Norah O'Donnell and the media use John Boehner talking points to attack Obama's stimulus plan
By John Amato Monday Jan 26, 2009 5:45pm
If you ever need an example of how the media swallows whole every right wing talking point, here it is. Norah O'Donnell uses John Boehner talking points about "contraception" to attack President Obama's stimulus plan as if it's the absolute truth. And of course everything else that republicans don't want in the bill is just plain old pork.
Norah: With all due respect isn't that a bunch of pork in here and how is that exactly stimulus?
I take your point Congressman. but go ahead and answer what Congressman Boehner said. How can you spend hundreds of millions of dollars on contraceptives. How does that stimulate the economy?
Well, let me ask you that then, do you think 200 million dollars essentially contraceptives is wasteful spending?
You get my point, (scowl on her face) there is going to be since this is over 800 billion dollars there's going to be a lot in there that people are going to raise questions about in the long run about wasteful spending, whether it's democrats efforts just to HUGE massive, unprecedented spending bill to put stuff and get stuff paid for that they haven't been successful or paid for in the past.
She even used the now discredited talking point about the CBO. Now we have a real CBO report that says: CBO Report Confirms Economic Recovery Act Provides Immediate Stimulus to Help Create Jobs.
It didn't matter what answer Chris Van Hollen gave Norah, she wasn't buying it. Suddenly John Boehner is a source of incredibly non partisan information. Oh, I forgot, he's a republican. I thought when the nation voted in the Democratic Party to take over, they would write bills and govern on their beliefs. That's why they were elected. OK, to debunk the "contraceptives" talking point which is an attack on Nancy Pelosi, Elanor Shor writes:
The Drudge Report and Politico are breathlessly repeating Republican talking points that accuse House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) of hijacking the stimulus bill to promote contraceptive use...
First of all, the family-planning program that Pelosi supports expanding in the stimulus bill was created in 1972 under the leadership of Republican president Richard Nixon. What's being proposed is an expansion in the number of states that can use Medicaid money, with a federal match, to help low-income women prevent unwanted pregnancies...read on.
The media are going to be the death of this country. It was bad enough when they were too dumb to know (or care) that the Bush administration was marching us off to war for no good reason. But at least that made a certain evil, emotional sense. People have often gone to war because they got all excited over snappy uniforms and killing people.
Watching them deal with something complicated like our economic crisis is enough to make your head explode.
Boehner's cute soundbite about contraceptives is, of course, nonsense. The money he's talking about is for medicaid, which is desperately needed at a time when people are losing their jobs --- and, by the way, will help stimulate the economy by paying the doctors, pharmacies and hospitals for the (much increased) care they give, something that is a big problem at a time when states are going broke.
Norah O'Donnell later ripped Democrat Chris Van Hollen a new one on that issue because he wasn't prepared and he ended up pretty much endorsing the idea that spending should all be on infrastructure after she perfectly parroted all the conservative talking points and successfully framed all expenditures that aren't tax cuts and bridges as pork.
Oh Lord, please help me. Then I watched Chris Matthews actually quote Limbaugh by name saying that the stimulus plan is just party politics for poor people and thought the use of contraception was just like China counting babies. The media has no shame. No shame I tell you.
Media Matters is covering the media and their insanity very well also.
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If someone doesn't know how you get pregnant in 2009, no amount of money is going to help.
Nora, as much of the Boner you are receiving, I think that is just the cost of contraception for you.
Ron--
Hilarious...I laughed till I wept.
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It looks like the media is even worse than ever. This is why a site like this and bloggers all around are so important. The internets have to be secured now for one and all forever.
Corporate Amerika OWNS the media. Corporate Amerika is da boss. The only way to shut them up is to boycot them and their advertisers.
Hell, I don't even think that would work.
And it has just begun folks. The fit has hit the shan.
..and as I recall there's a name for when the corporations dictate the policies to the government and then the government imposes those policies on the people..so they benefit the corporations and the people doing the "governing??? "
Oh, Yeah, now I remember >>>> Fascism!
has degenerated and regressed to "My Little Goat" so they can appeal to the minority Bush wing of trailer trash.
with its coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition, laundering and prechewing the talking points, making them acceptable and accessible for the rest of the lazy media. for 20 years, snce reagan killed the Fairness Doctrine, the talk radio monopoly has determined the flavor of america. limbaugh, as its point man, whether freelancing or establishing GOP talking points and framing, has been the most influential voice in US politics by far.
obama invoked limbaugh because he wanted to draw attention to the problem- saying the talk radio blowhards will lead the way for GOP obstruction. he's saying get his back. about bloody time a major dem politician did that.
call complain boycott picket the LOCAL limbaugh station and their LOCAL sponsors- it's fun and easy!
