Glenn Beck seems to be feeling sorry for himself for having brought down a brickload of opprobrium -- and fleeing advertisers -- for having called President Obama a "racist" with "a deep-seated hatred for white people".
So he brought on the big guns to defend his teary-eyed self: Rush Limbaugh. No black hole emerged from the critical mass of so much wingnuttery on one program, but it did produce a yawning maw of first-tier fearmongering, colored with a garish streak of self-pity.
Beck started off the festivities with a brief reference to his, ah, persecution at hands of liberal blue meanies:
Beck: Oh sure, they're tearing me apart -- but none of the facts! Write what you learn on this show down. Write these questions down and demand answers.
Because it's not my America we're talking about here. It's all of ours -- left, right, Democrat, Republican -- all of our freedom of speech is on the ropes. And questioning your government is not only important, it is -- in a democratic republic, which I think we still have, it is required of you. Freedom of speech is under attack.
Then came on the Big Man himself, who declared Beck heroic for bearing up under siege from those liberal meanies, who want to "silence" right-wing talkers like themselves:
Limbaugh: This whole administration is as radical and far left as any that the country has ever had. And what they're trying to do here to communications is simply stifle dissenting voices. They're trying to wipe out any opposition. If you look at Barack Obama and his track record as a politician, it is to clear the playing field. He doesn't even like debating his opponents. He just wants to get rid of them.
Quoth the man whose frequently-expressed desire to "do away with all the liberals" inspired The Eliminationists. But then, Limbaugh is nothing if not the Master of the Projection Strategy.
Thus inspired to new depths, Beck then unleashes one of his patented paranoid fantasies about how somebody from the right is going to do something ugly and give the Obamabots the excuse to "seize power overnight":
Beck: If you watch MSNBC, I contend that you will see the future. Because they are laying the ground for a horrible event that will be -- eh, what they're laying the ground for, anything from the right, they're -- some awful event -- and I fear this government, this administration, has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power overnight before anybody even gives it a second thought!
Hmmmm. Yeah, it'll be the fault of those darn liberals at MSNBC -- and not right-wing fearmongers like Beck and Limbaugh who are constantly frothing up mindless hysteria about Obama and the Democrats -- who will be responsible when some right-wing extremist blows up another federal building. Right.
Limbaugh, in response, saves the best for last:
Limbaugh: I'm really -- you know, we may be looking at Barack Obama destroying the Democrat Party. It's too soon to say that now, but we may be looking at that happen. There are reasons for optimism, but you are right, it is a dangerous time. It's the most dangerous time in my life for freedom and liberty in this country.
Beck: I will tell you, um, a lot of people would say, 'Well, that's Rush Limbaugh, he's, you know, this is hyperbole, etc. etc.' Would you agree with me, Rush, that this is not -- this is not conservatives or Republicans or independents talking about this, because they don't like Rush -- uh, they don't like, um, Barack Obama. These are Americans -- I'm an American, I'm speaking to you as an American -- this is bad for anyone unless you're in the power circle. You don't want to go down this road with what they're proposing with the FCC.
Limbaugh: No -- well, I don't want to go down the road with anything they're proposing on anything, Glenn. And it's -- but you ask an interesting question. You know, are people going to react to you or me, because, 'Well, that's hyperbole,' that's what these guys do.
I, uh, my first hour yesterday was chronicling how this man is systematically dismantling our ability to gather intelligence to protect ourselves against an attack. He is purposely using his Attorney General to make the United States the villain of the world.
And I'm gonna tell you, folks. From the bottom of my heart, I am uncomfortable thinking and saying these things about a man who's been elected president of the United States. It is terribly upsetting and disconcerting, and I wish I didn't think it, and I wish I didn't have to say it.
But, there's no way to sugar-coat it: This is not politics as usual. This is not left vs. right. This is not Republican vs. Democrat. This is statism, totalitarianism, versus freedom.
And if these people are allowed to go where they want to go unchecked, then some people, a lot of people -- I don't think half the country, but close -- will wake up one day and find, 'My God, what the hell happened?' Because this is not what they voted for, they had no intention of this. They thought they were getting something entirely different. And it is, uh, it's a responsibility that we all have, being honest and earnest, to inform people of what these possibilities are, because they are very real.
Sigh. Doesn't anyone else find it kind of peculiar that right-wingers -- and these two in particular -- not only avidly don the garb of victimhood after making light of actual victims on a professional and regular basis, but also are unable to actually name any "freedoms" that Obama is actually taking away?
In the two most common instances cited -- Beck's old fave, guns, and his current fave, the FCC and the "Fairness Doctrine" -- there have been no actual policy changes even submitted or discussed so far. In other words, they're scaring up boogie men out of thin air.
