The racist backlash to Obama's presidency

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As we predicted before the election, Barack Obama's victory has loosed a flood of hatefulness from the racist right in America. Digby yesterday had a detailed post laying out some of the cases that have erupted so far. From an AP report:

Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

From the Christian Science Monitor:

In rural Georgia, a group of high-schoolers gets a visit from the Secret Service after posting "inappropriate" comments about President-elect Barack Obama on the Web. In Raleigh, N.C., four college students admit to spraying race-tinged graffiti in a pedestrian tunnel after the election. On Nov. 6, a cross burns on the lawn of a biracial couple in Apolacon Township, Pa.

The election of America's first black president has triggered more than 200 hate-related incidents, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center – a record in modern presidential elections. Moreover, the white nationalist movement, bemoaning an election that confirmed voters' comfort with a multiracial demography, expects Mr. Obama's election to be a potent recruiting tool – one that watchdog groups warn could give new impetus to a mostly defanged fringe element.

I talked to the SPLC's Mark Potok this morning, and here are his observations:

I think there's something remarkable happening out there. I think we really are beginning to see a white backlash that may grow fairly large. The situation's worrying.

Not only do we have continuing nonwhite immigration, not only is the economy in the tank and very likely to get worse, but we have a black man in the White House. That is driving a kind of rage in a certain sector of the white population that is very, very worrying to me.

We are seeing literally hundreds of incidents around the country -- from cross-burnings to death threats to effigies hanging to confrontations in schoolyards, and it's quite remarkable.

I think that there are political leaders out there who are saying incredibly irresponsible things that could have the effect of undamming a real flood of hate. That includes media figures. On immigration, they have been some of the worst.

There's a lot going on, and it's very likely to lead to scapegoating. And in the end, scapegoating leaves corpses in the street.

According to that AP piece, neo-Nazi Web entities like Stormfront have seen a serious spike in business:

One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."

That theme comes popping up a lot:

Grant Griffin, a 46-year-old Georgia native who is white, expressed similar sentiments. "I believe our nation is ruined and has been for several decades, and the election of Obama is merely the culmination of the change," Griffin said.

Last week Chicago Tribune columnist John Kass created a bit of a stir by relaying the story of a Chicago teen who decided to try an experiment in tolerance by wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the words "McCain Girl" to her high school, where Barack Obama was widely favored as a hometown hero. She got something of an ugly reception -- mostly she was told she was stupid, while some fellow students went so far as to tell her she should die.

While it's not terribly surprising -- passions often run high during political campaigns, and people say and do stupid things in the process, on both sides of the aisle -- it should go without saying that this kind of ugliness does not reflect well on the supposed liberals venting it. If nothing else, it makes them look decidedly illiberal in their intolerance.

However, the flip side -- the violence-laced, vile hatred emanating from Obama haters around the country -- is already dwarfing this intolerance. Yet you have to wonder if Kass and the right-wing pundits who made the teen's story a cause celebre will even bother taking a look.



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That what they're doing is ILLEGAL.
I hope they all end up in prison.

When Clinton was president, members of the military regularly criticized him (which is illegal) yet none were prosecuted. During the George Putz regime, criticism of his pResidency was and would be punished.

Now Obama will be stuck between Scylla and Charybdis. He either prosecutes those advocating assassination and gets called petty and vindictive, or he doesn't prosecute them and appears weak.

But isn't a threat to assassinate the president treason? Course this would probably not be considered treason.

What's really gross about this picture is the fact the guy is smiling.

We need to investigate the hate crimes of spreading Anthrax around to prominent lawmakers right before the passage of the Patriot Act as well. I'm so sick of these people getting a free pass by the press.

These anti-American SOB's can kiss my ass.

Won't that make you mule jealous?

More wasted humor stifling a serious topic. way to go.

Ysb, you must be a combination of Lenny Bruce and Richard Prior at funerals.

)O(

Prior to what?

I know when I go belly up, I want my tombstone to read, "You mean that was it?"

)O(

This was my favorite album for toking to when I was in the Air Force

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKa-R6zi8MM

to keep from crying...

