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There have been some interesting developments in the bizarre and telling case of Shawna Forde, the Everett, WA, woman who led an offshoot unit of Minutemen who ran armed border patrols for patriotic "fun" and then decided to go "operational." They concocted a scheme to raid drug smugglers and take their money and drugs and use it to finance a border race war and "start a revolution against the government". They mistakenly chose the home of Raul Flores and his wife and two daughters, which had neither money nor drugs; first they shot the father in the head and wounded the mother, and then, while she pleaded for her life, they shot 9-year-old Brisenia in cold blood. (Her sister, fortunately, was sleeping over at a friend's.)

It seems the FBI got a heads-up about Forde's plans -- and did nothing about it, since the information was sketchy. But it also seems that Forde and Co. had a whole slate of violent home invasions ready to roll. From Kim Smith at the Arizona Star:

According to documents filed this week in Pima County Superior Court, two confidential informants for the FBI say they told agents in April 2009 that Forde was recruiting people to raid a house she believed was filled with illicit drugs, money and guns.

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The documents say Forde, 42, and others were on the verge of hitting additional targets when she, Jason Bush, 35, and Albert Gaxiola, 43, were arrested on June 12, 2009.

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Both men are described as active members of the border-defense movement who routinely camp on the border so they can spot illegal immigrants and report them to the U.S. Border Patrol.

One of them told investigators that he met Forde in October 2007 while on a mission outside Arivaca. He said that in April 2009, Forde called him, saying the other men she knew in the border-defense movement were "sissies," and she was impressed with his courage.

The informant says Forde knew rocket-propelled grenades, drugs and millions of dollars were being funneled into the U.S. through Arivaca and wanted him to help her protect the community.

Not wanting to get involved, the man told Forde to call another man.

The second man says Forde shared her intelligence with him several times in person, over the phone and by e-mail.

Once Forde made arrangements to meet with him, the second man said he deemed her serious and contacted his FBI handler, who instructed him to keep gathering information.

The two men say they and two other men met with Forde at an Aurora, Colo., truck stop in late April 2009, at which time Forde said she wanted them to force their way into an Arivaca house and get control of the occupants.

They said she told them a second team would then come in and gather up the drugs, money and weapons, which would be sold to help the Minutemen American Defense, an organization based in the state of Washington.

One of them relayed the information to the FBI a few days later. The other corroborated his account of the meeting. They were told to keep on gathering information.

Forde later called one of the men to ask if he could be in Arivaca within 18 hours, but he said he made excuses about why he couldn't. About 10 days later, they learned of the slayings.

The men said they immediately suspected Forde, suspicions they said were confirmed when Forde called an associate to help Bush, who had been shot in the leg.

Forde told their associate that Bush was shot while patrolling the desert, but they suspected Bush had really been shot during the home invasion, they told authorities.

On June 7, one of the informants told Forde in a conversation taped by the FBI that he and the other informant wouldn't be able to drive to Tucson for a few days. He also told her he didn't want to bring one of the other participants in their truck-stop meeting because he didn't trust him.

Forde replied that she did trust him and went on to say: "We can train him. We can start him on soft targets. Our hands are already dirty. We've got to know he can pull the trigger."

You can listen to the wounded mother's 911 call here:

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It's not as if Shawna Forde was a renegade Minuteman, either, though she did run an offshoot (which is how the majority of Minutemen are organizing these days, the large national organizations having gone kaput). Indeed, Forde served as a spokesperson for FAIR and was closely involved with Minutemen leader Jim Gilchrist right up to the time of her arrest.

The trial this fall is going to be intensely interesting -- and deeply revealing.

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ysbaddaden's picture

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Bitter Scribe's picture

These assholes talk themselves into murdering an innocent family, and the FBI just sits on its ass?

Buford's picture

It's not terrorism unless it's perpetrated by brown people from another country... everybody knows that!

Ferrofluid's picture

There were others from other states who helped her.

Old Billy's picture

Please put a warning in this post about the 911 call. It is emotionally devastating.

katenh's picture

macabre, I really wondered what the purpose is of putting it up? I'd have been more interested in hearing Forde talking to her informants about her plans.

But to listen to a suffering mother who just witnessed her husband and child murdered before her eyes...uh, no thanks, that's just tasteless.

Please have some respect for the family and take it down, or explain its relevance. Are people so daff here that they need to be reminded of how horrible such an experience might be? Or are there some who must be fed this for entertainment?

Please remove or enlighten.

bonsai pajamas's picture

2nd Amendment solutions?

DaveZ's picture

Shawna Forde was just a random, isolated incident. It wasn't a socialist plan to overtake America and deny God-fearing conservatives their freedom and guns.

Can O Whoopass's picture

is already an accessory to murder. Dr. Tiller's killer was riled up by Bill O'Reilly.