This includes the wailing and teeth-gnashing over the ostensible efforts to "silence" them. Just Lather. Rinse. Repeat:
This is a familiar refrain that comes up every time anyone raises a socially damning issue like this one: We're trying to oppress them, to silence their voices, by pointing out how morally and ethically bankrupt they are.
Actually, we're just pointing out how bankrupt they are. No one here has said anything about silencing their voices -- we just want them to face up to the consequences of their irresponsible rhetoric. It's called culpability: They obviously are not criminally culpable, nor likely even civilly culpable. But they are morally and ethically culpable.
We do have serious differences of opinion here. We strongly believe that there's a clear, common-sense connection between the paranoiac fearmongering that has passed for right-wing rhetoric since well before Obama's election (and has become acute since) and violence like that in Pittsburgh, or in Knoxville: horrifying tragedies, in which the sources of the criminal's unambiguous motives are that very same hysterical fearmongering -- whether it's about the evil socialists, stinking immigrants, or conspiring gun-grabbers who've taken over the country since Election Day.
... The point is not to silence the people saying these things, but to point out how grotesquely irresponsible they are -- in the hopes that they will cease doing so, and start acting responsibly. It's their choice to use irresponsible rhetoric. It's not just our choice but our duty, as responsible citizens, to stand up and speak out about it.
And make no mistake: Rhetoric that whips up irrational fears among the public, that demonizes and dehumanizes and scapegoats -- that's irresponsible rhetoric. And we are calling the American Right on it.
"He is purposely using his Attorney General to make the United States the villain of the world."
How many things are wrong with that sentence, coming from him?
I guess when you can't just straight out say, "Start the violent overthrow of the government now, my zombies!" it just takes lots and lots of crazy talk to get that same message across.
very, very sleepy...
When you wake up, you won't remember a thing...
there is a war going on in Afghanistan? We need to set Afghan women free so they can wear thongs in the bazaar and watch The View.
..with the 'free speech' zones, suspension of habeas corpus, warrantless wiretapping, or any of the myriad of offenses against liberty and the constitution under Bush the Lesser. Why the sudden concern now?
Fair and balanced? Hardly. And Beck is the most unbalanced of the lot, both ideologically and mentally.
"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."
there just aren't two bigger peckerheads on the planet as far as I'm concerned!
I disagree- whoever is paying these agent provocateurs are the worst villains of all. Rush and Glen and O'R are just Goons with a capital "G", but it is the people behind them, writing their scripts, who are culpable and should be held responsible. Glen & Rush ought to be dumped into the garbage-bin of History ASAP; they'll be right at home.
I stand by my original assessment... Beck and Limbaugh are the two biggest peckerheads on the planet!
They read this crap they're told and teleprompted to read; they could tell the writers to stick it where the sun don't shine. They could say that reading this $hite is exactly that and they're not gonna do it anymore... but for the almighty buck they bend over and take it from the big effers who run the show. Goes to show you how little self-esteem each of these peckerheads have, huh?
..is the sudden withdrawl of sponsors. Nothing more, nothing less.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
that is... long live the boycotts!!
This effort to "silence" Beck and Limbaugh is getting so bad that you can't even pack an assault rifle to a Town Hall on Health care these daze without some smug Liberal pointing out that it's a dangerous act of intimidation straight from the heart of crazy Town.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
..and everyone showed up with guns?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
They'd say "Damn these people are crazy! How did they get this nuts?...Oh yeah..."
NOBODY 2012
.....when a new administration takes over?
This is amazing..........how can they sit there and preach this garbage, when they were vehemently defending similar actions over the last 8 years (actions that were far more serious challenges to our freedoms than anything Obama is proposing). It would be comical, if they weren't so serious.
Don't their viewers see right through this? Oh, that's right.....they're too busy watching American Idol; America's Biggest Fat Ass; Who Wants to be a Dumb Ass; or some other such nonsense!
Remember, Obama is the reason we're in two wars and a recession! Now excuse me, I have to go watch Flavor of Love.
NOBODY 2012
need to have their goddamn fascist lying lips stapled shut.
many failed attempts to diet.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
mere office staplery will not suffice.
been abused as a child by career obsessed parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc4Ge1jULKQ&fe...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Questions are not facts. Calling out your lies is not suppression of speech. I know it is difficult for you to understand this. Not being right wing reactionaries does not equate to being far left, socialist, fascist or any other name you want to call it. You get shriller by the minute.
Typical bully behavior. Beck reminds me of a kid I knew in grade 3 who ended up getting hauled off, football style, by the principal because he was so emotionally bent. Bullies will lie and spew and when people call them on it, they are suddenly the victim.
Clearly Beck has not progressed into a higher form of development, nor have his right-wing zombie hordes.