What he and the right don't get is that unless we do something drastic and quickly in the form of counting babies, the human population will inevitably exceed the planet's carrying capacity, not to mention the enormous effect a growing human population has on our neighbors, the OTHER animals.
the human race is doing a pretty good job right now of self extinction. Every time I read the news there is mass genocide in one form or another going on.
But I get your point. I think there are far too many people on this planet and birth control will help forestall the inevitable.
boehner (s******) condoms (s******)
apparently there is no money to be made with free contraception or Boehner would be all for it. If we throw 10K at him, he'd vote for it,no prob!
education, no jobs there either! oh, except for teachers for public schools. can't have that.
Hey Boehner, you can lead, follow or get out of the way.
I bet his tanning bed id covered by his Government benefit package.
Criticism of the Media is legitimate, as well as the study of the history of the media, the ownership of the media, and the attempts in the past to control the media. I know Armstrong Williams and Jeff Gannon were both partisan in their media roles. I know there was a CIA plot called Operation Mockingbird to infiltrate and control the media. I know they are owned by very few of the most powerful corporations in the world. I know a past CIA director bragged about their ability to control the media. I know the Council on Foreign Relations attempted to buy up a majority of the media.
I know people used to think anyone who talked about the government spying on dissidents and journalists could be labeled a conspiracy theorist, but now I guess that its common knowledge. I hope the blogs and in particular this one, make up for the odds that we are up against in this fight for truth, good reporting, and muckraking. It's long past due and necessary. Hope we succeed.
Some blogs are not journalism and Limbaugh is?
Why does the right hate America?
No doubt there's some pork in this bill, and that's hard to defend, but O'Donnell has NO sense of proportion or perspective. We've just given away hundreds of BILLIONS to financial corporations with no oversight and we have no idea where it went, and O'Donnell is having a stroke over a couple hundred million is this bill.
The amount she's talking about is far less than the $4B in bonuses from our bailout tax dollars that were handed out to execs of the failed Merrill Lynch. If this is what passes for a journalist in 2009 America, we're definitely screwed. What a moron.
keep pointing out financials as destroyers of this nation's (and world's) economy with blatant greedy excesses.
-ask why financial rogues aren't evicted / foreclosed from their dwellings
--called in to account for every expense like we do for any non-rich person receiving aid whether it be college financial aid, aid to families with dependent children, poor, aged, mentally ill, etc, etc
--ask them to show where their money goes, why it is ok to have overseas holdings (harassing foreign born workers and students is ok)
-- & why they aren't posted on a megan's list for financial predators
oh, that's right $ talks. and the media is corporate. and the shills are not accountable to the public.
Moron has no idea what she is talking about, this is less than the $350 billion they gave out last year, why aren't they complaining about that? Right, $4B in bonuses with our money, no complaint. Citi is buying a new jet for $50M, nothing. They fall for Boner's line about condoms?? How do these people get a job?
What bothers me is that if MSNBC is this sloppy with the facts just imagine what the rest of the media will do with this. Poor Keith and Rachel are the only ones that know what they are talking about these days.
LOL
John,
Your partisanship is glaringly obvious.
I'm no Norah fan, but can you answer Boehnhead's question? What does contraceptive money have to do with stimulus?
The good Congressman was falling all over himself trying to skirt the issue.
Call like they are, John, not like you hope they are.
Jeezus
you would know instinctively what the answer was.
Your sexism is glaringly obvious.
The only reason this discussion happened is because Dems are actually allowing the contents of this bill to be made public. What a concept! I'd be happy to answer your question about the contraceptive money if you can tell me what happened to those hundreds of billions the Bush administration gave away to the big financial companies. Besides straight into the pockets of the executives, that is. Go ahead, take a shot at it. I'll be waiting.
I used to be a health teacher, so I know the answer to this one:
sometimes, if there's a stimulus it can lead to Sex, and you should not have unprotected sex; ergo, the need for contraceptives.
rubbers, the money is to expand S-CHIP to kids of the unemployed.
Why doesn't that congresscritter know that?
can you read. If so, get busy and enough of your partisan bullshit.
