The racist right indulges its assassination fantasies
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We're already aware that the white-supremacist crowd is already creating a higher level of security concerns surrounding Barack Obama's inauguration.
So somehow it probably figures that Sean Hannity's old pal Hal Turner would be out there leading the parade of nutcases making threats around the events.
According to Mark Potok at the SPLC, Turner has gone public this week with his threats:
On Friday, neo-Nazi threatmeister Hal Turner, amplifying on an earlier posting suggesting that it would be a good thing to use an unmanned drone carrying explosives to attack the crowds, said a mass murder of those attending the festivities “would be a public service.” “I won’t say what may happen Tuesday but I will say this,” Turner wrote on his blog. “After Tuesday, the name Hal Turner may live in infamy. Let it be known that I saw what was necessary and decided to do what had to be done. I make no apology to those affected or their families.”
Earlier, on Jan. 11, Turner had posted photos to his blog, under the headline “My Inauguration Dream,” of a small, unmanned drone, an electronic guidance system and sticks of dynamite as he laid out one method of attack. He also discussed the possibility of sending up balloons filled with helium and a “payload” and fitted with fuses that would explode the balloons over the crowds. And he displayed a grainy video that purported to show that method being tested. “Too far fetched?” Turner asks of a possible balloon attack. “It got tested and it worked! … Watch the video and imagine what payload, other than the index cards taped to the outside of the test balloons, might be substituted? HMMMMMM. Might be something messy? Something contagious? Something deadly? Ahhhh, such possibilities!” Then, last Thursday, he posted an update, saying: “All the assets that need to be in-place for next week are now in-place; deep within the security perimeter. Everything is a ‘go.’ We have crossed the Rubicon; let history judge us well.”
Well, fortunately, Turner is not someone to take seriously, any more than gay-basher Fred Phelps. He's made numerous threats in the past, and all have been just so much gasbaggery. Moreover, he has a nonexistent following, especially after it was revealed he had been doing federal-informant work, which pretty much destroys your cred in white-power circles.
Mind you, part of Turner's schtick is planting a seed of doubt in the back of people's minds. That's what he is doing when he says he hopes more to target the crowds than Obama himself.
Mind you, if you happen to see Turner this week in D.C., you'll want to steer clear. Not because he really poses a threat, but just because he's Hal Turner.
I hope the secret service do to, saying crap like that is only one shake away from doing it.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
they should lock this MF up - pronto!
Three days ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euiLse3dsA
That guy had a huge mullet...
They could be cell-mates.
Let's just send him to Gitmo for a little interrogatin', old skool. A turrist is a turrist is a turrist!
Seriously, the Secret Service should be so far up his ass right now...
If someone had said the same thing publicly on January 19, 2005, they would have been in Gitmo within hours and dead within days.
Lock his ass up.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Agreed!
...on Chicago's westside to discuss his views on race relation's and Obama being elected President with some of the "zero tolerence" brother's who live here. His wretched little body will never be found.
Why isn't he in jail? Maybe I didn't understand the post or something but seems to me he's mentally ill or something and whatever, he should be confined somewhere until he is evaluated.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The fact that he's an informant makes me think he's trying to get the attention of any would-be assassination groups out there just so that he can rat on them later on and feel like a hero.
a couple of years ago for nothing more than telling Darth Cheney his policies sucked.
Why isn't this dick-head in jail?
Is it for the same reason that the US ATTY in Denver refused to prosecute the meth-heads who were plotted an assassination at the nomination festivities?
I am already worried to death about President Obama's safety, didn't need to read something like this.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I'm afraid their intention is that he isn't even inaugurated. Then they could say that there never actually was a black president - you know how these crazy, angry, stupid people think.
This is all very scary stuff. They're going to have to be very diligent to keep this man safe - AND Obama is going to have to be smart about it too.
Unfortunately, I worry that they are as likely to go after his family as they are to go after him - something I would not have worried about with any of the past presidents.