I won't wipe for a few days while I have diareha because of those jerks.

These people will never change....or acknowledge their criminal behavior.

terrorist groups...

he'd know the whole James Earl Ray assassination story is deeply flawed, and that before he died JER denied shooting MLK Jr, and the King family believed him.

I hate fat assed stupid crackers. They give the entire human race a bad name.

But to be fair...there's idiot bigots in every race and culture..though...it does seem that us white folk have it down to a science.
Damn...

It's an institution. Been that way since reconstruction.

)O(

It was a part of Social Darwinism that tried to reconcile Genesis with Biology, claiming the white races were created by God and the rest through evolution.

Believe it or not when I was fourteen I heard a kid in my Boy Scout troop make the same argument, but at the time I didn't know it's history.

Darwin was a fascinating person...
But yeah...the way some people rationalize their idiotic beliefs is just astounding!

)O(

...he'd be informed enough to be ashamed. A self made black man becoming President destroys every pathetic racist myth this lazy fat slob has been taught. He must be going through some deeply rooted cultural psychosis. The sorry fucker probably can't sleep at night.

...we've got another "unrepentant terrorist" on the loose.

These prejudiced asshats don't realize that what they are doing is as anti-American as their beloved king, Dubya, and his subverting of the Constitution.

But they're white and "Christian" so they can't be wrong!

Down here in the foothills, the peckerwoods are calling Obama the Antichrist. In a world with Osama Bin Ladin, mass murderers, and Mugabe, their heads are so far up their hineys that, by their own speech, they give Osama higher moral ground than Obama. The sheer numbers and depth of dumbassery I'm hearing is appalling, and I'm not even an Obama voter.

Gonna get worse before it gets better

I'm gonna be one of the multitude of very upset people...not only in this country, but around the world...
Something like that could be the catalyst for a 2nd civil war.

...and many people who think that's the plan.

Or, conversely, the open expression of unsupportable bigotry and hatred will turn the tide against racism more strongly than before.

While everybody was engaging in the polite fiction of tactful bigotry, there wasn't much to be done because it wasn't quite so overt. But once it's more out in the open, including attempts at violence and clear insults, it will be easier for the media to get a handle on the situation and it will be clearer which is the acceptable opinion and which one needs to be eradicated.

So long as nobody actually gets killed or hurt, this change could be a good thing for the nation as a whole. Nothing mobilizes decent people faster than a flagrant assault on innocents.

A report in the Dallas Morning Nudes put the incidents in the couple of hundred range. Some like the removal of Obama signs could be just punk kinds who don't know any better, but then you hear about cases like in Ohio concerning the police and some Obama celebrators, the Catholic priests who run off parishioners or deny communion, and I think I read on this site, someone who filled a pizza box with human excrement.

What a bunch of hooey that this is all about the color of a person's skin.

I am so deeply ashamed of my country sometimes.

The Palin crowd and the likes of Hannity, Beck and Dobbs are only creating a situation where we are going to have some kind of major incident.

Depressing hardly covers it.

I think I heard something about an anthrax threat envelope to an Obama supporter.

when someone painted Jesus into a white man.

Anyone who believes in Creationism has "black" ancestry. Ergo, they should start at home by shooting themselves.

...we all do, as the anthropologists nad archeologists have pretty well concluded that the entire human race can be genetically traced back to those who first rose up in Africa.

Everyone should be made to watch the PBS special about the origins of the human genome - then maybe they'de understand that we are all ONE.

The people who need to see it wouldn't believe it.

Most would rather watch NASCAR

As funny as your comment was, it's probably true.

That gets me to wondering how racists deal with pro sports? Do they just root for the "their" color skin players on the teams?

& that's one of their places.

)O(

Oklahoma?

No, they just root for the color of the jersey. Besides, everyone knows "one good jew" and "my best friend is a black guy" and that absolves you and allows you to hate the rest of the group.

Same way they root for their fighting cock or pit bull. They simply believe that black people are a lower species.

