Powell's critique of Republicans really sticks in Hannity's craw
By David Neiwert Thursday May 07, 2009 8:00am
Colin Powell's recent remarks thumping on Republicans for wandering off into the wilderness under the guidance of people like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter -- not to mention Karl Rove and Sean Hannity -- really seem to have upset at least Limbaugh and Hannity.
Limbaugh shot back by telling Powell to go join the Democrats. (And you wouldn't blame Powell if he took the defacto head of the conservative movement up on the invitation.)
Now, just for the record, here's what Powell actually said:
Powell said the GOP is "getting smaller and smaller" and "that's not good for the nation." He also said he hopes that emerging GOP leaders, such as House Minority Whip Cantor, will not keep repeating mantras of the far right.
"The Republican Party is in deep trouble," Powell told corporate security executives at a conference in Washington sponsored by Fortify Software Inc. The party must realize that the country has changed, he said. "Americans do want to pay taxes for services," he said. "Americans are looking for more government in their life, not less."
...He blasted radio commentator Rush Limbaugh, saying he does not believe that Limbaugh or conservative icon Ann Coulter serve the party well. He said the party lacks a "positive" spokesperson. "I think what Rush does as an entertainer diminishes the party and intrudes or inserts into our public life a kind of nastiness that we would be better to do without," Powell said.
He also said that Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, McCain's running mate last year, is "a very accomplished person" but became "a very polarizing figure." He said the polarization was created by Palin's advisers.
Powell said he does not want Republicans to turn into Democrats but rather to build a vibrant party.
Hannity responded by devoting the better part of his Fox News show last night to the subject. First he had on Karl Rove to talk about it, which of course meant we got a Rove Moment: When he informed us that Powell's remarks about the toxic value of Limbaugh's hatemongering amounted to trying to silence Limbaugh. Because exercising your free-speech rights actually becomes censorship and suppression if you happen to say anything unpleasant about Republicans, no matter how truthful.
This, coming from the guy who never hesitated to suggest that Democrats were treasonous for criticizing George W. Bush's handling of the Iraq war. Or anything else.
Then Hannity brought on famous non-American Mark Steyn to further agree with him that the problem with Republicans is that they aren't conservative enough. (We like this advice, because it is a sure loser for the GOP.)
In any event, these exchanges produced two classic moments from Hannity of the pure, distilled Planet Wingnuttia worldview. (It's always fascinating, because it's such an alien world from the one the rest of us live in, and it has a certain amusement value as well.)
Hannity [to Rove]: He attacks Rush Limbaugh, and we'll get into that in just a second here. And I'm sitting back and he talked about the nastiness of Rush on the radio, which I don't hear, ever.
[...]
Hannity [to Steyn]: Can you name one area now where Republicans are more conservative than they were when Reagan was president? Because I can't.
Um, the hard part is figuring out where to start. There are so many to choose from.
Let's try just a few:
-- Torture.
-- Immigration.
-- Indulging in 'nation-building' wars.
-- And most of all, civility. Say what you will about Reagan, he was always a civil man. You can't say that about the American Right of 2009 -- and particularly not its leader, Rush Limbaugh.
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Goes to show you how far gone we are as a country when Shannity get's that kind of money.
...any nastiness in Boss Hogg Limbaugh's tirades?? Gee, what a shock.
This whole clip is a crock of shit.
can not hold a candle to the respect for a MAN of Powell's , stature...These boys are little minded , uneducated, venal, vile, lying, rabid fools!!!
Powell knowingly, knowingly, sold the nation on the need for a war in Iraq.
How many died because of his absolute lack of moral courage and his obedience to the fuhrer.
I finished Dave's new book last night and highly recommend it to any readers visiting C & L. The Brief history of eliminationism and the Ongoing legacy sections are particularly good. If I had the funds to do so I'd buy a box of his books and pass them out to anyone interested in this bit of American history.
Dont tell me how it ends, I'm still reading it.
repubs have morphed into the treason party.
Same 20% scum that enjoyed the fruits of General Washington without ever putting their ass on the line.
Turncoats,traitors and treason in the form of lawless torture.
General Washington was an admitted fruit tree killer.
