Wingnut Wunderkind Jonathan Krohn seems like a natural phenomenon
Everyone is either amazed and surprised or quietly appalled by young Jonathan Krohn, the then-13-year-old (he turned 14 on Sunday) who wowed the folks at the CPAC convention this weekend with his precocious-wingnut routine. He is indeed a startlingly poised young man.
But honestly, it seemed perfectly natural to me. After all, conservative thought (as it were) has always reflected the way a 13-year-old would view the world: like a highly dualistic, light-and-darkness morality fable, filled with heroic patriots and defenders of freedom contending against the slithering forces of puling liberal evil. Just ask Jonah Goldberg.
I'd say the young man has a nice career at NRO just waiting for him. Though you never can tell for sure what happens when a kid like this eventually gets a little taste of real life, either. Sometimes very interesting things happen.
cuz he was on msnbc yesterday and his lips were a brighter red than the anchor lady who was definitely wearing lipstick...
anyone see that?
Yes I did! I could barely listen to him for looking at his lips. It was strange!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He's been hittin it hard.
Now, now. Leave him alone. He is just doing what his parents want him to do and say. He did no understand what the f..k he was saying.
He's either wearing a lot of lipstick,or else he just finished eating some type of red candy,whatever the reason, this kid is just plain old CREEPY!
it's teh kool-aid.
Strawberry no doubt.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
[Deleted. Disgustingly over the top. He's 14 years old. Site Monitor]
lipstick on a pig?
Five words: "He wants you , too, Malichi!!!!"
The true leader of the Republican Party was at last found.
"...and a child shall lead them..." Second coming, perhaps?
Does anyone find it amazing that the Thugs, nay not only the the Thuglies, but their mountainous fearless leader would find this kid 'amazing' whilst he pimps purely political bullshit, yet a crippled kid asking the SCHIP be extended garners only ridicule and scorn, from said mountain of flesh?
The Swift-Boating of Graeme Frost
Graeme Frost and the perils of Democrat poster child abuse Updated Warning! Malkin site
And the coup de grace:
Claiming he never attacked the Frosts, Limbaugh mimicked Graeme Frost and attacked Dems for "exploiting" family
Let's keep reminding people that these pricks are totally into the IOKIYAR meme. They can have kids speak on their behalf, but when the opposite side does it, it's exploitation and abuse and lying.
me-oww!
...on "Leave It to Beaver." You know who I mean, the slimy one.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Is this the GOP's attempt to reach the youth vote? I mean they got Micheal Steel for the black vote, Sarah Palin for the womens vote, now this? This kid is so out of touch he most likely eats his lunch alone in school cafeteria while listening to Rush Limbo on his Ipod.
You're on to something. He's home-schooled.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
until I read it later in the thread. He probally still eats his lunch alone, though. Maybe the GOP could let Bobby Jindal come over to play after he's done his homework.
Nah, let me go deaf the old-fashioned way, eating way too many oxys...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I always kinda like that character...because he wasn't so damn creepily "perfect" like the Cleavers were supposed to be.
of course...I haven't seen a LITB episode in nealry 30 years....so I don't remember how slimy Haskell was...
Actually before we beat the poor kid up for being deluded by his parents we should let him has his day. He could become the right's Ava. I love her at peacetakescourage. The right should be so lucky as to have a strong young articulate mouthpiece for their side.
maybe it'll wake the bastards up and they'll return to the statesmen of old and get away from Cheney's dark side.
don't hold your breath BobD...
Is a Ron Paul Libertarian/Republican??
It would be fun to watch a debate between "The Kid" and Ron Paul.
They'd most likely end up agreeing on everything which would most certainly make Steele and Limbaugh squirm.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
You gotta mean Eddy Haskill!
He was so painfully polite that the Cleaver adults saw through him but they had to be polite back. The eyes were rolling, however, so that the adults or otherwise sophisticated viewers understood the significance of that character.
And yes, it was the 1950's, so there were actually adults watching. The writers really had to be tongue-in-cheek.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
I believe you mean Eddie Haskell.
"That's a lovely dress Mrs. Cleaver" He seems just as sincere.
I forget his name.
This kid scares the hell out of me.
He's almost scarier than Limbaugh.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
"Good evening Mrs. Cleaver. Good evening Mr. Cleaver..."