They believe that the races were individually created by God, even though there is no Biblical evidence to support this. When the Good Lord took up his pen, he made no comment on the color of his hewers of wood and drawers of water. This is the place to remind the scuzzbuckets that Jesus said that no word was to be added to, or subtracted from, the Bible, and my personal attitude is that the deletion of the books of Tobit, Wisdom, and others by the tyrant King James violates the word of Jesus. (Not that I'm a Christian; Jesus, after all, forgave thieves and indirectly gave us our current crime rate and corrupt judiciary.)

Eight years of the Bush/Cheney administration screwing up our country, starting an unnecessary war, billions paid to their buddies at Halliburton, et al with no oversight, Katrina - bodies floating in the water for days, torture and war on the middle class have made me angry, but I didn't threaten Bush/Cheney with bodily harm! Now most of us have elected Obama and we expect our choice to be respected.

It's a good thing these people are crawling out from under their rocks like the vermin they are. Sunlight sanitizes. Get all their hate out into the open. Investigate them. Warn them. Threaten them. Jail them. They are domestic terrorists and need to be dealt with.

Man, there is nothing that I can add to your perfectly worded post. It's sickening the say that these people are coming out with all their hate. It's vulgar. But I agree, get them out in the open and deal with them. It will get worse before it gets better, but I do believe it will get better.

..and MacChick

The U.S. as a whole is hurtling through a much-anticipated and somewhat drastic growth spurt at the moment, and the only direction is "up", not down.

The process can be painful, yet necessary. And natural.

I fear we'll be seeing and hearing more about thes kinds of idioat/incidents. As the economy gets worse, and it's gonna get much worse, and the reich-wing jerks on the radio and Fox continue to ratchet up the talk that it's the Democrats fault, these good-for-nothing, white trash creeps will get even more riled up.

And it won't all be race on the face of it, some will be religious, some that we're all socialists etc.

Public schools are socialist.
Clinics are socialist.
Roads are socialist.
Fire and police departments are socialist.
[fill in the blank] is socialist.

We are, in part, a Socialist nation. Extremism of any ideology is the danger. They will, as you implied, label us to the extremes.

"Government of the people by the people for the people" is socialist.

It's also democratic - with the small "d".

)O(

A Social Compact is socialist as well.

...ain't that a bitch?

My guess is that we will see a rise in the militia-type groups we saw during the Clinton years - like the ones that were behind the Oklahoma City bombing.

The current administration seems to think that liberal hippie/protest groups need to be watched and spied on because they are dangerous. Well, the liberal groups are NOTHING compared to these extreme, semi-illiterate gun-toting nuts.

I really hope I"m wrong about this.

The nice thing about illiterate gun-toting nuts is they won't read the instructions like, point away from face before pulling the trigger.

But having grown up amongst the gun toting illiterati...I can tell ya with 100% certainty...they have no problems firing a weapon at their intended targets.

. . . it's time for Christians to stand up and be counted. There is nothing Christ-like about hatred or racism. People who cloak their anger and fear in Christianity need to be called out and Christ's message needs to be demonstrated. The message was peace, inclusivity and treating others as you would have them treat you. Please don't confuse this ugliness for anything approaching Christianity.

)O(

I hope the Secret Service investigates that nutjob Ted Nugent for his violent statements against Obama as well

They are filled with so much hate that no sane person can imagine those sorts of feelings. What would cause someone to hate another person that much. Don't they listen to what Obama is saying? Don't they understand if President-elect Obama does what he wants to do and will try to do that they will benefit too? When you combine hate and ignorance you have a dangerous mix.

It would have been very helpful if McCain had insisted Palin either tone herself down or get the hell off the ticket. He too could have done a little something to stop the fanning of the flame all through the end of the campaign.

Another thing, no one has to like Obama, but why do they insist on talking about his death? Do they call themselves Christian while making these frightening statements.

Obama could be jesus christ incarnate, and they'd justify their hatred somehow...
Blind hate doesn't need logic, or intelligence...just reinforcement by their peers.
And yes...they consider themselves xtians...very much so...and so do alot of the more extreme hate groups out there...
Which is one reason among many that I don't care for religion.

