This is what the hate from Right wing talk radio, bloggers and FOX News creates
By John Amato Friday Oct 10, 2008 8:41amI wonder if the media will ever do a cover story of the effects on our society that is produced by the right wing media. The hate is palpable with these people. But it doesn't stop in Bethlehem, PA.
As Glenn brilliantly documents, it is happening at many Republican events.
Just look at the videotapes of the angry, hateful hordes attending these rallies — screaming that Obama is a socialist; that he’s both a Muslim and a terrorist as proven by his “bloodline” and his name; that his supporters are “commie faggots”; that he’s guilty of treason; underscored by increasing racial invective and even punctuated in one case by a call from an audience member for someone to be killed. These aren’t just isolated individuals; these sentiments are common at these rallies and becoming increasingly virulent and enraged — at the rallies and otherwise:
A billboard in West Plains, Mo., showing a caricature of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama wearing a turban has caused quite a stir in town.
The sign, located south of West Plains on U.S. 63 across from the Dairy Queen, says: “Barack ‘Hussein’ Obama equals more abortions, same sex marriages, taxes, gun regulations.”
And worst of all, all of this rage and this innuendo is taking place in the most volatile climate of all — one of severe economic distress and anxiety — and these mobs are increasingly becoming convinced, because the Right and the McCain/Palin campaign is leading them to believe it, that this economic crisis is the fault of the black candidate — Obama — for making banks give mortgages to racial minorities.
And McCain's hands are soiled as well after his appearance with Sean Hannity where he joins in the Ayers mob. Since this reflects so badly for Republicans, look for plants at Obama events very soon because you never hear this kind of low brow commentary coming from them. And if a few people acted in kind to McCain, you know it would be looped 24/7 on cable.
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You've got it all wrong. McSame is well known for reaching across the aisle and ending the rancor in D.C. Just ask him!
Republicans always have the Democrats to blame. they should look in the mirror
But When He Needs an Attack, in the Neighborhood, Who’s McCain Gonna’ Call … William Ayers!
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3859
You know it's kind of funny/scary but after watching that video again this morning I was like, yeah that sucks, but thought that maybe it was only representing a small group....well the first place I went this morning, the gym, an older gentlemen and lady were having a conversation next to me and this was the gist of it:
man: they're gonna steal the election away from us, unless something big happens.
lady : what? like someone shoots him?
man: (looks over at me to see if I'm listening) he needs to get shot. I would do it myself, but I'm too old.
I told him I thought that was pretty messed up and they scurried away....but if this is the stuff SOME people are thinking and saying in a public place minus a camera getting shoved in their face, I can only imagine what Joe and Joelene Sixpack are saying around their kitchen table.
Now I have another reason to want Obama to get elected. To make at least the next four years suck for that guy.
It's getting beyond scary to downright fugly out there. I remember reading a study done with people who identified democrat and those identified republican. It was a study on fear and reactions to crisis and the study determined that republicans were on a whole more reactionary and more easily frightened than democrats.
You never see crazed talking democrats on the level of people like in that video. Radical leftists generally are informed even if it's an extreme position and can tell you why they believe what they do. These folk are just fucking nuts and far more dangerous than the radical left.
They can't kill Obama. Sure some of this pretty disheartening at times, but if they do kill Obama, they run the risk of turning him into a martyr and turning the Progressives' and Liberals' cause into a crusade.
They should know, since martyrdom and crusades are pillars of modern religion.
Then why didn't you call the fucking police or the FBI right there?? We need to get these people arrested, they are so open about their attempts to kill Obama because they are not afraid. DO SOMETHING!!!
People like that run like cowards when their jarring language is caught by somebody else. What are you going to do? Ask for their names and addresses so that you actually have something for the arriving police/FBI to investigate?
I *do* think that any persons out there catching video footage of some of the hate speech flying around the air at McCain/Palin rallies should turn all of it in to the authorities so that the authorities can set to work enforcing a presence that says "Watch what you say. We are." If the Republicans were able to do that to liberals for years just because they express distaste for being tangibly fleeced by the government, I don't see why liberals couldn't when it becomes clear that a "not-just-talking" desire for homicide is on the minds of so many Republican supporters.
My husband was having a conversation with some old high school friends last night and one of the guys made a similar remark, drawing a little crosshair sign on his forehead.
I'm torn between wishing I'd been there to tear the guy a new one, and hoping I never ever meet this person.
It appears that the increased downward slide for the McCain campaign has occurred pretty much after the Hannity interview.
Of course, it could also have alot to do with the Wall Street meltdown over the last several days.
But, your point is well taken.
In any event, while I have always believed that the Democrats had the upper hand this year entering the campaign...no on predicted what has now occurred.
The McCain campaign ran straight into a perfect storm of a country ripe for change, a horrific economic atmosphere, and a very charismatic opponent.
I could only make it through a minute and a half of those hate-filled people. They're all filled up with rage and hate from the lies the ReThugs have told them, all while completely ignoring the fact that the ReThugs got us into this mess.
Ignorance is not bliss. It's self-mutilation.
I made it almost to the end but just couldn't take any more. Did you see that one kid with a white t-shirt on? It had what appeared to be the Obama logo on it but in the logo it looked like a hammer and sickle, the old communist symbol.
I reported this yesterday with a highlight on how embarassed the USA should be in;
1- having people within its boundries who think this way and
2- what an absolute disgrace they are to the human race.