At one time we had schools of journalism.
Now you draw a picture from a matchbook, provide a head-shot, and you're a graduate of the Barbizon School of Modeling and Broadcast Journalism.
And if you're pretty/handsome enough, you get paid high six-figure salaries to opine on cable TV networks.
There are more qualified blacksmith's in this country than journalists's.
Ponder that!
O'Donnell is just one more example of this. I would try to name qualified journalist's, but it would take more research than all of the scientist's involved in the Manhattan Project.
I'm unemployed, but I don't have THAT much time...
Ok, if that is the way the Corporate MSM Stooges and the Repugtards are going to play it, you Dems better stop playing," lets only look forward and not dwell on the past " and put everything BACK on the table. Obama and whoever better prosecute for every illegal fuck-up Bush and Company pulled off, including the war, including the wiretapping, including the missing emails, including lying to Congress.... ah whats the use. As long as you keep Pelosi, Reid, Hoyer, Lieberman, Feinstein, etc., etc., your fucked.
The crazy thing is that's not "playing dirty." It's following the rule of law.
Now there's a concept...
I would like our legislators to have actually read the paperwork before attempting to talk about it. Stop having your staffers and low level aides give you cliff note talking points and truly understand your job.
A lawmakers job is paperwork. Plain and simple. When someone comes out with a talking point on a massive piece of documentation only minutes after it has been released, then that should send up red flags that they haven't done their job and are only trying to score political points. And it would be nice if "journalists" looked into the paperwork instead of taking the soundbites as fact. Oh well....
better wake the hell up.
Yes, Obama has his work cut out for him, and what he's trying to do may be too little too late to avert disaster. But one thing is damn sure: if these Know-Nothing right wing obstructionist ostriches get their way the United States economy is *definitely* going to go belly up like a dead goldfish.
And then where will Nora O'Donnell and Sam Donaldson (and all the other geniuses who agree with the Republicans that we should stay aboard the Titanic) be?
Out of a job and SOL along with probably half of the American workforce.
alive and well in the MSM!
keep screaming and yelling like we did to get Obama elected. Talk, yell, write, call. There are many more of us than them.
my suggestion is obama just builds burger kings and everyone whos unemployed gets to work in one, and you can work there but you cant eat there so you take your pay every day and eat at a different burger king, that way you have a job for life, every bodys haveing it thier way!
The extent to which the republican party is still controlling the debate is indicative of how cowed the media and democratic party have become over the last 8 years under the Bush cartels constant abuse.
The Dems,still trying to get these thugs on board in bipartisan fashion is pathetically similar to a beaten woman continually returning to her abusive husband.The media are no different-they've been desperately vying for favor from the right wing,craving attention,sitting up straight like good boys and girls so they get to ask their pointless puffball questions.Yech.It really has been a nauseating display.
I really really want to like Norah. I really do but she pulls this crap over and over again. What does she think is going to happen when she uses Republican talking points over and over? Even if she does it once a week or once every two weeks or even once a month she loses all credibility. Once somebody like me hears her use a Republican talking point she cannot be trusted.It would take a year of kissing up to the left before she could be valid again. I just wish these people would understand this.
I think Norah is on the Republican bandwagon because she is in the income bracket that wants the tax breaks for the very rich to continue. I wonder if she has looked at her mutual fund statement lately or if she is like so many others who are just scared to death to take a peek.
i know that the repugs think that the wpa was a socialist plot to control america...but it seemed to work well...costs were kept to a minimum, and much of the infrastructure built lasted for years, and remains today
is it part of the plan to create a new wpa...with honorable people at the head making sure that living wages are paid and that the money doesnt all go to corrupt contractors who will hire illegals
just curious
Unfortunately there is a big difference between the 1930s when the WPA was created and now.I think its a great idea,but people should realize that this recovery will probably take years owing to an economy literally saturated with debt.Back then by '35,most debt had already been washed away by the bankruptcies of small business' and farming operations.They were therefore able to begin a stimulus program with a (relatively)clean slate compared to today.
Norah O'Donnell is just doing her job here in this interview. She's giving Van Hollen, the spokesperson for the Democratic majority, an opportunity to respond to a point of criticism from a spokesperson from the minority party, and Van Hollen's response was wishy-washy.
All Van Hollen had to do is say: "hundred of millions of dollars ARE NOT being spent on contraceptives". Family planning counseling and public awareness efforts are NOT contraceptives. Find out how much money is ACTUALLY being spent on the condoms and such, (it's probably less than a million dollars) .. and debunk the issue!!! Fer cryin' out loud.