The sane churches should condemn this behavior. Ministers should get on tv and talk about this. Shame them into calming down. Maybe just maybe it might help

The sane churches should condemn this behavior. Ministers should get on tv and talk about this. Shame them into calming down. Maybe just maybe it might help

What would cause someone to hate another person that much.

That's a great question. Most of these groups live in a fantasy world of hate. This makes them reject the outside world where sanity would conflict with their crazy ideas of life. These people are definitely not normal, hating people for being different is something that any decent level headed person simply does not do.

This is so stupid it has to be one of Palin's people. Everyone knows now that James Earl Ray didn't shoot Dr. King and he was set up. This tells you something about this man, he doesn't read. Most of those who followed Sarah Palin were none readers and just followers to anything an idiot has to say.

ray did kill king

troofers are not welcomed here

and heard about the King Family forgiving him...but was not aware that him NOT pulling the trigger had been proven.

"King’s family has been pushing for a trial for James Earl Ray, who is serving a 99-year prison term in Tennessee for the slaying. They say they are not convinced he acted alone, as several investigation have concluded, or even committed the crime."

http://www.democracynow.org/1998/4/3/thirty_y...

There's no way that racist dolt committed that disgusting act alone....same as Oswald, Siran, etc.

Ray was hired by his cousin, a professional hit man, and set up.
A second cousin, a truck driver, brought the guns in. The FBI knows all of this, but too many of them are related to the Chattanooga KKK head who set all this up, and a sitting president is related to the second-in-command of that KKK group at that time. They will never allow you to know the details.
The truck driver lives with his guilt, says "We were country boys, we didn't even know any black people, and we were always taught to hate them. Once I started working with them, I found out that they're people just like us." He is far gone in alcoholism from the erosion of guilt upon his soul.
The hit man is in prison in the South and has been in prison for several other murders. The sob who hired them, and who in all probability hired Sirhan Sirhan to kill Bobby Kennedy, is elderly, still runs his own business. The paid-off Sirhan family member has been jailed at least once for food stamp fraud via the convenience and liquor store she was paid off with.
I repeat: the FBI knows all this and will do zilch.

In the world of Simple Sarah, if her "unrepentant terrorist" assassinates an associate of your "unrepentant terrorist" her terrorist is a fucking patriot.

its really rather simple...sure, there will be those that will hate a person of color no matter what...but these asshats on the radio and mccain/palin helped to stoke the flames of hatred with their bullshit assertions that obama is a radical as a result of past associations, no matter how tenuous.

so arrest them all, send them to gitmo (gives us a good reason to keep it open) and torture the lot of them

All in favor, say AYE!
All opposed....WTF?

And make sure Ann is in handcuffs as well. But do they put Coultergeist in the male or female prison?

Knowing that race actually was an issue in this campaign, it makes McCain/Pailin adding terrorist and socialist to the mix even more of an incredibly ignorant act. And they have done nothing to attempt to pull it back and be truthful about their actions by publically apologizing for using such terms. How can they sleep at night?

BUt how they sleep at night is simple...
McCains old, and is in bed by 7pm sharp...Palin...she's on meds for her "condition" and they knock her right out.

I don't think opportunist like Palin have a conscience at all. If talking about Obama as though he were some sort of sleeper cell terrorist got her one more vote, it seemed to be fine with her.

She is a cold, calculatin...individual...ain't she?

her

She's cold. She's calculatin'. But individual, she ain't. Part of a hungry, frenzied crowd.

)O(

S**t loads of Jack Daniels

that is protected under the constitution. Like it or not!

ACLU Member 55768

Is NOT, however.

)O(

I dunno, everytime I watch TV I want to do something violent

Like put my foot through the screen.

But last week I got my 3 dvd's of Sheena of the Jungle.

http://members.tripod.com/~Moviecraft/webpix/...

Unfortunately she does wear more clothes than that.

It is a felony

ACLU # 92947787

you cant continue to make assertions that inflame hatred and violence...the secret service has shown that the moment palin started on her "pals around with terrorists" bit, the threats towards obama and his family increased exponentially...and the bitch hasnt stopped yet...watch her on blitzer

Actually, you can yell fire in a crowded lobby if the crowded lobby is on fire.