"Hey, Beav?! Wanna go throw some stones through some windows??!"
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Or Larry, or one of Beaver's friends.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
just kidding;)
looks like lipstick to me...someone messing with him?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAHh9LS92i0
truly disgusting. Talking about liberals wanting power and conservatives protecting society from it...hello? Did he miss the last 8 years of his life like some brainwashed kid in a remote valley of Pakistan who is indoctrinated in a hate based and fact deficient ideology? Hmmmmm.
and sent to the middle east, he'll change his tone.
Every time a conservative uses the word "principle", they mean a one-way set of rules that don't apply when it is to their disadvantage.
"There ARE absolutes and there is no such thing as situational ethics.", biggest lie my Dad ever told me.
and then they wake up in a puddle.
the Republicans are having to turn to a 13 year old for answers?
Evet: the Republicans are having to turn to a 13 year old for answers?
Perfect bookend to Joe the Plumbbob. One's an adult who thinks like a child. The other is a child who articulates like an adult.
as Joe the Plumbbob...as the plumbbob actually DOES something!
...with their parents in the photos while black men hung from trees after a lynching.
This shit is taught. No child prodigy here.
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If this kid were more tan, maybe Limballs could "take him under his wing"...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
:^(
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
my high school debate team had a number of these kinds.
Always seemingly poised and intelligent. But it was clear and easy to see they never really thought for themselves. All you had to do is go off cue card or engage them emotionally in a debate and they would go off course and loose direction because they were myopic in their stance.
Interestingly enough a few of these guys have gone on (not grown up) to become corporate lawyers.
As the late, great Frank Zappa said "We are only in it for the money"
I am so impressed with his passion, poise, and clarity of thought. I don't agree with him, but he's really impressive. Look out Jindal!
BTW, I'm also struck by the absolutely juvenile and unproductive level of comments left here. They are completely mean spirited and unnecessary. That's why I rarely look at this site anymore. This used to be my favorite site, but I can't stand the low level of comments. It destroys the credibility of the site.
You're all worked up about a couple of comments, it's probably best you head off into the sunset. Personally, i didn't see anything 'productive' about yours either, so i don't know what you're REALLY upset about. Perhaps you wandered along and found some of our thoughts on one of this kid's heros, the bloviating, drug-addled, child-fucking gasbag, Gawdfatha Limpballs?
FB
99%
Get over yourself!
Ya need to get that skin a little thicker...not everyone plays by your nicey-nice rules of commenting.
What's amazing here is how fucked up this kid is! I would venture to say, although I don't know, is this kid's parents are wealthy and he probably goes to a private school and if he doesn't I bet he gets his clocked cleaned on a regular basis !You need to get back on your screwball, right wing crazies site!
Maybe his siblings beat him up, but I doubt it.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
He delivered a good speech, regardless of content. The republicans would have been better served to have used him instead of Jindal as the party response to the state of the union. Imagine the coverage that would have gotten.
I think some of his points are valid--the problem is conservatives do not even follow their own ideology. Small government? Respect for life? Those principles completely go against the Iraq war.
however, the day I look to a 13-year-old (who's a boy - read less mature than a girl) for advice or direction, call me crazy. I'm the kind of person that is creeped out by child actors, no matter how adult their poise and conversation appear to be they are still children.
He's a gimmick, like Sam the plummer and the reigning mental feather-weight of the north, nothing more. I'm sure he got a positive reaction or two early on as he spewed his act and being the well-adjusted 13, now 14-year-old that he was, he liked being praised by maladjusted adults, probably airport-frequenting, stall-visiting, toe-tapping, "uncle" types.
It's allright for me or anyone here to be repulsed by this creepy kid, but then again, I have a cool son with dreads who plays jazz guitar and writes his own music. I've let him know that he's free to be his own guy, even if, on his own, he decided to act like this kid. Surely you don't think that this kid found talk radio on his own? It's the rare apple that falls far from the tree.
Also, just the fact that he's speaking to CPAC as if he was actually addressing a group of real conservatives is amusing. They weren't really taking his speech to heart, they were just enjoying the fact that there was at least one young person who had bought into their crap, hope sprang eternal.
that presents itself through TV is aimed at children, and demands a child like mentality from adults.
