O'Reilly and his friends get nasty -- and then tut-tut liberal nastiness
By David Neiwert Tuesday Apr 28, 2009 2:45pm
There's no blithering un-self-awareness quite like right-wing blithering un-self-awareness.
Especially when Bill O'Reilly's part of the program, as he was during The O'Reilly Factor last night. He opened with a scathing attack on the New York Times for its own scathing cartoon.
Somewhat hilariously, O'Reilly speculates wildly about the effects of the release of the photos of prisoners being tortured, saying it's "beyond question" that American servicemen and women abroad will be harmed because their publication will foment so much resentment -- even though, of course, he can produce no evidence to support that speculation at all.
Nonetheless, it's enough for O'Reilly to call the cartoon an "atrocity" and "garbage" and accuse the Times of "pushing a hateful, far-left agenda," while the heads of the Times, NBC, and other "far left" outfits are "doing an enormous amount of damage to this country" and are "haters."
Then he invites on Karl Rove to talk about that NYT cartoon, and Karl happily obliges by making the subsequent attack on NYT publisher Arthur Sulzberger as vicious and personal as he can:
O'Reilly: What did you think when you saw that cartoon in the New York Times yesterday of the Statue of Liberty with a whip? What did you think of that?
Rove: I thought Pinch Sulzberger was right to worry about why he had to sell his building and his stock is in the toilet, and I'm glad it is.
O'Reilly: But weren't you offended as an American? I mean, that is just the lowest!
Rove: Look look look, I'm from Texas! I've met this little Pinch Sulzberger. He is an elitist, effete snob, who thinks he knows better than the rest of America and has views that are distinctly outside the mainstream of what America's all about.
[Note to Karl: You're not from Texas, at least the way most Texans I know define being "from Texas". You're from Utah by way of Nevada. Big diff. But the tough-guy talk is duly noted, anyway. We're convinced. Really.]
Anyway, the comedy reached a real zenith later in the hour when BillO had that night's edition of the O'Falafel Loofah-Loving Harem on: Gretchen Carlson and Margaret Hoover. They set about decrying those nasty liberals thus:
Hoover: A lot of these people are degenerates from the 1960s. Like they didn't get the memo that the revolution is over, right? There's nothing to fight about anymore. They demonize people who they disagree with. And a lot of time you find them going after you personally when they can't make the argument with logic.
... O'Reilly: Look there's a difference between being an elitist -- Karl Rove at the top of the program said that was Sulzberger, he's an elitist, left-winger, knows better -- and being downright nasty mean. Nasty mean.
Hoover: You know why they do that? Because they can.
Yeah, I don't know where those hateful little elitist degenerates ever got that whole "nasty mean" thing either.
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why isn't rove in jail?
looks really nervous. Worried about those investigations Karl? Squeal like a pig fatboy.
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The cartoon is apt.
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who thinks he knows better than the rest of America
I thought Bushco was all about that kind of thinking? you know, going with yer gut and knowing what's best for America. It's not about being popular, etc ad nauseum....
when? link? please...
I'm looking for it. I saw it in our Korean (English) newspaper. I know I thought it was harmless and appropriate... but I'm not only a degenerate from the 60s, but quite possibly (still) a juvenile delinquent.
Just like most of us here. What do the kids in your classes think?
looking at that screen cap, I think I am sure where the initial vector for the porcine flu originated: Rove's filthy mouth.
start wearing a grey suit?
Rove calls Sulzberger an effete snob who thinks he knows better than the rest of America and has views that are distinctly outside the mainstream? You can't make this shit up!
EXACTLY!
Ain't that the truth!
I wonder when these great, caring, humanitarian non-elitist rich white country clubbers, will teach us hate filled liberals how to love instead. Just like the Wall Street crowd that cares so much about the common man.
How stupid do they think people are? Oh that's right, they are on Fox.
Never mind.
Such a waste of beautiful irony.
He is an elitist, effete snob, who thinks he knows better than the rest of America and has views that are distinctly outside the mainstream of what America's all about.
Sounds like Rove, talking about himself.
opinion carry any weight? Thanks to him and his butt-buddy shrub, the repugnicant party has been decimated. As a liberal, I say, thanks, lumpy. But why does Orally use him as an expert? He reminds me of former Colts head coach Ron Meyer. Never had a winning record, but somehow was always on ESPN or some pre-game show as an "expert" analyst.
Typical Rove tactic. Cast your own weaknesses on your opponent.
nor the only conservative who has operated via constant projection. Not by a long shot.
