SC's Jim DeMint would rather bring pain to President Obama than help the American people
SC's Jim DeMint is the most extreme right wing Senator in the House of Lourdes and he's taking it as far as he can. Well, I should withhold my judgment until we see where we are by the end of the month.
Conservative leaders will push delay any vote on health care reform until after the August recess to capitalize on what they say is a growing tide of opposition to reform measures, they said on a conference call with "tea party" participants today.
"I can almost guarantee you this thing won't pass before August, and if we can hold it back until we go home for a month's break in August," members of Congress will hear from "outraged" constituents, South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint said on the call, which was organized by the group Conservatives for Patients Rights.
"Senators and Congressmen will come back in September afraid to vote against the American people," DeMint predicted, adding that "this health care issue Is D-Day for freedom in America."
"If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him," he said.
My pal Steve Benen added:
Last week, Sen. Jim DeMint (R) of South Carolina, arguably the chamber's most right-wing member, told an audience at the National Press Club that the United States is currently "about where Germany was before World War II." Everything about his remarks -- the sense of history, the understanding of current events, the philosophy -- was a special kind of stupid. But DeMint seems quite pleased with himself, and keeps churning out new and creative insanity
Think Progress follows up with the audio from one of Nixon's hatchet men, G.Gordon Libby.
And while promoting his new book on the G. Gordon Liddy show yesterday, DeMint agreed with Gordon — who ironically has a history of expressing sympathetic views to Nazis — that Obama has created a government like that under Hitler:
LIDDY: But there’s something else that I remember because I’m a lot older than you are and it’s called national socialism and that’s where the government allows private people to continue to own industrial capacity and what have you but tells them what they may — must do with it. You know, you will make Messerschmidts, etc. That was national socialism. That seems to me the way we’re going.
DEMINT: You’re right we’ve got national socialism, national paternalism and our form of socialism seems more benign than the classical form that we noted in Europe.
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As Matt Yglesias previously wrote, “Look, comparing your domestic political rivals to Nazis is a time-honored tradition. But confusing the Nazis and Germany’s Social Democrats is a scandal.
The closer we get to health care reform---the crazier the debate gets. Even the media has turned hostile towards the health care debate. Just watch the way they frame every debate, every question and try to just shred it instead of bringing us news so we can to evaluate the state of health care. A major campaign pledge by all Democrats running for President was to reform health care, but they are trying to make it seem like it's some fringe idea now. Suddenly all Americans love their health care. How many stories have you seen by the MSM that highlight how the health insurance companies operate under the current system and how they dictate what shall be covered for you and your family? Not too many...
Gays boo!! Blacks boo!! Immigrants boo!! Folks from France boo!! Volvo driving, latter sipping, easterners boo!! Muslims boo!! Atheists boo!! Commies boo!! Socialist boo!!
DeMented DeMint lives at the C Street complex. Along with a whole slew of other Congressmen including some Demorcrats. This article is scary.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/jul/19/b...
That is an amazing article. The prayer breakfast made me really angry. And since when is an American Embassy concerned about Jesus.
then why are they all drinking the spiked koolaid together?
Fascists yeah!
Get the Wall Street Mafia OUT of health care payment.
Single payer is the answer to any question.
DeMint or G Gordon Liddy included.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
These bankers who with the Insurance creeps have aligned with the rich pricks of Wall Street.They should be drawn and quartered,a nasty little way of death developed by their ancestors.
has been pretty vocal but some here compare him as a left wing Limbaugh. It's time for people to get their heads out of the sand.
Ed is great. He is just as "all American" as that microphone guy that named after his drug addiction, or is he names after the rock band? anyway, the difference with Ed is what he is saying. If Ed was spewing republicanzi hate he would be just as offensive as that other guy.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Potter but none of the other outlets have...In Colorado, we have three groups who have major ads on TV about socialism and the Canadian Health Care system, govt control...All are outrageous liars but the scare tactics might be helping the wingnuts!!!!That is why the Idiots want to put off the vote...Call all the repubs and the Blue dog Dems and tell them to do the work they were elect to do. 1.800.828.0498
All the lobbyists vote in their own self interest BUT NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE LOBBYIST !! We can and will send them home! We need more Bernie Saunders!!!
rofl
i think they're just removing some deadly isulation from the trailer walls at the moment. They'll be ready some time after that. might take a while though.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
would that be the nut case Glenn Beck FEMA camps you are talking about
It sure is funny how the rethugs voted for anything and everything Bush and Chaney wanted no matter how much money was wasted, But they don't vote for anything Obama does to straighten out the mess they made in the last 8 years. I hope it's the end of the Republican party forever.. What I can't figure out his how they can Blame Obama for the debt that Bush created.
their hometown constiuents...they were fine
god forbid the country should really benefit from their spendthrift ways
If you repeat a lie five times in public, it becomes the truth.