Freedom of speech guarantees that the government won't prevent you from speaking. A consumer boycott of products because buying them finances the means of spreading hate speech via paid broadcasting isn't suppression of freedom of speech, it's the expression of freedom of speech. Speak up, and boycott Fox News advertisers. Tell their advertisers via their websites that you're taking your hard earned dollars elsewhere, where they won't be used to spread racist hate speech.
http://www.democrats.com/boycott-fox-news-adv...
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
But if free speech were under attack, would the wingnuts be able to spew about it like this?
He is using the logic that since we are putting pressure on his advertisers to pull out on him, we are trying to silence him. Of course that's bullshit, something Glenn is very familiar with, like David said he has to be responsible for what he says and what he encourages.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
..that US courts have pretty much defined 'free' speech as something that belongs to those who own the media. And that's getting to be a smaller and smaller group every minute.
What happened to the US media?
Three things, all pushed to the limit by the Republican party:
- the abandonment of the Fairness Doctrine.
- the consolidation of media outlets into corporate hands
- the establishment of the bizarre legal idea that "news" outlets could blatantly and knowingly LIE to the public.
-- A.J. Liebling
"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."
The Earl of Louisiana.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
"Okay, cut off his mike"
-- Bill O'Reilly
I loved that!!! Thanks for the laughs...
I'm not trying to silence Glenny.
I'm just wishing he would fall off the face of Fox.
Christ in a hand bucket! How the hell can grown men go in front of millions of people and straight out lie about everything? Everything!?
These lizards should be fired for their inaccurate and incendiary tirades. That would be the freedom of speech their employers could use ...
Oh just say it Glenn, you know you want to. Just say, there is a black guy in the white house and he is planning along with all the black people he has working for him to come and get all us white people, take all our money and put us in torture camps somewhere.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
can they? They're so afraid and scared that the people of color will treat the white folks as poorly as the white folks have treated them all these long years. My gawd! it's my hope that we can all get along at some point soon. Seriously, these idiots need to grow the eff up! and behave like adults, not whiny suckholes.
I know, I've been tempted to start a rumor that part of Obama's plan to balance the deficit is to start selling white people to China. Planes full of rich white people will be diverted to China,where they will immediately be proclaimed property of the Red Chinese, and forced to work in their sweatshops. It's part of Obama's "let's see how you like it" program.
because the minions of the wealthy would believe it.
Do it.
:D
me-oww!
I love your idea!! C'mon... you've gotta do it!
Obama wants to give Texas back to Mexico?
everyday. When they get called out on their lies, it's someone else bad? WTF, Beck and Rush, face it, we're mad as Hell and we're not going to take it anymore.
Dumb and Dumber.
..I guess it doesn't really matter.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
neither one of these hatemongers is graced with an innocent heart, as we were expected to believe of the two dweebs in that movie.
A man called in to washington journal this morning and repeated almost word for word one of Beck's lie-a-thons. The guests had no idea what the hell the guy was talking about. It was the rant about the FCC taxing radio stations 100% and if the station couldn't pay the tax the FCC would take the station and give it to a minority.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
And there is the word that scares them the most: MINORITY.
"Glen and Rush are doing what the Main Stream Media won't do, which is expose Obama for what he really is."
(It never ends)
And use it to let advertisers to know that I'M NOT BUYING YOUR PRODUCTS IF YOU ADVERTISE ON FOX NEWS, SPECIALLY ON GLENN BECK. Now, Obama has nothing to do with it. I just want this lunatic to shut the fuck up. That's all.
Obama is planning to sneak in one night and take all Beck's audience's fake testicles hanging from the trailer hitch of their pick up trucks. That's his master plan and what frightens Beck the most. That's the only set he has. They won't be making them any more.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
those two pictures look like the before and after picture for the Wingnut Diet.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
a lunatic like Blech would be standing on a corner in tattered clothes, holding a "The End Is Near!" sign in one hand, a tin cup in the other pleading for change.
My, how times have changed.
where people swallow this crap hook, line & sinker.
lived "Life in the Fast Lane" it's totally alien to them.
"He doesn't even like debating his opponents. He just wants to get rid of them." Same could be said for a man who spits into a microphone and SCREENS ALL HIS CALLS. Rush doesn't even want to debate average Americans let alone any of his peers. Wow, can you imagine a Rush vs. Malloy debate?
Thats fat boy for you, biggest hypocrite on earth with an ego that can easily match O'rilley's. He does not know the first thing about debating, every time he has tried taking on someone in a real debate he ends up looking like a fool. So he controls the mic on his show and will hang up on any caller when they start to get the better of him and pretend to still be talking to them, I've seen him do it to many times.