These people are mentally sick, end of story.
The 20% of people who are constantly exposed to psychopaths like Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, Rove, and basically all of Fixed Noise and AM talk radio on a near 24/7 basis have become psychically warped by the constant exposure to right-wing propaganda.
I really think it's a form of brainwashing at work...the constant repeating of simple, easy-to-remember and easy-to-regurgitate talking points, the endless demonization of "the Other", etc.
It's a frightening phenomenon which probably existed in Nazi Germany as well. Josef Goebbels only wishes he could have been able to disseminate his rank philosophy with the brutal efficiency afforded the right-wing today.
It's called George Orwell's "1984"
Yes, that too, for sure.
I come across right-wingers both on the internet and in real life, and it's bizarre to witness how they can just robotically spew out, on command, everything they've heard on Fox News.
I watch Fox just to see what the enemy is up to, and almost without fail, whatever theme of the day on Fox gets added right into their little lexicon of right-wing talking points by the next day, like they're the Borg or something.
They lack something that the rest of us take for granted: independant thought.
Basically they are brainwashed sheep.
If these people actually believe their horse-shit, or if they're just really good method actors who found a way to rake in some big bucks.
I mean some of this stuff they spew is so void any logic and sanity that is just boarders on self-parody. Look at Michelle Malkin, there is no way to do a parody of her, you do a parody of her and you'll be behaving like a normal person. She is the parody, and the same could be said for most of these people.
The problem is, while they may not believe their own crap, there are thousands of under-educated people that will. Case in point, that guy who shot those cops a few months back because Beck convinced him Obama was out to get his guns.
Hard to say whether or not they're true believers or Elmer Gantry-types. Either way, the end effect is the same:
Some unhinged nut will finally hit the boiling point and gun down a bunch of innocent people, or blow up a Federal building 'cuz Obama's gonna raise the top marginal rate from 36 to 39.6%
Sad, sad, sad.
These "leaders" of the Regressive party are just doing what they do best: indulging in massive self-delusion, and trying to con everyone else that it's all hunky dory in America, thanks to their resolute vision. Let them keep right on digging.
It's hilarious seeing these bonzos talking like they want to start an armed revolution against a president who has been in office just over 100 days.
And it's all the more ironic since this punk and others like him were calling Democrats and liberals traitors and terrorist simpathizers for challenging the Bush regime.
tactics of the radical 60's left although I think the 60's left had more balls and audacity because they actually turned their words into action.
The right just basically sits around glued to the tube or radio nodding at everything that comes out of Rush or Hannity's mouth.
Then on occasion some loser trying to be somebody goes out and shoots up something.
they did all gather to make 'tea' a few weeks ago, no?
national guard to quell the riots . . .
...their tea-bag parties would have had half the number.
What did they get?....a couple thousand?....a hundred thousand?...across THE WHOLE NATION? Wow...what a "movement.
And none of them could articulate what they were bitching/demonstrating for.....except lower taxes.
Nation of morons!
Race plays a HUGE part in all of this.
Can you REALLY see the right-wing throwing such an immature, unhinged hissy fit had Hillary won?
I know that the hatred for all things Clinton among Republicans is legendary, but the fact that our current President has a year-round tan REALLY chafes some of these bozos.
Not all, mind you, but a damned good percentage. They simply CANNOT stand the fact that they're being led by "one of those" people. It may even be subconscious, but it's there, for sure.
Actually I can see them throwing a hissy fit if Hillary won. In fact, I think that was their whole plan all along and why Rush worked so hard to get her elected.
My favorite line:
Uh, no. The polarization was caused by Palin's whacked out, extreme right, secessionist views.
Oh, they would have for sure, but the unhinged, vicious quality of it with respect to Obama is something unique, I think.
They don't even know WHAT they're angry about, but Beck and Rush and BillO and Insannity tell them they're mad, so goddamnit, they're gonna be mad too!
..........black-skinned people. Yes, it is racism, pure, simple, retarded, clean-cut, American pie racism. 'Those People' need only be the water-carriers for the Oligarchy, but still 'one of those people'. Powell was one of 'those people' who was only supposed to carry the water, and keep his MOUTH shut!!! He'd be dead in the south, and Cheney still has him on his 'list' GAG!
