Congress, and the latter-day version of "strict constructionists" ruled the courts. "Laissez faire" capitalism ruled, and America was functionally an oligarchy.

Squeezed out were the working people: the average workweek was 80 hours, there were no weekends, no vacation, only a few holidays, and the barest minimum of pay. Benefits and health care were unheard of. Child labor was the rule.

What happened between then and now? "Progressives" began agitating for better working conditions, and began organizing as labor unions. After a long period of violent repression, these reforms gradually became government policy -- especially in the 1930s under FDR. Americans began getting 40-hour work weeks with weekends off, paid vacations and benefits.

Probably the most significant and lasting legacy of this period of "progressive" innovation was the progressive tax code. It has been a feature of the income tax since its institution in 1913. Who was one of its original champions? Theodore Roosevelt.

The fact is that the United States -- like nearly every single Western capitalist democracy -- is a variable blend of socialism and capitalism, free-enterprise economies with regulatory restraints and modest income redistribution. The result of those "progressive" reforms from 1900-1940 was the birth of the great American middle class and the quality of life we have enjoyed so long we've forgotten what it was like not to have it. People like Glenn Beck seem never even to have learned.

Indeed, when right-wingers like Beck and Goldberg attack "evil progressivism," it sounds a lot like they want us to return to the bad old days under McKinley, when American workers were indentured servants to the wealthy.

Of course, maybe now that they're both wealthy men, there's a simple explanation for that.

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Evet's picture

Like the house of cards it was.

simple
beck is a hypocritical turd.

KingCranky's picture

.....of the overpaid village idiots masquerading as "political commentators".

Hey Glenn, where's all that overwhelming change from all those teabag rallies you and your repulsive, easily-debunked ilk were rapturous about on April 15?

Oh, what's that, just more sound & fury that are quickly forgotten, like those insipid & pathetic "Justice Sunday" gahterings?

Awww, too bad, so sad.

But hey, Glenn, go ahead and start agitating to get rid of all the progressive laws passed in this country, no doubt, bringing back child labor and doing away with the 40 hour work week and overtime will quickly right the rapidly sinking USS G.O.P.

Let's just hope the GOP and worthless Bush Dog Dems take your advice in next year's elections.

redsaunas's picture

Hear that ghostly scream of outrage? That's Tom Paine.

Dude, you know that's true. Thomas Paine would be appalled to have his shit ripped off by this moron.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Yesterday, I was at Borders. In the checkout line, the woman ahead of me had a copy of Beck's "Common Sense" book. I almost said something but figured I should be polite. I almost gagged and got sick, though.

mudshark's picture

I wouldn't have been able to help my self.
I probably would have said "Common Sense?" and just laughed.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

That's a good one! Have to remember that and use it the next time!

theWalrus's picture

"C'mon, Sense?"

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

was "Glenn Beck sucks!"

theWalrus's picture

but that wouldn't work because there *are* people out there who genuinely believe Glenn Beck is a caring, concerned person...You know, he gets all choked up and cries and stuff when talking about America. Naive people love that. You'll just offend them.

Kate's picture

... that saying something nasty or laughing at her would make that woman more receptive to progressive ideas?

We have to be better than they are.

Plus, you don't know her motive for buying the book. Maybe she was buying it to study for a progressive book club.

Believe me, I know your frustration and anger, but we have to communicate better with conservatives. Remember, even the FBI knows that you get more out of treating people with courtesy and cookies than you do from being mean to them!

Now YOU say, "Thank you, Katie dearest. You are right, and I stand corrected."

ron's picture

you can't be serious. He did the right thing, not to say anything. You know that it's impossible to communicate with rightwingers and anyone with common sense wouldn't have to buy the book.

Kate's picture

Again, he didn't know her motive for buying the book. And it's not impossible to communicate with right-wingers. Saying nothing was better than saying something nasty, but not as good as gently asking why she was buying the book.

And please don't think I'm all wishy-washy and don't believe in fighting the conservative politicians in every legal way possible! (Grrrr!)

ron's picture

but we will just have to agree to disagree.

Kate's picture

I agree. Er -- I disagree ... or do I agree?

=<(8-:<>)

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

You let your dog use the keyboard?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Kate's picture

Oh -- no, that was I who was growling, to show my extreme displeasure at right-wing pols. I would let the dog use the keyboard, but she kept ordering rawhide toys on my credit card.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Hey, join the club, I order rawhide toys from online companies like Adam & Eve.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

General Jack D. Ripper's picture
Truth_Critic's picture

A complementary clip; I believe is appropriate. I stumbled across it, thinking what challenges we face, though initially, with the President in mind.