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When ever a would be conservative terrorist makes a threat it should be taken seriously. Conservative terrorist Eric Rudolph killed and injured roughly 100 Americans, conservative terrorist Tim McVeigh killed scores of Americans in Oklahoma City. Homegrown conservative terrorism is at least as much of a proven threat as terrorism from abroad. If GITMO and waterboarding is good enough for terrorists and would be terrorists abroad then it's good enough for conservative terrorists and would be conservative terrorists at home. Could you imagine the outcry from the reichwing if say PETA advocated killing Americans in a terrorist attack like Turner is advocating? Why they'd use it as an excuse to go after every progressive organization in the country. The conservative double standard is its ok to waterboard to get information from terrorists and would be terrorists from abroad but it's not ok to waterboard would be conservative terrorists like Turner who make threats against Americans? Why the double standard? Turner's made a terrorist threat against Americans and the president elect, strap him to the board!
on MSNBC or CNN, they're drawing the kooks out in the open by "using past informants"...That would be pal Hal
The administration has all this wiretapping stuff going on and listening to everyone's calls, meanwhile, this idiot is bragging about what he wants to do and nobody seems to care.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
..so much so as I have to wonder why he's not being locked up.
Eh, the secret service probably listened to him, knows he's a crackpot and that's that. Great!
Until high profile crackpots like this end up having to account for their rantings, their rantings will continue. Make them even more public and the public will see them for what they are!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
The guy who walked into a Unitarian Universalist Church with his guns blazing had books by O'Reilly and other nutjobs.
Ditto the asassin who murdered the Arkansas(i think) Democratic Party official.
Freedumb of Speechifying:Hannity and Rush and Ann got it!
You and me: not so much...
This shitstick obviously belongs in an asylum on heavy doses of Haldol. Better still, though, may he wander off into the areas of DC, I know them well, where his white ass will get kicked so far from sundown that he will swear allegiance to Stokely Carmichael, Bobby Seale, Eldridge Cleaver, and Huey Newton...
Fiat...let it be so.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5px1C7cl04
seriously how the hell is this even legal?
Right-wingnut jobs get "Freedumb of Speech."
Yelling "CHENEY SUCKS" on the street is turrism.
Inciting the asassination of the USAs first black POTUS is a "right."
Law 'n' order for ME and not thee.
right on again!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Does it only count as a crime is someone threatens a Republican? I mean we all watch what we say on here so it isn't misconstrued to mean something we don't intend and now this guy is shouting about terrible things and that's okay? It makes no sense.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The "libbrill meejia" has been framing everything from an extreme right view ever since Ray-gun trashed the "Fairness Statutes" in the eighties.
The Right is allowed to advance their dumbshittery without any threat or fear of being called on it or countered by the truth.
This is their most powerful weapon: controlling the message and manufacturing (uninformed)consent.
Here is the result.
No wonder the Right gets their collective knickers in a twist at the mere whisper of "fairness statutes."
2 more days Patricia and you might be able to talk about justice for those who deserve it without fear of the Secret Service knocking on your door.
throw a shoe, go to jail and be tortured. Threaten a terrorist attack on the inauguration, even going so far as to say all processes are ain place and it's a go, and it's all good.
take this guy in and waterboard him.
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what is worse, ignorance or indifference?
I don't know and I don't care!
This article is written like this Bozo's threat is a joke. Mr. Neiwert, you may think this is funny, but most of us don't. This jackass needs to meet Jack Bauer
Hal Turner sounds like he may have information vital to stopping an attack. Waterboard his ass!
Take him seriously. if he talks like a racist, looks like a racist, he probably smells like one too.