..........black-skinned people. Yes, it is racism, pure, simple, retarded, clean-cut, American pie racism. 'Those People' need only be the water-carriers for the Oligarchy, but still 'one of those people'. Powell was one of 'those people' who was only supposed to carry the water, and keep his MOUTH shut!!! He'd be dead in the south, and Cheney still has him on his 'list' GAG!
...to criticize the conservative media...it just is.
You don't trust us? How dare you question our integrity and honesty!
Shut up and obey your corporate masters, dog!
/snark
Powell will be the first Republican to criticize Rush and NOT turn around and kiss his ass the next day. Powell has backbone and principals. It is just too bad the Rethugs used his credibility to sell there bogus war rationals.
powell lost his credibility when he presented cartoons before the un and made believe they demonstrated wmd's
Haven't you ever wondered how and why Powell rose through the ranks to become Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?
Most people over 40 are generally familiar with the events surrounding the My Lai massacre. In 1968, a platoon of soldiers wiped out an entire Vietnamese village. While initial reports described the episode as a "fierce fire fight" resulting in the deaths of "128 Communists [during] a bloody day-long battle," it was later revealed that U.S. infantrymen had murdered over 300 villagers, including babies, and that there was no Vietcong opposition. The events at My Lai and elsewhere only came to light after several American soldiers, including Tom Glen, criticized the described the state of American-Vietnamese relations in writing to U.S. government officials. The Army's response? Send then-Major Colin Powell to investigate.
The results of Powell's investigation were predictable. In a whitewash of epic proportions, Powell reported "that relations between American soldiers and the Vietnamese people [were] excellent." Powell also denied allegations of torture by U.S. infantrymen and reported that any cases of "mistreatment of civilians and POWs" were "isolated." Powell thereafter added insult to injury by blaming Glen for not including more specifics in his missive notwithstanding the fact that Glen refused to meet with him. Powell's whitewash was later exposed by another U.S. serviceman, Ron Ridenhour, who compiled information concerning My Lai and forwarded it to the Army Inspector General. A subsquent investigation resulted in the prosecution and conviction of the platoon leader at My Lai, Lt. William Calley.
In May 2004, then-Secretary of State Powell brushed off questions about his role in the cover-up of the My Lai massacre, stating during a Larry King interview that "I was in a unit that was responsible for My Lai. I got there after My Lai happened. So, in war, these sorts of horrible things happen every now and again, but they are still to be deplored."
Powell is hardly a paragon of integrity.
...if Hannity is lying to his gullible audience or really believes this:
"Hannity [to Steyn]: Can you name one area now where Republicans are more conservative than they were when Reagan was president? Because I can't."
If he is lying then that is one thing, he is a pure propagandist, but if he is not and he believes what he is saying that is something else altogether. If he really and truly believes what he said then we have someone who can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy, fact and fiction, and this person is basically mentally ill. And or he has an authoritarian personality and is so submissive to the leaders of his movement and what they tell him that he will believe anything no matter what fact is presented to him that contradicts what he is told. Either way, he is a truly scary individual.
"Hannity [to Steyn]: Can you name one area now where Republicans are more conservative than they were when Reagan was president? Because I can't."
that's too funny, this party is so far to the right of reagan they're actually fascist
btw
reagan RAISED taxes not lowered them and he raised them for 6 of his 8 years, more then any peacetime president before him
Reagan cut taxes first, then had to back track when he realized he couldn't afford to run the government anymore.
and he raised taxes more then any peacetime president before him
however in that he redistributed the tax burden even more toward the middle class then they were already burdened
But doesn't that make him a paragon of the fair tax crowd?
It's not raising taxes if the top bracket doesn't feel the pinch.
The Republican view of what actually happened in the '80s is nothing but a fairy tale.
Reagan barely cut spending, blew up the debt to unprecendented levels, and walked back most of his most egregious tax cuts after he practically bankrupted the federal government.
So it seems to me that maybe Hannity is right, the Republican party isn't any more conservative than under Reagan. They're just more resistant to common sense corrective action.