I listened to him speak at CPAC and again yesterday. He's more about delivery than content. He only has about a dozen or so words which he manages to work into each sentence. He did say he was home schooled so that, in my opinion, says a lot.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
With proper training, many 13 year olds can recite talking points.
David Gregory of "Meet The Press" is a prime example of that....
Bush could, so why not a 13-year old.
Bush struggled quite hard with remembering the talking points.
Obviously the kid is bright, but his thought process has been muddied by what his parents choose to teach him. In this case, puberty could be the great equallizer. When the hormones start and that rebellious streak kicks in, his folks might be in for a rude awakening.
...parents, he'll completely change his tune. This child has been obviously brainwashed by his parents.
The kid is a professional actor. See my comment below at 7:00
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
If a real 13 year old boy came up to me trying to discuss politics, I'd stare at him for a minute, throw him a football and tell him to fuck off and get back to me in a few years. I'm old fashioned, children must earn the right to discuss adult orientated subject matter.
But I'd listen, then point out where they were wrong. And explain why they were wrong.
So when he grows up he doesn't realize his parents are full of shit about EVERYTHING.
So when he grows up he doesn't realize his parents are full of shit about EVERYTHING.
Never know who's reincarnating these days
That kid was on the Tom Hartmann show and get royally schooled. He's already learned the tried and true conservative tactic of changing the subject when backed into a corner.
Pfft...Tucker Carlson wannabe.
impressive.
not since "dumbo" has a young elephant shown so much potential.
somebody toss this kid a couple bags of peanuts.
Twenty bucks says that this kid turns into the political version of Marjoe Gortner.
I was thinking the same thing.
Although, from the footage I've seen of Gortner, he was even
creepier as a kid.
I've always thought that kids need to be kids. Being an adult is generally not a lot of fun, except for the alcohol and sex part.
"Conservative thought (as it were)", with "as it were" being the key phrase in the text. Considering the morons in attendence at the CPAC meet this past weekend, this rather creepy teenaged boy was by far the most sophisticated attendee there, imo.
Also, did the GOP & MSM reaction to him remind anyone else other than myself of the Twilight Zone episode in which (then) child actor Billy Mumy demanded that all adults think only happy thoughts lest they be metaphysically cast into the "cornfield"?
Oh my god! I cannot believe you said that because when I watched him at CPAC that episode came to my mind.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
OMG...that's just eerie...almost like a trip through oddness & obsolescence--(twilight Zone theme music plays in background).
/;-)
I just watched the Simpson's Halloween episode where they parody that episode. Lots of fun.
Maybe I missed something, but when he's talking about principals at CPAC... what were the freaking principals?
He's a perfect fit. Lots of flash... no substance, much like a second-tier porn star.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
This is what I thought of....but then again...I'm kinda crazy...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCiTlMrMAhU
*laughing
LuLu
That was pretty good.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
very funny stuff..
I still don't get how the conservatives or any GOPer can stand up and say this with a straight face after the last 8 years. We heard nary peep one about habeas corpus, or rendition, or all of the executive orders doing things like gutting the Presidential Papers Act. Really its a long list.
Perfect
that as he ages, he will evolve upward into a liberal.
most adults.
No Surprise here! Everybody knows that Reslugs breed hate into their offspring.
I have the same feeling about this kid as I do about the little girls who are entered into beauty contests by their mothers. The kid is being used now but what happens when he matures and doesn't have that cute little kid appeal? Which way will he turn when no one pays attention to him and who will he blame? It's a tricky road that his parents have allowed him to travel.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
of parents living vicariously through their children.
Anytime a parent starts pimping out their children, no matter the reason, I get up on my back legs--it is flatout WRONG, and ought to be stopped.
These are children, for God's sake!
I heard this kid was home schooled. He spews talking points like a trained parrot.I guess part of his home schooling was goose-stepping around the living room with Fox on the TV and Rush on the radio.
starts "attacking" this little kid that will add more fuel to the fire of course.
feels the need to have a 13 year old enunciate its priciples.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Rumor has it that young master Krohn is already a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
No doubt he was chosen to bring fresh ideas on conservatism to the Cretaceous Curmudgeons that slink about the hall ways of the Heritage.
Then again maybe they wish to drain the very essence of life from the young man before he attains puberty.
At any rate I hope the young man turns his efforts towards more enlightened pursuits before it is too late.