Terrible's picture

the church shooter who was inspired by O'Reilly and Hannity and the recent cop shooter inspired by Beck. This terrorism HAS to stop.

bonsai pajamas's picture

the House of Representatives' own "armed and dangerous" domestic terrorist, Michelle "Crazy Eyes" Bachman.

idiots keep listening to the Sharron Angles (2nd Amendment Solution) and Glenn Beck (Rise up! Rebel!) These bozos are inciting vigilante behavior and goading on the uneducated and unintelligent to commit these crimes of "patriotism" to protect their country from drugs and illegals and those scary black people.

Thank you Faux Noise.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

katenh's picture

Glenn Beck is doing it because he's getting paid a huge sum of money to keep the unintelligent, easily excited, easily distracted Americans from noticing how the man who pays Glenn Beck is stealing it out of American's pockets.

This entire country operates like a trio in the old pick-pocket scandel:

Distraction: One perp who distracts the target by talking to them or making a commotion that will get their attention.

Dupe: Us, the victim who has the property/money that the Perp wants.

Thief: The second perp who commits the actual crime by removing dupe's item from the dupe.

Media - Distraction
Us -- Dupe
Rupert Mudoch, General Electric...(add as you wish) -- the ones who fund the above at the public's expense (through tax breaks and loopholes and bribing governments to ignore or not institute regulations which stifle their operations).

oh really's picture

...than when they "adhere on [my] operation." WTF?

Yeah, I really feel a lot safer with these bozos "guarding" our borders. If I worked for the Border Patrol, I wouldn't want a bunch of armed yahoos running around anywhere near me -- and I'm talking about American yahoos, not Mexicans.

Shawna's a real piece of work -- the poster child for gun control.

adamwho's picture

Talking about drugs and killing people to start race wars sounds a lot like the Manson family.

rat618's picture

Let's see the wingnuts yell and scream when these perps get the death penalty. Timothy McVeigh is waiting to see them all.

Continuum's picture

The most interesting fact is how ineffective and purposefully lax the FBI has been.

Had this been some left wing group, the FBI would have raided the conspirators houses and locked them up. The FBI has done this numerous times with left wing anti-G8 summit, etc, Quakers, and any other number of peaceful groups.

But, even when given direct and timely information, the FBI fails to act.

David762's picture

Throughout the history of the FBI, it has always been the blunt heavy tool of the fascists to wage domestic war against socialists and other leftists, labor unions, peace protesters, minority rights activists, non-mainstream religious cults, and every other group of populist rabble-rousers.


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy

the perpetrators where white and the targeted victims where brown.

AmiBlue's picture

The Times* reports today that more bodies of illegal immigrants are being found in the desert. I doubt the militias are turning the interlopers over to ICE. Maybe to Sheriff Arpaio in a pinch, but mostly just mowing them down.

*http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/29/us/29border.html?_r=1&hp

The "coyotes" regularly abandon illegal immigrants in the desert, including those injured in the rough terrain -- the desert heat and four-legged predators do the rest.

While I make no excuses for either Sheriff Arpaio or civilian militants, your baseless accusations place you in the same category as Glenn Beck, Tom Tancredo, and the Tea Baggers. Here is a working link to the news article that you misquote ...

[ http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/29/us/29border... ]


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy

Isome's picture

Amiblue was speculating, but not misquoting. Though you may think her speculation was over the top or Beck-like, the fact remains that she didn't misquote the article.

David762's picture

I apologize to everyone reading this blog, and especially to Amiblue, regarding my mischaracterization of Amiblue's speculation as a misquote. And thank you, Isome, for bringing that error to my attention.

(Note: Well, at least I fixed the link to a factually horrific news item ... )

eom
David


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy

porkbarrel's picture

I'm pretty sure the acts described as being committed by Forde have not been proven yet in court. Describing them as if they have may be unwise. I haven't seen any of the evidence, but maybe you have and are that confident.

I wish they had actually raided a drug smuggler's house. Of course to have spared the poor family of this fate, but also because these goons probably would've been exterminated in a NY minute.

jmmartin's picture

All of these militia types, the John Birch Society, and so forth, seem to be coming out of the woodwork these days. I had thought the JBS dead. If anyone gives it legitimacy, they have not seen, or did not like, the late Stanley Kubrick's movie, "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb," in which a deranged general named Jack D. Ripper is plotting to drop nukes on Moscow and finds a military coup justified to stop communists from "sapping us of our precious bodily fluids." The Birch Society disgraced itself in an ill-advised attempt to convince Americans that the fluoridation of our drinking water was a plot by the USSR to sap us of our precious bodily fluids. For the time being, these deranged, dangerous, unamerican brown shirts pose no threat. But if they pool their efforts, we could be looking at a situation resembling the last days of the Weimar Republic.


"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez

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