They're more resistant to dislodging their craniums from their rectal canals, that's for sure.
Lets not forget ronnies' deregulating savings and loans which led to the savings and loan debacle of the 80's . 500 billion dollars worth of sebt was absorbed by the american people and government. Those rascally repubs. So little has changed
anyone else think rush and rove look like twins?
to me the resemblance is striking, not to mention those two are the primary reasons the republican party continues to melt, faster then the wicked witch after being drenched with water
All fat white men look alike.
I'm a fat white man and I look nothing like rove or rush
however not only do they both look like twins they also look like the offspring of cheney
no kidding
anyone do a chromo test on these three?
Where have we heard that before?
... the classic Star Trek episode, "And The Children Shall Lead ..." in which the children are led astray by a malevolent being called the Gorgon, who preys on fear.
Once Kirk and the others conquer their irrational fears, they are able to reach out to the children. The Gorgon (played by attorney Melvin Belli) is stripped of his benign disguise and shown to be a corpulent, disfigured being, his face covered with sores and pustules.
away, far to see / Friendly angel, come to me."
I've been reminded of ST:TNG lately, the Picard torture two parter where the Cardassian interregator tries to get Picard to say there are three lights above him when there are really four. That's what the right has become: demanding that people say there are three lights instead of four so that they control them.
Where Uhulu and the character played by Dennis Miller refuse to bunk in the crew quarters with George Takei.
Wasn't every bad guy/alien/computer/energy being in the original ST named Gorgon?
Actually if you picture them with little sailor's outfits they look REMARKABLY like Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
Part of a duty of any officer is to analyze all the strategic angles of a problem before any attack. Powell has realized the Neo-cons are the problem and they are not the party Dwight Eisenhower led to the presidency in 1952. They are whining little bigots and apparently, buying into their lies about the WMD's finally woke him up. I still won't forgive him; he should have resigned in protest, but the deception was so montstrous. He forgot the most important rule of war -- the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is laughable that all these Faux Noise liars are nothing but crybaby, bedwetting losers, that just can't handle the truth.
Why does Faux Noise HATE America so damn much??
for them.
The King of Hate Hannity uses the bully pulpit of his shitty show to express a daily sick malice towards Obama. This loser is disturbingly predictable.
When the GOP talking heads can't take even some positive criticism from a respected guy like Powell, they truly have no hope of recapturing moderate voters.
... lend an air of credibility to the Bush Provisional Authority.
When we had the downed spy plane in China, Powell attempted to solve things diplomatically. Bush shot his mouth off, closing off avenues by insisting we'd done nothing wrong, would not apologize, and gimme back my plane! Waaaaaah! Waaaaaah!
Whereupon my estimation was that we'd have a domestic terrorist attack within six months (off by three, unless you count the truck driver who crashed into the California State Capitol) and be at war within the year.
These are Republicans. This new era of neocons and fear mongers should form their own party instead of corrupting a successful brand. It's like NAMBLA taking over Disney.
Reagan supported torture and death squads in El Salvador and Guatemala with military advisors and CIA a plenty hanging out down there. Even if the Americans weren't doing it themselves, one can hardly say that Reagan did not support the human rights abuses going on down there.
Indeed.
The fact that murderers like John Negroponte and Elliot Abrams were able to get senior positions in the Bush Administration with BARELY a peep registered on Capital Hill really shows the near-total corruption of our government in BOTH parties.
I mean, my God, Negroponte was hardly even asked any questions about his organizing DEATH SQUADS during his confirmation hearings.
The hard part is trying to keep your lunch down while listening or looking at these disgusting blobs of human-like excrement.
apparently
... we all develop a sense for what is right and wrong, a concept of morals/ethics, and a means of detecting b.s.
I find it difficult to even watch these people. There's an offense to my sense of right/wrong, ethical, and honest.
I remember back in the 80's when Limbaugh was just starting to crop up, and a co-worker was already hip-deep in 'Rush Limbaugh says ...' (and this is someone who had the same education as I did, as we attended some of the same schools).
I don't get it. I suppose it's a question of your outlook on life.