He knows he'd loose and so he avoids real debates, but like his many clones, his ego will get the better of him sometimes and he will get to thinking that he can hold his own in a real debate only to once again look like a fool at the end.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
I have to admit Glenn is partially right in that I do wish he would shut the hell up. He can jabber all he wants to as long as he isn't saying things that make crazy people do crazy things. As long as he sticks with facts and drops the fiction he can jabber to his heart's content.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
..I can hear rupe yelling right now, "beck, go wackier! Your ratings are down! Bring rush in and maybe we'll get sponsors back. I'm not going to carry you forever!" Just sayin' it could happen that way!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
the grownups have taken back our country for now. Sit down and shut the fuck up.
..have a seat at the kid's table and be quiet!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
eat some fuckin vegetables!
You've already single-handedly eaten several breeds of cow and pig onto the endangered species list!
Uh, Rush, oppressed people don't beat drug charges.
I wonder what great films we will find were written under pseudonyms by Rush and Beck when they suffered under the Obama blacklisting.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Hey, Glenn...
The Obama administration didn't make your advertisers go away... the Free Market did!
A whole bunch of people who think you're a dillweed called a whole bunch of your advertisers and told them we wouldn't buy their crap anymore because they advertisted on your show. They responded to protect their financial interests and cut their ties with you. Free Market at work.
Nobody is stifling your free speech... feel free to stand on a street corner and rant all you want, but the Constitution doesn't guarantee you a TV show, or the advertisers to fund it. That would be communist.
That is one hell of a well-written comment Sofia. The right wing argument, such as it is, well and truly destroyed. Brava!!
"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."
Eloquent and succinct!
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
the DEMOCRAT party, he has not lost his touch when t comes to projection, but he did master projection long ago. And he still uses the term democrat rther than democratic, and then he likes to whine when people call him names. He is incapable of mustering up any respect for his foes therfore he deserves none, that is why I call him fat boy rather than his real name.
These two pasty f***s have a lot of gaul calling others out for being destructive to American values, considering that neither one of these lazy assholes has ever done anything for their country.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
What I got is that the government is going to turn off the radio, and that the American people are too informed.
...and put them to hard labor. In Leavanworth. Along with their pals..
Screw Leavenworth. Put'em in Gitmo, if they love it so much.
As vile as their views may be, the 1st ammedment gives them the right to say them..so arresting them seems extreme
That being said, I do wonder if spouting their right wing hate speech on radio or television changes things a tad...
It's okay for a person to swear and cuss outside, but they can't do so on the radio or on tv- or face fines. Likewise, if people spew white supremacist venom like Beck and limbaugh, they have the right to do it on a street corner- but can they do so on radio and tv? What does the FCC say about this?
The best way we could silnce these right wingers is to persuade their spnsers to drop them...
Of course if they openly advocate violence- like assasinating Democrats-I'd then favor secret service paying them a visit...
..it never was. It's about turning people against a philosophy (telling the truth) that the Becks and the Limbaughs of the world find abhorrent. And the only to make them stop is to separate them from the rest of society. Preferably not able to come near a camera or a microphone or even a computer for the rest of their lives. Much like convicted child molesters can't come near any kid for the rest of their lives, they should not be given the tools to spew their hatred for..well, you get the picture.
In the context of wingnuts without thinking of Bill O'Reilly's tactic of bringing liberal guests on his show for the express purpose of belittling them. When they try to respond, he's all a-spittle, screaming and yelling for them to "shut up, shut up, SHUT UP. OK, that's it! cut off their microphone!"
It kind of leads me to question the sincerity of their principled defense of freedom of expression.
(/understatement)
"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."
These right wing vermin are enagaging in projection- When Republicans were in power, the reich wing did everything they could to enagage in ideological fascism and silence the left-and they are just projecting onto the left what they would do if they were still in power....
Plus far right zealots like Beck and limbaugh fail to realise many americans are sick and tired of their white supremacy and gosepel of perpetual hatred...
I fear this government, this administration, has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power overnight before anybody even gives it a second thought!
They already did that, pal. It's called winning an election.
The only effective weapon we have seems to be our purchasing power. We have achieved great progress in affecting Glen Beck's income, now it's time to challenge Rush.
Then distribute to the smaller stations, this is the key to the low cost for the DRUG ADDICT. Start going after the stations in your area and start going after the Auto manufacturers WE BAILED them out so pull the advertising, In your area ID all advertisers and Fox news support NOTHING these Morons do or advertise on remember this is about AMERICA (a little right wing rhetoric), Murdock is a AUSSIE, go after his affiliates as well. Watch the HATE MONGERS cry.
Remember (RNC) Racist Nazi Christian
watching the right wing nuts squirm for a change.
