Nazis in the U.S. military: SPLC will ask Congress for action
In his "about me" section, "SoldatAMG" describes himself as a "Sergeant in USMC stationed at Camp Lejeune. I recently returned from my 3rd trip to Iraq. I fight every day to stem the tide of multicultturalism and to ensure that my children have a better world. SIEG HEIL!" -- Stars and Stripes
Why, it feels like only yesterday that every right-wing talker on the planet -- from Michael Savage to Greta Van Susteren -- was denouncing the Department of Homeland Security for supposedly "smearing our veterans" by issuing a bulletin for law-enforcement officers warning that right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis intended to recruit members of the military and returning veterans.
Well, we've already seen just how prescient the bulletin actually was -- after Richard Poplawski, Scott Roeder, and James Von Brunn all proved its point.
Now Stars and Stripes is reporting on just how far, indeed, neo-Nazis have infiltrated our military ranks:
It is Facebook for the fascist set, and the typical online profiles of its members reveal expected tastes.
Favorite book: “Mein Kampf.”
Favorite movie: the Nazi propaganda film “Triumph of the Will.”
Interests: “white women.”
Dislikes: “anyone who opposes the master race.”
But there’s one other thing that dozens of members of newsaxon.org, a white supremacist social networking website, have in common: They proudly identify themselves as active-duty members of the U.S. armed forces.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, the Montgomery, Ala.-based watchdog group that tracks extremist hate groups, has compiled a book containing the online user profiles of at least 40 newsaxon.org users who say they are serving in the military, in apparent violation of Pentagon regulations prohibiting racist extremism in the ranks.
The military has been shrugging this off. So the SPLC is going to take the matter up with Congress:
On Friday, the SPLC will present its findings to key members of Congress who chair the House and Senate committees overseeing the armed forces and urge them to pressure the Pentagon to crack down.
“In the wake of several high-profile murders by extremists of the radical right, we urge your committees to investigate the threat posed by racial extremists who may be serving in the military to ensure that our armed forces are not inadvertently training future domestic terrorists,” Morris Dees, SPLC co-founder and chief trial counsel, wrote to the legislators. “Evidence continues to mount that current Pentagon policies are inadequate to prevent racial extremists from joining and serving in the armed forces.”
Added Mark Potok, editor of the Intelligence Report, a magazine produced at the law center: “The Pentagon really has shrugged this off and refused to look at this in any serious way.”
We've been reporting on this trend for some time now, and have discussed especially the ramifications of this development.
As an FBI assessment made last year noted:
The prestige which the extremist movement bestows upon members with military experience grants them the potential for influence beyond their numbers. Most extremist groups have some members with military experience, and those with military experience often hold positions of authority within the groups to which they belong.
... Military experience—often regardless of its length or type—distinguishes one within the extremist movement. While those with military backgrounds constitute a small percentage of white supremacist extremists, FBI investigations indicate they frequently have higher profiles within the movement, including recruitment and leadership roles.
... New groups led or significantly populated by military veterans could very likely pursue more operationally minded agendas with greater tactical confidence. In addition, the military training veterans bring to the movement and their potential to pass this training on to others can increase the ability of lone offenders to carry out violence from the movement’s fringes.
America has really been fortunate for the past 30 years or so in that the vast majority of right-wing domestic terrorists -- from the militiamen who plotted to blow up a Sacramento propane facility (likely dead: about 3,000) to the cyanide-bomb maker to the would-be dirty-bomb builder -- have proved to be incompetent or catchable; in many cases, we've simply been lucky they were done in by fate. When there have been exceptions -- Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph particularly -- there has also been a military background.
In other words, our luck may be about to run out. And we can thank right-wing yammerers for having delayed and distracted us from dealing with it in a timely fashion -- before it happens.
And while they're at it, repeal DADT.
Purge the neo-nazis. Keep the gays.
From danger hussein: purge these nazis & sympathizers.
And while they're at it, repeal DADT.
From Miss Q: Purge the neo-nazis. Keep the gays.
You two pretty much took the words out of my mouth. The first thing I thought when I saw this item was "The military is so worried about gays, and doesn't worry about new-Nazis?! Eeew!"
teh gaze.
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Lovely examples of typical Christianity, aren't they?
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Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Modern republicanism, is the express train to Crazy Town!
http://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pFnOAJYRysc...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Anyone else think this is the wrong "face" to put on the American flag?
Neo-nazis are right wingers. They come from the radical left. Rush and O'Reily say so. Must be true.
Of course, if they were gay nazi soldiers, they'd be out already. Teh gay, that the Pentago takes seriously.