...how these wing nuts cling to Reagan, like they do their guns and religion, in these tough times for conservatives. I credit Reagan for starting supply-side economics and free un-fettered capitalism which has eventually led to this economic collapse. But then, perhaps I am bitter, like them, because at a time I had lost my job and was trying to live on unemployment benefits, Reagan decided we should tax unemployment benefits. That's right, while lowering taxes and rolling back regulations for Wall Street Bankers, he raises taxes on the unemployed.
It's just like Bill Maher said...Republicans are gay for Reagan.
I swear, they literally worship him like he's a God. It's creepy in the extreme.
Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Beck, Savage, and the whole right wing dementia crowd, I think we should urge them on at full speed. They are leading the Republican party right off the cliff into the deepest chasm you can imagine. Talk about your lemmings.
If the party cannot retain Gen. Powell's loyalty, what good could it possibly be? Is it open to nut cases only? It certainly appears that way.
you know, one that will encompass all his "qualities"...
fascist tool, world class hypocrite, smarmy POS, grand champion liar,
bigot, racist, greedy scumbag, etc., etc.
Any ideas???
I really can't come up with anything that sounds nearly this awful.
You described the moron we had to deal with for the last eight years to a tee!!
Two words: Friendly Witness.
They really should get off his back considering what that spineless tool knows, and seemingly didn't approve of.
Seems overly gracious by calling what these folks do, "entertainment".
Unless you find hate entertaining.
Rush hates being called an "entertainer" so in that sense it was a very pointed jab.
When he's busted saying something insanely offensive, then 'entertainer' is good cover.
Exactly...when he's controlling the Republican Party via his gold-plated microphone, he's a very Important and Serious person to be treated with Respect.
When he says something grotesquely racist, sexist or homophobic, he's just a harmless "entertainer".
He on loan from god and has half his brain tied behind his back just to make it fair
Truer words were never spoken by a corporatist, fascist (business = government) courtesan. Bum-boys like Rove are incapable of considering a disinterested political perspective that focuses on the public good. Everything is market-place game theory. Rove would have soared in the courts of the European monarchies, the fascist regime of Mussolini and the present-day corporatist states of Singapore, Japan and South Korea. He is the Orwellian face of 21st century America and the enemy of a citizen-based democracy.
Not a day goes by........
The site IS called Crooks and Liars.
Do you have any better examples?
Your fish hook just snagged your cajones. Yank hard and move along, trusty troll.
I don't even have a set and that's making me hurt....
Walk on by. aceshigh is right.
This site could be more successful if it didn't focus so much on the crud element of our society constantly but that's what people want.
This "crud" element helped control our country for the last eight years.
Focusing on what they're up to, even while out of power, is an important watchdog function.
And I think Mr. Amato is quite successful, thank you.
individual.
I want to be able to live my life without the need to CONSTANTLY be on guard for crooked pols and hate mongering ass clowns, but this is the world in which I find myself. I want to trust that the people elected to run this country will have my best interests at heart instead of bowing and scraping to corporate juggernauts and ethically devoid mouthpieces pushing the party line of the money men. I want America to live up to her promise.
You keep preaching that lunacy to your brain dead audience, and you will become even more insignificant with each coming day.
I believe these wing nuts and fringe haters/evangelicals/racists/corporate pig types will be left in the dust of their own party. Nearly all the republicans of yesterday have either left the party or are disgusted with their own party identification.
Idiots like vannity/bor/ingraham/savage/limpballs and the like are pulling the fringe nutcakes together, and it's all that will be left of these butt cakes.
THEN it will be time for a movement of "rational" conservatives to mold a new party. Only problem is, + or - 50% of their party is made up of these ass hats, so it's going to be a thin, weak party at best.
Meanwhile, WE need to keep a keen eye on our own Democratic Party and see to it that we weed out these wolves in sheeps clothing...such as nelson, spector, etc. We need to work to replace them with true progressive Democrats that are out for moving this country forward, AWAY from this corporate greed ogvernment that we are stuck with today.
not in hannity's GOP.
Yes, it's important to emphasize how overtly racist Hannity is.
