President Obama to Eric Cantor: We could make food and drugs cheaper but we don't want to kill people
Eric Cantor wanks away about the 2000 page bill and complains that some people might have to change coverage, the usual government interference with big business stuff and whatnot. Obama called him out on his "props" mentality while trying to discuss health care and the proper role of government oversight. Democrats have done a horrible job on explaining government's role in our lives can be a great thing instead of the republican line that government is the problem.
Obama: We could set up a system where food was cheaper than it is right now if we just eliminated meat inspectors, and we eliminated any regulations on how food is distributed and how it's stored. I'll bet in terms of drug prices we would definitely reduce prescription drug prices if we didn't have a drug administration that makes sure that we test the drugs so that they don't kill us, but we don't do that.
We make some decisions to protect consumers in every aspect of our lives.
Under Republicans, all safety measures and regulations of any kind only stifle the free market capitalism that they cherish. The people harmed along the way are just collateral damage.
My brain hurts after watching that clip. That's why I have to go watch the trailer for 1986's "Never Too Young to Die," with John Stamos and Gene Simmons. http://www.******/dvtNyb
Better now.
for President, I can't believe I thought this chump was going to change anything. He sounds weak and condescending, believe me this is going to make the right wing hate him even more.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have." Believe me people that is what is coming to us, these batards want us totally dependent on them. When we are they will really let us have it.
that quote was gerald ford from his address to a joint session of the congress, August 12, 1974, not thomas jefferson
"Whether we like it or not, the American wage earner and the American housewife are a lot better economists than most economists care to admit. They know that a government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?p...
Cantor's idea is to have business feed you whatever they would like to as long as business can make a larger profit margin. Do not forget that it was really the passing of so many deregulation laws under Bush that nearly destroyed the United States in 2007.
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Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
him????
please
cantor needed to be lectured
and so do you
Cantor really is in a class all by himself. A whiny, slimy, little double dealing, back stabbing, son of a bitch. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. He is the very definition of a bastard.
I don't believe Cantor's class is as small as you suggest. :)
Makes me long for the less-offensive looking Noxin, Newt, Reagan, bush1.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
..but never does and never will.
I understand what the president is trying to do and it's going to ruin him.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Cantor resembles one of the people in the hit squad pictures that Dubai put out.
....the hit squad.
www.warincontext.org for info on Payoneer's CEO, elite Israeli combat unit commander Yuval Tal who appeared on FOX NEWS 2007 during Lebonon war.
whether or not Cantor even understood the Presidents response.
when Cantor and the rest of the black-helicopter neocons start calling for the deregulation of the food and drug industries. That's a lot of profit being wasted on safety, and it's big government too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1jB7RBGVGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5TJApnJ8X8&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Time smack the old McCain again.
"we would definitely reduce prescription drug prices if we didn't have a drug administration that makes sure that we test the drugs so that they don't kill us" -- Pres O
the problem is that we have the fda but Rx drugs still kill people.
the bipartisan drive to fill top regulatory positions with industry flacks has come back to bite us in the ass. and it leads to the rightwing meme that the govt is not up to the job to regulate, really, anything. now, this isn't true--at all. but, thanks to decades of regulatory shenanigans, this comment by obama could be used against him by the GOP and corporo-dems.
That's what I felt. Our food distribution and safety system is flawed. I know nothing is perfect. But there are some severe problems with inspections, what we allow in our food supply.
One of the key factors of why food is so expensive? Oil. The way we grow food creates a logistical nightmare that has far reaching consequences.
As far as the FDA and prescription drugs. That is a horrible example. Our drug industry has so many dangerous, approved, over-prescribed RX drugs that it should never be used as a model or an example of something that works well.
these guys may be able to handle it: http://www.ul.com/global/eng/pages/
With a much lower price tag too.
UL is a very respectable group.
I read a letter by an engineer with UL labs that had a personal role in certifying the steel that went into the construction of the WTC. You can guess what he had to say about steel I-Beam trusses softening in and 800 degree fire.
it sure is, by design, in order to maximize profit
mmmm, feces-covered, irradiated animal parts *drooool*
Check out this article samson-
Kraft Foods bribed by SK foods to use rotten, moldy tomatoes in their products.