These people are Christians? These people are about to take your country back 150 years. What a mess The USA is in. Your dignity is being severly compromised and world respect for this nation is falling faster than the Stock Market.
Whenever someone makes the statement (On Rush Limbaughs show) "If Obama is elected, America better understand that there will be a huge increase in hate groups, especially the resurgence of the KKK.
WOW frigin' WOW.
Name a period in the history of the world when "Christians" didn't act like this??
Zero to 33 A.D., I think. Otherwise....
Before the Romans took over the Christian religion and created the Roman Catholic church. Look up the Council of Nicea where the Romans instituted imperial control over Christianity. Before that, Christianity represented a threat to the Romans.
Now Christianity represents hatred, small mindedness, and bigotry. Witness McCain/Palin's rallies.
Apparently they were absent during the Sunday School lessons about forgiveness and loving your neighbor.
Ignorance is bliss.
However, these people aren't ignorant, they're afraid and simply lack the ability to understand what is really going on and how they're being misled.
...and stupidity is euphoria!
Now the repugs are stirring up hatred by using Obama's middle name. Well, here you go:
Barak Hussein Obama/Joseph Robinette Biden 2008
The rethugs are afraid of the Democratic candidates' middle names!
However, they lack the desire to think for themselves and are content to be told how to be. They are made to order neocons and followers of whatever christian belief that is available to them. Because of how THEY are, we ALL may pay the price.
Really now-other than the already out of its mind right wing base, that 30% that thinks the right is never wrong, how precisely is this going to work?
Any other time, maybe. But today the president of the United States went on television to reassure folks about the economy and the stock market promptly dropped 150 points! People are losing their 401K money, they're drowning in debt, the world is in an economic crisis. Do they really think decent, reasonable people are going to CARE about this? So far the polling I've seen suggests this is backfiring hugely, that it's only playing to the base who already thinks any Democrat is the anti-christ. The only thing that makes sense to me is that, I don't know, maybe the McPalin ticket is hoping someone takes Obama out. Which of course would make them accessories to assassination, but no one accused them of being terribly bright.
This is all they have left. They can't outspend Obama. No one believes it when McCain tries to blame Obama for the economic crisis or tries to take on the position of being the Change Candidate. All that's left is mob violence. I'd like to think there are REPUBLICANS who are offended at this crap, because this is simply disgusting. At this rate, there's going to be a riot at one of these things. That'll look good on television.
I am a white 43 yr old reagan era veteran. I voted for reagan in 84, my first time voting. I considered myself a repub at the time. Over the years I came to my senses. I think the turning point was when I got out and I was trying to hold onto a job back in 1991. The economy sank then but not to the level it is now. Bush SR. was screwing me with my veteran benefits and I was struggling not to sleep under a bridge. Here comes Bill Clinton. My instincts told me to vote clinton and I did. In 1994 I started my own business and did very well for 5 years. Also Bill Clinton gave vets more benefits that reagan disallowed. IE a friend of mine got a hernia operation [5000.00] because clinton increased veteran benefits. He said he could thank Bill for the operation because he didnt qualify during reagan years but being the right wing nut that he is Bill was still a socialist communist pig. My point being these people are brainwashed, weak-minded. If you corner a RAT they fight back viciously. That is what this is. I will vote for Barack but I am also concerned for his life. He is going to win In 3 weeks but these people are vicious and dangerous. SAFETY TO BARACK 2008
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I don't know if I want to cry or throw-up after listening to that. It's true there are differences between Republians and Democrats, the Republicans I think we should be very scared of if this is how they refer to a possible President of these United States. I'm thinkng the Blue states should ust secede from the Union, let the right have their fascist little JesusLand, I for one am tired of subsidizing red states at the expense of blue states. Then they can have their little morning Joe and a 2 minute hate before going off to their pathetic jobs, who will they blame then?
They'll blame us. And then they'll invade us.
and then we'll kick their ass again, cause we're richer.
These morons, sadly are typical Americans, in the eyes of the world- inarticulate, bigoted, nationalist assh*les. These are the kind of boobs who will arrogantly boast how America is superior to all other nations, and how only we have freedom- yet they will call for the arrest or executiuon of any American who questions the war....
Luckily trailer trash like what you see in this video are in the minority here in 'liberaL Massachusetts....
TS
a proud Massachusetts liberal
They're the minority there, too.
Obama: 50.3%
McCain: 42.5%
I can't wait to the looks on their faces when PA goes blue yet again. Sorry, losers.
Perhaps we're aggregating the situation - not directly, but indirectly. We call those who are for McCain "losers," and then we wonder why they react as they do.
Let's look at it a bit more objectively: these folks see change as something bad, threatening. Because Senator Obama is African American he is an "easy" target for them to vent their fear. Ignor them, ignor any video of them. Instead, talk with one of these people, and try to get them to understand why we feel as we do about Senator (and on 1/20/09, President) Obama.
Your theory is lovely but it's not realistic. The people affected by this negative campaigning are the least likely to accept an opposing viewpoint no matter how well presented or respectfully offered.
They each have one or two hot-button issues that they're using to justify their support of their candidates and those little touchstones won't change for anything. It's a matter of pride for them, of face-saving, and for some it's a matter of needing someone to hate. These are not people who will listen to reason -- if they were they would have already changed their minds, like a huge number of swing voters already have.