You and Me Against the World:
→[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4zNbFZeAcE ](3:41)


Study the symptoms not the virus...

mudshark's picture

You are probably right. And I stand corrected. For the most part anyway. But I still wouldn't be able to help myself. I would have to say nothing and walk away laughing my ass off. If I was doing research and needed that book. I'd be loud about my disclaimer.

Anyone who buys his crap because they believe in him is lost and can't be saved. Laugh at them. Laugh your ass off at them.

Anyone who believes in that nut case can't be quite right.
But thank you for the lesson on etiquette.:)
What needs to happen is for honest journalists to keep calling this asshat out on his bullshit and prove to them once and for all that he is nuts.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Kate's picture

!

mudshark's picture

Thank you mudshark dearest.:)


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Kate's picture

Thank you, Mudshark dearest!

ron's picture

go with rightwingers. I make a factual statement and they respond, Bullshit."

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Mine generally go that way too.

Or, "It's you must support the troops!"

"I was in the Air Force, so I was one of the troops."

"Oh like that entitles only you to make a comment!"


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Kate's picture

... how about saying in a calm, kind voice, "Excuse me, I'm just wondering why you're buying that book?"

The woman might say she's buying it for her boss to read, or to study in a book group. In which case you can ask her what she thinks of Beck's opinions and go from there.

Or she might answer that she thinks Glenn Beck is wonderful. Then you say -- still calmly and kindly -- "Ah, I see," and just smile (calmly and kindly) and nod, and leave it at that, stepping away an inch or two.

She might turn back to being in line, or she might find the silence uncomfortable and ask you what you think of him. Then you can say (c. and k.), "Well, I disagree with him."

Can you extrapolate from this sample? You don't argue, you don't confront, you're safe within yourself knowing what you know. You are so rich in that knowledge that you can afford to be kind to someone who subscribes to Beck's fear-mongering.

Please don't think that I'm always this self-aware; I'm often caught off-guard by things people say and do, and either don't respond, or respond hastily and badly. But we're supposed to be the more self-aware here, right?

mudshark's picture

Because she believes in Beck. Do you really think that she would give you the time of day?
My money is on the cold shoulder. And or being rude. Laugh at them.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

No, in my experience it goes like this:

"So and so Dem did this". I reply "no, that's not how it happened, prior to that so and so Republican did this" (facts, they hate that).

The ulitmate answer to my debunking is "WELL, both parties are wrong". That is how every single debate ends with my sister.

First, she points out our faults, I prove her wrong and then the end is "Well you're BOTH wrong". ala Ross Perot.

They can't come back with a response about Republican's doing wrong, the end result is always "they both did wrong".

ron's picture

to be a progressive talk show host that had to read any of their books because they are going to be on their show. Thom Hartmann sometimes does and then invites them on his show to dispute their writings.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

I try to reason with people like that, but they can't seem to follow the interweaving of my thought processes.

That's why they like people like billo and glands, they seem "more like them," and I suppose make them feel part of a no-nonsense movement.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

mudshark's picture

Metamucil?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Sawdust.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

I don't say mean and nasty things to people. I treat them with dignity and respect.

You are right that I didn't know that woman's motive for buying the book, but I think I did after she bought it. I saw her get into her car, which had a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on it!

fastfeat's picture

kept my mouth shut, or at worst,been polite. It's not my store; I don't have the right to accost another customer and potentially lose the store a sale.

Mock the Beck fan outside of the store. Small copies of the US Constitution make excellent parting gifts; keep a couple of spares in your vehicle.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Didn't Thomas Payne already have that title?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Evet's picture

to attend anti-union presentations during the workday, at captive audience meetings in which union supporters are forbidden to speak under threat of insubordination.

beckyboo's picture

That say that they won't sign just any old thing that someone brings in to the work place, because it might be bad for them and they are too stupid to know that a unionized work place might be better for them than..oh...making 1/3 as much as their less qualified managers, just because the managers have a "degree". (this is the case in most retail establishments...and the "degree" can often be in anything at all...as long as it is a legitimate college degree of the prescribed number of years.) My current manager has a 4 year degree in elementary education. He is 27 and is making 30 thousand dollars a year more than he would be if he were actually BEING an elementary school educator. He has worked for the company for 6 years. He makes 6 times a year more than I do, and thinks it is fair because he "got an education." Stupid boy.