I would be nervous just calling a friend and telling them about this story over the phone. I would be fearful that my phone conversation might be heard and misunderstood.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
if instead of being named Hal Turner, he was named Ahmed al Turner he would be struggling with a soaked rag in his mouth, as a group of thugs pour water over his face.
the asshole discusses with joy how he would commit mass murder of american citizens because he is afraid of black people. he is the most dangerous type of racist, the cowardly racist.
looks like Hal Turner doesn't "really" want to see this stuff happen he's just trolling for extremists:
http://pastebin.com/f640d724d
the guy's an epic troll. and a tattletale. ugh what a disgusting hobby. well I guess it takes all kinds. =\
- an excerpt from the newly released "Tom Clancy's The Fat Wank-mind"
do so many of these soft,flabby Republican nutcases always look like they troll the men's restrooms?
They talk a big game but put a rifle in their hands and send em to the front lines and they crap themselves.
W, Rove, Cheney, et al. They're fabulous at sending others to do the grunt work...couldn't get deferments during Vietnam fast enough.
...However, during the Vietnam era, George W. Bush served in the Texas Air National Guard and although he may have been AWOL this has never been fully collaborated. Richard B. Cheney did apply and legally receive five draft deferments. The only criminal act to avoid military service was that of Karl Rove who dropped out of college then failed to notify the Draft Board as was then required by law...
and cowards to boot.
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seems conservatives like Rove have a history of breaking the law and getting by with it. Just let a pinko try the same thing and see what happens to him.
... reich-wingers like Turner and his BFF Hannity will jump at the first intimation of any tie between a Democrat and a terrorist, or spew propaganda about how we need to know who's talking to whom ...
... but when ol' Hal spins a plot about launching an attack not only on the inauguration, but the crowd below, he gets a free pass because it's 'free speech.'
No, it's a terrorist threat, under the very laws your hero, George W. Bush, put in place. Gitmo. Interrogation. Indefinite stay without access to counsel or filing of charges.
needs to do their patriotic duty and punch him in the nose.
Please tell me this crackpot is being taken seriously by security.
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
Maybe this guy is only blowing smoke, but he might give other idiots ideas and that's frightening.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
meth head will do his bidding. I'll bet they're planning while the rest of the country is celebrating.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
and planning is more like it.
What that fuck is wrong.
I think we are all asking the same question and just sitting back in disbelief.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Even as upset as I got reading this post, it didn't kill my Obama buzz that has been with me for the past four or five days. I'm just so excited. I feel like a little kid and tomorrow is Christmas morning. I already know what I'm going to get...I just can't open the present yet.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
A link for yesterdays entertainment, good stuff
http://www.hbo.com/weareone/
I'm going to save that link for later today when I can just sit back and enjoy it. Thank you so much.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
That link is HBO live so you have to go by the tv on-air schedule of when the show is actually on, then it will play.
Why is it that asswipes such as this can make these statements and nothing happens to them. Of course, the statements are always against anyone remotely leftist. Say something anti-right-wing and BAM you're up against the wall. And, also...his staements are pretty much EXACTLY what the right-whine bitch about Al-Qaeda, bin Laden, Hamas, etc for. Where's Homeland security now?
means that he's mainstream, not fringe. As long as it remains a fantasty, however, good for him.
he's an epic troll. he's fishing for the real extremists. he's a tattletale. I posted this earlier:
http://pastebin.com/f640d724d
Now that I read that Nation article....turns out Miss Turner is also a closet case. Explains all that projected hatred. What a sad pathetic deluded fool. Probably making it in some sleazy back room with Hannity right now.
ah scum. what would we read if it wasn't for scum? the world needs scum.
Or does that only apply to Republican Presidents?
Why isn't this asswipe in prison already?
Obama isn't POTUS yet. Maybe that's how this guy's getting away with it. It will be interesting to see if he keeps making threats like this after the inauguration. Still, you'd think he'd be arrested for planning or supporing terrorism.
I was talking with my winger friend yesterday and she spouted a meme that I've been hearing more and more and that's how they're all scared of the race war that's going to start when (her word) Obama gets assassinated.