Something to solve the Gay and Nazi problem in our military:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K08akOt2kuo&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
..all gay? Aren't they in love with a "man" named Hitler?
They're all gay, maybe in the closet but gay!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
was a cheerleader. I wonder what they have in common.
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Hitler had one ball.
Silly me.
I didn't even know he could dance.
almost hijacked by fundies. The troops seem to have its share of gang and nazi elements. Heck, the only sane services left seem to be the Navy and the Coast Guard. Something about the fresh air from the open ocean, I guess...
My dad was former SAC, and I went once with him to the AF Academy for a ceremony... and honestly I think that the fact that Colorado Springs seemed to have one of the highest concentration of megachurches AND the AF Academy was no coincidence.
almost?
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Both the Army and the Marines have turned into cesspools because of this. My son is in the Marines, when they tried to tell him that participation in right-wing Christian evangelical services were mandatory, he resisted, but he's getting out because he can't stand the constant racism and hate that he lives surrounded with, and that's from the people who are supposed to be on his side.
He says the insults about Obama are constant, and those higher in the ranks are doing it too. They are indoctrinating the kids who join to be racist and hateful and incorporating it into their racist Christofacism.
His two friends who joined the Army have been told that Obama is not really the president, that they better buy guns because Obama will have repealed the Second Amendment by the time their overseas tours are over. Obama is also going to take away all of their VA benefits, charge them for their health care, (never mind that Bush was doing that), and pretty much any other evil you can think of.
These are young guys being fed non-stop propaganda by their leaders. It is no surprise that this would result in this.
But, hey, don't worry, at least those nasty gays will be thrown out!
You know, as awful as it is to see this hatefulness, at least its in the open now - the Right is showing who they really, truly are, and it's bad, really bad.
Now, time to stop pretending these are aberrations, they are not. This is who the Right is. If we don't stand up to this, shame on us.
Just imagine a Nazi in an American uniform on patrol in a country of non-whites - its a dangerous international incident looking for a place to happen.
a return of the Confederacy.
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Maybe the gangs and Nazi's will eliminate each other.
"Just imagine a Nazi in an American uniform on patrol in a country of non-whites - its a dangerous international incident looking for a place to happen."
It's called the entire Middle East Crusade, to be accurate.
can you imagine what would happen if there was ever a large-scale terrorist attack or natural disaster that put these guys on the multi-cultural streets of home?
exactly what the traitors on treason radio want - a dictatorship. Just like Suharto.
In World of Warcraft of all places I found a nazi "vet". I was talking toa dude the other night and he slipped in a few comments and I encouraged him and he went on a rant about the Jews and the "N"s and on and on.
bet that took the foam off your beer.
No but I challenged him to a duel, pwned him and told him he just got smacked by a Jew!
..in that Twilight Zone episode where the bigot ends up being chased by Nazis. Know the one?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Move that helicopter in just a little bit more!
..an object lesson but moving the 'copter, well OK.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
WoW is bad, m'kay.....
I'm Bad!
hee nab ;)
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r...
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
I don't give a toss.
*smiling*
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use the Sword of 1000 Truths?
Titansteel Destroyer
Sword of 1000 Truths
Noogies?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
When you can't understand Republican motives, look for hidden motives.
Oh, and they just got to sort this CIA stuff out too. They might be running around in there too.
They don't wear arm bands [yet] but you can identify them by their dark blue power suits and the color treated hair...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
These puny dicks would be squashed under the nazi jackboot with all the other peasants. Why would they want such a regime? God they're stupid.
There are also Latin gang members, and Black gang members ect... ect...
The U.S. military also "hires" alotta felons now too...
...I wouldnt be surprised if the are now accepting foreigners and illegal immigrants too...
...but hey, with wars like these that are so unpopular, ...scum of the earth will just have to do...
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They have been awarding "posthumous" citizenship to plenty of fallen hispanic soldiers which had foreign passports.
gang members from all walks of life join up for the "training"
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right?
just plain wrong...(and you know it)
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Mea Culpa...
and he wasn't a US citizen...he's still not...resident alien or somethin like that.
..the other night. There was a line of German soldiers for as far as you could see marching toward a POW camp. They all surrendered before they were engaged in battle. They would cross the bridges built by the engineers waving white flags. When faced with superior force, they always back down.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
en route to a suicide mission taking Omaha Beach, if they had known a couple of generations later nazi sympathizers would be wearing their very same uniform.
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This is what they were fighting for. As despicable as the neo-nazi is, we can't deny them "free speech". However, I think the military needs to "re-educate" or discharge these people for, well, not really buying into the program, if you catch my drift.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
for the right of nazis to join up and undermine everything they fought four.