..how is my freedom under more of an attack now as opposed to eight years of w's dictatorship? When I couldn't question anything without being called an enemy. The day will come when these two will ooze out of their studios for the last time and what a great day that will be.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
And if the wing nuts keep following their advice, The whole party will be so stupid and insane we won't have to worry about them doing anything other then playing with themselves in public.
republicanism is a mental illness!
By putting this asshole on arnt you giving him "AIR" time. Stop giving these jerks time.
[This question of yours is falling into the spam territory. Stop it-Sitemonitor]
Why the left continues to give recognition to scum like Beck, Limbaugh and Billo is beyond me. For awhile it appeared as if Kieth Olbermann's sole purpose was to attack the moron Bill O'relley..
Even negative publicity is publicity
The right doesn't usually attack individual personalities on the left, but rather they go after the the left leaning networks or blogs- whereas left wingers go after the individuals on the right (Like O'Reilley slamming the network MSNBC or the blogs Media matters and the Daily Kos, whereas Olbermann targets O'Reilly and Beck as individuals..)...
But granted, most of us do slam FOX as a whole, which is justified...
I wonder sometimes if Beck is playing an act..he once compared himself to a carnival barker- the more offensive his rantings get, the more wingers join his audeince- as well as left wingers- because we on the left seem to be talking about Beck nonstop...
I think righties go out of their way to piss off the left, knowing the left will talk about them nonstop, and thus generate more publicity-so we play right into their hands...
Sa long as these assholes get air time they will get on the air. Don't go after them, go after the people who give them money. Stop buying there shit and tell them you will no longer buy what there selling as long as they give money to these assholes. How many people voted for Obama. If just 1/2 of them quit buying there shit, that should make a diffrence in there sales. Once the money stop comming in for there products I think they would pull there advertisements from there shows.
These guys and the other right wing crazies have to be called out for the lies and disinformation they project. They own most of the media and we have to fight back with what we have.
1] Ignore them and they will go away.
2] Expose them as liars, hypocrites and well, just plain ole mentally unbalanced.
I think #2 is a better option.
if these commercial mouthpieces are basically hinting that they want an overthrow of the gov't imagine what the far-right wackjobs of the militias are saying.
i can't believe what i'm hearing. i listened to rush on monday and it was all about death panels, on and on repeating lie after lie with passion of conviction. i just don't understand why there is such a market for propaganda that it's on every station in every market of the country. this shit has been killing this country since the early 90's.
it's the rovian tactic of attacking strengths.
healthcare for all = euthanasia ,
new civil service jobs to build infrastructure = obama's private army to take your guns
There is no 'free speech' that applies to radio and TV. Every minute, every second, of a broadcast is counted and priced. The station owners or their agents get to determine who says what on air. Because these are the public airways the FCC gets to say who the owners are by granting licenses (not ownership deeds) and the owners must abide by the terms and rules pertaining to those license agreements. Just like in any legally binding agreement.
There is no 'free speech' right that remotely applies to radio and TV. If you don't believe me and think there is some sort of constitutional radio and TV free speech right you can test it for yourself. Go to your local TV station and demand to be put on the air to exercise your right and clock how long it takes for them to call security to toss you out. Even these half-baked call-in shows use a five second delay and will drop kick you off the air if they don't like what you say.
There is no 'free speech' right in radio and TV. There is none for me, none for you, and none for Beck or Limbaugh and because they are in the radio and TV business they know it better than anyone. So, why are they saying something different? Easy! They're lying.
FCC doesn't cover cable, only traditional broadcast.
And commercial speech is largely in a state of flux, given more lee-way on cable, less than broadcast, and veering back and forth between the perceived public offense.
Some would say commercial speech as a distinct category came to an end in the early to mid 70's, and others would point to George Carlin's 7 Dirty Words.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It's always reliable. It's like watching Glenn Beck having an argument with the bathroom mirror.
"Because they are laying the ground for a horrible event that will be -- eh, what they're laying the ground for, anything from the right, they're -- some awful event -- and I fear this government, this administration, has so much framework already prepared that they will seize power overnight before anybody even gives it a second thought!"
Beck
Hmmm, I am just a wee bit confused. Is he talking about 9/11 here? Just wondering.....
"Your Honor, I never once said someone really should kill Barack Obama before he destroys our way of life. I am shocked, SHOCKED, that someone would infer some connection between my program and this recent national tragedy."
My concern is that in the end it will take an event like that, some horrible act of right wing terrorism to finally break the power these kinds of people have over their ignorant followers. An event that is so obviously caused by their hate that they can not dispute it .
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Capitalism is always going to override free speech. Glad to see Beck's sponsors bailing one right after the other.