They're in the minority everywhere, even among those in the crowd...most people that support McCain--in fact most people in that line-- are not ignorant, unintelligent racists. Frankly, the Left has its share of boobs, too. The reasonable among us should not be lumped in with asses. I am a moderate-conservative and voting for Obama/Biden because--in short--leadership and vision and competence trump ideology. But, there's always a large numdber of people (25%??) on BOTH sides that are deaf and blind to anything other than old slogans and talking points.
ya...that is what they said in rwanda
and then when they were told to kill the cockroaches....they did
spare me your piety
"most people that support McCain--in fact most people in that line-- are not ignorant, unintelligent racists."
Just what does an "ignorant, unintelligent racist" look like?
How in the hell do you know these people are not?
And, "boobs on the left?" I don't think you will find very many progressives calling for the murder of McTurd. And if they did they would be arrested and have their liberal asses thrown in jail instantaneously.
This is about racism and the prevaleence of wingnut Rovian hate speech in this country. I have never seen a presidential campaign become so ugly this quickly. How many conservative politicians have been murdered in the past in this country? Obama's life is in danger from the mindsets of people such as the bigots in this video, but also from individuals who ignorantly claim this is "only a minority" and the left is equally to blame, (because they have loonies too, blah, blah, blah.)
McTurd and Palin have been encouraging the racist hatred of thousands of people. The palpable and dangerous visciousness prevalent among wingnuts needs to be exposed by the MSM and thoroughly condemned.
It is simply false that this kind of hatespeech is not dangerous and/or equally represented on the left. The majority of progressives try to use reason, not lynch mob tactics.
Go read Matt Taibbi's latest on Rove, you'll learn something.
What a scary group of "Americans". You can simply tell from the tone and body language of that mob, they're willing to believe anything negative that is said about Obama, and they won't ever vote for a n#*@#r!
They scare the hell out of me. I don't know which scares me most, their ignorance or their stupidity or their anger.
This is so scary it's down right horrible.
I could only watch about a minute and in that minute I saw mostly folks over 50 repeating the same talking points from McCarthy days. Sheesh! How are they going to feel when they learn their Pillsbury Doughboy is going to steal their social security?
under the BUSH administration we're 'bailing out' the financial institutions. under the BUSH administration
we have recently granted multi-billion dollar loans to the major U.S. automakers. under the BUSH
administration a 'drug bill' was passed that is a no-bid agreement.
typical of the REPUBLICANs blame the other party for their obvious weaknesses. the REPUBLICANs live a life
of self-deception. 8 yrs. of the BUSH administration:out of control spending,mis-management of the war(s),
devalued dollar,energy prices,food prices,deregulation,unprotected borders and it's all democrats fault.
And these are the people who were outraged when Obama suggested that in tough times, people vote guns and religion ....
... who were outraged when the black community got upset about kids putting a noose on a tree on a school campus, saying it was 'just a joke' and that 'it wasn't racist' ...
... who seem genuinely surprised that black people don't order food and demand service with profanity-laced speech (and, hey, they use forks!) ...
Because I KNOW people like that! And everyone was so offended, I just could not believe it.
It is scary to think that if we elect McCain, we will go to hell in a handbasket. And if we elect Obama, the hate media will whip up even more reactions like those depicted.
To carry this one step further, the interviewers, once they got the hate reactions, then should have asked these people, "Are you Christian?" And if they said yes, the interviewers should have asked how their hateful comments squared with the second greatest commandment of Christ, "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
What I'll find really amusing is when these people who have been saying for years, "We have to support the president, because he's our commander-in-chief!" suddenly change their mind when they end up with a president they didn't vote for.
Maybe then they'll finally understand what it's been like for the last eight years.
...
Nah, never mind. They'll never learn.
For anyone that thinks this is a generational thing and that in 20 or 30 years most of these xenophobic hateful ass hats will be dead, I thought the same thing 40 years ago. I wish they could have their own country and leave the United States based on the Constitution and Bill of Rights alone.
nationalist psychopaths
BREAKING: FoxNews is just now reporting that a FORMER Muslim Outreach advisor for Obama went to a Muslim meeting recently!
Isn't that what would be expected from a Muslim outreach advisor? Otherwise what should he be doing?
I think the statement about the Muslim advisor going to a Muslim meeting was sarcasm.
That's nothing. I heard that Obama has two children by a *black* woman!
How will these citizens react to the most recent revelation?
(You've gotta laugh to keep from crying, this is all so depressing...)
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama announced that he has a half-man half-bat half-brother, Obatma.
“Obatma shares my DNA and will be uniquely qualified to understand some of the difficult issues facing mutants in this country and around the world.”
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/election-08/ob...
I was saddened when the print version of WWN stopped production, but elated when I found out they have an online version.
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama announced that he has a half-man half-bat half-brother, Obatma.
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Dr. Octagon - Half sharkalligator half man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfrShCSEg9E
Next Stop: Jerry Springer does politics!
Several Republicans that I know are emarrassed by this idiocy. They are too blind or dumb to change their votes, but the fact that they do not approve of this brazen douch - baggery is slightly comforting....
Uhhh... Jerry Springer was in politics as a city councilman (1971-1974, 1975-9176 and mayor of Cincinatti for one year, 1977).
... he was talking about how the words "liberal" and "socialism" have been demonized -- especially the latter. He said we need a democratic socialism along the lines of what exists in Sweden and other enlightened countries. Unregulated trickle-down capitalism is a cancer, and we've see how it's eaten away at the U.S.
These people are sad, ignorant, stupid and moronic. I wish they would just go away and leave us sane, rational people alone.