This is what happens when you let the majority of food consumed come from one supplier. There is so much money and volume involved, humans will be humans and when faced with the opportunity to earn some extra cash, few, or not enough will be able to resist.
This would be less likely to happen at a small scale plant because there is not enough incentive to cut corners like that.
Another example of "too big" burning us, not reducing costs.
oof, effin' nasty
thanks for the article, i hadn't read that before...
The new ketchup.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
the coffee on my keyboard is your fault
:)
Shit you guys we solved a mystery. Now we know where Heinz got their idea for green Ketchup.
was my idea...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
you and fastfeat are the mystery solvers
The Mirth Busters?
penicillin!!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Not to mention, developing tastes for produce out-of-season (grapes and peaches in February, for example). Not to knock our friends in Chile and elsewhere, but can we really afford to sustain this sort of system?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Exactly fastfeat. I didn't realize the problem of logistics (Edit:until recently, dragging lettuce to California from Texas for no apparent reason, importing grapes from Chile to California because we can't go with out them for a few months.
We'd be better off if the Chileans just went back to growing blow
just to get them into the country as well...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
You're giving me ideas...
they'd put it into grapes, then put those grapes into peaches where the pit used to be.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Well said, John.
Crapola:
We have an FDA that does almost nothing and it certainly does not regulate GMOs.
We COULD make prescription drugs a lot cheaper if Obama had not sold out to BIG Pharma.
Tell it like it is.
JOAN WALSH here
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Joe Conason here
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Medicare for all... definitely a good idea. The closest to single payer we'll see outside of the Canadian method of implementing state by state.
"Public Option" in its current form does nothing for the majority of Americans.
And without collective bargaining on Medicare prescription drug prices, there's no point to any of this. We could slash costs easily that way, but the deal has already been made "behind closed doors" to take that off the table.
In the wonderful world of Ann Rand libertarian Republicans if people are killed or injured from a product or service then the market will take care of it with the loss of sales with out any government intervention. I don't know how many times this has been proved wrong from cigarettes to the Pinto to strip mining to clear cutting to a thousand other examples. They will not stop promoting the lies until the public stops believing them.
Free market only works where there is competition.
Drug companies have monopolies through things called "patents" on drugs, during which time they are the only people who can produce said drugs.
Collective bargaining through Medicare would have saved untold billions of dollars, but we flushed that down the drain. Thanks, Dubya.
Ding ding!
Today's winner.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
did away with?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
eric cantor seems to think glasses make him look smarter
I wear glasses
Trust me, they don't...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
ever ask them about the quality of food inspectors?
i have.
the answer is "you don't want to know"
Does that count?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I keep hearing from Republicans that 'Americans don't want a Washington bureaucrat making decisions about their health care'. At least that's what they keep saying.
Can someone tell me how that differs from what we have now with insurance companies? They all maintain a table of medical conditions and the usual and customary treatments. If you deviate from that treatment plan, the insurance company more than likely will refuse to cover the expense.
Again, how is having Washington involved going to be any different? I don't see this as an issue, or even as a talking point?
the health insurance oligarchs regularly look for ways to deny coverage (recission), and are responsible for an obscene amount of deaths b/c of this practice.
the insurance companies have fully functional, and very profitable (for their shareholders and employees), death panels.
The short answer is in the stupid joke of Ronald Regan: The nine scariest words in the English language are "I am from the government and I am here to help" They have been pounding this government is the problem meme for almost 40 years to the point where a huge number of Americans buy into it. They also when in power do a terrible job then point to the job they did as proof that government doesn't work.
I could pop Cantor's smug asshole mug right between the eyes.
I'd even donate money to a charity to be given the opportunity to do it.
That weasel better never get within tens clicks of me because I will pop him one if I realize who it is.
"The people harmed along the way are just collateral damage."
The govt regulators just become tools of the industry and the FDA is a revolving door between it and pharma.
Need to fix that problem too.
