Wingnuts unhappy because CNN calls Shawna Forde's killer Minuteman gang 'extremists'
By David Neiwert Friday Jun 19, 2009 5:45am
Matthew Balan at Newsbusters is unhappy because a CNN chryon identified Shawna Forde's killer-Minuteman gang "extremists", while Rick Sanchez talked a bit about how Forde had been a player in the movement:
A chyron which accompanied a report on CNN’s Newsroom program on Wednesday about the arrest of a leader of an organization inspired by the Minuteman Project, referred to her and her accused accomplices as “extremists.” Despite qualifying how the largest Minuteman organization had distanced itself from the suspects, anchor Rick Sanchez questioned how she became a “player in the anti-immigration movement.”
OK, so if Balan doesn't want to call Forde's gang of thugs "extremists," what would he call this?
Accused ringleader Shawna Forde told her family in recent months that she had begun recruiting members of the Aryan Nations and that she planned to begin robbing drug-cartel leaders, her brother Merrill Metzger said Monday in a telephone interview from Redding, Calif.
"She was talking about starting a revolution against the United States government," he said.
... "She sat right here on my couch and told me that she was going to start an underground militia. This militia was going to start robbing drug-cartel dealers — rob them and steal their money or drugs," Metzger said.
... Investigators think the May 30 robbery was intended to be the first in a series of such attacks intended to fund the border-watch group and a new venture, O'Connor said. Forde planned on starting a business of helping free kidnap victims in other countries, he said.
Oh, and then they shot a 9-year-old girl and her father to death in cold blood.
And yes, Forde indeed was a player in the Minuteman movement, appearing on TV as a Minuteman spokesperson and onstage with Jim Gilchrist here in the Northwest.
What, exactly, does Balan think Sanchez should have reported?
Now, Sanchez never suggests that the larger Minuteman movement might be riddled with extremists, but that seems to be what Balan is accusing him of doing. Or at least sidling up too close to that proposition.
Well, tell ya what, Matthew: We'll gladly say it here. The Minuteman movement is and always has been an extremist movement, and so it is no surprise to see it devolve in its decaying phase into a radical and violent one.
Oh yes, and you know what else? It's a big moneymaking scam, too.
But I guess you're unhappy unless they're described as a big "neighborhood watch." Yeah, that fits 'em to a T, eh?
Here's what's actually noteworthy about all this: Unlike CNN, you'll never see this story reported on Fox. In fact, I haven't seen a single mention of this story on Fox TV. Gee, I wonder why that is. Well, no I don't.
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FUCK the wingnuts!
As far as I'm concerned, they are ENEMIES of the US, and of the PEOPLE!
You fascist fucks!
Get the fuck outta MY damn country! You ain't welcome!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytgWkI_hJzY
done without that one.
thinking the exact same thing. You summed it up very nicely.
:)
Like the OK City bombers, they've adopted an image of the revolution, against the existing government, which is the enemy in their badly warped view. Declaring war on our government isn't exactly moderate.
newsworthy.
When rightwingers start "revolting" who do they go after?
They target the weak like immigrants, minorities and KIDS!
Real brave. Come after some of us lefty veterans and see what happens!
Pardon moi?
Je ne comprend pas?
I don't swing that way.
Old ladies in church; female foreign exchange students in their dorm; security guards at the museum; etc.; etc. THOSE are their targets!! Weak cowardly scum is all they are!!
These cold blooded killers burglarized a home, then murdered two innocent people including a child, and the Right wing is preoccupied with terminology.
these racist child killers be called extremists, or worse, domestic terrorists.
They CAN'T be "child killers" because neither of the victims was a fetus.
As more and more gringo guns are used...
http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/...
Is that like {Edited} drugs?
And I like some of the facts in that clip. The atf says 90% of the guns are from the US? Not quite, almost 90 percent of the guns that are traced are from the US which is about 16% of the total guns seized, I just saw a news report about a anti-aircraft gun that was just seized, along with grenades, and rpgs. If you know of a gun store or gun show that has those let me know. My guess is that they either came in from South America or by boat from China and the former USSR or were stolen from weapons that were sold to the Mexican military or LEOs. What is it something like 10,000 defections from the military to the cartel? And a couple of thousand bonus if they bring their weapons along?