And Rush is just pathetic. Anything and everything that comes out of that fat head of his is completely devoid of any logic.
When Rush and/or Beck whine of totalitarianism over free speech by the Obama Adm.
These two forget to mention they never voluteered to defend freedom of speech nor serve, defend, and protect America themselves.
They leave it up to others.
Never did Rush mind when the Bush Adm arrested opposing views simply printed on T-shirts at Bush political gatherings. Where were Rush and Beck's mouth then?
it is a lie.
This is not my father's America
Lets all mail our excrement to both Nazi's pecker head beck and the Drug Addict blimpbaugh. Even better is to dump it on them personally.
One other thing agreeing to agree to disagree is great but these HATE MONGERS have gone way to Far lets push for complete, I mean complete pulling of Sponsors and their affiliate programs and stations for FOX and the Drug Addict. Remember the Drug Addict issues sponsor ship by purchasing in bulk then spreading it out so hit the MIN Sponsors we the Tax Payer have bailed the Big Auto Makers out now lets hang these pricks and their Stations. Remember when you buy into American Enterprise Murdock is a Aussie so Hang the bastard start nailing his affiliates and their advertising.
a fatal flaw in Beck's nefarious plans. "Write this down" he says. This is what used to be called an AVI or avoid verbal instruction used when precise adherence is required. That's going to be problematic for his viewers.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I getcha.
There is such a delicious irony in Beck/Limbaugh claming that their free speech rights are being abridged.
Beck tries to claim that the government is stifling his speech when the government has taken no action whatsoever. The campaign to pressure Beck's advertisers to dump him is an entirely private, market-based campaign that has no connection whatever to the government. This is the private sector in full effect, and would likely be the kind of thing these clowns would celebrate -- if they weren't on the losing end of it. Beck and Limbaugh venerate the market always -- except when they don't.
This campaign is just like the boycotts that O'Reilly constantly calls for -- except targeted at a right wing blowhard.
"Rhetoric that whips up irrational fears among the public, that demonizes and dehumanizes and scapegoats -- that's irresponsible rhetoric. And we are calling the American Right on it."
Very good!
What has really offended me (all of their pitiful rant on display in this post offends me) is when rush says:
"I, uh, my first hour yesterday was chronicling how this man is systematically dismantling our ability to gather intelligence to protect ourselves against an attack. He is purposely using his Attorney General to make the United States the villain of the world."
rush, I hate to break it to you, not everyone in the world is enamored of the USA these days. WE are a Torture regime, state, what-have-you and we tortured people and we allowed elected leaders to rip up (figuratively, thankfully) the Constitution which WE all hold dear. The problem is you and your little buddy there didn't say or do a damn thing about it when w was President. Now, because a black man is in the White House, your party is out of power and out of ideas and obstructing good work done by good people, you're complaining and that is your right. You do NOT have the right to yell Fire in a crowded theatre (literally or figuratively) and inciting like-minded individuals to consider committing violent acts IS NOT ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR and if we can't get your bosses to eliminate your programs in order to end your hate speech one way, I'm afraid the people that pay the bills may be willing to put their money elsewhere. And, as to dismantling our ability to collect data, there are still many dedicated employees of the nation's security agencies that are offended by the actions of the last administration just the same way we are.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Beck says he's speaking to "Left, right, Democrat, Republican"
Right. More like "Teabaggers, Deathers, Birthers, Wingnuts, Religious nuts, right wing zealots and domestic terrorists and mouth breathing conservative zombies". Those are the only poeple he's speaking to and the only people swallowing his bullshit fearmongering lies.
Oxy Liimpnuts and Professor Beck. We had an election. Your ideas lost. We put up with your election theft which installed Chimp for 8 uears and a Rushthugliklan congress who enabled him for most of that time. So shut the fuck up or get out of the country, the Anerican democratic process, love it or leave it!!
Rush, you can start with getting the fuck out of New York like you promised. Stay on your conservative elite enclave of Palm Beach.
It's clear that *personal responsibility* is under attack.
who raised these tools?
Hopefully all the advertisers will abandon this on air asylum.
... will be televised!
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Bragging about their military contracts
Like on PBS.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I get it. All we have to do is go to Beck's building and while he talks we "out shout" him and brandish our loaded guns. That's Beckerhead styled "freedom of speech". It's what he does. He supports that!
Limbaugh, just pork the pig.
Loudmouth Billy
PS....Hey Flush...why don't you debate Ed Shultz? Chicken?
he just does not give a shit what he says. He gets payed to put out shit. the fux network is payed to put out shit just to get things fired up. Just turn off fox. Just quit giving them time on C & L.
Have these idiots not seen the clips of anti-boosh protesters being removed for nothing more than a peace symbol t-shirt?