Their anti socialist and anti liberal rhetoric is little more than the anti communist rhetoric of the 1950s. Sweden does have a prome example of what our culture culture should be like- the way we have it now we have crap quality education and health care- and these bigoted fools are a product of that education-or the lack thereof..
To quote the great mile Malloy, 'i hate these people'
That's ridiculously generous. I'd be surprised if the percentage were five.
Amen to this.
theWalrus
BREAKING: FoxNews is just now reporting that a FORMER Muslim Outreach advisor for Obama went to a Muslim meeting recently!
Did they order pizza...or have something Fascist and unAmerican...like a taco...or a falafel?
Did they bother to report that his Christian advisers went to a Mexicon resturant, his Jewish advisers went to a staek house and his athest advisers went to Chillies.
Catch words are such a bitch. Since when have words like Liberal, Muslim, Elite or Intelligent become bad words?
I live in MO. West Plains is south central in "hillbilly" country.
This is the poorest, most evangelical, most redneck part of the state.
Ashcroft/Blount country!
I drive through their all the time on horse buying trips.
I just called their "chamber of commerce" and spoke to Joanne. Told her
they were getting some negative press and gave her the C&L address.
I stayed on the phone as she got the the site and she said "OH MY!"
It was priceless!
It's past time when all decent people in this country have to start calling out the bigots and morons in our midst!
If we look back in history with each severe economic crisis the most extreme elements tend to come out. Germany's hyperinflationary period heralded in the rise of Hitler and his Nazi party and so forth. What is seem in that video is probably the exact same thing that was seen in Germany.
"And worst of all, all of this rage and this innuendo is taking place in the most volatile climate of all — one of severe economic distress and anxiety — and these mobs are increasingly becoming convinced, because the Right and the McCain/Palin campaign is leading them to believe it, that this economic crisis is the fault of the black candidate — Obama — for making banks give mortgages to racial minorities."
Exactly. This the most troubling of all.
Racism and bigotry and fear of the other on their own are usually "harmless" to society as a whole. In good times only the real extremists are causing trouble.
But once coupled with economic crisis despair and panic spreading in the populace racism becomes very dangerous. And unfortunately theres a strong influential propaganda network in place already to fuel the hatred.
The irony in this is that, McCain, and the rightwingers, are attempting to portray Obama as "exoctic," and "not seeing America as we do," yet they promote this anger, divisiveness and hatred. What's American about this?
I swear we should revoke their voting rights if they embrace stupidity. They need to read newspapers.
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Take a look at today's GOP.
They're scary. They would have made great Nazis.
I would say that they have always been similar to the Nazis. Thier ideology is exactly the same. The only difference is the group(s)they target.
Jews were not the only groups the Nazis threw into camps. Gays, Gypses, communist and anybody that did not agree with their politics or their methods. Some good Germans had to either leave their country or wound up in death camps.
Another poster said that the people in the video were not Nazis because Nazies were smart enough to build rockets. I must remind everyone that the scientist that were working on the U2s were little better than slaves. Also the German scientist working under a dictator and fearing for their lives, stalled their work on the German A Bomb. They stalled the work until the end of the war to keep it out of Hitlers hands. American scientist working under no compulson in complete freedom created the A bombs droppeds on Japan.
I wish these people could put all the bs behind them and listen with an open mind to Obama's speeches. Listen to what he's saying, where he came from and where he wants to take our country.
I think this is the right attitude to take. It's tempting to dismiss them but it's worth the effort to reach out.
I also think that it's a good sign that the McCain/Palin rallies are turning into hate fests. First, it shows that their base of support is limited to extremists. Second, it might persuade the reasonable folks among the undecided that McCain is too extreme for them.
I look at these rallies, and Obama's reasoned replies to them, and I am hopeful.
This is frighteningly like a chapter out of the book I am reading, The Nazi Seizure of Power.
American conservatism has devolved from a political philosophy to a mental illness.
Wonder how Germany followed Hitler
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 09:03 — langx (not verified)
Take a look at today's GOP.
They're scary. They would have made great Nazis.
The Nazis dressed better.
)O(
They thought the young people were to dumb to vote.
Great point!
John McCain...darling of the lunatic fringe.
I knew that "real Americans" like these pathetic people would come out of the back alleys and woods to save the country from the "colored boy". I was openly willing to "sell out" my vote in order to keep the hate vomiting Repukes out of the White House. What a worldwide embarrassment this election has become.
We all know the adage about "dancing too close to the fire" and the potential of being consumed by the fireball ourselves....well, we're seeing it now in front of us.
Just as we are reminded about McCain's error in judgment which led to his being shot down in Vietnam, we see McCain's plane go up in flames again this week.
McCain has finally made the "ultimate error" - he has become "THEM". He, by his actions and hateful speech, coupled with the work of his surrogates this week, has finally proven himself to be an even more dangerous domestic terrorist than Ayers could ever think of being.
The projection onto Obama of an affiliation with a terrorist from the 60's when Barack was 8 pales in comparison to this man's own actions this week.
John McCain has shown us precisely how he embodies and practices those precise qualities that comprise a sick, domestic terrorist. He incited it; he did nothing while death threats were and continue to be hurled at his rallies - he, obviously, NOT ONLY CONDONES THOSE DOMESTIC TERRORIST ACTIONS BUT PROVOKES THEM.
McCain has finally become the THEM of domestic terrorism he's been trying to pin on Obama.