Good point.
Wrong answer and approach!
I would have said; "why is it when your party transferred 25% of the wealth to the richest from the working class, you were fine with it! Why is it that when Bush was stealing the country blind for his cronies and charging the taxpayers for ALL of it, you thought it was great! But when the country (people) need help, well, now you got your knickers up. Frankly Mr. Boenher, you and your party are a miserable failure, and are responsible for every mess we have! And the American people know it, even if the MSM and MSNBC doesn't!"
WTF is so hard to comprehend about taking the debate! YOU FUCKING WON you spin-less weasels! For chris sakes, Bush and the GOP shoved a corporate fascist agenda down our throats for eight years with a 47% majority, and the democrats are worried about them?
And Obama should say "tax cuts predominantly for the rich and corporations have almost destroyed America economically, and I am hear to slay the big conservative tax cut lie!"
(He won't, but he should). There will be no tax cuts, because they only transfer wealth to the richest, and the GOP better hope I don't push for 99% RETROACTIVE marginal rates. See how Rush and Grover like that!"
Nora, hundreds of millions of dollars are not being spent on contraceptives. Only a very small fraction of this bailout is being spent on family planning and public awareness efforts, in an effort to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, pregnancies out of wed-lock, and abortions. Only a very small fraction of that tiny fraction of the stimulus package is being used to make contraceptives available to those who want them. And this is what you bring up? This is the best our critics can come up with? Surely in a package this large, you can find something better than that?
Not only will this money spent on family planning have an immediate impact that will save and/or create jobs, but this effort will help save the American taxpayer money over the long run. The question you should be asking is, What does Sen Boehner and the Republican Party in general, have against reducing abortions and saving the taxpayer money?
Born and raised in San Antonio!
her idiot sister, Kelly.
If the talking heads knew anything about economics, they sure as hell wouldn't be repeating the lies of the reichwingnuts who got us into the shape we are in now with their drunken sailor spending for the illegal and immoral W wars for oil. Norah and Chris are just not qualified for their jobs if they have to get in the tank with the losing party.
Breaking News: What the H E L L was up with MSNBC Coverage Today.
With the exception of David Shuster and Keith Olbermann I was very disappointed with MSNBC Coverage today, first the glorifying of Rush Limbaugh by the hands of Pat Buchannan and Mike Barnacle; They essentially said that Rush was the leader of the Republican party and it wouldn’t be wise to take him on. This racist promoting bigot was given protection from MSNBC Employees; maybe they fear if Obama takes down Rush then they will be next ones to have their opinions challenge.
And then Norah, what was really going on; did any of the Anchors actually read the stimulus bill or did they skip through it and decided to just wing it with republican talking points since dumb minds can only comprehend dumb things.
Most of today’s entire narrative has been to create controversy instead of report what is in the best interest of American. MSNBC was quite disappointing today.
MEMO To MSNBC: Americans are losing jobs every single day; not just one or two but thousands among thousands of Jobs. Maybe this is of little concern to you because majority of your news coverage was to help republicans keep Americans Ignorant of what’s really going on. I suggest you stop being a protectionist of Rush Limbaugh and the Republican Party and start being a protectionist for the American People.
Rush Limbaugh is with out question the most harmful element in reasoned debate today.The damage done by this one demagogue boggles the mind.
that MSNBC is owned by General Electric - major player in the
war industry - 'nuf said.
Why does she still have her job? She obviously can't comprehend even the simplest of things... such as John Boehner's use of disinformation, etc. I wonder why MSNBC puts up with incompetence?
Hasn't anyone told her that the CBO report was fiction and that the REAL one out now... disproves the GOP talking points? Isn't her job to know these things?
That is why she has no credibility. She just repeats the Republican talking points. I don't think she is stupid though. Just a tool.
I think she is more lazy than a toll
I thought Noron and her ilk would retire now that Bush is no longer the Preznut. Why does John Bonehead continue to get all of this media time? Goodness knows he got enough during the Bush/Cheney regime. Obama at least has a plan, which should garner some media attention.
These talking heads simply do what they are told to do by their corporate masters.They repeat rightwing talking points because republican ideology is more closely aligned with the whims of the ruling class.
