Bernie Sanders prepared to introduce public option amendment
Senator Bernie Sanders, in a brief interview in the Capitol just now, confirmed to me that he’s willing to commit to introducing an amendment that would add the public option to the Senate bill’s reconciliation fix.
This is important, because as far fetched as this seems, if this amendment is introduced, a vote on it would be very hard for the Senate Dem leadership to block. The only thing that could stop it from happening, according to Senate expert Robert Dove, is for the parliamentarian to rule that it’s not germane to the Senate bill somehow — something that seems unlikely...read on
As Adam Green is launching another initiative for the PCCC, we know the House doesn't trust the Senate at all, but the process seems to finally be winding down.
Ryan Grim reports that the public option is still viable, but he says it's a matter of will and not votes.
The public option faces its last stand. With more than 40 senators publicly willing to vote for a health care reform reconciliation package that includes the option, the opportunity to reinsert it into the final bill has never been greater, though the battle is nearly over without having been fought.
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That balance of power gives House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) extraordinary leverage of a historical nature. Pelosi, however, has yet to concede in negotiations that it is the obligation of the House to go first. And the deal that is being reached is driven largely by the White House. But both the Senate and the White House need Pelosi. And the House, of course, has already passed a health care bill with a public option.
If the House does move first, the Senate would essentially face an up-or-down vote on whatever Pelosi sends over. Durbin was asked by HuffPost if he would whip a reconciliation package from the House that included a public option. An analysis of past statements and positions taken by members of the Democratic caucus indicates that there could plausibly be 53 votes for a public option and perhaps several more.
Durbin, in response to the question, said at first that it was hypothetical, but then answered, "I think there will come a time when we reach agreement on what the reconciliation package includes, with the understanding that any changes in the House or Senate could slow down or stop the process."
So whatever comes from the House, that's what you will whip?
"That's basically it," he said. "I hope that what comes from the House is what we agree on going into this debate."
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UPDATE: The news that the Senate parliamentarian told Senate Republicans that the bill must become law before any amendments can be made through reconciliation alters the equation if true. The House, however, could still pass the Senate bill into law and then send the Senate a reconciliation fix with a public option. The Senate could torpedo that legislation without concern that no reform package at all would get passed, giving the Senate added leverage. The underlying dynamic, however, remains unchanged: In the next few days, as the White House and congressional leaders meet to hash out the way forward, the votes appear to exist to include a public option. It's only a matter of will.
It appears that Dick Durbin is not going to risk the entire bill because of the public option.
Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) acknowledged Wednesday that liberals may be asked to oppose any amendment, including one creating a public option, to ensure a smooth ride for the bill. “We have to tell people, ‘You just have to swallow hard’ and say that putting an amendment on this is either going to stop it or slow it down, and we just can’t let it happen,” Durbin, who supports a public option, told reporters. “We have to move this forward. We know the Republicans are likely to offer a lot of amendments, and some of them may be appealing to Democrats, but we have to urge them to stick with the bill.”
The PCCC is running a campaign against Durbin at this time and asking members of the Senate to not turn their back on it.




..for Senator Sanders. If the Senate passes it, I'll have a lot more respect for the Senators that vote for it.
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Senator Dick Durbin wouldn't fart without getting permission from former co-Illinois Senator and now President Obama. He'd be politically dead here in Illinois if he didn't go lockstep with with the Prez.
Has government healthcare for his family and his wife and daughter have been in a car accident, and his wife broke her back and neck.
durbin is the other leiberman. When the President wanted to torpedo the buy in program he called in joe and took in the favor. The President is the one who saved leiberman's chairmanship after the election. joe gave the President cover this summer when he torpedoed the PO.
There are enough dems who are bought off to sink this.
It would totally undo all for the deals the President cut with Pharma and the insurance companies, it ain't gonna happen.
Some change...
Now, according to this article, we have Rep. Louise Slaughter attempting to craft some new "rule" that will cause the Senate bill to pass the House WITHOUT A VOTE as the rule will "deem that the bill was already passed" or some such nonsense. Would appreciate it if everyone would read this and explain WTF is going on??:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blo...