John McCain has violated the rules of the Patriot Act himself, as has Palin and his other pimp surrogates. These people have become the true "enemy within" - these people have become domestic terrorists as we sit back and watch.
John McCain has finally convinced americans that there is no difference between any domestic terrorist and himself. He has become "them" which will be fatal to his campaign.
McCain's charred and going down in flames for this. He has become the very "them" he's speaking about. That's always the problem as it is with religious extremists....in trying to describe yourself and balance the golden rule (do unto others and we're all the same meme), you begin to become the them of those whom you are trying to disparage.
McCain has made the ultimate mistake and he deserves to go down in flames.
Blue Lensman
It's past time when all decent people in this country have to start calling out the bigots and morons in our midst!
It's bigger than that. Republicanism has become a dangerous cult and these folks have been brainwashed. Many of them suffer delusional cognitive dissonance. They need professional deprogramming.
I can't see us talking them down but at least they're identifying themselves.
I was listening to Rush yesterday (hey...I was in my car in rural West Virginia....not much else is on and besides, if you can stomach it, it's good to hear what the "other side" is thinking/saying).
Anyway....the talk was about the hateful shout-outs at these McCain/Palin rallys and Lameballs actually put forth the theory that the hate talk was REALLY coming from Obama "plants" in the audience so the "drive-by-media" would have a story to report.
how pathetic.....
yet 100% predictable
Same old story, always blame it on someone else. That seems to be the republican escape hatch.
(((Anyway....the talk was about the hateful shout-outs at these McCain/Palin rallys and Lameballs actually put forth the theory that the hate talk was REALLY coming from Obama "plants" in the audience so the "drive-by-media" would have a story to report.)))
Only problem with that theory, Rush ... Nobody in the crowd is condemning them. And some only-slightly-less-incendiary points are being made openly and addressed to McCain and Palin and THEY aren't condemning them; in fact, they're throwing gasoline on the fire.
Why is it that, after 8 years of people being arrested for wearing a t-shirt or carrying a sign or having a bumper sticker with a confrontational message, why is it that people at Mkkkain-Palin rallies can shout out such hate-filled, violence-inciting things and not have the Secret Service and local law enforcement swooping down on them? And how can the candidates and right-wing talk radio get away with it? Is the Secret Service too busy? Is the FBI too busy?
these people are empowered by HATE instead of rational information. these people have decided what
culture club they belong to. they HATE the other club because they're NOT like them. little do they know
most of us want the same things and often agree on several issues. the problem is self-DECEPTION. these
people are told we hate them....that we want whats only good for us and they believe that. i REALLY would
like to know are doing as well as they were 6-8yrs. ago. these people will only believe what their culture
club tells them........they're fools.
I find it rather ironic, as compared with the previous story about John Stossel who was saying young voters should be barred because some of them seem "undereducated" about our system of government and the issues.
What would be the excuse for these people, who mostly appear to be at least middle-aged?? They haven't had time to read the Constitution either? In 40-50 years, they haven't figured out that what they hear/see on the media cannot be trusted? They naively believe any line of crap fed to them by "their party's" candidate? They are so stupid as to ignore Einstein ("we cannot solve the problems we have by using the same thinking that caused them...") and vote for the same old guy and the same old neo-con crap?
Disgusting!
Joe O.
If we look back in history with each severe economic crisis the most extreme elements tend to come out. Germany's hyperinflationary period heralded in the rise of Hitler and his Nazi party and so forth. What is seem in that video is probably the exact same thing that was seen in Germany.
Oh c'mon...don't belittle the German. Those imbeciles in the McCain crowd couldn't light a bottle rocket much less design and build a V-2 rocket.
But I bet those imbeciles know how to cut eyeholes in a sheet and tie a noose.
Don't underestimate them.
As I watched that, I had to keep reminding myself that this was not a scene out of a movie. This is real and it could be dangerous.
This is crazy Saigon McCain's last ditch effort. He and his parade of hate want to trigger some crazy rightwing gun nut to "get" Obama. They're thinking this is the only way to win at this point.
SARA PALIN DOES NOT SOUND LIKE MANY AMERICANS
Sara Palin sound like a idiot and a liar! Someone that talks about hate and divide lies and rumors! Saying Obama pals around with terrorist" IS A LIE! Bill Ayers was never convicted of being a terrorist"! And Obama was 8 years old at the time of Ayers stupidity! 25 years later Obama met Ayer a college Professor! SO WHAT! Now Palin does not explain her and her husband relationship to the founder of the Alaska Independence Party -- a group that has been courted over the years by Sarah Palin, and one her husband was a member of for roughly seven years -- once professed his "hatred for the American government" and cursed the American flag as a "damn flag." Where is the media question about there involvement in this hate group? Hannity and Greta don't have shows on this racist and anti-American group? Palin has a nevre to talk about Obama! Palin was a key note speaker at one of these rally of hate and divide .JUST TWO YEARS AGO''! McCain never vetted Palin! McCain and Palin is out of touch with America and the world! This involvement prove that! Abusue of office and hatred of country and McCain say VICE PRESIDENT! Horrible judgement of McCain and the republican party. This country is trying to turn the page !
I listened to about 60 seconds of Bill O'Reilly last night w. Laura Ingraham. She started to call Obama a marxist and then mentioned ACORN.
I turned it off. I had to tell my cousin not to pay attention to the hateful emails that frighten her. She should DO HER OWN RESEARCH. I remember after 9/11 the weird emails that went around. When in a state of fear you do start looking for a scapegoat or a reason for something so out of bounds.