Giving fora multiple times to cretins like Mark Fuhrman, "Dog" Chapman, Mel Gibson and Bernard McGuirk so they can "rehabilitate" their images should be Clue #1 about Hannity's real M.O.
that's all I ask God, please...........
political crap is just distraction. We spend all of our time and emotional energy dithering about idiots like Hannity, Limbaugh, and Beck - who combined did not earn a high school education.
They are just sociopathic wind-up toys of the corptocracy, spewing hate, intended to keep us divided and uncertain about whether or not we can trust anyone in our government. We can't. The question is:
what to do about it?
"Sociopathic wind-up toys"
Pure poetry, ha!
What to do about it is, I think, what we're doing, to a degree: keep tabs on them, push back, get our messages out there on the airwaves, highlight their essential hatefulness and nastiness with the ultimate goal of marginalizing them.
And frankly, I think they ARE marginalized. They haven't been able to do a damn thing about preventing Obama's election, or his continued high approval ratings among the American people.
They're preaching to their choir, who are so fucking far gone that they'll NEVER be reached by sanity or reason.
i see from the NewsHounds post on this now has a 54% approval rating. How short our memories are. I will NEVER forget that this man put party loyatly above country to the extent that he sat in front of the UN and the world and lied us into a war of aggression. It was as if the US had morphed into the USSR of the 50's and 60's.
The same man who stabed Clinton in the back - via a NY Times editorial - over Bosnia, did not have enought conscience to keep him from lying to the United Nations.
I will never forget this. And btw - where's his mea culpa? typical Republican. No apologies. No guilt.
I'm with ronnie dobbs here...just one massive backhanded pimp slap...that's all I need.
"There are three lights!"
chump change!
That's not true. In recent history, the Dems have never managed to be the party of robotic legislators like the GOP did since '94. In effect, if the entire Congress contained only Democrats there would still be serious policy fights and even a Dem president could not expect his programs to be rubberstamped.
Longer term, I would expect that if the only credible party was the Democratic Party, a chunk of it would break off to form its own party; it could be either the left end or right end of the party.
maybe, if, like you theorize there's only one party and it's the Dems...I would think maybe there would be three parties to form from the Dems...a left, right, and middle...
or maybe the more left leaning people would defect to the Greens, the righties to the Libertarians, and the moderates would stay put.
Why would I care what these chickenhawks say about General Powell???
Hannity with his very limited brain capacity wants the GOP to be more conservative -- great idea! And I bet it will work as well as his Rev. Wright/Bill Ayers talking point worked for McCain
Listen to Sean, ya losers. Keep on keepin on. Don't change. You're doing just fine, asshats.
The GOP would never accept anyone as a member who has a history of being a Republican.
He offers to sell Powell?
Look atn the party he is afilliated with, the GOP (Goofy Opposition Party), Look at the party he supports RNC ( Racist Nazis Party), now look who he is interviewing a American Traitor and he does it with glee. Ask this SPINELESS COWARD how much and what HE has given to this Great Country.
I served with Mr. Powell, he was my commander. So when I hear a piece of slime scum and fecal matter like this GUTLESS COWARD (closet QUEEN), try and condemn my past commander who has forgetten more then this puke can ever swallow salivating on his peers zippers, this alledged excuse of a man can not say anything. He is truly delusional on reality.
I am no Powell fan, but Hammity isn't fit to scrub loogies off of the guy's sidewalks...
I mean he has everybody else on why not Shabazz and others like him.
Isn't Hannity not hearing the nastiness of Rush on the radio the same as Goebbels thinking Hitler was a pussycat?
is really a 7-11. Junk food only.
Hannity, whom by the way, isn't nearly as conservative as Rush Limpbaah, has a lot of nerve attacking a fellow moderate like Powel. Can't the two of them get along? Where is the love?
Karl Rove - 19% approval rating
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.c...
Colin Powell - 74% approval rating
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/news/allnews...
some people just never know when to quit digging, do they Karl..
I love it - the worst thing the Democrats could do right now is reinstate the fairness doctrine, because these people are eating their party alive. The "commentators" are attacking the politicians, the politicians are attacking the commentators, it's like a mosh pit of ignorance. I love it - they are almost tripping over each other to see who can bring the republican party down faster, with the commentators competing to see who can alienate the American people the most.