woodrowfan's picture

Dave, one small correction, the first Income Tax was passed in 1913, not 1916. Taft supported the 16th Amendment to allow such a tax in 1909. The amendment was ratified in February 1913 (Taft's last month in office) and Wilson pressed Congress to include the tax in the bill that lowered tariffs (people forget how regressive the tariff system was at the time). The initial tax set rates ranging from 1 percent for incomes over $4,000 a year to 7 percent for incomes over $500,000. The average family made $1,000 a year at the time, and most made less, so the progressive tax effectively shifted the tax burden from the working and middle classes up to the wealthy. At the time this seemed quite fair to Democrats and (many) Republicans. And yes, TR certainly thought it was fair..

Bluegal aka Fran's picture

We corrected that; thanks for bringing the date error to our attention.

theWalrus's picture

wants the kind of America where Glenn Beck is revered as a God.

we're willing to get hurt in the fight for workers rights.

Evet's picture

One of those dysfunctional periods came at about the turn of the last century, when McKinley was president, corrupt robber barons ran Congress, and the latter-day version of "strict constructionists" ruled the courts. "Laissez faire" capitalism ruled, and America was functionally an oligarchy.

. . . . that's whats happening now. (Again)

oppression of unions and the constraint of interventionist government limits on hours of work and working conditions, and medical attention is something only for those who don't have Jesus as their personal saviour or live in a far away godless socialist country. If every working class family had a TV, a flag and someone to think they were better than, they should be happy and content.

him and his paycheck. but no progress for the rest of us. let's take away some of the inventions of those 'progressives' nad see what he does without things like modern health care. and the weekend off. and civil rights.

why do we give a rats ass what this douchebag says? he's just in it for the paycheck.

Sec_Humanist's picture

My lexicon of derisive, nasty, snotty put-downs is exhausted for this hysterical, unbalanced adolescent. I'm done.


"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.

Lizzy Bennet's picture

The gross ignorance being spewed by Beck is astounding. He can't even get what the whole idea behind progressivism is: to help Americans live a life of dignity, respect, and a little bit of happiness. Everything the progressive movement has done has benefited the majority of Americans, unlike Beck's faux populist tea bagging movement which inadvertently will help corporations and the rich.

I am still surprised that we still have people pulling for a flat tax. A flat tax only helps the rich while being extremely hurtful to the rest of Americans. A flat tax assumes that a dollar's worth means the same among all income levels. A dollar is worth more to a person who is middle class or a part of the ever-expanding poor than a person who is rich. A flat tax rewards the rich while essentially punishing the rest of working Americans.

I've said it a few times before, but we are experiencing our own Gilded Age. Funny how history keeps repeating itself, hoping that maybe one day humanity might get a clue and learn.

Shell5960's picture

I have seen many such pictures. And they are true. Before Social Security and "welfare" and many other laws, it was brutal in the U.S. I always thought "Wow! I am SO glad that *I* didn't live in those times!" But look at today -- health care. It is just as bad. Someday (and hopefully, it will be sooner rather than later), Americans will look back at the year 2009 and think, "Wow! Brutal! I am glad *I* didn't have to endure that!"

But it really astounds me that Americans are so brain dead. It should be a no-brainer. I saw this 25 years ago -- about the time HMOs were brought about. We keep hearing 2 things -- 75% of Americans want single-payer AND 75% of Americans want to keep their current insurance because they love it so much. Which is the lie? I don't know -- only because I don't hold Americans to a high intellectual standard. Of course, going single-payer is a no-brainer. But would Americans FIGHT for it? In France, they do. (Fight for what they want.) In South America, they do. In Iran, they do. On and on. Oh, but not America.

It truly sickens me.

Kate's picture

My father, born in 1911, had to quit school early so he could work to help his family. He had 12 brothers and sisters (the idea of birth control seemingly unknown to good old Grandpa Mac). When he was about 14, my father had to work in one of the coal mines along the Illinois River, sitting in the dark operating a hand pump to get rid of water seeping in. Rats would run across his feet...

Can you figure this out?
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At least Iran, has a good reason! ;)

PS.You may of heard of "Esther Duflo?"

In ending, I would like to inject a little philosophy, if I may... I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for intelligence. I only respect people for their actions. Please reflect, once again, thank you for your time.


Study the symptoms not the virus...

madcat13's picture

Wow, someone else who thinks so. I have a choice at work : to sit at a table where the major topic is American Idol, or at a table where I can't express my political opinions because it "shocks" my colleagues.