Rove is pure projection. His accusations are really confessions. I'm pretty sure this is classic behavior of the mentally messed up.
e.g.- and sizeist to boot
"He is an elitist, effete snob, who thinks he knows better than the rest of America and has views that are distinctly outside the mainstream of what America's all about.
Sounds like Rove, talking about himself."
That's Karl Rove 101. Falsely accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of. Most Americans are on to his game which was reflected at the voting booth in 2004 and 2008. It's really just tiresome at this point.
When I look back on it all, I wonder if Karl "Duke" Rove talked to me at the Austin dancehall because he knew who I was or because he thought I was cute? How about it, Dukie? Do you have an answer for me?
think of rape and genocide.
We already know what they think of rape and genocide. In matters of rape: “As long as it’s inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it”; there is no such thing as marital rape; and the life of a fetus, even the product of rape is more important than the health and well-being of the mother, (imagine being forced by the state to experience the pain of labor after having endured the nightmare of rape). As for genocide, they don't use the term unless it serves their own political ends and in matters of atrocities committed by putative allies are willing to look the other way and find excuses. (They tried to shift the blame for Halabjah from Saddam Hussein to the Iranians even while American military personnel were taking notes on the tactical considerations and overall effectiveness of Saddam's use of chemical weaponry)
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I wager pretty close to none. According to these guys, it's not the torture itself that's done damage to this country. But cartoons! What maroons!
What these two compete Faux morons are wetting their panties over is that people with a brain aren't listening to their puke anymore and their sick 17th century party of hate is quickly dying, by their own hands.
O'Reilly and Rove are wrong in their assumption that Americans agree with them and the last election proved that. Try as they may, O'Reilly and Rove could not get the voters to see things their way. That the majority vote for Obama is something that these 2 morons just can't handle. Their brand of politics and analysis has been rejected. Next!
Members of the Texas GOP living in Mexico (because the booze is cheap and they are mostly all drunken sots) are now saying that Swine Flu has entered the USA because Obama hasn't bothered to close the border and is still letting in illegal aliens.
Funny, Europeans bringing the Flu back to the old continent are NOT illegal aliens. They're citizens of the EU.
I'm so glad we don't have to live with the Texas GOP over here in Italy. It's just marvelous that those "Patriots" will never be able to obtain the documents necessary to live in the EU and must live in dirty Mexico instead!
Who the hell is Margaret Hoover?!
Fox News, Murdoch, and his whole crew are just beyond words.
You know, if you pay someone enough money, they will say that dog poo is yummy. Enter Margaret Hoover? I mean, where do they find these morons?
Is this ditz really the same one who's the great-granddaughter of former President Herbert Hoover?
that would make her on expert on what? Boy, this crap is tedious.
They would exhume someone and place them as an expert, they really don't care who they bring on, as long as they are willing to regurg the party lines/talking points.
very thing he claims to hate. O'Reilly is a mean, nasty and hateful hypocrite.
..misogynist, stupid, pathetic and immoral.
I guess "fair" means only saying what one wants to hear. It's unfair, then, to be critical. A$$hole.
Margaret Hoover was born in 1977. She graduated 8 years ago in Spanish Language Literature and now I have to listen this child try and expertise to me about the 1960s?!?!
You know someone told her to say that. These people are brainwashed. It just goes to show you how dangerous ignorance is and how it is so important to be vigilant about our democracy, lest it fall again into the hands of the uninformed.
Graduated in Spanish lit from a 3rd rate college, the great granddaughter of the worst president of the XX century... engaged to a Giuliani speech writer.
I hope she gets plenty of airtime, after all... she is so "smart" we all must hear what she has to say. Right?
I weep for this country. Anyone related to Hoover should have had the decency of shut the f*ck up. Alas, this is what happens when you "move forward, let's not look or dwell into the past." All the vermin's offspring regroups and waits until it is their turn to f*ck us up.
Enough, seriously, enough. Someone put a cork on Miss Hoover already.
the sons (or great-granddaughters. However, getting married to a Giuliani speechwriter displays a singular lack of common sense. I mean, they pay someone to put those nasty, hypocritical words in his mouth?
She's clearly a maroon.
like this lady, need to not be visited by the sins of that very same great-grandfather... but actually have the sins move in permanently and bring in their in-laws their 10 kids, and cujo the family pet.
Giving the benefit of the doubt regarding family sins, only works for those who ave proactively renounced said crimes.
To Margie Hoover...
Get yourself a BA in Political Science or Sociology, then come back and try to talk to me about socio-political topics.