This is great. Carry on Sean.
...for the Iraqi murderfest. It's a crime that lifetime pussy Hannity can attack Powell simply for being honest.
Please, please -- I hope you all go with the "not conservative enough" meme. Please, please, please. That should finally take care of the problem -- for us.
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I can't stand Sean Hannity. I'd spit on him if I ever saw him.
If they prefer fascism to Democracy (as some people say), they should join the Taliban.
HahNutty really believes the drivel that spews from his well-fed and undernourished pie hole.
Maybe The pied Piper of Poo will take his mole -brain lemming-like know-nothings with him right off the edge of the reality-cliff of the next election(s)...
They don't get it do they? They just don't get it.
The people who take them seriously allow their fears and ignorance to overrule common sense.
Anyone who is wondering about which party to become a part of would have a hard time in following a party which has cooks like this?
Lard-Ass, bedwetting, Hannity is bragging about screwing his favorite smelly prostitute Coulter.
I'm getting really concerned about the new mainstream media preoccupation with trying to figure out how to rehabilitate the Republican Party and put them back in the driver's seat.
The person interviewing Colin Powell, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, the Sunday morning political talk shows, everywhere I turn I hear mainstream media pundits asking one another what the poor Republican Party can do to "start winning back the heart, mind and soul of America?"
WTF?! What on earth FOR?!! I thought we just finally de-balled those loons and rendered them blessedly irrelevant.
What's next in mainstream media?
"How can we return Germany to a military superpower?"
"How can we give pedophiles better access to young children?"
"What can pyro-maniacs do to improve their ability to ignite forested neighborhoods and get away with it?"
GEEEEEZZZZZZZZ!!!!
STOP IT!!!!
Ya! They know this murder and torture is a direct result of not punishing the GOP again and again, but they needs thems the republscum - they have family, they have scripts, they have contracts - they have sponsors!
Most of all, they have no road map for their "shows" without the publiscum playing a central role. The bed will seem empty without them. I say, just look at the profits to be made on the prosecution of the criminal politicians! just the TV coverage will be worth a fotune for the MSM, but the economy will boom in a new era where America actually demonstrates to it's citizens, and to a world audience, that it truly is a beacon of justice. All this, but only if they prosecute the criminal politicians, regardless of their names.
Examples of how the MSM is not left wing. All they do is fawn over goopers.
It's nice to hear commentary from the guy who sold the nation and the world on the bill of goods invented by the Bush administration.
He can go f-ck himself.
Oh yeah , let the good times roll . p>
Stupidity on steroids. Todays GOP!
Sean + Rush + Glenn = one semseter of college. And people wonder why they don't have any great ideas or intelligent leaders?
Please don't take this wrong. The leaders, the uneducated have chose, are like themselves, uneducated. With education and time on planet one deals with ones prejudice and preconceived ideas.
When lacking an opportunity to grow one adapts to the situation by falling back on old ideas embedded in their situation. Its nice to know how high one can go when lacking a clue about the world. One of the unfortunate aspects of this spectacle is that none of the crew have a clue that they have an illness called Ignorance. It is brought on by to much propaganda consumed. The cure as painful as it is, is reality. Heavy doses of reality.
THAT was how he kept himself involved in political activity over his long career.
It's not fun anymore taking on these people. I link into C & L and on the front page we've got Cheney, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Joe the Plumber. I lasted 10 words with Beck and stopped it. NONE of these people are worth my time. They all make me sick, they have nothing to say and I don't think they are going to do us any harm just because they are able to stoke 10% of the populace. Will they go away if we don't give them bandwidth? They don't care how much we revile them because that's their job. So if we give them any attention we're supporting them. If we don't watch them or comment on them they are more likely to just fizzle and go away.
Things like torture and nation-building do denote areas in which the GOP has taken giant steps backward from Reagan. But here, perhaps, is the biggest: they keep screeching "we must be pure, like Reagan!!" when Reagan was by no means a purist.