I got into an argument a few months ago at the second table when some fool stated that a single-payer plan would mean we couldn't choose our own doctors. I lived in England for 13 years and I know that the single-payer system does work. And I told him so, plus a few other things. Over the next few days he stopped talking to me about politics and this gradually spread to the rest of his cohorts. Why are Americans so reticent to express their views? The Europeans love to argue. I know this from personal experience. My in-laws used to have great ripping rows over Sunday dinner.

My 13 years living abroad gave me a whole new perspective on my country of birth. I love my country and I love my fellow Americans but by gods we need to smarten up.

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oh really's picture

Clown hosts CLOWN.

A match made in heaven (which in Becksqueak would be hell).

These two make a vacuum seem as dense as lead.

FilthyHarry's picture

Leaving England for religious freedom? Progressive!
Establishing independence from England? Progressive!
Ending slavery? Progressive!
Giving women the right to vote? Progressive!
Equal rights? Progressive!
Regulation of the marketplace to keep it from killing us? Progressive!
Etc. etc...

redsaunas's picture

It's always instructive to imagine on what side of any of the great issues of the last 250 years these clowns would be.

It leaves one in no doubt that these are the bad guys.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Actually it's debatable whether Pilgrims and Puritans are all that much different as groups (although the Pilgrims came 10 years earlier).

Essentially, after the hated protectorate of oliver cromwell was overthrown, and the Regency reestablished under King Charles II, the Puritan Parliamentarians were essentially exiled. Afterall, they were guilty of regicide.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

miss_kitty's picture

The Triangle Factory Fire in NYC was a pivotal point for people fighting for the right to work in safe conditions. Many of the women sweatshop workers died due to doors being locked, barred or otherwise blocked, people were trampled, suffocated, burned and jumped to their deaths from the 9th floor of the building (146 out of a workforce of 500, because some greedy asshole didn't want to risk some over worked immgrant ripping him off.

Shortly after the fire, the Executive Board of the Ladies' Waist and Dress Makers' Union, Local No. 25 of the ILGWU, the local to which some of the Triangle factory workers belonged, met to plan relief work for the survivors and the families of the victims. Soon several progressive organizations came forward to help with the relief effort. Representatives from the Women's Trade Union League, the Workmen's Circle (Arbeiter Ring), the Jewish Daily Forward, and the United Hebrew Trades formed the Joint Relief Committee, which, over the course of the next months, allotted lump sums, often to be remitted abroad, to Russia or Italy...
...Local 25 of the ILGWU organized a rally against the unsafe working conditions that led to the disaster. Meanwhile the Women's Trade Union League led a campaign to investigate such conditions among Triangle workers, to collect testimonies, and to promote an investigation. Within a month of the fire the governor of New York State appointed the Factory Investigating Commission. For five years, this commission conducted a series of statewide hearings that resulted in the passage of important factory safety legislation. Frances Perkins, later to become Secretary of Labor under President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, watched the Asch Building burn, an event that influenced her decision to become a lifelong advocate for workers. Perkins assisted in the factory investigation from her position as executive secretary of the New York Committee on Safety.

jharp's picture

Could someone shed some light on how these fucking idiots sell so many books.

I see Mark Levin at the top of the bestseller list and it simply blows my mind.

I'm an educated man who has in been in business 26 years and I'll be damned if I have any idea how they do it.

Actually I really don't even believe the numbers.

Anyone?

Kate's picture

I read somewhere recently that some of the right-wing books are bought in large quantities by rich people to distribute to their churches and other fan groups, and also to bump up the sales numbers.

leftwingwacko's picture

I don't have a link at hand right now, but it has been well documented that these book releases and sales from righty ideologues are well orchestrated, and they are practically given away through promotions at sites like Townhall.com, and Human Events.

Its not just a question of "rich people" buying up the books and giving them away, but of institution and think tanks funded by the wealthy buying them up and giving them away.

Plus they get a lot of free advertising and publicity from the talk radio circuit. There is really no professional or competitive jealousy between them in this regards. You will constantly here Rush or Hannity promote Levin etc..