This is coming from somewhere as it has the consistency of all other Rovian talking points. Anybody know who's spreading this one?
Since you only fess up to having one such, it expalins why you are casting about for the sources of information.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Needs to be arrested IMMEDIATELY!
WTF are the SS people waiting on?
A little outrageous talk should not allow this nut case to get in line
ahead of Bush and others who need prosecuting. Unless of course his comments were made over Pizza and included an aside about Ft. Dix.
Then I say throw away the keys.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Remerber the guys in Miami who were supposed to be planning to blow up the Sears Tower. I doubt those guys even knew where the Sears Tower was. They are in jail now.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
as vividly as I do that extended portion of the last 8 years, when saying anything in opposition to the War, or any Bush/Cheney action in the wrong quarter netted one a question on the order of "Why do you hate America?" or "Don't you support the troops?" No, we're not talking about comments like using weapons or taking up arms against anyone, either. Okay,well, unless someone (Mudslide Mitch McConnell comes to mind - or his Boner buddy across the Ohio River) has decided that subpoenas are now regulated by the Second Amendment.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Turner makes those guys and Jose Padilla look like American patriots.
Hal Turner has a following of people who just MIGHT do some of the things suggested by old Hal. I mean, reasonable, hopeful, bright folks aren't reading his website looking for ideas on how to make America a kinder, gentler, place. He's hoping someone out there will do some of the crap he's suggesting. He's the guy who would yell fire in a crowded theater....a real menace.
[Terrorism]
1. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.
I can't recall the subscriber's moniker, though they posted a comment a few weeks ago linking too this wacko's website. Admirably, a C&L® sysop removed their comment, though not before I inquired too same. The comments on this referenced site were remarkable. (pun intended)
I myself believe it borders on the grounds of assault, as it is attributable to [Assault/Battery] > http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/assaul...
It's a psychotic viewpoint, definitely caused by the yet unknown, though assumable. I will not insult the majority of fine individuals, whom I believe are associated with similar worldly instructions. It's my opinion, that those fine individuals are the best trained to influence the aforementioned negative energy into the universally welcomed harmony. It's our only hope beyond law and order interaction and could preempt unnecessary sorrow...
Study the symptoms not the virus...
... if someone on the left had said this.
Unfortunately you can't put someone in jail simply because they're a verifiable sociopath. A shame we can't get his website shut down. In my mind he has crossed a line and I hope the FBI is paying attention.
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I got five bucks he's sweating it in a Secret Service interrogation room before the day is out. Enjoy missing the inaugural altogether, whackjob!
He is actually making a fairly specific threat. He's saying he has an attack ready to go that he is responsible for - that it is going to happen. I would think that would be enough of a reason to lock him up.
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He's obviously much further along on his terror plans then any of the alledged terror plotters the FBI busted. Jose Padilla was kidnapped, tortured and sentenced to 17 years in prison for considerably less then what Turner posted!!!!!!!!
... was so organized they had to staple his case to that of another pair of idiots who were communicating in 'code words' like 'eggplant.'
And Padilla was escorted to/from his cell in sensory deprivation gear that some conservative crackpot (Ann Althouse? Debbie Schlussel?) told us was to 'prevent him from communicating in code' with someone (on a closed route that would be occupied only by military personnel), through something like blinking his eyes.
So we're supposed to fear these guys so much that we can't afford to bring them to trial, can't let them go, and have to torture them.
But ol' Hal is free to talk about his 'plot' and how it's all coming together, and you-just-wait.
Throw his ass in jail.
is getting paid by the political establishment so there is no shock if something ever does happen to Obama. IF Obama is serious about change (have my doubts, I think it's empty rhetoric), then the truly afraid will be the political status quo people. This guy would be a perfect little fish to fry while the big fish get away----again.
we need to get to the bottom of the Kennedy assasination before trolling for little fish like Bush and Cheney. When will Amerkkkens quit chasing their tails over promises of change that divert us fro the conspiracy from cradle to cryptology?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Kennedys...MLK...just one giant coverup easily shrugged off with a "oh those conspiracy nuts". Like there is no way humanly possible for a government that does this globally, would do it on their own soil.