But you have to step back from the emotion and let the rational mind take over and you must use critical thinking. I work right across from Fox and believe me if I saw any of them (I once saw Neil Cavuto) I would suggest that God (since they say they believe) does listen and they should know there are consequences to their actions. But they really don't believe in God. Because their actions are in the exact opposite from any thing I was taught.
Oh, they believe in God, all right.
- If you claim God is on your side and you win, well, God must be on your side.
- If you claim God is on your side and you lose, well, it must be because Satan is working against you, or you didn't pray hard enough, or it's God's Will.
It completely absolves them of the need to think critically and/or take responsibility for one's actions.
Thank you for finally saying something that isn't said enough.
Religious affiliations are completely irrelevant when it comes to political office, unless their religious affiliation of choice has some sort of undue pull over them. You'd figure atheists would make the best politicians, in that case.
End timers scare me more than other politicians, since if you think the end of the world is coming "sometime soon", you're less likely to make good long term decisions. "Jeebus is coming! Everyone, look busy!"
yeah that clip was completly discredited when the camera man is trying to provoke people into giving a sound bite by asking morons if he thinks those protesters should die..
Really. I don't understand why anyone supporting Obama would waste their time to "protest" at a McGoo event, except they are trying to provoke the kind of crap we saw and heard on the tape. They are doing exactly what Obama does not do - and that is lower themselves to the same level as the Repugs and try to elicit negative response.
Helping to incite nastiness or even violence is not what they should be doing - that will not help the cause - no matter who throws the first punch.
Can I call ya Joe? It really is an easy question, that if answered correctly, provides no sound bite. Now, on the other hand if it is answered honestly by these hateful bigots, it's comedy gold! No need to provoke hate and bigotry from these hockey moms and Nascar dads, it on display for anyone with half a brain to see (no offense Joe).
it's good politics.
Other than one occasion on which the camera operator focuses on a question asked by one of the protestors, we don't get to hear what's being shouted by the protestors at Senator McCain's supporters. If you listen closely, you can clearly hear that the protestors are continually shouting things at the people waiting in line, but you can't hear WHAT is being shouted.
I suppose it's possible that the protestors were all trying to engage in reasonable debate, but I think it's more likely that they were shouting insults about Republicans, McCain/Palin and the people standing in line. That would provoke some the reactions that the clip was then edited to show.
I have not problem with that, really. As I said, it's good politics.
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/The_Real_Mc...
These McCain/Palin supporters are the worst people ever!
Obama 08
Let's put the "O" back in country
Hey, he just gave them an opportunity to make complete asses of themselves and they couldn't wait to do it. Hardly the fault of the cameraman.
pissed off patricia
As I watched that, I had to keep reminding myself that this was not a scene out of a movie. This is real and it could be dangerous.
Just imagine how disenfranchised and angry some of these people will feel after Obama and the Dems win back the country. I suspect some of them will "go postal".
That's frightening in so many ways that I just don't want to think about it. Hopefully soon the economy will turn around and these people will be too busy shopping at Walmart to continue their hate fests.
However, from the looks of it an economic turn around may not be enough. I've seen this to many times overseas. It could be only a matter of time before people like those in the video turn words into violent action. The risk of acts of domestic terrorism are rising by the day as that video would suggest.
It is the last quarter of a basketball game, baseball, football whatever. The home team is down by 25 points so the home team fans (most incredibly drunk) start mini-riots all over the venue. Think English Football fans. They are losing and all they can do is be rowdy. Their children would not be proud.
Re: This is what the hate from Right wing talk radio, bloggers
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 09:02 — galmud
"And worst of all, all of this rage and this innuendo is taking place in the most volatile climate of all — one of severe economic distress and anxiety — and these mobs are increasingly becoming convinced, because the Right and the McCain/Palin campaign is leading them to believe it, that this economic crisis is the fault of the black candidate — Obama — for making banks give mortgages to racial minorities."
Exactly. This the most troubling of all.
Racism and bigotry and fear of the other on their own are usually "harmless" to society as a whole. In good times only the real extremists are causing trouble.
But once coupled with economic crisis despair and panic spreading in the populace racism becomes very dangerous. And unfortunately theres a strong influential propaganda network in place already to fuel the hatred.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8_eFDuaiUk
mcstain campaign has less than nothing.
No one who honestly cared about the country or it's people would do this to them.
It's so easy for mcstain to lie. He doesn't know or care about the damage it does. It's all about him and his win.
Disgusting miserable old git.
These hate filled criminals and their followers are all over the web, don't know about news because I don't watch TV. They are getting free press to spew and spread their cancer. I want to know when someone on our side is going to make an ad that shows that moron with her witch doctor and/or her speech to the off the wall organizations telling them to keep up the good work. We have the stuff IN HER OWN WORDS and the VIDEO TO BACK IT UP whereas they have only their own home grown hate to push with nothing else. Why are we not using that to fight back?
McPalin are helping Bin Laden's dream come true of a completely destroyed country. THEY ARE THE TERRORISTS and are continuing Bush (another terrorist) to complete the job.
scare 'em shitless with random violence.
make their money worth shit.
threaten to repossess their homes.
make their toys too expensive to play with.
fuck up their promised retirement.
start a couple of wars.
give 'em a scapegoat.
Voila! Fascism...