I got an Associate in Business, and a Bachelor in Interdisciplinary Studies--where I majored in Political Science and International Relations--and minored in Arts and Humanities, followed by an Associate in Paralegal Studies, after I was Honorably Discharged from the US Air Force, where I held a Top Secret Clearance.
I make nine bucks and change an hour now.
as you well know, are skewed. In a just world you would be rewarded for your brilliance and Ms. Hoover (wet-behind-the-ears as she is) would be relegated to the dung heap wherein she clearly belongs.
I love how it's not the people who committed torture in our names, it's the people who have a problem with the criminals who commited the crime.
I listened to him babble for about 2 minutes. It felt like an eternity. Who could listen to that crap?
And what do George Soros, Anthony Romero, and Jeffrey Zucker have to do with a cartoon in the NYT?
I think he just makes these segments up with a soundboard.
Let's give it a shot: "Liberal, New York, hate America, mean-spirited, Olbermann, elitist, 1960 radical, French, offended."
Did I come close? I kind of stopped listening halfway through, so that might be an exact quote.
It was. I believe it was GOP bullshit talking point #225.
Bullshit GOP talking point #225 ????? Which day was that ?
I did a google search, and it agreed with my tally: GOP bullshit talking point #225 happened on the second week of Reagan's mandate. Placing it circa 1981.
I believe that there have been 2 more significant digits added to the GOP bullshit talking point counter in order to encapsulate the 8 years of Bush.
Let me see here... (flipping pages of the manual)... uh 217, 219, 222, uh 225! Yup there it is,: (Let me quote) "Liberal, New York, hate America, mean-spirited, Olbermann, elitist, 1960 radical, French, offended." Right out of the book. Figures. They can't do anything on their own can they?
It's just so painfull to listen to such an ignorant fool.
Pre-inoculated? I guess that explains why pigs haven't been falling ill. LOL must be the Summer of our Discontent coming on.
Rove: Look look look, I'm from Texas! I am an elitist, effete snob, who thinks he knows better than the rest of America and has views that are distinctly outside the mainstream of what America's all about.
because he's attracted to that whip and his falafel interests. That combo is causing a stirring in his loins.
Bonus to Billy for again mentioning Soros. Someone should keep count.
Dear Mr. William 'Liely,
Since the US tortured, the cartoon is apt. Apt i tell's ya!
I like the way Turd had to throw in the line about "outside the American mainstream".
This coming from a guy who promised decades of conservative Republican rule that lasted 8 years and now has just 21% of Americans identifying themselves as Republicans.
Guess what, guys? You LOST. Get over it!
Oh shit, I thought it was 23% (see below). Maybe they lost a few in that few hours?
Just today a friend told me that FOX and the whole crew were getting desperate. He said there will be a lot of Fox viewers or wingnuts who will defect as soon as they start coming after the Jews (more overtly than they already do) and they are stating to get crazy about the Jews now. Could that 23% (the amount of people who will admit that they are Republican) get any smaller?
the Jews"? I'd like to see some proof. I wouldn't put it past them, but considering Rupert lives and works in a city and industry littered with billionaire Jews, it strikes me as unlikely. Also, I've always thought Rupert's racism was of the "brown and poor" variety.
Someone did a picture of Superman sitting on a toilet seat shooting up with steroids. The tagline said "Truth, Justice and the American Way?"
I remember that it caused a lot of controversy at the time with opeople saying it was unamerican. The Artist was trying to bring light on a taboo subject at the time (steroid abuse) and used an image well known and guarenteed to shock. My view is hte same has been done this time.
I'm pretty sure they are just repelled by their own thoughts and actions when they look at the cartoon, and they project back to the messanger.
O' Reilly The Magnificent!
"And now ladies and gentlemen, I will make appear two women, neither who have any expertise or knowledge whatsoever, and before your very eyes, I will have them pull an opinion out of my ...!
Drum roll please… Nothing up my sleeves...
‘A lot of these people are degenerates from the 1960s’
Dah dah!!!! Thank you, thank you."
The more Bill O'Reilly talks the better for this country. I think he and Limbaugh are driving more and more people away from the Republican party.
It is a good thing this guy and Limbaugh run their mouth.
O'Reilly may have big ratings, but almost all of his views and most of Fox's in general are older views +60s. O'Reilly and Fox are back firing for the Republicans. They make the party more radically right and drive moderates away.
Don't lose sight of the fact that a very large percentage of his viewers only watch to see the train wreck or for the comedic aspect of the show. I suspect that less than 50% of the people who are under 65 years old agree with the asshole.
I don't know anyone with a brain that watches television regularly.