How about this, they keep the drugs and illegals on their side, and we'll keep the guns on ours? Sounds like a plan to me.
{Edited. Don't say that again. There will be no more warnings, SM}
Okay I won't use that term, but could you edit the offensive racist comment in the post I am replying to also? That is the only reason I used the term that was edited out. I took care of it for you in my post since you must of missed it, seeing as you don't allow racist terms.
The wingnuts are always unhappy about everything. Trying to please the wanking wingnuts has put this entire country into the toilet but it shows no signs of letting up. The wingnuts still get pissy and everybody and their dog quickly get into line to see how far they can contort themselves while kissing wingnut ass. It's old and it's disgusting.
FUCK the wingnuts!
Not with your d**k. ;)
Mayhap I should have said.
The wingnuts can go and cheney themselves?
:)
With the broken end of a broom stick.
Reminds me of Tommy Smothers with a glass of tomato juice:
It looks like tomato juice...
(Sniffs it)
It smells like tomato juice...
(Tastes it)
It tastes like tomato juice...
(Swallows half the cup)
It is tomato juice!
Too bad I don't like tomato juice...
These wingnuts are illegal immigrants. Get them out of this country.
I'm glad to see that CNN did cover this story.....and that damned Newsbuster guy makes some comment that because of left wing blogs like C&L and others, CNN "ran with this story." So what if CNN did the story because of C&L and other sites? It's a very newsworthy story. It should be covered by all major media regardless if C&L covered it or not. Didn't Faux News get all bent out of shape because they claimed the "mainstream" media didn't much cover the killing of Private Long?
And, yes, Shawna Forde and her group are extremists. Sanchez doesn't say all Minutemen are extremists, and in fact states that they are distancing themselves from Forde. But, considering the fact that she was the executive director of her group, doesn't that say something about a possibility of others in the Minutement have the same extremist views Forde does?
there are more than a few of the MinuteMen who are extremists....but I saw a documentary of sorts about the MinuteMen...and for the most part, they SEEMED like harmless, albeit clueless, mostly older people who love their country.
The doc was actually a segment of Penn&Tellers Bullshit...and it was pretty damn funny...I'll see if I can't get a link.
Ah yes...good ol youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBN0trSE3c&fe...
this is 2 of 3...the whole segment is worth checking out though...
Penn Gillette was right in the thick of it.
He's really a dick, you know. Oh, and a libertarian, so he says.
but he does make some good points in that segment.
I'm sure there are quite a few minutemen who are extremists....and in some of the videos of Forde, she seemed harmless, if not misguided and clueless. Look how she really is like.
I don't know if I trust Penn. I think I saw him on Beck's show a few weeks ago.
Aw man...on becks stupid show...ok...Penn's credibility just weny WAAAAAY down...
Got a link?
I'm not sure if this is what I saw, but here is one appearance, where Penn is whooping it up with the idiot dunce:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSohi9pocc8
Just google, or go to YouTube, and type in penn gillette and glenn beck....it appears he's made at least one other appearance.
dirty now...thanks for pointin that out to me General...
No problem, LNM...I forgive you. Just be sure to take a long hot shower to wash the filth from your body.
and I'll use extra strength degreaser too...
Here's a video of the Minutemen in less varnished state.
I remember that posting....these guys are scary and dangerous, full of hate. That Newsbuster guy can go take a flying leap...
Yeah THAT guy's definitely an extremist nutjob...
..for murder, they need to add "hate crime" to the list. When they find her guilty, the judge may have a problem with the sentence because they can't give her a harsh enough punishment for what she did.
And of course, don't you know, her attorneys will try every trick in the book to deflect her culpability to this crime and she, brave patriot she is, will not assume responsibility for her actions.
Shawna Forde = EXTREMIST, wingnut, criminal everything but a patriot.
I think they ought to send her to a Mexican prison.
I followed the link. Balan is the only one to whom this post applies
so why is the headline plural?
I read Balan's article, the meat of which was quoted directly here. I found no anger, but perhaps I am mistaken. It did imply CNN covered the story because it was taking its lead from "leftist" blogs like C&L. Compared to stuff bandied about here I found the whole thing rather milquetoast.
