http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOtC-xvmFJI

That it's time these anti-American fucktards left the country.

now, this is a guy who doesn't get what America is about.

This is just another reason why we can't allow the extreme right-wing religious zealots to gain control over our elected leaders, like they did with Bush and his neocon troops. The jack-booted religious thugs will be beating down our doors if we allow this to happen. We'll see the rebirth of the inquisition and the fall of humanity into a new dark age period.
It's fine with me if people want their religion. They can go to church and practice their religion all they want. Just keep it out of our government. If there is one thing that we have seen in our recent history, it's that religious zeal, left unchecked, leads to murderous violence. From the middle east to middle American, this has been proven to be true.
It's up to the rest of us people with intelligence to keep a close watch on loons like this guy, Bell. When they start fomenting rebellion and stockpiling weapons, it's time to Waco their asses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M_DHe-iozw

Well now there is a surprise. Bigots in Idaho. Next you will be telling me there are militia types, Freeman, and Posse Comitatus folks here in Montana. These asshats have been flocking to the northern Rockies for decades, drawn by the remote and inaccessible geography and the nearly lily-white population. While they have been pretty quiet for the last several year, I suspect they may well be stirring what with our new Islamofscistcommunistichiphop overlord taking office in about a month. Little Missy and the Lunk didn't help things by pandering to them during the election.

Snip - " He added that people are frustrated, "because the law does not recognize that people have to live, work, and eat while bureaucrats figure out whether the fish are threatened or not." > http://www.geocities.com/progpop/Samizdat.1.html

REMOVE THE LABELS

invite Bell to "ring" at White House radio days? I mean he doesn't agree with him but all views are welcome at the national table especially if it pisses off the base they think they don't need anymore.

As we saw during President Clinton's terms in office, we are going to see a resurgence of these so called "militias" once President-Elect Obama is sworn in to office. We have already seen inklings of it the past couple of months.

I would not be entirely surprised if we didn't have more Waco's and Ruby Ridge's to deal with in the next 4 years because these morons just can't come to grips that their world is changing.

Why not adopt a federal standard for civil unions that include all the rights currently in civil marriages. Then have just civil unions performed by the state. If people also want to "marry" by religious laws, they can do so in their respective churches/temples/synagogues or whatever their particular religion permits.

This would end the current war over who can marry according to what religious doctrine. It would be up to each religion to respect it's own laws regarding marriage without impinging on the rights of people who do not belong to that particular church or religion. I don't see why this should have anything to do with religion where federal civil rights and duties are concerned. Many countries recognize both civil unions and religious ones and transcribe the latter as having legal status with the former if the participants so desire.

I must away with myself, and meet friends at the pub for a round or five of pints!
Later peeps!

...for itself about the present climate of race hate in this nation. However after Obama's Presidential election win in November dumbass progressives gleefully came to this site proclaiming "the death of racism" in America.

To those idiots I say...fuck you!

"Idaho" Dismissing others' concerns, often will result in your own peril. If your curious? documentary: 1 of 5 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9-Ih4H70MM

civil rights; 1. The rights belonging to an individual by virtue of citizenship, especially the fundamental freedoms and privileges guaranteed by the 13th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. Constitution and by subsequent acts of Congress, including civil liberties, due process, equal protection of the laws, and freedom from discrimination.

Did this guy sleep through the "render unto caesar" passage in the bible or is he just too stupid to figure it out?

Yes.
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Christ, I worked on his bicycles when I lived in East Lansing. He said he was a 'heart doctor' but everyone at the shop would just say 'Yeah, tell us another story'. No one believed him.

He was a freak back then and I see that time hasn't been kind to his little mind. He's the only guy that I knew back then that shaved his whole entire body to help cut 'wind resistance'. Yeah Frosty. You freaked me out then and, well now? Yeah.

It's kinda freaky to have been in the company of a soon to be freak show all his own. I figured that he had gone gay and died of aids or been beaten to death with a tire pump or something. No such luck...

One of the guys that worked there, 'Bone', warned people to stay the hell away from him. That was all too easy...

I remember he went all ballistic because his sew up tires would leak. He had to have the 'real imported European ones' because the Asian ones were worthless.

Also as I remember, he said he was a bike racer and never won much. All show and no go? Whatever...

You got to realize who these people are. this Bell guy is a Larry Craig or Ted Haggard with black penis envy. I imagine he dreams of about 12 inches of anal penetration by a black penis while he reads his Bible and shouts Hallelujah, while doing Meth. they are all the same, closet gay Republicans with anal fixations and sex issues.
He should be laughed at a little and pitied a lot.