Our television broke some years ago and we bought a new one that was HD ready, needless to say, the things that we can receive we won't watch and I refuse to subscribe to cable. The people that I know that regularly watch O'Reilly are quite old and perhaps a tad senile demented. Seriously, I don't know anyone under 60 that watches this shit and those are the people that watch lots of TV, in many cases that's all they do.
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WTF was Fonzie doing there?
...was without a doubt the funniest thing I've seen all week.
"I've met this little Pinch Sulzberger. He is an elitist, effete snob,"
said the pudgy, Pillsbury dough boy look alike.
Love It
I never click on the billo clips here but did this time. I made it 23 seconds. I guess I don't suffer fools gladly. I guess this is why I don't watch the JackAss movies either. (But Reno 911, now that's some funny shit!)
They should team up for a new cop show..
Flake and the Fatman
I only come here for the ysbaddaden youtube links. He needs to get hired by Google's "Feeling lucky" button.
If the Republicans were smart, which of course they aren't, they'd find a way to silence Karl Rove. He's right up there with Cheney in terms of popularity. The ironic thing is that Rove is largely to blame for the very sad state of the Republican Party. Perhaps that's why he feels so compelled to continue running his mouth in public. Most Americans with any brains are on to him by now.
The exact same thing can be said about Cheney.
The other part is he is getting paid to run his mouth. I'm sure he has plenty of dough, but other than blackmailing former employers and anybody else he's had a chance to get some dirt on, he probably needs the gig. Now that the Dems are running things he needs to account for income somehow.
Also, I haven't seen the cartoon. Did the Statue of Liberty have 'gw's' head on it?
Remember about a year ago, when the whole world-- the American right in particular-- stared with mouths agape at the Islamic fundamentalist nut-jobs who wanted to kill people for printing cartoons they didn't like?
Here's their Western mirror image; Fox News.
My first thoughts as well.
billo and rove could form a daisychain,
except you would have to pry their sucking
lips off their own asses.
is how completely interchangeable their elected reps seem to be. Sure Dems like to call the Reps "rightwing neocon nutbars" but they sure do welcome these same nutbars in with open arms when they decide to defect to the other party, now don't they? And amazingly, these elected reps don't ever seem to change their voting at all. Now THAT is funny!
to turn a GOP-centric topic into a Dem bashing fest.
Your post has nothing of substance to add regarding the star of this thread: Rove.
Although I am sure Mr. Obama is somehow responsible for Rove's and Mr. O'really's actions. Or at least, you will remind us how there is "no difference."
Don't you guys have stuff to keep you occupied up in the great white North?
I don't think he does. The
BushObamaBushObamaBush (it is so easy to get them mixed up because they are all the same... aren't they?)economic nightmare has the poor guy unemployed (for this I truly feel sorry for him). I think he has too much time on his hands.you really do generalize a lot, don't you? I don't think anyone here that actually follows politics, and many of us do, expect any great things from Specter. However, we are really enjoying watching the Repubs twist in the wind over this - that's much more delicious than Specter adding a "D" after his name.
Since you are such a fan of generalization and stereotypes, I'm going to assume that you are wearing a flannel shirt and a hat with ear flaps, that you are overweight, that you club baby seals and you really want to be an American because the US is so much cooler than Canada? Did I miss anything?
These guys, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. get paid a shitload of money to do what they do. As far as I can see, they aren't going off air anytime soon. In fact, a Democrat Whitehouse spells $$boomtime$$ for them. They don't believe in half the shit they say, it's all pre-designed to aggravate a target market. They are on to something good and will stick to it because it lines their accounts with numbers that their loyal viewers can only dream of.
Like Olbermann said on Real Time, Murdoch is a salesman. These wanker underlings are just moving the stock.
Whether they actually believe their own shit? I'm starting to wonder if these guys are just really good method actors.
As for Rove, he's just desperately trying to remain relevant as his dream of a "permanent Republican majority" morphed into a nightmare (for him) of a Democratic White House with a very real possibility of a filibuster-proof Democratic Senate.
...just keep listening to this idiot, his blond bimbos and mr. tejas himself, karl rove. They are so frustrated with losing all power, and their base is dying off a few each day as the geriatrics are turning back to dust.
Tough shit old bor. What goes around comes around, and your nonsense and twisted hate spew is slowing losing grip on the feeble minded audience that religiously tune in to you and the other fruit cakes on your propaganda network.
It's funny to watch, if you can put up with the constant whining.
to blame others for damaging the country by publishing a goddam cartoon when the people you promoted for 8 years did just that. They were the a$$holes who just had to torture, had to eavesdrop, had to give their buddies huge tax breaks, had to look the other way while Wall street robbed us blind, had to invade a country that was not a threat, on and on ad nauseum.