We must keep the pressure on Congress and the President to stand up to the lies and misdeeds of the Republicans and the MSM. They have lied about this issue, and now I read on another site that Obama is asking the Democrats to take out the money for Medicaid in order to address the Republicans's concerns (which are of course are based on lies and exaggerations!!) Don't just get mad and post here. Email your representatives and the President. If you haven't already done so, go to WhiteHouse.org. They've made it easy for us to tell them what we think.
Thanks very much for the reminder, and the tip to visit WhiteHouse.org. I'm going to contact my representative asap! (Thankfully, my Congressman, though more of a conservative Democrat, is at least reponsive to his constituents and willing to listen.)
I can think of a good many low-income young women around me who would welcome the opportunity to have easier access to contraceptives during this seriously rough economic time. In fact, I imagine that some women who would not be interested in it in better times (lots of Catholics in these parts, for instance), because they are worried about the little mouths they need to feed already without adding one or two more right now.
But, of course, Boehner is too worried about "the size of the package" to care about other folks' realities... *sigh*
Stealing for the rich = good.
Giving to the people who work and pay the taxes = socialism!
Why don't the democrats have anybody who can disembowel these lying fascists in a debate? It takes me about 30 seconds to get idiot wingnuts to go skulking away with their tails between their legs in a debate.
Yet, all the democrats can do is find these spin-less jellyfish.
Do you have to be infected with Harry Reid personality syndrome in order to be a democratic spokesperson? Sheesh!
Oh, I know, I know... It's so damned frustrating! I for one am the non-confrontational type myself, and it takes a lot to push me to the point where I am angry enough to give someone a good tongue lashing, but if I were the Democratic spokesperson, I would be so over that at this point.
Harry Reid syndrome indeed! :( If only the pushovers could be pushed out of the way so people with spines could handle this, quickly and ruthlessly...
Believe Norah the major Republican at your own risk. She is just another MSM toady that does whatever her corporate masters tell her so she can continue to make the big bucks and appear to be competent.
These corporate shills could care less about what the public thinks, it's just about all about them and their defunct political agenda.
How do we break the corporate strangle on news?
This is one thing that we all need to think hard about
I think this post's framing was incorrect.
It doesn't matter that she asked a question that a republican rep had posed first. In fact, it's a good thing that they ask some of the questions posed by the opposition.
The problem lies in the inability to hear a valid response as valid.
Get all up in a lather about contraception. Hit from the reichwing talking points about "geee....only 25% is going to get into the economy THIS YEAR....."..doh. Yeah Norah, you ignorant bitch. This is LONG TERM....as in MORE THAN ONE YEAR to dig our way out of this screwed up mess. I'm for putting some in now, some in later, some in later, etc. Dump it all in like the frat boy did in the way of a nice $300 check for everyone made little or no sense.
She can be spot on at times, and she can be just another right wing hack.
Yes, conceeded that Norah is a tool and a slut.
But moving beyound that the package flat out sucks. Krugman and others who know what is happening say that a trillion is a bare minimum to have any effect, half again as much would be better. The Thuglicans used our boy like soap and he packed in enough tax cuts to make the actual effective part of the bill about a third of what is needed. And then they still won't support it. And the Demo ass hat in this clip actually defends these ineffectual tax cuts.
Cut to January 2010. A year of 500k jobs lost each month. Unemployment 10.8 percent. Dow at 5200. Still 140k troops in Iraq and 50+ in Afghanistan. Tent cities on the Washington Mall and in Central Park. Rush calls them Obamavilles. And Norah will be interviewing Boehner and McConnell and asking them "how does it feel to have been right about the stimulus last year?"
Come on Barry, show some sack. Nationalize the failed banks. Ram a trillion of pure spending down the loyal oppositions throat. Fully fund NCLB and social services. Extend unemployment to 12 or 18 months. Quadruple health care spending. Cut 30 percent off the DOD. Repeal the Bush tax cuts early and raise marginal rates to 1960 levels. Tell Goldman, BOA, CitiBank, et. al. "if you're too big to fail then you're too big not to break up." Eliminate the capital gains tax and tax them as income. Get Conyers Medicare for all bill out of the damn committee and have Hoyer force the vote.
Show some frickin sack for a change. Or you'll be a one term president.
Here here! Well said. Why aren't you a democratic spokesman?
because I'm not a Democrat.
But I'm open to playing one on TV.
C&L had a post the other day as to the lack of spokespersons for this "plan". I think it was the post of Krugman on MTP. Who do they have out there? NO ONE!
given Boner so much additional camera face time?