These days Republicans are hollering that their party cannot prevail until they toss out maverick folks like Specter and McCain and get back to the “purity” of the Reagan philosophy. Their notion is that Reagan represents some “pure” philosophical ideal, which his successors betrayed.
Unfortunately, that’s crap.
People forget that Reagan was Chief Big Tent, holding the teepee door open for a lot of people who disagreed with each other, and even with Reagan, on a lot of big issues. A number of people have remarked that the three main groups in the Reagan coalition – cultural conservatives obsessed with abortion, fiscal conservatives obsessed with tax cuts, and neocons obsessed with the Soviets – would be three different political parties, if this was Europe rather than America. Reagan got those three groups to support each others’ programs, and built a formidable coalition. Phyllis Schafly learned to campaign for tax cuts and bash the Soviets; fiscal conservatives like Bush 41 learned to sing the anti-abortion sheet music. People still question Reagan’s intellect, but seriously – give the man credit for even envisioning the prospect of these three groups of very pigheaded people, working together, when they had never really coordinated together before. Wow.
But then Reagan went further. He persuaded southern Democrats to go over the wall – some of them even switched parties, they liked Reagan’s vision of the GOP so much. He reached out to centrists from both parties. Conservative Democrats helped pass his Reaganomics program and his tax cuts in the house, defying Tip O’Neill. And the eternal nemesis of Republicans, labor unions! Even after Reagan conducted an undeclared war on labor unions, starting with the PATCO crisis, he still wangled an endorsement from the Teamsters in 1984, and got almost half the vote from union households. Only a leader like Reagan could have created the “Reagan Democrat” phenomenon.
Reagan built coalitions out of disparate groups who were indifferent or downright hostile to each other. Purists they weren’t. Beneath their messianic rhetoric, they were some pretty smart, pragmatic politicians.
Reagan’s successors did the opposite: they actually were purists, and drove people away.
The new Republicans of the Gingrich/DeLay/Rove generation have done incrediblly stupid things to chase people out of the party, things that often had nothing to do with their policies, their performance, and their ethical outrages. They did all they could to use legislative and regulatory tools to attack anyone connected withDemocratic power: this explains the K Street project, the effort to crush Democratic lobbyists, their holy war against big-donor trial lawyers, and their war of attrition against unions. They put thousands of blacks in prison by launching the War On Drugs and supporting discriminatory laws such as the crack cocaine statutes. They tried to criminalize the entire Hispanic population of the country, and even condemned McCain for taking a moderate stance on immigrants. A huge part of their 2004 campaign was a war on gays; one of their major 2008 candidates wanted to put HIV and AIDS patients in concentration camps. They turned their back on women, with respect to abortion, education, economics and a dozen other issues. They attacked centrist Democrats like Clinton, and even centrist Republicans like Chafee, Specter, Collins, Jeffords and Snowe. They attacked military veterans like Murtha and Kerry who made the terrible mistake of questioning Bush’s crimes and follies. Anybody who even questions Bush hates our troops – they’re traitors!! And then in 2008 they even condemned Bush and McCain – their stand-bearers for the last three elections – for betraying the “purity” of the Reagan ideal.
It is difficult to find, in modern history, political groups who were so arrogant in their power that they declared Robespierre-like holy wars against anyone suspected of political “impurity”, including their own allies in the "revolution". The only people I can think of, in that regard, are the hardline textbook Marxists under Mao, the KGB and the Khmer Rouge, and the medieval Islamic extremists in Iran and in the Taleban. The difference being, those groups never really had to worry about voters. The Republicans do.
So after Reagan spent all that effort in attracting cultural and fiscal activists, and foreign-policy hardliners, and centrists, and conservative Democrats, and union families, all under one big Republican tent.....The new Republicans, claiming to be the philosophical heirs of Reagan, waged war on all Democrats, lawyers, unions, blacks, Hispanics, gays, women, centrists from both parties, veterans, political leaders like Bush and McCain...everybody who wasn’t pure enough for them. Reagan kept the Republicans on board and attracted Democratic voters and leaders; the new Republicans are driving away not only all the Democrats but the moderate half of their own party.
Such are the fruits of arrogance. These clowns think they’re fulfilling Reagan’s legacy, when in fact they are destroying it.
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