Semantics!

)O(

Might I suggest Sementics?

Sounds like a good name for a company of porno distributors.

for the distinguished republican senator.

)O(

Distinguished by his sticky handshake?

Naaaaaaaahaaaaasty!!!

)0(

You need to rest now! You're getting stale as yesterday's palin.

Palin needs to be paid a visit by some Secret Service guys...

That's true. But this really just comes down to human decency, doesn't it?

To come on here and tell us that hate speech is protected means that you support hate speech, which means you are not a decent human being.

It's really that simple.

And why is Limbaugh getting away with this? This is incredibly disturbing that a media giant is such a racist and his listeners agree with him.

...it means he is defending freedom of speech. Although there is much to be detested by what the Rushes and Hannitys of this world yap about, I have heard none that equate to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. Please don't turn into one of them in order to combat them. George Bush already has done that with the other terrorists.

It's the opposite version of the end of the 60s, when Nixon got elected. Back then, someone like Ayers would've been considered an anarchist. Now it's the people favored by the establishment who fit the bill.

I hope the FBI is as busy checking these people out as they were when they were infiltrating anti war groups before the invasion of Iraq.

)O(

Check out US News And World issued May of 2006 (may be 2005), on how money disbursed for Homeland security was spent on spying on anti-war groups.

Like the Vietnam era joke, more local law enforcers in the groups than protesters.

Why is it that anti-war groups are seen as "subversive", while war-mongers (and war-profiteers) are seen as "patriotic"?

I noticed the picture of the racist was taken at night with a flash. Did he put up the letters,take a picture,then take them down? Only the KKK meeting will know.

Racism isn't hidden so much...

sad stuff

But I hope we're both wrong.

)O(

I don't think Civil War is brewing, but perhaps rioting might return.

But considering the physical condition of most middle-aged white guys we can get away during their breathers.

It wouldn't be much of a war. There are far more intelligent white people and black people than there are idiots such as the ones we are discussing.

That you're right...

If there weren't, Obama would not be going to be our next president, McCain would. The votes tell the story.

I feel better now, thanks!

)O(

I pray to (insert deity of choice here)
Mon, 11/17/2008 - 13:07 — liberalNmoderation
That you're right...

Bob?

)O(

That's why I tend to goof on subjects like this, we don't want to make ourselves irrational with what ifs...

That and crippling depression.

I must admit that I crippled myself Saturday night...not with with depression...not with what ifs...but with copious quantities of beer and no small amount of some green stuff...that I found...on the ground...it must have fallen off the back of a truck or something....I swear!

)O(

I haven't had any green stuff in years.

But strangely enough have dreams of it.

Nor would they understand it. Ignorance and stupidity.

As a country, we need to face this head on. We cannot pretend it does not exist, which so many of our leaders have been doing for so long, pointing out progress, without truly acknowledging how far we have to go.

Morons on the rabid right are already trying to claim that Obama's election heralds the end of racism (and then adding, in true racist fashion, that minorities have no more excuses). On the contrary, as is obvious, his election has emboldened racists to show their {{{ahem}}} true colors.

Let it come. I'll speak, I'll march, I'll be active, and risk what it takes. Lives, fortunes and sacred honors. It's our turn.

More Americans (myself included) need to get involved, and show that we're not gonna take this abuse anymore.

You can almost count to 10 before they start tackling affirmative action.

constitution when YOU can minipulate it. Ah ha! See my point now!

Considering the past eight years, have you any idea how ironic your comment sounds?

Don't do comedy, and don't get irony...

The literal mind does not understand the ironic mind, and sees it always as a source of danger.
------Christopher Hitchens

but Mattyroc's comment wasn't just ironic, but MORONIC, considering the last eight years.

I was trying not to get too personal. But I do stand corrected. ;)

No president has ever gutted our Constitution worse than Bush has.

Shall I quote him?

“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”

Re: The racist backlash to Obama's presidency
Mon, 11/17/2008 - 13:15 — pissed off patricia
Considering the past eight years, have you any idea how ironic your comment sounds?