These people know no shame and if I ever want to see a glaring example of hypocrisy in the extreme, this video tells it all.
No dignity...
No honor...
They are nothing but hollow empty shells of people.
BillO and Rover. The only thing missing is Limburger.
if you want to send an e-mail to O'Reilly, you have to buy a "membership" first.
All I can hope is this kind of crazy shit shrinks the GOP to single digits.
I still think the dye is seeping into their brains.
Whenever I watch Rove and actually most talking heads on Fox News, I have the "Are You Fucking Kidding Me?!?!?!" look permanently on my face.
Fox is really pushing this whole "Soros is an evil mastermind" meme. Did Fox refer to the left as going on a jihad? There are so many things wrong with what was stated in this clip. I had to stop it 3 or 4 times because I couldn't take the straight onslaught of bullshit for 5 minutes. I don't know what makes me angrier: O'Reilly's defense of torture or having Rove on teevee and not in PRISON! And, what was the deal with the "East Coast v. West Coast" thing at the end? We aren't talking about Tupac and Biggie Smalls here.
This is what we did in 3rd grade - if you get in trouble, it's not your fault for actually doing the thing, it's completely the fault of the person who told on you.
If there are reprisals for releasing info on things we should not have done, maybe the best solution was to have not done the bad things in the first place.
Hoover: "...They demonize people who they disagree with. And a lot of time you find them going after you personally when they can't make the argument with logic."
When Margaret's birthday comes around, somebody get this woman a mirror. Get one for BillO and Rover too.
For Dildo Reilly and KKKarl Rove, "far left" begins slightly right of Eugene McCarthy.
Why is it okay to have cartoons bashing Mohammed, to which these numbnuts say "it's only a cartoon", and when it's something they disagree with, they can't through enough diapers?
I'm not so certain whether or not that video clip was a comedy sketch or not. I mean, that is exactly what we were saying all those years when falafel boy, turd blossom & the two ditzy blondes were in the position of power. You know, that position of power that we now hold because they were unable to control their greed.
Shill O is hiding behind the flag like a typical Republican trying to cover their own asses. America was a torture nation....under Bush. A Democratic president is trying to repair that image. A Republican ran America into the ground. Republicans are the America haters. They run the country into the ground then want to succeed when elections don't go their way (or when they can't steal them).
Rove doesn't hate America, he's totally indifferent to America. America for him is a tool he can use to divide and manipulate for his own political gain. Rove still trying to divide America between Texas/southerners and northeastern Americans. He's one Texas snake in the grass. No wonder a record low of Americans, 21%,associate themselves with the Party of Bill O, Rove, Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Malkin, Ingraham, DeLay, Cheney and Duke. What a nasty vile sleazy bunch of conservative slags, hags, haters and political opportunists. Keeping these people front and center is the best thing that can happen for the Democratic Party.
rove is being subbed in the jailhouse by scooter libby
The best part is the only guests O'Rielly can find bounce his blather off of is Unindicted Co-Conspirator Rove and two blonde ditz bimbos, Margeret Hoover (named that because what sucks better than a Hoover?) and Gretchen ("I know Nutzing") Carlson.
Pathetic.
Turd blossoms stench is definitely rubbing off on O'Lielly and his other male lovers on Faux Noise.
and Karl Rove is a pig-man who aptly now has his own flu virus. I'm so thankful someone else watches this crap on TV so I don't have to.
I can think of no two sorrier slobs than pig-man karl and angry oreally who have to hate their way through every single day to the Times, NBC and anyone else who has a differing viewpoint than theirs.
GAG, I need to throw up just thinking about them.
so it's not the actual torture that "will foment so much resentment" but the release of photos of the torture. I'm pretty sure that in civilized countries that brainfart would get O'Reilly the mental health care he so despertly needs.
Bin Laden had these tapes years ago ,, using them for a recruiting tool.. Why do you believe his numbers are over 10 times what it was before Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq and torture..
Why does Fox ?news? media being allowed to be called a news media instead of a corporate-republican propaganda machine..
We need a recall of elected officials when they have turn criminal no matter what position they hold... This only include the Supreme Court Judges..
Looks as if these criminals are patriotic when it comes to killing others for their wealth , but run like h... before they will service on the front line..
Just about every d... republican pushing this war and criminal activities by our country have fought to keep from serving in the military action..
Republicans have done more to destroy this county in the past 8 plus years then the terrorist could dream of..
Don't Mess With Texas. It's Already Messed Up Enough.
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