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Y'all forgot the conservative book clubs, buy a membership and get 10 books for a dollar as a premium.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

miss_kitty's picture

They also buy them up and pulp them, because they CAN'T give them away.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

That's so, but that's also true with all books.

ray gunn lowerd the amount of inventory that publishers and bookstores could report for depreciation on their taxes, causing shorter runs, shorter times in the bookstores before they're marked down and then sent back to the publisher for pulping. Contracts for mid-tier writers get bought out.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Kate's picture

Wow. I didn't know all that -- thanks!

leftwingwacko's picture

Just proved my point, went to Townhall.com and speak of the devil an offer for a free book by Beck for subbing to their magazine.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

I suspect Disney corp of doing the same thing to Jonas Brothers records. It's an old trick.

The only problem is despite being the highest record seller, it's in a market in the slump. The true test to see what's being downloaded.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

The Dallas Morning Nudes finally had a story about shawnta ford today, like what, a week after the event?

I wrote a letter to the editor on Monday (not printed), because some goof was writing a letter talking about the attention Dr Tiller's killing got versus the recruiter, so of course my letter mentioned both roeder, von brunn, and the "under reported story of shawnta ford."


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Andy K's picture

Am I the only one who noticed Beck just rewriting history right around the 1:00 mark?

"...and what they believed in is a, an, uhm, administrative type of government that, where the President is more imperial, and he appoints administrators. That's why we have more czars..."

No, you imbecilic fuck, they believed in an Executive Branch that actually had the power to execute the laws passed by the Congress. As if the early 20th Century progressives advocated the unitary executive theory...

Truth_Critic's picture

I'm not really familiar with that theory, though It did ring-a-bell.

It was discussed in this colloquy, before Congress awhile back. It's an interesting and unfortunate ideologue to endorse... IMO

Please take note of the Smug individual, that seems to support it. Though, I'll assume your allready aware of his position(s). I've yet to look into whom or who instigated such a theory. Thanks again

Addington: Unitary Theory? I Don't Know What That Is
→[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTVWCHHdzCE&fe... ]
(1:46)


Study the symptoms not the virus...

sassafra's picture

i'm sorry guys, i woke up this morning and looking at my clock knew at once that i was late for our weekly meeting of the loony leftists progressive poisoner's guild. uh, what did i miss? what cherished american institution are we scheduled to feed our socialist filth to this week? bwahahahahaha.

constituent's picture

i don't follow beck much at all. he's not convincing. i don't even know much about him as far as why his opinion means much. i try to be open and be somewhat flexible but when some independents/libertarians talk i have images of a conflict with reality. i've met/spoke with those of a anti-government ethos and it seems to be a sales pitch for the (r) party. this romance of individualism/pick yourself up brush off the dust without any help of government just sounds good. the robber barrons of the past took advantage of desperate people and they still do. often the government has been of economic benefit to all including the anti-gov. people, from railroads to federal incentives for universities. with population/demographic growth/shifts it's more challenging to protect us from ourselves. so government grows/intervenes. i just think these independents want the good government but not their bad government. i still believe at times like other groups indies/libs. get people to vote against their best economic interest. it's much more challenging to have a life of i'll live my life my way attitude. when communities change and grow. if you have a business that grows and that growth impacts/ changes the population i think you have to accept the changes as part of business. those changes may require more / changes in government.

We can no longer try to be better than they are. They've had plenty of time to get with the program. They don't want to. To hell with them. They either need to be made to go along with the majority of the public or bypassed entirely. This is no time for the faint of heart. I think we need to get just as hateful as they are. They don't understand anything else.

kasinca's picture

Glenn Beck is a self proclaimed alcoholic drug addict and from his actions he seems to be off the wagon. Him calling anyone else toxic is comical. Oh well he is a right wingnut on FAUX. What would you expect?

Hooker Jay's picture

I think a more apt title for Glenn Beck's screed would be "BEHAVE: A Douche-Kite's IED Strewn Primrose Path To Upstanding Christian September 12th Good Germanism," or simply "Lebensraum Jawohl!" if the previous won't fit.

HarpoSnarx's picture

a pasty 21st century fascist know-nothing doughboy needs an ass kicking.

Harold better head for the Hill(s).

Winski's picture

Beck is a dangerous guy. He knows that what he spews gets people fired up and their pistols cleaned. He also doesn't understand (or care) the limit to which he and his lunatic friends can go before they step over the line to inciting violence against others. It's time for Beck to go away.

There has got to be a way thru the FCC and the complaint process to get this fool pulled off the air.

For Beck it's either he is, or he isn't inciting violence. He has not recognized that there is an in-between part. Beck actually lives in the in-between part, but he won't acknowledge it exists.

It must one of the following...