And also I'm hearing word that Harry Reid has inserted a "Poison Pill" into the senate bill around page 1000 that says neither the House nor the Senate can repeal any HCR bill that is passed for ten years".
Here we have the Republican leadership threatening to begin repealing the bill the second it's passed, yet if Reid has inserted the above language into the bill they would not be allowed to repeal it!
Oh, the machinations of it all??!!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
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Republicans Used Same Tactic
Hope this helps, I sure learned about it researching it.
Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.
but I'm still wanting to see single payer for you folks... and get those greedy insurance companies out of the game
People need to understand that ALL Americans will NOT BE ELIGIBLE to bypass the for-profit insurance companies and buy into a public option!!!
It will only be available to about 6 million Americans!
But we don't hear anyone who supports it saying as much do we???
Some senator/house member should get on camera and explain exactly WHAT the public option is and WHO will be allowed to sign up for it.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
will be not be Public Option Deluxe or even Public Option Robust, byt Public Option Lite?
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And I'm afraid too many people who aren't really paying attention are going to feel like the progressive wing of the Democratic party has actually "won" something with it.
I am cynical enough to believe that NOTHING will pass in Congress that is not beneficial to corporate America and that even if there is a Public Option that it will be designed to fail so years down the road it can be said that "public plans don't work."
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
But a Senate version of Grayson's Medicare Buy-in for All sounds much better.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
the right is framing this as between the free market and socialism, would that it were. what is really is, is the difference between power and powerlessness, between privilege and restriction; but this is not being debated in the open, because the democrats are not socialists, even though that is the issue at hand.
whether or not the people of this country actually have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; or whether they have the right to be ground under the heel of an unjust economic sytem, this is the issue at hand, no matter who wants to admit it.
the republicans are exactly right when they say that citizens have no "right" to health care, from the point of view of power and privilege. the powerless, who are restricted in every aspect of their lives simply by living in this country, may have another view.
the republicans are at least not confused in their view, despite their shifting rationales; the left not so much, i am afraid the left has yet to realize, and the right neither, the full import of john donne's words
"All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated...As therefore the bell that rings to a sermon, calls not upon the preacher only, but upon the congregation to come: so this bell calls us all: but how much more me, who am brought so near the door by this sickness....No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
what the United States Senate would function like if it contained 100 Senators of Bernie Sanders ability?
Just think if only 60 were as smart as this man. It would be a truly superlative government at work for the American people. Few Democrats are as smart about policy and as equally progressive as this guy. I've heard him described as both a "socialist" and an "independent". I just call him brilliant. VT has two great Senators
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I've watched the voting in the House and Senate for years on C-SPAN, and the Democrats always find a way to stop progressive ideas from coming to floor. Mark my words, the amendment will either be withdrawn by Sanders or else it will be disallowed on procedural grounds.
Bernie Sanders is one of a very few in DC that I respect , he is truly a good man .
"This is important, because as far fetched as this seems, if this amendment is introduced, a vote on it would be very hard for the Senate Dem leadership to block."
But I thought it was the REPUBLICANS who were hostile to the public option and wanted to block it! That's what I keep reading in here. So it finally comes out that the REAL problem is with the DEMOCRATS and NOT the REPUBLICANS.
Methinks that a bunch of people owe the Republicans a humongous apology.
Me thinks you should rethink what you just said. Being a republican I know its hard to do sometimes, but try it. How many republicans are going to vote for the health bill so it may support millions others and lower the cost of insurance for every American? None...
I can't believe how Un-American the repubs are.
That's some kind of logic " Iowa " . You are verifying the fact that people who support Republicans are ignorant and have very dim bulbs , not that any more verification was needed .
That it's the Corporatist Party (consisting of the majority of both Republicans and Democrats) that is blocking the Public Option. We must clearly identify what we are dealing with here. It is not a Democrat (wolf in sheep's clothing) nor a Republican (naked wolf). They are both wolves. They are owned by their moneyed masters... and that is not us.
is so poised to vote anti-incumbant in the next few election cycles.
Gutless Dick Durbin has already instructed democrats not to include any amendment which include a public option.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/We-Have-51-S...
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