It sure is funny how the rethugs voted for anything and everything Bush and Chaney wanted no matter how much money was wasted, But they don't vote for anything Obama does to straighten out the mess they made in the last 8 years. I hope it's the end of the Republican party forever.. What I can't figure out his how they can Blame Obama for the debt that Bush created.
Halliburton sure didn't mind being told to go over to Iraq and frantically build oil wells. Wait -- or was it the other way around?!?
Remember that the health care industry is behind the current reform bill, which ought to raise red flags.
Obama's administration continues to refuse that it will guarantee a single payer option.
Perhaps stalling this bill is for the best, regardless of Republican ulterior motives.
Now they're trying reverse psychology? There is NO reason to rush this except the single-payer plan is gaining momentum. Remember what the division is: Real People vs. Corporations. Also remember that the DEM vs. GOP is not at issue here. The corporations have bribed both sides, perhaps equally. If we do not get single-payer, then nothing else will do. And single-payer should begin IMMEDIATELY. Or sign up for the sacrifice list. You know, those who are volunteering to die while waiting for their coverage to begin.
When Prissy Miss Lindsey is the most viable of S.C. politics you just have to wonder.
It's not all or nothing.
But, but Lindsey's brownie badges and his air of condescension prove he is better qualified than other contenders to represent the people of S.C.!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
He says that the US now resembles pre-war Germany, I'm more worried that if DeMint and his friends get any say in America's future the US will resemble post-war Germany.
mention Germany. According to some scholars and historians, the occupation of Germany following WWII was the beginning of American empiricism. I think I got that factoid off History Channel. Sad really.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
I wonder if the people of South Carolina are proud of their senators and governor. They are hypocritical, incompetent, racist, condenscending, and cruel.
Do NOT underestimate the lengths to which the insurance companies and drug companies will go, to keep things as they are.
republicanism is a mental illness!
The GOP Waterloo was last November. Booked your reservation on Corsica yet?
And you want to stop 47 million people from having access to health care? You selfish pig. How Republican of you.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
There was no 'outcry' when G Bush gave $1.6 trillion in tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans; there was no 'outcry' when Bush spent $1 trillion on Iraq and rebuilding this foreign country; but there is an 'outcry' when Obama attempts to spend money in America, helping Americans with health care and addressing a near depression environment. Nobody asked how to pay for Bush's reckless spending and NOW there is an issue with Obama? I'm completely bumfuzzled! The health care/insurance Nazis kill Americans every day by withholding treatment, but Congress and their families enjoy FREE government health care in office and on through retirement. They get health care, they get hundreds of millions in bribes cloaked as donations. It's time to kick these anti-American narcissists to the curb!
Ding ding ding, today's winner.
Nice job!
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
be scheduled for the third ring of Dante`s Hell.Damn his nasty ugliness,his rotten spirit,and his heartless greed.
Verified Voting and Public financing of elections will get rid of him and his ilk.
DEMINT: You’re right we’ve got national socialism, national paternalism and our form of socialism seems more benign than the classical form that we noted in Europe.
Wait a sec, "more benign?" That means less harmful. What's DeMint trying to say?
I want a nice, boring socialized medical system. There's nothing at all radical about such a system - they have them all over Europe, and people there pay much less per capita for health care then people do here in America.
End of argument. The opposition offers nothing but lies and distortions.
It appears that Senator DeMint may be less worried about causing his constituents pain than he is causing himself pain. According to opensecrets.org, he is into the Insurance, Health and Pharma groups to the tune of about $400,000. Also, according to familiesusa.org, 34% of South Carolinians under the age of 65 (approximately 1.3 million people) are uninsured. Breaking this down further, it appears that Hispanics and African Americans bear the brunt of this problem.
Given the GOPs recent hard right turn toward hate-based politics, it should surprise no one that the Senator wants to equate anything that is going to take half-a-million dollars out of his pocket as National Socialism. Or, putting it another way, for a mere $3.25 per uninsured South Carolinian, his contributors can count on him to vote against health care reform.
Nice guy.
http://www.thedeallucille.com
On NBC Nightly News they quoted an anonymous Repub Senator saying that if they could kill this healthcare reform, it would be Obama's "Waterloo".
The GOP - always putting party first.
Nailed it.
This POS is just another hate-filled Republican. Dog bites man.
As a member of the C Street Gang and "The Family", he enjoys inflicting pain on others. Hitler enjoyed inflicting pain and "The Family" are admirers of Hitler. Wonder if what kind of sex scandal will expose DeMint. Perhaps a little S&M pain?