If "terrists" wanted to finally topple the Republic, all they'd hafta do would be launch another big, bloody, deadly, horrific 'terror' attack...
It'd fall faster than the Twin Towers...
Let's examine that...
1. scare 'em shitless with random violence
2. make their money worth shit
3. threaten to repossess their homes
4. make their toys too expensive to play with : the same as #2 + #3
5. fuck up their promised retirement : more of #2 + #3
6. start a couple of wars
Not that there are parallels. I think this discussion has gone on for long enough to warrant a few similarities. Of course, the goose stepping guys in the 1930s did a lot more than race-baiting. And they *did* blame their problems on the blacks and the Jews.
theWalrus
pissed off patricia
As I watched that, I had to keep reminding myself that this was not a scene out of a movie. This is real and it could be dangerous.
Just imagine how disenfranchised and angry some of these people will feel after Obama and the Dems win back the country. I suspect some of them will "go postal".
Welcome to the Sixties.
How so?
Here's anudder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IvPIWzQcUY
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They truly are a bunch of hamsters on a wheel....
Connecting dots is important.
The Republicans have joined forces, added assets and built resources by integrating the messaging of the fundamental christianists, who are highly obedient to the dicta of their "pastors/political leaders". Remember - many of those are now openly defying the IRS and are ordering their pastorates to vote and act in certain political ways - always neocon Republican.
The Republican party has usurped the executive branch of government in order to carry out its mission of global dominance, and to acquire ever more power and control or governments and assets.
They have always been racist, bigoted and oppressive to vulnerable populations - the aged, disabled, mentally ill, impoverished, addicted, under-educated, etc.
THey use the military as their private asset to advance their corporate aims of profiteering and global dominance in economics, trade, market share and government dominance.
So:
This hate and violence mongering is the first skirmish in fomenting a civil war which will instigate a global nuclear war.
The pieces are all in place:
Frightened and suffering populace.
World markets collapsing.
Danger of Democrats ousting a critical number of Republicans and diluting their power base.
So instead of appealing to voters to vote Republican, they are instead, inciting people to riot based on propaganda of lies, racism, economic lies, and bigotry. They appeal to all of the religious myths, and they speak in the code words of the Pentecostals and Assemblies of God.
Victory isn't about "winning in Iraq." It's about luring Jesus to return to earth via earth's final destruction.
It doesn't mean that Republicans believe this - it just means that they are using those who do believe it to act on their behalf.
And that translates into attacking liberals, Democrats (they aren't one and the same), persons of color, intellectuals, scientists, educators, the ill, the disabled - anyone who is being labelled and stigmatized by Republicans.
WHo will benefit by a US civil war?
The military industrial corporate complex.
Oligarchs.
The upper 1% of earners.
The same people and organizations that have profited during the past eight years while the rest of us suffered.
It's always the economy, stupid, and we are already paying in blood and lost lives.
The terrorists are in plain sight - they are McCain, Palin, the Republican party members.
And We ARE fighting them here, because they sent our assets over there.
Carried on a cross and wrapped in a flag.
pissed off patricia
That's frightening in so many ways that I just don't want to think about it. Hopefully soon the economy will turn around and these people will be too busy shopping at Walmart to continue their hate fests.
Hopefully they'll calm down and go back to sleeping with their first cousins.
This behavior is what the world is beginning to see as representative of the people of the United States.
Good luck with that civil war we'll all be watching on CNN.
There is something you will never hear from a Republicrat!
Its almost like it's a sickness... Some kind of screwy mass mental illness... A malaise taking hold across a wide swath of the republican party and the conservative mindset... I just don't know what to make of it really... It's definitely not our mommies and daddies Goldwater republicanism... It is symultaneously disgusting, saddening, and seemingly like I'm watching in real time one large swath of society go insane... All the lies, manipulations, innuenos trotted out by the McCain/Palin synchopants are being swallowed hook line and sinker by these same people who swallowed all the rest of the garbage that has come out of this administration for eight damned years and longer...Everything from tax cuts for the rich will trickle down and lift all boats to we must shitcan personal privacy to protect ourselves, to we must torture in order to get reliable intel... All in service to some paranoid misconception about the entire nature of terrorism and our national security... And we're all suppose to believe THAT'S a good and proper thing to do to 'ourselves'... i.e. allow spying indiscriminately for no real reason... And this is progress??? I tell, you folks, somehow some way we are losing ourselves in this din of distortion and confusion.... Maybe this is what happens
when a nation really does lose its moral compass... Maybe this mass delusion and denial is what happens when a person or groups of people wakes up one day facing the stark reality that the ideology they've been taught, have had pounded into their heads, took as personal gospal for 30 years because they wanted to believe, because some nice grandfatherly looking actor told them all this and topped it off with the cherry of 'it's morning in America'... And then it turns out to be the very ideology that is bringing them to financial and psychological ruin... I just don't know.... Maybe all the above is bullshit.. or maybe not... Anyone else got any better insights into this weird 'get rid of em all if they ain't like me mentality'????? JD
"I tell, you folks, somehow some way we are losing ourselves in this din of distortion and confusion.... Maybe this is what happens
when a nation really does lose its moral compass... "
We threw our moral compass overboard when we appointed a lazy, underachieving coke-head and drunk to be our president.