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just don't acknowledge them. Do not talk to them. Do not even give them the time of day.
Eventually they will go away, or will perish in some freak circle jerk accident. These right wingers are into some freaky sh*t, so if you leave them alone... it is guaranteed to degenerate into something weird, awful, and utterly destructive.
by acknowledging you. My bad...
I hope you don't put it on the top ten list of your awkward moments that you keep.
... your cries for attention are not really that awkward as they are sad. LOL.
I didn't want to link to the other wingnuts who are touting this line of attack.
... he's here to make sure the name and honor of wingnuts are not soiled.
I still found Balan's piece, well, kind of banal.
and see what they have to say. talk about covering up a story
Well, it's painfully obvious that Balan is part of the cabal over at Newsbusters who are unhappy about CNN's reporting......hence, the plural headline!
It's happened throughout history, and America is a very young country. Every country on this planet, except for this one, has gone through a period where the majority of people have risen up and said...enough.
Not the extremists...on either side of the spectrum, but the common working man and woman who finally reaches a point where they've taken enough. Where they've taken enough from at best ineffective government that does not cater to the needs of all citizens to, at worst, oppressive governments who exploit the public to drain their pockets to meet the ends of the elites. When they've taken enough from governments that allow extremist minorities to endanger the public good with their calls to and acts of violence with not only no response from government, but are actually enabled by those who seek to gain from the violence.
It's happened before, it will happen again. Then enablling asshats like Matt Balan will find themselves on the wrong end of the hanging rope.
I hope I live long enough to see it.
Wingnuts prefer the term "enthusiasts".
Sometimes I really wonder if these people have some kind of mental problem.
How could a sane person categorize someone like, say, Bill Maher as an extremist, but not Shawna Forde? All politics aside, it just defies logic.
to fund Minute Men?
Kind of like a spin off of what Reagan and Bush Sr did with Iran Contra?
.."..botched home invasion.." A Botched Home Invasion? This was murder plain and simple maybe as a result of a home invasion but murder none-the-less.
then they should stop acting like "extremists." Have these degenerates got no sense of decency?
A 9 yr old killed in cold blood, and the right wing is worried about how that makes them look? Talk about wanting to have it both ways.
I am presently reading "Idiot America" a book by a Boston Globe writer. This is just one more example of how the media feel that we must voice both sides of every event in the interest of "fairness". These people were extremists. Just because there is a small minority of people in this country who don't agree with that doesn't make it a valid stand that needs to be aired and debated. These folks weren't just extremists, they were extremists who happened to be criminals. That's not a first in this world. And the crazies on the right know that as well....just looking for another way to get their wacky messarge out there.....with the full cooperation of cable news....as usual.
"Police say that Forde planned the killing of the little girl and her father to steal drugs and money, and make it look like it was the work of a drug cartel.”
Did they not expect the Mother to be home?
Without reviewing the 911 call, I thought I heard something about planting a gun?
Were they attempting to frame the Mother, by staging a drug deal gone awry?
If the cops stated... "Forde planned the killing of the little girl and her father"(premeditatedly). Did they plan to kill the Mom and the cops just left her out of their statement? I would think they'd of planned on killing her as well? Interesting
They planned to kill the entire family and leave no witnesses. There was another daughter who was away on a sleepover as well.
Now this has no bearing on nothing but the TRUTH.
And I've not seen it stated elsewhere,
AT APPROXIMATELY 21 SECONDS INTO THE 911 CALL...
THE MOTHER STATED THAT HER DAUGHTER WAS
10 YEARS OLD.
Not 9, as I've seen reported.For factual and accuracy purposes only.
PS. That 911 operator was outstanding!
and I'll say it again:
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
I remember when I first said that at the start of the Iraq occupation when the shit hit the fan, and I was booed out of just about every blog or forum there was. Except here. You guys were a little bit more tolerant.
If that IS indeed your REAL name!
We'll have none of your pesky logic in here!
;)
we would be greeted with candies and flowers. Then I watched the huge crowds trying to knock down Saddam's statue. There must have been at least 200 people in that huge crowd. I knew then that there would be resistance.
Maybe we should head down Statuary Hall and topple the statue of Reagan.
Someday
I'll fling the poo.