Fox has been in this, too much govt in your medicine cabinet, mode lately. I'm not sure where they are going with it. Some of their guests have said the govt is too strict in its testing and approving drugs. They are saying it should be up to us to decide what drugs we take and not have to wait for the FDA's approval. I wonder if they feel the same way about the drugs they give their kids?
Cantor appeared too dense to understand what the President was saying to him. I thought I saw the message fly right over his head. He's one of the most classless people in DC
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The face of all smiles, turns to an Oh Shit face in less then 4 minutes. Priceless!
They say they want to change things and make them better. Then as soon as they win, they say, "Oh I'm powerless, I'm only the President."
During the campaign, Obama was beating McCain and the critics like old-school Mike Tyson. Now, he's Glass Joe. And I thought this was going to be the real deal this time. I thought he would actually change or try to change things.
The proof is in the pudding. The HC Insurance bastards and the Big Pharma parasites own everyone in that room.
NOBODY 2012
Cantor seems to not understand the issue at all. He looks completely like a kid in a class trying to get a handle on the subject matter. The President sounds like a teacher that must repeat an easy concept to a student that just does not have the basic background to pass the class.
his head is up his ass.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Not trying to be snarky here. Bush administration implemented "deregulation" when it came to food safety and just about every other area of life. Reagan administration also did so 20+ years ago, as well as George H.W. Bush, with his "Council on Competitiveness" chaired by VP Dan Quayle. They made no secret about it. Their stated philosophy is that government is somehow a problem, it should be reduced, and that private business and the "free market" can somehow regulate itself. Which conveniently eases regulatory burdens on big business. How'd that work for you on meat inspection? On Wall Street? In the housing market? On Hurricane Katrina? On military contractors?
The meat inspectors thing happened here in Canada after
Stephen Harper took over as prime minister.
There were 30+ deaths attributable to listerosis
due to cutbacks in the number of inspectors.
The whole matter almost did in one of the country's
oldest meat packers. The then-Minister of Agriculture
made light of the matter.
When you cut corners, you end up going round in circles.
When leaders cut those kinds of corners they are digging holes, not for themselves but, for their constistuants. The kind of holes that coffins fit in.
They don't 'cherish' free-market capitalism.
They worship it. Or at least their warped corporatist view of what that actually represents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubOGHr8lXag
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Can't-or just got schooled, again. What is he, 12? He's going to need to double up his Proactive regimin tonight or else!
Republicans looking stupid will have no affect on the imbiciles who support them.
Remember Bush's first debate with Kerry in 2004? He stood at the podium repeating the phrase "it's hard work" over and over again - like some high school kid who was trying to bullshit his way through a presentation that he spent all of 30 seconds preparing for. Not only that, but the stupid vapid look on his face was alarming to behold.
And do we need to even mention Palin's appearance with Katie Couric?
"I read all kinds of magazines. You know, all kinds of them. I can't name a single one, but I read all kinds of them."
Or how about Reagan's first debate against Mondale in 1984? Ronnie looked so old and out of it, he did everything but show up wearing his underwear on his head, and demanding that Jane Wyman get him the keys to his Studebaker.
But them wingnuts still love all of those fascist dim bulbs. Hell, according to the reich wingers, those conservative patriots know more than Nobel scientists, economists, or any other type of "ist" you can think of.
Face it folks, we are in deep GOP shit!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
You don't have to worry about people dying from lack of regulations. The republicans have a plan to protect their constituency it's called tort reform.
vw52
I got to watch most of the stream on ESPN yesterday.
Obama took Cantor to school on this point. To grade school. And Cantor, though he sputtered frequently during his lesson on the obvious, could not, when Obama was done, say a thing to counter the obvious point Obama made.
I noticed yesterday that the, formerly, just over 2000 page "draft" copy of the Senate bill has grown, under the Retarded party to 2100ps, for a month or more to 2200ps. I believe it was Cantor who introduced his prop of 2400ps, and yesterday evening the Senate minority leader call it the 2700 page bill.
If the Party string this out till next fall the page count may equal the American dead in Iraq, and wouldn't that be a hell of a coinkeedink.
Anyone else notice for a little less than the last half of this video, the fox news banner says "DEPDENDENT"?
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