Great time to try to become "fair and balanced", MSM.
Minority Leader in the House. Kinda' sad ain't it?...to think that John Boehner and his predecessor, Tom Delay, are/were leaders of any part of our government....??!
She flashed up the graphics reading:
$720 million for school snacks
$200 million for the Washington mall (including grass!)
$650 million digital conversion coupons
$600 million new cars for federal employees.
What, exactly, is wrong with these items?
When people lose jobs, their kids go on the school lunch programs. It is outrageous to attack school lunches in a time of deep recession.
What's wrong with fixing the Washington mall? $200 million is a fairly modest urban project. When did a development project not include landscaping?
These two tripped my outrage meter. This woman is against feeding kids. She wants to act as if a construction project shouldn't include grass.
What an outrageous, lying piece of garbage. But she doesn't get called on it. The graphic goes by, the Congressman sputters, and she wins.
As to the converter boxes, this has been brewing a long time. The Congress gave us this February deadline, and people don't have the money to convert. But ffs, she's a tv reporter. The Congressman, if he understood this issue, could slice her up: people won't be able to watch her stupid program without coupons for converter boxes, and she probably knows that.
As to the cars, I have no idea what the federal government spends on cars, and whether this is in excess of the usual. But it's obviously stimulative - Detroit could use the sales. That's called "saving the auto industry."
These things are easily answered. But the leaders of the Democratic party can't hack it. We are doomed.
is right to help people pay for their digital converter boxes. I mean, they're causing the unemployment of millions, so the least they can do is ensure the people will have functioning TV for entertainment.
And, if they don't get converters, they won't be able to watch the MSM
and get their daily dose of reichwing propaganda.
Why do I have the feeling that these TV converters the government is supplying, means everytime I turn on the TV, and on every channel, will be some Gomer telling me I need JEEEEZZZUSSSS.
"When people lose jobs, their kids go on the school lunch programs. It is outrageous to attack school lunches in a time of deep recession."
Indeed, that is truly digusting. My home county, Kern County, CA will be out of money for the school lunch program by the end of the year, with lots of children depending on that program. I imagine our neighboring county, Tulare County, is in the exact same dire straits, only worse, because Tulare is one county where, when the country is *not* in recession, there are still entire schools full of children who qualify for and depend upon the school lunch program.
I wonder how Norah can sleep at night...
inside a coffin with the rest of her brethren.
Or if she can't make it before sunrise, she has been known to sleep upside down hanging from a suitable crevice inside a damp and dark cave....
Ack, don't insult vampires! :P
"Or if she can't make it before sunrise, she has been known to sleep upside down hanging from a suitable crevice inside a damp and dark cave...."
Sounds rather Freudian, don't ya think?
I have known too many kids that relied on school breakfast and lunch programmes for 2 decent and filling meals a day. Some kids were lucky to get a bag of chips for dinner when they got home. I used to work at a summer camp where we served meals family style and the kids could eat as much as they liked. For 2 weeks, some of these skinny little kids would have 3 good meals a day plus snacks and they would be sad to go home because they knew they weren't going to get anything like it when they got back. The fact that it is classified as wasteful spending is unreal. I guess I should expect this from the party that slashed Headstart, the breakfast programmes and wanted to make ketchup a vegetable.
Oh gosh...those poor kids. :(
And yes, we already no longer have a breakfast program in these two counties for the kids as it is...
Oh gosh...those poor kids. :(
And yes, we already no longer have a breakfast program in these two counties for the kids as it is...
Tell them, we will forgo the contraception, if that's their big concern. Because we could always use the stem cells... :-P
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LOL, thanks I needed that laugh today!
Great picture ain't it :-P
It would be amusing to see how long it would take for the shock to wear off long enough for them to lift their lil neocon jaws off the floor! ;)
That's why O'Donnell and her ilk are called "presstitutes."
I am so sick of these people. Obama cannot be so stupid to fall for this crap. Where are the surrogates that know what they are saying, this fool got beat up by Noron. Even Ed Shultze would have laid her to waste, come on!
I sure hope Obama is doing some rope-a-dope. Let these pukes spew for a while then hit them hard. I am so disappointed in MSNBC today.
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What a stupid fucking question-- what if my mother had an abortion? My mother did have an abortion, just wasn't me.