'Talk to the hand'
and it was very telling when Thom used logic, the kid was stumped. But his knee-jerk reaction to a lot of what Thom Hartmann had to say was to laugh and be dismissive. To hear that in a 13 year old, made me thing that Rush Limbaughs will be with us for a very long time.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
doll.
Pull the string on his back and he spews various "conservative" talking points.
He wrote a book!!!
He wrote a book!!!
OMG.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Poor Thom, having to debate a 13 year old "wunderkind" fascist-wannabe. Must have been a low point for his career.
He reminds me of the bible revival tents that would blow into town with the little kid preacher, who would perform great feats on the clueless flock, as the adults passed around the can for money.
diamondmc
I remember a bunch of years back there were a bunch of children preachers on tv. Whatever became of those kids? Were they trained by their parents to perform the way I suspect this child was trained?
My opinion is that when you put a child in an adult atmosphere on an adult stage speaking about adult subjects, you must expect he will be criticized in adult fashion.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The amazing Hit a Matic
It's obvious that Limp-Dicks young boyfriend lacked oxygen, for quite some time during birth and therefore being a moron turned to the Reslug party.
Spouted all the Southern Baptist, Republican lingo like a tent preacher. I went off to a real college, got a real education, saw the brainwash for what it was, burst out of the closet, washed my hands of fundamental religion and recognized that "individual responsibility" and "compassionate conservatism" have nothing to do with Christianity and all to do with "I got mine, screw you" and am now a fairly happy, fairly agnostic, out gay liberal.
Same thing for me...
Except for the closet part. ("Not that there's anything wrong with that.") Very hetero, jubilant Deist.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
But this kid will go to a college that's already picked out for him, and be the next leader of the Young Republicans, like Karl Rove was.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
probaly has a poster of Karl Rove next to his bed and a Rush Limbo action figure in his toybox.
Like a fat Oxy-filled Pez dispenser?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
What the fuck does it do?
Sit on it's ass and spew treasonous garbage whilst popping oxycontin and viagra?
Occasionally taking trips to the DR?
He must have heard how much "fun" those trips to the DR were from Denny Hastert....
I here it comes with a little brown doll that bends and wears just a grass skirt.
Hit the nail on the head. Republicans are truly BRAINWASHED. They are like zombies who cannot think for themselves, who laughingly and dismissively change the subject anytime they are faced with logic and reason, and who cannot and will not view the world in anything else than a simplistic and overly moralistic black-and-white "good vs. evil" way.
Of course, their viewpoint is pure, 100% projection.
anyone want to see what is really going on behind the curtain, google and utube Marjoe Gortner.... same weirdness going on here........
watch, at 18 he will become a radical left winger..........
"what ever it is, I'm against it. & even if you change it or condense it, I'm against it!".... marx
He wrote a book, I believe the name of it is Define Conservatism but for the life of me I cannot find it for sale on the web. I was trying to find out who published the book.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
parents should be ashamed of themselves. He hasn't formed those beliefs on his own, and no dose of reality is going to change his view. Instead of letting him him learn life lessons and make up his own mind as he got older, his parents apparently decided that they would tell him what to think and how to think about it. This is why we see so many die hard right wingers out there now. This is how they can completely ignore reality no matter what, it isn't something learned throughout life for them, it's indoctrination.
Personally, I am very careful about pushing my opinions about the world on my son. I want him to be able to make decisions about things from HIS experiences on his own, without preconceived notions.
and so should anyone who cheers for this kid. What does a 13 year old know about life at all? He may be getting paid for these appearances but he has no clue about finances, military service, foreign affairs, history, or buying his own food, clothes and other necessaries.
what so ever. Anything that this kid says about conservatism is either straight out of a book or someone else's mouth. In my opinion, political beliefs are formed through a persons experiences in the world and how those experiences effect them. At the age of 13 one does not have enough experience with the world by a long shot to have formed a set of political beliefs. I didn't care about taxes, until I started working. I didn't care about unemployment, until I lost my job or at least had someone close to me who did. Sure, I can teach my son the tenets of liberalism, but it doesn't mean shit until he finds out for HIMSELF if/why those tenets are important to him. Until then, he's just repeating what he has heard. Unfortunately, that's the problem with the right, there political beliefs are based on what others tell them to think.