Dear Red States,

We've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California , Hawaii , Oregon , Washington , Minnesota , Wisconsin , Michigan , Illinois and all the Northeast. It may even include Florida and Ohio; they are seriously considering it. We've given them until Nov. 4th to decide.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country. Since we're dropping the middle states we're calling it United America, or simply the U.A.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood. You can take Toby Keith. We're keeping Bruce Springsteen and Billy Joel. You get WorldCom. We get Intel and Microsoft. You get Ole' Miss. We get Harvard and 85 percent of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama . We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms, and the highest concentration of pregnant unwed teenagers. Please be aware that the U.A. will be pro-choice and anti-war, and we're going to want all our citizens back from Iraq at once. If you need people to fight, ask your evangelicals. We do wish you success in Iraq , and hope that the WMDs turn up, really we do, but we're not willing to spend our resources in Bush's Quagmire. We'd rather spend it on taking care of sick people, and educating our children.

With the Blue States in hand, we will have firm control of 80 percent of the country's fresh water, more than 90 percent of the pineapple and lettuce, 92 percent of the nation's fresh fruit, 95 percent of America 's quality wines, 90 percent of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the U.S. low-sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools plus Stanford , Cal Tech and MIT. With the Red States, on the other hand, you will have to cope with 88 percent of all obese Americans (and their projected health care costs), 92 percent of all U.S. mosquitoes, nearly 100 percent of the tornadoes, 90 percent of the hurricanes, 99 percent of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100 percent of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University , Clemson and the University of Georgia. We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

Additionally, 38 percent of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62 percent believe life is sacred unless we're discussing the war, the death penalty or gun laws, 44 percent say that evolution is only a theory, 53 percent that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61 percent of you crazy Redies believe you are people with higher morals then we Bluies.

Finally, we're taking the good pot, too. You can have that dirt weed they grow in Mexico.

Peace out,
Blue States

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These people just need to be intimidated and harassed until they leave. nothing else works. And the more we simply shake our heads the worse the entire world becomes. Bullies do NOT go away. They need a bloody nose.

Right? That whole inclusion and reaching out thing? Where's David Duke? WHere are the neo-Nazis? SOMEbody needs to keep Warren company.

Better yet he looks old. Maybe he'll get sick and move on to hell.

Gods law trumps the constitution? Why do these people hate America?

Oh yeah, because they hate themselves. Hate is their normal state of mind.

As usual, the wing-nuts don't understand their own documents. Nowhere in the Bible is wife-beating recommended or commanded, and one prophet who was commanded to marry a whore was even forbidden to beat her!

Thus, wife-beating is unbiblical.

And no, we do not need another Middle-Eastern looter religion taking over this country, nor do we need their sacred documents substituted for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

That's what former VP candidate John Bell tried to do when he and Hugh Lawson White forced the Cherokees into a choice of treaty and relocation vs. genocide.

The irony is that the Bells got their start in politics as a result of a real and vicious witch-hunt against a female neighbor, in order to steal her plantation, which was endorsed by land thief Andrew Jackson, whose wife Rachel was related to the Bells. They are no more Christian than a starling is.

Idaho is where you go when you find that Utah isn’t conservative enough for you.

i am borrowing from alan dershowitz but this guy is one of those who needs to understand the Constitution and Declaration were not created to only protect citizens from kings and oligarchs but people like him too. people who think their choice of holy writ should be believed by everyone, eventually becoming the law of the land. dershowitz' argument is that we do not get our rights from God and this is not a christian nation. America as an ideal makes sense as it allows freedom of movement and thought, freedom to choose your god and belief without impinging on the free rights of others. and we learn collectively what is good and bad, good and evil through the living of history. we know already what happens when guys like bell are in charge or when one restrictive fantasy is forced onto a collective. it is evil for all but the leaders of these groups who get to occupy the head chair at the head table. what this shows is the deep education needed by a good percentage of our american population to understand the power of the Constitution comes from an agreement amongst free people based on what we have learned about life through millenia of living what is good, what is bad, what is right. bell is a very misinformed person misinforming others based on fear. one way to think of it is to take all the worlds religions and belief systems including indigenous systems,,,put them all together in a pile or room and say this is what the world believes, and this is protected in the united states. but you will not be able to force those who do not choose your belief system to live in a way which you have decided is appropriate for yourself. in answer to warren's call for homosexuals to grow up or 'be mature', what level of maturity and development is being portrayed which requires others to agree and live a favored dogma? from my perspective, if you believe in the bible as the infallible truth, so what? from my perspective these right wing fanatics must mentally and emotionally grow up.