Sounds a bit like that scene where Kunte Kinte was being whipped while his master was inside listening whilst reading the Bible.

Mattyroc:

constitution when YOU can minipulate it. Ah ha! See my point now!

I am on record here on the last thread where this got out of control defending the free speech rights of racists. I am a civil libertarian, and very proud of it.

I had all sorts of nasty accusations hurled at me.

But reading your threads above, you're just here to instigate and flame bait. You're not helping the Constitution at all.

Don't EVEN try to accuse us of manipulating the Constitution!
When your party* has made that into an art form.
Where are you getting your bullshit misinformation from there sonny jim?

*assuming your a republican...if not..my apologies...if so...my condolences on the loss of the election, and your party.

the Constitution, they shred it.

They can't spell, either.

The rabid right of Know Knothing Knation treat the Constitution largely in the same way they treat the Bible. They've never actually read it, but they're certain it sanctions their every gut feeling and prejudice.

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hasn't

With a name like Snow White, she would have probabley voted McCain.

Genius

I see your point, now put your hat back on. That is if you can minipulate it.

You're not adding anything to this thread. I see a rock over there with some space under it. Go fill that void.

but expressing ones opinion is not meere convenience. ITS PROTECTED!!

[Deleted. I'm am not a fan of the term "You Liberals" or anything resembling it, used as an epithet. Got it? Sitemonitor]

LOL This is just too easy so I'm going to back off and just let Mattyroc entertain us with his or her creative spelling.

This bigot is a total waste of time...I'm out too.

I must away with myself!
As I have laundry to do.
Good Day!
I said GOOD DAY!

Later peoples!

one incites references of death to our President-Elect. Yup. Yours and mine.

Could you be less of an American right now?

Do you UN-DER-STAAAND the difference?
What the Fascist propagandists are doing is attempting to hide their incitement by calling it opinion...and they're barely able to conceal their hate and contempt for those who aren't like them.
Can you neo-CONs get your feeble little troglodyte minds around that?
Or is that too abstract?
Shall we dumb it down for ya? You betcha!

it's protected.

But what do meerekats have to do with anything?

Manners?

Mattyroc:

but expressing ones opinion is not meere convenience. ITS PROTECTED!!

Can you liberals understand that?

I'm not sure why, but I'll try again. There are some of us here who do operate from a civil libertarian standpoint. If you would stop flaming, and generally being a condescending dick, you'd find civil libertarian allies here.

And not just an idiot?

Something tells me he is not a civil libertarian, liberalNmoderation. I'll defend the racist's equal right to speak with the same zeal I'll defend the socialist's and the atheist's and the theocrat's.

I'm pretty sure that standard does not apply to Mattyroc.

I defend everyones right to free speech as well...but I've been trying to explain to Mattyroc...that what some of these talk show people are abusing that right, and whipping up their listeners/viewers to a fever pitch...on PUBLIC airwaves...it's illegal, it's unconstitutional, and it's dividing this country.

liberalNmoderation:

I defend everyones right to free speech as well...but I've been trying to explain to Mattyroc...that what some of these talk show people are abusing that right, and whipping up their listeners/viewers to a fever pitch...on PUBLIC airwaves...it's illegal, it's unconstitutional, and it's dividing this country.

As with everything in the civil libertarian model, one may not cross that boundary line of infringing upon the rights of non-consenting other persons.

Any actor can potentially cross that line, even through speech, though I do think we must be very careful when calling for penalties for speaking. Let's make sure as sure can be that that line has actually been crossed.

True...but an actor may not be willfully stirring up shit in order to bring about violence against an individual or group...while the personalities previously mentioned in this thread are doing so.

And you're absolutely correct...we must be extremely careful about calling for penalties for speaking...
thanks for the perspective.

)O(

Wasn't there something about lying though to cause others pain? Like telling a man his wife is dead when she's not. That sounds like a Civil Suit. Or telling someone that somebody else is gunning for them to cause them to fight, possibly to the death?

Probabley thinks a civil libertarian is that nice lady who works at the library.

Like Mattyroc knows what a civil libertarian is.

that somebody's junior high school let out early today.

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