I am 47 years old voted Democratic every time . The blue dog dems are going to fuck this Healthcare up. Obama loses and the Repubs return, even stronger! If the Blue Dogs fuck this up 2010 and 2012 will be Repub sweeps. We are F-ed, I assume the young new voters of 08 will walk away as I will. I am starting to believe, you just can't beat these Repubs, they trash the economy, its Obama,s fault. And America buys it, they ruin the Constitution-blame Dems and America buys it. If we lose HealthCare, we are done. Sorry to say, but all good deeds ,go punished.
one part of the major distraction from the truth. Corporations own both parties, and nothing that does not benefit them will change. By 2010, they will have left us NO recourse but to accept their rule. That last statement may have been too optimistic.
You must have been talking to my brother-in-law. No matter how aggregious the republican destruction is, all he does is bitch about democrats.
And there are lots of people even dumber than him out there. That's why the corporate fascist bribery game the bluedogs are playing is so evil and destructive. Unlike the braindead bigots who vote GOP, the liberals will not vote lockstep if they get fucked over by their party.
Corporate fascism will have to be taken down through revolution if the dumbocrats don't get a clue. Because one way or another, corporate fascism WILL eventually be destroyed. The blue dogs can either work with us, or jump on the ash-heap of history with the modern republican party.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Harry needs to get the DNSC to lean on these idiots, and use every threat in the book - no funds for their primaries or election campaigns, ostracism in the Senate, parking fees, whatever. And Obama needs to stall getting stimulus moneys to their states - even redistributing it, if necessary. Every pressure possible.
If all that isn't happening, Harry and Obama aren't serious.
The Dems need to learn how to lead, and this one will be their test.
It may take another crisis in the economy. The other kinds of Sub-rime loans are coming due very shortly, which is supposed to be the other shoe dropping. Am I hoping for a Democrat version of the neocons' "New Pearl Harbor"? NO. But something needs to be done to get the Blue Dogs to pay f***ing attention.
Conservatives for patients rights? Bwahahahahahaha....oh shit, thats funny. These Orwellean fuckers are so transparent it hurts.
I can just see what they are fighting for? "You have the right to pay your medical bills with cash, check or credit card," because they want to take away your health insurance.
Can someone look and see if we really did readmit South Carolina back into the union? I would love to trade these assholes, aong with Alabama, Mississippi, Texass, and the other bigot idiot redneck states for anything. A pile of dog turds would suffice. Get these lunatic bastards out of my country.
Could you imagine what we could accomplish, without these fucknut idiot states, and their overwhelming republican representation in congress pulling us back into the 1850's?
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
I sure the last post will be nixed for language. My point is after 29 years of voting Dem. We are in big trouble. The Blue dogs will kill HealthCare. We can't beat the evil turds! i have had enough and I am sure that the new voters of 2008 will walk away and not vote. Big money , big business, Wall Street and their mouth pieces in the GOP run America. We don't matter. We are truly done as a Society.After 8 years of destroying America, they have managed to blame the Dems and Obama for it. And the Sheep in America are buying it.
So while DeMint was talking to the criminal G. Gorden Liddy about health care, I don't think I heard him offering to op out of the Congressional health care system, socialism to my mind, or did I miss something.
They don't want health care for all Americans and they don't want to give up their tax payer paid health care benefits. Creeps. My Congressman is a "blue dog" and he is waiting to hear from his constituents. Well, he will hear from me tomorrow.
The reporter didn't spell check/fact check his work properly.
It is not "Messerschmidts."
It is "Messerschmitts."
Made by Messerschmitt AG.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Messerschmi... to view the company logo with this spelled on it.
is indeed DeMented (and an increasingly dying individual 'type' - we can only hope) voice in the 'system'. Icky Ick!!
this clown is getting his data. When polls are showing ~80% of Americans want a universal healthcare, doing what he is advocating seems to be a sure way to shorten his political career.
whenever you refer to a republican call them "BLOCK AND BLAME REPUBLICANS". has a nice ring to it.
My wife and I are in our late 50s. We pay $1250 per month for health insurance from a non-profit company. That gives us up to $3000 in meds and 80% coverage for many, but not all medical costs. That's $15,000 a year. The median income in my state for 2 person families is $58,000. That's 26 percent. Add in co-pays and uncovered medical expenses, and the fact that we have no dental or optometrist coverage-that comes to another $5,000 a year. That equals 34% of the median income in our state. By definition, 1/2 of our state has a lower income. Let's say a couple makes 2/3 of the median income, or $39,000. If you pay the same for your insurance, that's 51% of your income. The rest of your income have to cover regressive taxes such as sales tax, use tax, and property taxes,and SSI if you are employed, food, clothing, heating, and rent or mortgage money, and other insurances such as auto liability. 2 persons making the minimum wage in my state, working full time, would make $30,600 a year. These are the people most likely to not have coverage through their work. They would pay 53% of their income for medical, dental, and glasses. Of course, if they are chronically ill, or have to care for children, elderly parents, or disabled relatives, this couple can't work full time. You can see the problem, doing 3rd. grade arithmetic, if you aren't a Republican or a medical establishment bought-and-paid-for Democrat.
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
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