Or Free-Speech Zones, or NSL's being served on bookstores and libraries, or Data Mining, or Phone Buggings without warrants, to using the DOJ against political enemies, to muzzling the scientists working for the Fed and their observations on Global Climate Change?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Do you have any links of the anti-boosh protesters handy?
Oxy Limpnuts: "We have a responsibility to be honest"
Bwah, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!
Actually, I think this is good news.
Bleck and Dush are independent operators who each have their own audience and their own earnings. The only reason to do a "crossover episode" like this is because the Right is scared of continuing to shrink, so they're essentially engaged in a PR stunt.
This is like those "Odd Couple" episodes where a real-life celebrity appears as themselves and Felix and Oscar gush over them for 23 minutes. Glenn is hoping Rush boosts his ratings and helps to keep him from losing any more advertisers... but more importantly, they're looking to protect the "Right" brand by working together.
However, these antics usually are only counter-productive. Having Rush appear on Glenn's show just makes them both look more like entertainers trying to keep a dying franchise going. They're the New Monkees.
this for the last few months. O'Reilly will have Beck on to argue their same points when there is no argument beecause they both agree but put their own spins on the subjects.
you're trying to inject logic into the discussion here.
To the Beck/Limbaugh audience, this crossover doesn't look like a stunt, or desperation. The people who listen to this stuff are truly off the rails. Seeing them circle the wagons like this probably fills them with more real fear. I know that to a normal person, the sight of two multimillionaires on national television, who broadcast collectively about ten hours a day, complaining that we are on the verge of a tolitarian state and deprived of free speech is absolutely comic - but to the believers, this is serious stuff.
They aren't desperate. They are trying to claim the win on healthcare. They think they have shifted the momentum. Either way, now, they win: either there is no healthcare reform, or it probably gets passed in reconciliation. Fifty one votes is fascism, in their eyes.
This isn't over. It isn't even close. These guys aren't getting desperate, and they aren't going away, and they aren't going to become moderate.
I really wish it were funny.....
You've been smoking unfiltered, Gauloises Brunes too?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"..horrible event...government sieze power.."
Hmmmm, now what recent event would give you an idea like that?
deebee
How big are the sweat stains under the right wing?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Beck and Blimpaugh are actually GAY brothers produced from their family incest.
Beck utters this and he doesn't BURST into flames?
Remember under Bush, to question him was to question America, and to say anything against Bush's actions was treason!
Why didn't Beck question the government when Bush was in office shredding the Costitution? After all, it's for all Americans.
It's like Rush is projecting the Shock Doctrine in reverse...oh wait, it's what Republicans do best...
Who does Rush think he's kidding? He wants to appear moderate in saying he DIDN'T want to say this, he doesn't want to criticize the president, but he's had no problem uttering his vitriol in the past. Such a hypocrite...
Sorry. Sorry sorry. I'm completely in sympathy, but can't resist pointing out that in the first sentence: "Glenn Beck seems to be feeling sorry for himself for having brought down a brickload of approbation--" ... "approbation" means approval. You probably mean "opprobrium", which means exactly what you'd want it to.
Also sorry if I'm duplicating someone else's post.
Carry on.
I was just going to point out that mistake too. I'm sure Neiwert would appreciate it.
Instead of attacking the messenger, why don't you deal with the allegation that this communist Van Jones, under the guise of "diversity" and "localism" wants to take a percentage of the profits of successful right wing talk radio stations and give them to PBS and other left wing radio station stations that historically, nobody listens to or supports? Chavez at least is more honest - he just shuts dissenting opionions down and puts on his own people that parrot they party line. I can't wait for the day that C&L will be tagged as the offical editorial outlet for the White House so make sure you don't criticize or question this administration in the meantime, otherwise that won't happen. OH for the good old days of "Free Speech", "Question Authority" and "Don't Trust Anyone Over 30".
..will you listen?
There are only two people I trust. One of them is me; the other one ain't you! See, I said all that for FREE as in Free Speech!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Glen Beck is a psychotic p*ssy. Don't the rethugs get sick of his (and Palin's) whining? If I were a rethug, which I will NEVER, ever be, I wouldn't want all these sore loser crybabies representing me.
What was it? The Democrats were the babies who couldn't stand up to the terrorists? These people can't even stand up to each other.
Glenn Beck is pushing violence, and it appears he wants it to happen quickly, with every fiber in his bloated body. He is after Obama and wants any of his crazy loons to try something, whether they succeed or not, and when fingers start pointing his way, he'll be the innocent martyr who predicted his free speech - and, therefore, everyones, freespeech is being taken away as "they" planned all along. On Monday, when this dangerous, sick person leaned into the camera and pronounced that "time was short and I know you feel it because I feel it, too" that is code for "Hurry up you crazies, make me right." His ego is so bruised by the success of Color of Change getting responsible sponsors to dump this maniac that he is now taking his hatred of Obama to a whole other level.