They greatest generation were brave, not stupid ;-)
You can't be a nazi and swear allegiance to the US Republic AND its constitution. That is not something open for debate, ergo it does not fall under "freedom of expression."
to be a nazi is to be anti-American.
Period.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw4_xmUgo3w
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
They don't swear allegiance to the constitution. As Busch said, it's just a piece of paper.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
that Bush said that, does anyone have any form of proof? At least someone who actually heard him say it? The best I can find is that it was started by Doug Thompson who says he heard it from 3 guys who were in the meeting or had knowledge of what happened in it.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish...
Well I heard from 8327 people that were there or had knowledge of it who said he didn't say it. Its rumor and hearsay. If one person who can be confirmed to have been there states that he/she heard it said then I might believe it.
a list of these 40 freaks so that 'the family' (read story below in C&L)can recruit these assholes and put therm in power for the next 40 years!
SWELLLLL!
Cue the Kabuki....
makes as much sense as a KKK member named Tyronne.
a dude making 25k a year that votes republican makes as much sense as .......(fill in the blank!)
GODLESSAMERICA!
Cue the Kabuki....
He was a white hollywood actor.
... who are not Neo-Nazis have failed to condemn this. That is the biggest impediment to moving forward IMO. I suppose they could say they dont know about it - which is fully believable considering the lack of coverage in the so-called "liberal media."
Some outreach is in order to the remaining conservatives who still have their wits. ... wedgie time .....
"Conservatives" and "wits" in same sentence. OOOGAH! OOOGAH! All hands on deck!
As a long-time member of the SPLC (about 1982), I encourage C&Lers to check them out and donate to them if they can. They are one of the good guys in the fight to eliminate racism. They were instrumental in shutting down the Klan and some skinhead groups.
I think their overall strategy is probably one of the best around. Prosecute hate groups whenever possible and hit them with fines so large they have to disband because they end up bankrupt. On another track they fund some excellent tolerance materials for schools and provide them for free to any school that wants them.
A truly wonderful organization.
any idea if the SPLC is going to help this poor family who suffered from a violent hate based attack?
http://www.ohio.com/news/50172282.html
Obviously the police are unwilling to classify it as a hate crime. Perhaps the SPLC or other organization could help push for it?
If you hadn't screamed "GET OFF MY LAWN, YA BUNCH O' COONS!" at them in the first place, hillbilly-boy, they would have left you alone.
to disappoint you but it wasn't me. Beside it probably would of had a slightly different ending if it was, I tend to go armed. And with a group that large I would of been justified in shooting because of reasonable fear for my life and health.
Of course you "tend to go armed". Conservatives are scared of everything.
And since you didn't get past Grade 5, here's a tip: It's "would have", not "would of".
I'm not scared of everything, I just like being able to defend myself, my family and others.
Right after they decide what to do with DADT. Let’s synchronize our watches….now.
AMERIKKKA!
The culmination of noxin's dream.
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And speaking of W, isn't it time he be charged with War Crimes?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
The time has come for Busch to pay the piper!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Are you kiddin'?
They can't even get him to pay his bar-tab.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The way I see it, Obama supporters who want health care need to join the military, kick ass, ...and finish these "wars" that Obama is still working on. (Finish em' up and withdraw all the troops so we can start a healthcare program that we can afford)
If enough progressives joined up to kill the Afghani's Iraqi's and Pakistani's ...you all could "oust/remove all the racists from the military, ... AND! do Obama's bidding at the same time...
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be good little stormtroopers. Mmmm-hmmm.
me-oww!
This is something that Obama can use Colin Powell to fix.
As long as they're not GAY Nazis I guess it's okay.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Gay Nazis? That would be the Log Cabin Repuglicans.
Of course they have. They need all the warm not queer bodies they can get.
Aholes.
me-oww!
Who are you going to call?
What about all the Nazis in Congress?
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Yes, well they've been there too long already, so they gotta go.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and the investigations to reveal and discharge gay personnel from the Armed Forces has removed so many knowledgable andvaluable folk who were putting their lives on the line to protect us.
But there's no mechanism to remove far more dangerous, treasonous trained Armed Forces "moles" whose eventual goal is to use their Armed Forces training to re-enact Timothy McVeigh and the bombing in Oklahoma City?
Go for it, Southern Poverty Law Center -- I hope you reach the right people in Congress -- if you're dealing with Congressional supporters of these treasonous moles, you might find your request buried, or worse, branded as treasonous itself by experts at "projection".
The last thing we need is congress creating thought police or belief laws.