Shouldn't the FBI or Homeland security arrest this guy?
Yes they should.
The comments are even more violent than his rant: absolutely amazing how depraved these reichwinger are...
Fox Noise employs this bozo's biggest path to the airwaves, both TV & Radio....Hal Turner & Hannity...two psycho racists joined at the hip...
Hannity - subtract the hood (probably in his car), mullet & beard
then add 'well coiffed' hair/haircut and an armani....and there you have it...
Just like the 'new south'...Hannity is a marketing/PR tool for white supremacists...
We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children - Native American proverb
If being cold means there's no such thing as global warming, does being full mean there's no such thing as world hunger?
Someone in the FBI needs to ask this guy a few questions.
Maybe the CIA could send him to Pakistan and Jordan and see what informations the special skills of our allies in the GWOT can give us.
full 17 minutes--now.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
the hell is the FBI? If someone said this crap about Bush, his/her house would be surrounded!
And I can see this idiot saying, "Oh, I only said it. But I didn't tell them to actually do it." Absolute BS.
NOBODY 2012
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Now come on, don't stoop to their levels.
What a waste of oxygen......
Maybe the "Mannity" can have an adjoining room at the landfill?
"Well, fortunately, Turner is not someone to take seriously, "
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I disagree. Threats like this should be taken very seriously and dealt with swiftly and harshly. That way Bubba Bob from Montgomery won't be quite so quick to act on his neanderthal impulses.
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...that Sean Hannity pals around with terrosists!
What he thinks of Hal Turner's views on the Israeli Gaza Operation: the guy is fiercely anti-israel: "I declare the government of Israel and all its Embassies, Consuls, officers, workers and employees, to be legitimate targets for violent reprisals wherever in the world they can be attacked."
So where is the LGF, Pajamas and Michelle Malkin and so on condemnation ???
Sean Hannity comes from the Nasty side of the Irish who hate the world because they were born with the curse of the Irish--a small wanker. Poor little Sean. He can't even provide "la petite mort" to a woman. Poor little Seanny
I'd like to see Turner, or whoever this fool is, explaining his plans to the (unjustly, mostly Black) residents of a Federal prison.
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd... how is this DORK not in a jail in Tikrit right now? With a car battery hooked up to his nipples? I mean crap, Osama bin Laden hasn't even made such specific threats!! Holy crap!!
I thought there were laws against stuff like this. I thought this kind of stuff was why we had a "Secret Service."
Now what gave you that idea?!?
NOBODY 2012
faults, but I work with people who claim that the bible says that: interracial dating is immoral, and that a black or woman president of the USA will bring about end times, and I do my best to avoid talking to them. If my best friends said something like this they would cease to be my friends.
bring a bible in to work the next day and ask them, nicely, to show me which page it says all those wonderful things.
Also, they didn't have presidents in the days of the bible. But don't tell your co-workers that... :-)
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With all the threats he's made-why hasn't he been questioned?! And why hasn't Hannity been scrutinized for the friends he keeps? People like Hannity, Limbaugh, Larson, Savage, etc etc etc, keep egging these types of wackos on.
Freedom of Speech, Press, and Assembly have always ended at the point where public safety is jeopardized.
Toss his ass in jail.
What a cheesy cracker.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The reason he only threatens the crowd and not a direct threat to Obama, is because it is against Federal Law to threaten the President. He may be President-elect, but the argument can be made that he is the President and why risk it? His rhetoric is disgusting. I hope someone is watching him.
This IS a federal crime.
He should be jailed for the maximum allowable time. No parole. God and human sanity forbid that his words should inspire equally unbalanced but desperate people.