The vast, vast, vast, vast majority of rightwing fuckwits I encounter are the most unhappy people I've ever met. Outside of having a crap day at work today, I am happy as clam most of the time. I don't walk around hating people that look different to me, want to engage in same sex relationships, smoke pot, speak foreign languages, and respect the Constitution. Oh, and we have lives. We want our lives and yours to be better so we get angry at people that want to make our lives worse.
Now go back to your porn.
Not yet, I was there first.
the whole argument is that they invited a rookie congress critter on that didn't read the whole bill so they could barrage him with Puke points that he was unprepared to answer, I hope next time he knows better.
I'm glad you posted this, I saw it live yesterday. Boy, did "The Noron" look proud after she pulled that one off and I hope "whats his face" feels really stupid for getting his ass stomped by a ditz.
Even though I support Pelosi's proposal, it seems obvious that adding this legislation to the economic stimulus package presents the Republicans with an opportunity to attack the Democrats over the integrity and soundness of the whole package. Including an item such as this, which can be argued has such a tenuous relationship to immediate recovery, even though it may be real, only adds fodder to the Republican position on continued tax cuts for high income taxpayers which is totally inapplicable to immediate stimulus.
Get the package passed with the essential elements of economic stimulus and remove all items which the Republicans can use for political purposes and horse-trading. They use the same old tactics, so why not outflank them?
if Congress went by your rule, nothing would get accomplished, the Pukes will always find something in a bill to cry about to keep it from moving ahead.
The Dems need to be better prepared with their rebuttals is all and not let some ill-equipped rummy go on TV before he is vetted IMO.
In other words, screw the Pukes and pass it.
Didn't we used to put propagandists like Norah in prison?
The news media are not so much stupid as they are lazy. By adopting the opposition's talking points as their own, the Norah O'Donnell's of the world never have to do any actual thinking to prepare for interviews. And because movement conservatives like Boehner are so paranoid, their talking points are outrageous and logic-free, making for "better television" than statements made by Democrats. There's nothing the news media like better than "controversy", hence the incredible overuse of the word "controversial" when describing anything where there may be disagreement. I used to be a journalist. I wouldn't call the people I worked with stupid, but, like Norah O'Donnell, they were lazy and not very bright.
It's easier than thinking!
because the talk radio monopoly is the only medium with the capacity for the kind of coordinated uncontested repetition needed to make that kind of crap acceptable for the rest of the media.
limbaugh and hannity and co have to prechew the talking points. obama was right invoking limbaugh, doing what clinton, gore, and kerry should have done. all dems, when confronted with GOP obstuctionist flat earthers bushit should be asked
DID YOU HEAR THAT FROM LIMBAUGH, OR HANNITY?
the GOP is the party of limbaugh now- he more than any other, as point man for the talk radio monopoly , represents the principles and morals of the republican party. put his face on the republican dollar bill. shame the tradmedia into thinking twice when they repeat the talking points that GOP sycophants like boner repeat with certitude only because limbaugh and sons already prechewed them all over the country all week long.
Funny how when it's a Republican it's not the medias job to challenge them. They just let them spew without question. But if it's a Democrat they want to challenge every word.
Norah, you ignorant slut...
Nancy Pelosi just sold out poor and teen women by deleting the contraceptive money from the economic stimulus package. The one point in the package we all know would pay for itself many times over, by preventing unplanned pregnancies, unsupported children, and unfunded hospitalizations is precisely the package she allowed the Republicans to cut.
This is the same Pelosi who wanted her own private jet for Washington travel.
The GOP does not want contraception for poor women because bureaucratic relatives of their elected officials keep their jobs and increase federal jobs when women are forced onto welfare.
And that, correspondents, posters, and kvetchers, is why I hate government and would like to see their "engine stopped" a la Rand, so that we can get the rank-and-file to dismantle it and build a better one!
littlepitcher!
ding ding ding!
But keep digging. You see, Democrats = Republicans. But John Amato would never admit to that. He is on the Democratic payroll.
The two party system is designed to divide and conquer. John Amato is their useful tool.
Shame.
Want to stop the contraceptive battle take cialis and viagra and encyte off the market because every one knows the GOP need encyte because they have little dicks and they need cialis and viagra because they have ugly wives
O'Donnell is just another ignorant mouthpiece for Reslug whores.
feces that nora is. And with the same amount of brain cells. What a deal!
That's why they call her Moron O’Donnell. Her tank is always on empty waiting to filled up with bullshit from the republicans
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