1) In the pit of his amyglada he knows he's partly responsible, but the money keeps him dishonest with himself.

2) Or, maybe he is text book pathological, in which case he may know full well he's having a deeply regrettable effect and just doesn't care - in fact he could be getting off on it.

3) His mind is twisted like a pretzel and he doesn't take his lithium regularly.

4) He is killing himself on TV?

5) any ideas?


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Sheeple Awake's picture

It's quite the opposite of what this moron is saying. The ideas that brought us to the abyss were conservative ones. George Bush's and Ronald Reagan's regressive ideas.

I'm sure John Amato would agree with that.


The internet is full of bogus 'American patriots', posting from places like Latvia, Qatar, and Nigeria.

with such a range of uses. It is the perfect thickness for balancing that table with the missing claw foot. When purchased as remainders it provides cheaper puppy training material than puppy pads. (Very absorbent) One caveat however. It makes poor toilet paper. Like the written material therein it's too coarse.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Ferrofluid's picture

They regularly get remanded pulped and recycled into toilet tissue.

Buckeyegirl's picture

I bet it's that gray institutional kind that just leaves you with a sore ass after using it.

Nobody for President's picture

You need more fiber in your diet. You're obviously full of shit.

Nobody for President's picture

You need more fiber in your diet. You're obviously full of sh%t.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Sdogg's picture

Beck is a patriot! He cries for our country! Nobody for President, can we send Glen a year's supply of Metamucil?

Ferrofluid's picture

Lets feed his crazy monster, Beck can be the first human on Mars.

...in high school.

They fell asleep in history class.

ahamiltonfederalist's picture
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A fully paid up member of the crazy gang.

When people were doing six day weeks of 12 hour shifts. One thing forgotten is that after 8 hours or so, esp after 10 people stop working efficiently, so those extra work hours are worthless anyway.

Yes you can work the young and fit hard for those long shifts, but it has a toll, workers break. And when you have half the workforce broken or unfit, it takes two people to do a normal job rate.

Hence the ancient meme of gangs of people leaning on shovels.

Janeane The Acerbic Goblin's picture

I used to work a 12 hour shift at a factory a number of years ago. Despite getting a lunch and three breaks, it still was hell on the body and soul. I eventually transfered to another part of the factory that was still on an 8 hour shift. Thank God.

After a while, you just go through the motions and do shitty work. Working an 8 hour day actually makes sense for business as well as workers. It's more efficient to have a well rested and concentrated work force, not an exhausted, incoherent one. But then, what do I know? I don't have a MBA in business, but I have eyes that have seen life.

I don't think Beck knows too much about business or the real world.

surfjac's picture

..So? Its Glenn Beck, who the F cares what he thinks!
Glenn Beck's point of view on anything is a waste of my time. I have no time for Beck and the sheeple that listen to him.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

uncertain's picture

It's more like a cancer.

Modern Conservatism is what's toxic.

What's toxic in this country is that we have far too many whores on air who will say anything, including inciting people to murder, without a care about what it ultimately will do to the country. And the airwaves which used to belong to the People have now been bought up by a handful of capitalist ideologues who also could give a fat rat's ass how what their programming does to the country. These are treasonous monsters who should be run out of town on a rail before they destroy what's left of the country.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

OKGA's picture
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Bonsai pjs, I couldn't agree more. These animals need to be recognized for what that are: traitors.

OKGA's picture

I really wish that whining little btch Glenn Beck would fck off to whatever fascist dump he wants America to be. And he can take his idiot cult followers with him too. If you don't want to live in America Glenny, please leave. People from all over the world come to America because they actually appreciate the concepts of freedom and equality. Why don't you try Siberia. You won't be missed here.

watchdog's picture

check it out;
http://www.cracked.com/blog/i-watch-glenn-bec...
This pasty jackass is just another example of republican't values, the values developed in the Gilded Age mentioned above.


When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-

quarzacc's picture
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I read an article on the Dailybeast.com stating how Beck was basically the holy grail of truth TV.
I guess when it comes to these types its truly blind love.
People in general need to learn history and apply it, thats where values come from.

jmmartin's picture

You just asked what kind of America does Glenn Beck want. That's an easy one: 300 million people with magic girdles and copies of the Book of Mormon. Beck just converted to the Church of LDS. He should have taken LSD.


"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez

itslmentry's picture

package their diatribes against all that has been hard-fought for and earned with those old-timey, colonial-looking book jackets. Bill Bennett and other did, and now Beck.

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