Another example of child abuse by right-wingers.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
Errrrr.....I mean homeschooled.
All I can think of is this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUASiDg-kg4
LuLu
Wasn't this the party that ripped Obama during the election for using his kids? If I remember, they went all bat shit crazy that any parent would do that to their kids. These people really are sick human beings.
diamondmc
...to Sarah Palin.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
The mega-hypocritical Republicans have twisted reality again.
I guess having your children stand beside you on a stage borders on child abuse, but using another child to deliver a speech touting your poilitcal manifesto is.....is what?
This is interesting
"Johnathan has appeared on Broadway as Michael Banks in Mary Poppins. It is reported he had three on-stage call-backs. That’s a very big deal on Broadway. Other credits: John Darling in Peter Pan, and Scott in Dear Edwina, Young Cain in Children of Eden, Colin Cravin in the Secret Garden, as well as parts in The Wizard of Oz, Tom Sawyer, The Jungle Book, and Alice in Wonderland."
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Was this weekend just another performance...possibly paid?
His mom is a drama teacher and his dad is an engineer. Seems mom taught him how to act on the stage and behind a podium too.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
So this is just another role to play, another script to remember.
That would be my conclusion.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
How much money she got for pimping her son out?
This role isn't gonna do much for his acting career.
in "Liberal Hollywood".
Seems to be a bit of shoddily prepared stagecraft goin on at teh CPAC...
Figures!
HA!!!!
"Though you never can tell for sure what happens when a kid like this eventually gets a little taste of real life." - David -
The course correction will occur when he discovers he actually likes girls.
If that was even remotely true these piss ants would not have to tells us it at every turn, we would see it in their actions.
It's about protecting their rights to tell us what to do.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Why do I get the feeling that he's just reciting things from talking points instead of speaking from
his own knowledge or observations?
I get the idea he's learned everything like a
trained parrot does and he'll be very good as
a spin machine in his adult life.
Am I cynical or do others agree with these
observations?
but see the comment at 7:00...the kids an ACTOR...this was just another gig.
He's already a helluva lot better at parroting party rhetoric than David Gregory is!
it. Were looking at the next Sean Hannity.
lol!
you're right. It's just sad that this kid is put out there like this by his parents who have obviously coached him.
this kid reminds me of the two brothers in NC who would preach (at the top of their lungs btw) in front of public schools...totally ridiculous shit, I was like 12 or 14 when this happened.
I remember hating the parents for A)raising their kids to be morons.
and B)coaching their kids to preach fire and brimstone, proving to the world, that they're ALL morons.
his middle name is not A-D-O-L-F.
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common sense matters as much as truth
Can you get glaucoma from watching this?
Diabetes? Yes.
He's as impressive as a 14 year-old fire-and-brimstone preacher-brat to me, and about as relevant. Ever heard of any of these children after they became adults?
http://www.tangle.com/view_video.php?viewkey=...
(Apologies for the site itself.)
He's just like the kid from the Wonder Years, except he has no friends!
Marilyn Manson?
Sure he has friends, Rush, Sean, Billo and such.
I'll guarantee that Lard-Ass, Limp-Dick, took a very special and personal liking to the little boy.
He's a boy. He's not a young man. He was thirteen just a week ago. Don't confuse his mature eloquence with his childlike view of the world, which are features he shares with immature Republicans.
He's pretty shallow.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Needs to be on t shirts, bumper stickers and fridge magnets!
with this kid's skills. I would not push him like his parent's seem to be doing if his bio acting credits are accurate. And I would not applaud an organization that felt the need to showcase a 13 year old as the articulator of the organization's guiding principles. However....
I have browsed through all the comments and have found few that dealt with the substance of this kid's message. I have found a lot more vulgar attacks that remind me of Michelle Malkin. Those of you who engage in that ought to step back and reflect on what it says about you, and not the child you are impugning.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
There was no substance.
What were the principals that he kept talking about. His words were just eloquent meaningless talking points.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
to cover a book he may or may not have written that may or may not have been published. He said it dealt with four organizing princiiples behind conservatism. I have no argument with any or the prinicples, and if you want to make an argument that those are meaningless talking points, that is fine. I think the principles are fine ones, just nothing I have seen embodied in real world conservatives.
My problem is with people putting the organs of noted perverts in the kid's mouth and other choice comments.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
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