It is up to the military, its commanders and commander in chief to clean up their act. No ideology, except for the oath taken to protect and defend the constitution of the United States, has a place in military structure. Admission screening is the most important element of quality control of our military. Perhaps they need some LA cops to interpret tattoos. If multiple deployments result in lowering the bar, then change the war policy or enact a draft. With a draft at least war will be more intimately introduced to democracy, whether in the streets or at the polls.
of course, the Fundees will just keep telling themselves that this is liberal media lies -- enjoying their fun little email swaps of Obama as African Witch Doctor and thoroughly convinced that teh geighs will destroy the earth
We should stop out these rat bastards.
...need to enlist...
If more decent progressives would make themselves available to do Obama's bidding and join up...and go conquer the middle east already!!! (show conservatives how to "git er' done") and finish this war already.....!!!
then maybe we wouldn't have the "problems" associated with a military that is "desperate" for soldiers!!!!
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stop telling progressives what their 'duty' is. You seem to think it involves signing up to kill people. We got past that.
me-oww!
"go conquer the middle east"
Why?
Did the "middle east" try to conquer us?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
for Chimpster.
Obama wants to build a few bases and military installations in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
...apparently the green zone in Baghdad is all complete now but there are plans for more bases (Karachi and Kabul) from what I hear.
Obama did not reduce the pentagons budget at all this year, and also gave Chimpster all the war money he ever asked for.
p.s. answer to your question ape man is no. They did not try to conquer us.
Aww hell, and actually...(I dont even think they were responsible for 9/11)
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Just what Babs Bush wanted when Georgie was born, a return of the fascist, treasonous, Confederacy of old Dixie, not an incoherent cheerleading fairy boy son who couldn't count money or ride a horse, but a full fledged Uber superman, white guy drapped in swastlas... and saurkraut.
2008' a positive point in time, that will pit reason, against reasonableness.
Just hope your not in the wrong place at the wrong time. You can't stop unreasonable people from death and destruction. Only time can do that... We're at that point in time, make sure to get out the vote. Shalom ;)
PS. Thanks again David...
and Heather [ http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/r... ]
Study the symptoms not the virus...
ha, well now all these fucking jackasses all serve at the pleasure of a BLACK president. so,, yes, go on and make your power as white and ignorant as you want and stem that multicultural tide,, you already lost fools.
the problem is that, regardless of the race of their commander in chief, our tax dollars are being spent to give these monsters military training
apparently the army is "so desperate" that they are training nazi racists, but also
Thousands and thousands of "terrorists" have been trained by uncle sam for decades...especially from South America...(remember Manuel Noriega)?
did you ever hear of the "School of the Americas"? (google it)
any terrorist "worth their salt" has been in some country's military somewhere for a couple years. (gotta train somewhere) may as well get paid for it...
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"I hate these guys."
Talk about a contradiction of terms...'Nazis' in the 'U.S.' Military...no wonder some of our kids are growing up confused. America has truly become the 'Land of Confusion'.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
Of course the Pentagon isn't going to do anything about this. The military's sole purpose is to slaughter people and bring pain to people, and it's almost entirely people of color that it targets. What more appropriate people to have on your side than those whose ideology elevates eliminating black and brown people to a sacred mission? And people who think that way have been joining the military for years. As long as the US military remains what it is, it will continue to attract bloodthirsty white supremacists/neo-Nazis.
Same wingnut coin, other side.
For years now, beginning before Bush, but really ramped during the past 8 years, the military academies have been increasingly infiltrated by right-wing Christians. Chief among the academies is, no surprise, the Air Force Academy, conveniently located in Colorado Springs.
My nephew graduated from there 4 years ago and has personally attested to me that Fundamentalists control the "spiritual" wing of the Academy. And even worse, the peer pressure exerted on someone who doesn't buy into it can be intense..
I'm not equating Fundamentalists with Nazis. However, there are a number of conveniently overlapping themes that should be apparent.
There have been reports on this sort of thing going back to the 80s, when Reagan ballooned the military by shoveling money from social services and education into it while at the same time giving fundamentalist Christians political power (he was one himself). In addition to being the first president to give fundamentalist Christians political power, he was also notorious for turning a blind eye to right-wing, neo-Nazi, white supremacist activism while persecuting environmental activists and social justice activists. In other words, as with so many other damaging trends, the current wave of neo-Nazis and fundamentalist Christians gaining prominence began in the 80s because of Reagan.
I think we are making the same mistake that we made after 9/11 (i.e., attributing excessive credibility/power to people who have nothing to do with keeping the railroad running.)
Not that I'm not concerned, but domestic terrorism is a criminal act, not an America destroying event.
They are nothing and they'll be nothing if they pull this off, except executed.
Solution : Put these lunatics on the very front lines in the mountains and hills of Afghanistan .
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