Hopefully lots of wonderful people in DC will be keeping a sharp eye out, and not just the authorities. Obama is everyone's President noon tomorrow. Human treasure that must be protected at all costs.
These sick, hatefilled, bigoted bastards are PROUD card carrying RESLUGS!!
Racist be damned! This man is "openly threatening murder" upon Americans on American soil. At the American capitol.During an American event! Knowingly announcing his treasounous intents! And he's proud of it. Is he bin Ladin? Is he an American? Then he is threatening treason! If he is threatening "fire" in the house, then he is a terrorist. Do it America! Arrest this man, NOW! And arrest his constituents: Hannity, Flush Limbaugh! Operation Chaos is just UNAMERICAN!
for rendition to Saudi Arabia for extreme enterigation techniques.
No... just kidding. I can't justify that kind of treatment... but I would build the fire to heat up the bucket of tar! Any body got any turkey feathers?
Eric Rudolph is not a terrorist, but an anti-terrorist fighter. Those who have killed babykilling abortionists have done so to protect the innocent. People use force everyday to protect the innocent and no one has a problem with it, except when it comes to protecting unborn human beings, then they go ballistic. It's very simple, the unborn deserve the same protection as the born. Born people are protected with force quite often. Force that you would be glad if it was to protect your children against a murderer. Force that you yourself might use to protect your own children from being murdered. The unborn deserve the same protection.
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Eric Rudolph - 'American terrorist'
Snip - In an editorial earlier this week, The Birmingham News said Rudolph's actions were "nothing short of terrorism and should be punished as such." The Courier-Journal.com of Louisville, Ky., also describes Rudolph as a " domestic terrorist."
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0415/dailyUpdat...
Amended: The case of Eric Rudolph: Right-wing terrorism and the Bush administration
Snip - Bumper stickers and other paraphernalia backing Rudolph have appeared in the area, and one local restaurant owner announced she was starting a defense fund and posted a sign urging passersby to “Pray for Eric Rudolph.”
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/rdp...
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Ummm - I may have missed something here.
During the election campaign - the racist redneck Republicans - ESPECIALLY Sarah Palin - claimed that Obama "palled around with domestic terrorists" because one of the members of The Weather Underground once had tea and biscuits with him!
The Weather Underground were "terrorists" because they made numerous THREATS to bomb or kill Americans including the Pentagon and politicians.
Many of the Guantanamo Bay detainees were arrested, imprisoned and tortured for making THREATS against America and especially the President - arsewipe Bush.
SOOOOOO - when Hal Turner makes similar threats against Americans AND Obama - instead of just brushing him away as full of sh1t - shouldn't he be rotting away at Guantanamo Bay for being a "domestic terrorist?"
And the same goes for many others who have disgraced themselves on Fox News and the like.
Plenty of orange jumpsuits for Anne Coulter, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly!
Turner is the Result of a Right-Wing Media that believes in a anything Goes Mentality.
It's a good thing for Turner he never wrote an article for a high school paper criticizing Bush or showed up at a Bush fund raiser wearing a Bush Sucks button. Hell, the Secret Service would've been all over him.
In my mind the operative word is "do".
I'm torn. Freedom of speech is a pretty sacred thing. On the other hand, Europe may be on to something with hate speech legislation. With assault and battery, assault is the threat and battery is the attack. If someone states the "opinion" that "any black man who attempts to be president should be stopped", I guess that's legal in the U.S.? But it's my understanding that as an implied threat it's basically assault upon a ethnic group and wouldn't be legal in Europe. If that assaultive statement motivates an attacker, that attacker is then the party guilty of battery. Europe certainly understands from experience that hate speech motivates human rights violations. So are they doing the right thing?
But "decided to do what had to be done"? Seems pretty cut and dried. Should have warranted a little talk with the Secret Service at minimum to determine whether Hal is a crazy fool or foolishly crazy.
Why is this domestic terrorist not behind bars where he belongs?
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds--Bob Marley
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