1938 Depression
2008 Depression
Germany - Rampant nationalism in a country desperate to reestablish itself as after 8 years international humiliation
USA - Rampant nationalism in a country desperate to reestablish itself as after 8 years international humiliation
Germany - Reichstag bombing
USA - 9/11
Germany - Social hunger to blame and persecute Jews for the Fatherland's depressed condition
USA - Social hunger to blame and persecute Liberals for the Homeland's depressed condition
Germany - Complete information and media control by ruling party
USA - Complete information and media control by ruling party
Germany - Unifying charismatic leader to focus and enact social undercurrents
USA - Coming soon,...
Obama doesn't scare me because he's a secret Muslim or because he's half black.
What scares me are his Obamatons, the "Truth Squads" talking about prosecuting people for criticizing Obama, and the fact that he is backed by all these rich foundations and wall st. types.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GIMhRGFfpI
Secreeet muslim man....
Secreeet muslim man....
What scares me the most is that idiots like you are living among ourselves. Am I too late and assume you have already breed?
Boosh and McCain are so fucking dumb that they fail at being real fascistii like Boosh Grandad's hero: Hitler.
I guess we are safe...
Terry740 (not verified)
I think the statement about the Muslim advisor going to a Muslim meeting was sarcasm.
Nope. I actually saw and heard it. It is just amazing.
Whatever you think of psychiatry, it is a maxim in that discipline that 1/10 of 1% of any society can be defined as crazy/dysfunctional/demented/deluded at any one time. Here is a portion of that subset of society in full flight. The best way to handle them is to cautiously ignore them. The time to worry is when a false populist with similar views arrives on the scene to whip them into action. McCain may be the "One". Palin is definitely the "One".
What is the Secret Service doing about this? Why are McInsane/Palin allowed to incite violence? Are there no rules? Don't the "powers that be" know that the moronic hate is at a boiling point? Are they sitting somewhere twiddling their thumbs?
I understand there are a number of law suits and secret service and FBI actions being taken based on the domestic terrorism statutes.
Jack...mob behavior is very much viewed as a psychotic behavior.
Group dynamics are a very interesting thing. Law enforcement agencies study it all the time.
When crowd control is utilized correctly...you generally don't see a riot.
If a riot occurs...when a good understanding of group dynamics is applied...typically a crowd can be dispersed with very little APPLIED force.
I think I just saw someone on the sidewalk to nowhere with an IQ over 100!
....no, wait, he was carrying an Obama sign. Nevermind.
just what the hell does that mean?
From: 'Country First' (Orwell would've jumped off a cliff if he were alive to see that)
To: Who wants to be a Lee Harvey Oswald (while Blackwater gets its hands dirtier)?
I pray that I'm wrong...
Once again, I see that McCain/Palin has locked up that all important Moron vote.
http://washingtonindependent.com/10456/hate-m...
Have you seen this?
It says that if you are for Obama, it's because you're a guilty racist.
:)
As one veteran to another:
IT'S ONE THING TO LOSE IN THE POLLS (AND LIKELY THE ELECTION),
. . . IT'S QUITE SOMETHING ELSE TO LOSE YOUR HONOR.
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO ALL MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM AND TO ALL VETERANS.
Rioting breaks out and W declares Martial Law? It will have to happen at least a week or two prior to elections..
..then election is cancelled.
Still needs to be one last 'shock' to make it all happen. A bombing, or some other threat to America - not necessarily as horrific as 9/11, because we don't want to actually unify the country in any way - just enough to prime the crowd.
I think the troops will roll out the weekend before, when people aren't paying attention to anything but their weekend.
Why aren't all these people who are going to see Sarah Palin at work?
Dont want to quote South Park more than necessary but
"They took our jobs! Thuy tk ur jubs! Tk r jbs!"
Low knowledge voters resort to HATE. these voters have picked the RED culture club so that's how they
identify themselves.if your NOT with them your against them. this is taken personal. you CAN'T talk to these people.....they think your lying. actually what i've seen is that they're lied to by their own people but that's
who they believe. that's WHY this country is so divided.
Civil War
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 09:14 — Annie (not verified)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P9_0JEje8k&fe...
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What needs to be done is that the Obama people need to put plants of their own in lines to McCain rally's, and if anyone's life is threatened, then do your duty and arrest them. Citizens arrest is still a valid action particularly when someone is threatening the life of a Presidential candidate.
This makes me sick, and something has to be done right now. I am tired of these people with this sort of mentality running my country into the damn ground!
we don't need to give governor's or W any excuse to call out the national guard give them a pretext for postponing/canceling the election.
They don't need an excuse. Do you honestly think they'd put it all in line and WAIT FOR US to trigger it?
Besides, where better than to arrest a bunch of terrorist sympathizers than at the polling place when they show up to vote?
Caller after caller into Hannity were asking the question, how can America vote in the anti Christ as President.
Very sad.
Rekster (not verified)
Once again, I see that McCain/Palin has locked up that all important Moron vote.
Which reminds me again of my favorite Night Court episode...Dan Fielding, who insults the bailiff Bull all the time...runs for office and loses by one vote...then realizes that Bull didn't vote for him.
"Well Dan...I guess you overlooked the mutant vote."
LOL!
Just a little levity...carry on.
to look on the positive side, maybe what this video indicates is that only the irrational, angry, and uneducated are left voting for McCain and that the reasonable conservatives are either voting for Obama or staying home this year. One can hope.
xoites defends ...
Why aren't all these people who are going to see Sarah Palin at work?
Because they haven't spent all of their government check yet.
This is probably the most hate filled, divisive, incendiary, scorched earth campaign in our country's history....while War hero and church lady say nothing.
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