Secret Service - watch Obama's back carefully. Beck is pushing, pushing for something ominous to happen. Scary times
categorizing them as "descendants of the sons of Ham" (Ham evidently being some evil guy in the Bible). Then in more modern times, one of the Big Cheese Mormon Honchos had a different revelation from God and changed the church's official position on Blacks. However, Glenn Beck may personify the church's covert racism.
Glenn Beck is many levels of crazy, literally. He is trying to convince his audience that the nation is on the verge of a coup d etat by the Obama Administration. Literally. He warns of an Obama army spreading out, ready to exercise control. He warns of a national incident in which President Obama will use as an excuse to take over total control of power, suspending the Constitution. Remember when he claimed that he could not disprove that FEMA was setting up concentration camps? He really believes that we are on the road to a total dictatorship by President Obama, and that Obama is only waiting for something to happen to act. I can't believe people take this claptrap for serious.
For my money, I hope FOX keeps him, easier to keep track of the loons if they are all in one place.
ALEJCARO
I knew it wouldn't be long until they confused a boycott with an infringement on their freedom of speech.
Righties expect freedom of speech to mean they can say whatever the hell they want without any consequences or backlash. They couldn't be more wrong about that.
This is out of control! What can we do about these dangerous bastards? Can we just sit by and let them spout lies, propaganda and fear mongering until we see more political violence???
Here's what it comes down to Glenn:
You have the right to say anything you want.
You don't have the right to be paid for it.
That's the free market for ya!
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Rush is still taking pills, I see.
That all you can say about Glenn Beck is ad hominem attacks. The free speech issue he is talking about is the appointment of Mark Lloyd to the FCC as the new "diversity head". His plan is to make any broadcaster pay a fee equal to the cost of their total operating budget to the Government to be given to State run media outlets. This man also stated that he supported Hugo Chavez's take over of private media so that he could silence dissent. I don't care what side of the political spectrum you align yourself with, this is a serious affront to free speech. The boycotting of the Glenn Beck show is the least of his problems. He has one of the highest rated programs in his medium and Fox knows a cash cow when they see it and new advertisers are waiting in line to buy airtime.
But broadcast isn't cable, so is it worded that way?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Right now the focus is on Broadcast media but, his past statements would lead you to believe that he will go for Government control of all media.
I don't think 'ad hominem' means what you think it means.
me-oww!
ad hom·i·nem (hŏm'ə-něm', -nəm)
adj. Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason: Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives
-Dictionary.com
apparently you do not.
It's ok. We're very used to you people claiming a reasoned logical argument is ad hominem to avoid responsibility for the act[s].
It's lame, but I guess you guys haven't figured that out yet.
me-oww!
I have not seen a logical argument on this post yet. All I see are personal attacks. That is ad hominem! If you care to debate I would be more than willing to debate. I gave you the argument and you responded by questioning my knowledge of the English language. That is not debate.
claim ad hominem to avoid responsibility. Keep proving my point.
I'm sorry, but I don't waste my incredible powers on those with such weak troll fu as yours.
me-oww!
Obviously I am arguing with one. You claim to have incredible powers in what I assume is debating trolls. So debate me. I made the statement that the issue at hand was the appointment to the FCC of a man that wanted to silence dissent. You asked if I knew what ad hominem meant. I do not avoid responsibility for my statements. I take full acceptance of my statement. What is the position you wish to counter with or would you prefer to fall back on your childish attitude?
I see that you decided you would rather keep with your own kind. You spoke of debate and then ran off. I think you overestimate your "incredible powers". You stay in your safe zone where everyone thinks the same way you do so you will never have to think for yourself. That is mental laziness and is quite typical of your kind. You are so impressed with your superiority over us neanderthals that do not agree with you. Must be nice to bask in the warm glow of your collective smugness. I pity you when you wake up in the very near future and find out that your very freedom has been sold out to the highest bidder.
I am laughing at you BTW...
If my freedom id sold, it'll be your people that have done the selling.
me-oww!
So who is the Satanist?
Considering the Prince of Peace used LOVE
and the Prince of the Underworld used FEAR
WHAT do YOU think?
I call it projection of their sins onto others.
Stephen Colbert should sue the shit out of him for stealing his material
What I want to see this asshat do, is explain how what Obama is doing is totalitarian.
I've studied the rise and fall of the Soviet Union, as well as the politics of the People's Republic of China. Not to toot my own horn, but I think I have a good idea of what "totalitarianism" is. I'm not really seeing it here.
Oh wait, that's because it's not happening here...
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