ThunderMonkey!
what can we do to heap some long overdue abuse your way?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYxvVe9y5NQ&fe...
Who gave weapons to Iran. Good one, Ollie. We need more Freedom Fighters like you. Do time as a traitor? Naw. Here, have your own talk show.
"Extremists" is probably the absolute kindest word that could be applied.
Right Wing-Nut terrorists and extremists can't handle the truth.
and postedShawna Forde in search. It came up with the 911 tape released and mentioned her as one of three people who robbed and shot this family. That was the only reference to her on the site. There was no mention of her prior affiliations or noteriety at all. They made her out to be just one of three killers.
You mean Fox didn't try to say that she was an illegal Mexican immigrant?
a leftist terrorist group now.
oppose the application of the death-penalty in this case?
This is one of the best pieces on this site lately and should have been the story CNN and the MSM should have done.
Keep the substance and investigative work up and this site may actually become relevant.
What have i been hearing about a big protest in Aug.?
Foist I've heard of it.
He might be a troll trying to sucker us into going to a clandestine tea-bagging party.
Or a tea-time Klan party.
but still...you're right...can't be too careful these days...damn teabaggers are everywhere...
Try adopting a wider stance.
Single payer protest against private for profit health care.
Can't do it on the 4th, we will be too busy celebrating our freedoms.
But I thought we lost our "freedoms"....saw that on the "internets."
we gave them away because them turrists hated us for our freedoms...
Problem solved!
Heckuva job bushy!
Yesterday's quote from Bushy....
"I told you I'm not going to criticize my successor," he said. "I'll just tell you that there are people at Gitmo that will kill American people at a drop of a hat and I don't believe that -- persuasion isn't going to work. Therapy isn't going to cause terrorists to change their mind."
Them durned turrists!
their freedom and ours he kept us safe for the next seven years. Unless you got sent to Iraq of Afghanistan. Repeatedly.
IF any of these people had been tried in a court of law and PROVEN to have killed American people at the drop of a hat. See, it's that bothersome "trial" thing that he just doesen't quite grasp.
boosh certainly isn't changing his mind
Does that make him a terrorist?
shawna forde's last air flight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_GJkKMPHxw
I love "Airplane." Too bad David Zucker became a conservative Repuglican.
My family loves movies and we buy lots of them because we don't have cable. I won't ever buy any of the Airplane series because of Zucker.
Yeah. Remember "An American Carol"? Sunk without a trace.
"An American Carol" only stunk without a trace because Bill O'Really made a cameo appearance in it!
I'm really disappointed that I didn't go and see that wonderful right wing movie (not!)
He seemed quite sane then, and when I read about his role in American Carol and some of his wacko statements, I was concerned that he had gone off the deep end and dementia had taken its toll.
Maybe the same happened to Zucker?
A bunch of people went coocoo in the head after 9/11.
Like Dennis Miller.
And, like Dick Cheney and George Bush.....oh, wait. They've been coocoo their entire lives!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRzD5lwAOVU
Just another "bad apple".
The right-wing sure does have a lot of solo bad-apples, don't they?
... and soon we're talking about an Orchard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKAW96N-Vms&fe...
That was a wonderful article on The American Prospect. It would appear that they respect no laws, or even each other.
I must admit that I'm fascinated by Mr. Campbell, what possesses someone to take out a loan against their home and give the money to an organization like that? No wonder that the Minutemen are resorting to tawdry crimes like robbing drug dealers, but then again, in their warped minds, I'm sure that they feel that they are actually doing society a service.
HE'S the extremist, right?
Saving lives and making money
as God intended.
From The Daily Beast - Reihan Salam
...During a fascinating live chat with readers of The Washington Post, Beck addressed the question of extremist violence a number of times. One reader asked Beck point blank if he, like many of the commenters on his Web site, advocated a violent revolution. Beck condemned violence, and said that "we need to model ourselves after Martin Luther King and Gandhi."...
But suggesting Americans ought to have universal healthcare IS extreme.
What kind of messed up country is this?
Their beliefs are right in line with other mainstream Cons.
Why does that name sound sooooo familiar??
http://www.splcenter.org/legal/docket/files.j...
I remember it clearly because I live in Portland.
Boo Freaking Hoo.
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