Good Lord: Even the Post Office is broke
Talk about a sign of the times. The Post Office is in such dire financial straits that the postmaster general is considering only delivering mail five days a week.
Massive deficits could force the post office to cut out one day of mail delivery, the postmaster general told Congress on Wednesday, in asking lawmakers to lift the requirement that the agency deliver mail six days a week.
If the change happens, that doesn't necessarily mean an end to Saturday mail delivery. Previous post office studies have looked at the possibility of skipping some other day when mail flow is light, such as Tuesday.
Faced with dwindling mail volume and rising costs, the post office was $2.8 billion in the red last year. "If current trends continue, we could experience a net loss of $6 billion or more this fiscal year," Postmaster General John E. Potter said in testimony for a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee.
its probably because thoes GIs get to send thier mail for free from a made up combat zone!
yeah but........bush kept us safe or did he.
yes he ordered no more attacks on us by us!
Upside:
Fewer Anthrax letters?
technically no, but they were just out saying that this economic crisis was unforeseen like another Pearl Harbor.
they sure like to go back to the well a lot with that one.
I'm just saying....
Truth B Told:
But then, if that lot had been in charge when Pearl Harbour happened, they'd have declared war on China.
They're all Asians, after all.
It took this to finally get them to deliver 5 days a week?
maybe they should stop charging a bulk rate for all the junk mail sent by credit card companies....
Why do we need Saturday delivery? Stepping outside 5 days of operation is expensive for any business. This could actually solve a big problem for the post office.
Are you kidding? A lot of people can't get to the post office during the week, that's why.
What does getting to the post office have to do with Saturday delivery? Keep the branches open but keep the trucks parked.
need a Saturday to get to the post office. I spoke with my mailman and asked him about this and he says there will probably be fewer hours to work each day plus a Tuesday off. He said many people who work all week can only get to the post office on Saturday. Makes sense to me.
jesus when i was a kid they deliverd mail twice aday !
I started working for the "Postal srvice" in 1970 when they went "private" from "The Postal Department". That's when "SERVICE" disappeared from the PO.
After 12 years I was too embarrassed to look toward this as a career.
Even when they were still "new" they were talking about how they were going broke. Almost 40 years later nothing has changed. btw, 1st class letter was 4 cents.
This new proposal on top of the post office raising first class postage every year annually until it reaches 50 cents. It never stops..........
compared to many countries. Plus it is universal. They deliver everywhere. They don't get to cherrypick routes.
after they search the contents.
A bargain at twice the price in anybodys book.
I'm one of those people who thinks that 6-day/week mail delivery is way out of date. How many government offices are open on Saturdays?
Companies like UPS and FedEx, as well as alternatives like email, have decreased mail volume. They need to cut back on delivery.
What difference will it make? Already, I check my mail once or twice a week. Most is junk.
I had thought the USPS had complained earlier this decade about eBay increasing their volume.
But another thing - -
How many government offices are open on Saturdays?
Um.......Langley? They torture 7 days a week, pal.
We could make the post office into a series of tubes.
I retired after 30 years from the POST office 5 years ago . I started in the 70's and they were talking about stopping Saturday delivery the entire time I worked there. I do think the times are different and they will go to 5 day delivery . The USPS has been terribly managed for generations . There is a lot of very dead wood at the top of this massive bureaucracy billions wasted on unfulfilled contracts and bonuses given to very undeserving managers at all levels . It is a true Dinosaur and massive change is inevitable
You are correct about the dead wood at the top. Along with that, there is massive mismanagement of equipment. They buy new machines that don't do what they are supposed to do, and then order more of the same just so they can cut a few hundred jobs by attrition.
Most of the building level management have never worked a day on the floor, and have no real idea about what the functions of the staff are and when mail has to be dispatched, etc. All they know is how to count the pieces of mail and how to fudge records so they look good, regardless of whether or not actual mail is being moved.
Also, there is a union contract or two that are about to come up for negotiation in this business year. Every time the PO has to negotiate a contract they go on a little propaganda mission with the masses telling them that they are losing money, and services have to be cut.
They don't bother telling them that they LET FedEx and UPS cherry pick the routes they want to take from the PO, and that they have agreements with both companies to deliver packages that are not "economical" for them to deliver at a lower postage rate. (you still will pay FedEx or UPS a surcharge for delivering that package to...oh...Bering,Alaska or Next To NoWhere, USA, but they pay the PO a percentage of it that is actually below what the USPS bulk rate is.)
They keep saying they lost money, but they didn't. If they didn't have to pre-fund the retirement account they would have ended up in the black. They only thing for sure his Potter and his cronies are assholes who never met a lie they didn't like. The way they 'cut' expenses is to put way more work on the craft people and then turn around and create more and more executive positions. It's like working for Enron.
millions/billions wasted in iraq and financial institutions paying huge bonuses with tax money. wow the check isn't in the mail......i knew it.
Half the people could get the mail Mon, Wed, and Fri. The rest, Tues, Thur, and Sat. But deliver to PO boxes all 6 days. 5 day delivery in commercial zones. Residential can get by just fine on 3 delivery days a week.
Or you can put everyone on general delivery and have them pick their mail up twice a month.
Those clowns want us to pay 30-40 a month for the privilege of using a PO box, walking or driving to the Post Office, and sparing them the costs of delivery. Crooks run the USPS.
Try filing a complaint, over the Internet. If you call one in, you are required to call it to the office in your district, not the regional office. If you are lucky, you will find a regional number. If not, you get an 800 number with voice menu which does not have a number for complaints--or for a human interface.
Had a postman opening and stealing mail a few years ago, in another state. You cannot get rid of a bad one, and they will not let you lock that mail box you paid for and own.
no more franking for members of congress? Let them pay the same amount as anyone else.
The last time I heard from a congresscritter, the answer to my question was 6 weeks too late.
...subsidize the Post office? To cheap stamps cheap for the impoverished?
Way back when I did a punk rock fanzine that was actually mailed, I was told that stamps had been marked up 400% because Congress wasn't paying what was owed to the Post Office,... are we still doing that?Are they getting tax money AND going broke?
I think their about to get some cash?
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Study the symptoms not the virus...
The post office does not get tax money. The P.O. gets by on what it makes. The P.O. is suppose to break even, not make a profit because we are owned by the American People. Unfortunately the place is run by a bunch of nincompoops who couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag.
If anything the Treasury regularly raids our retirement funds and never remembers to pay it back.
wantbity. I retired after 35 years in gov't and I agree there is so much deadwood at the top. This was the same with every Dept I ever worked with or liased with.
Every time there are cuts in the public service it is those at the top who make the decisions and beleive me, they are not about to cut their own. The civil service, no matter what Dept, is now an inverted triangle; they have cut at the bottom and grown quite fat at the top. The president could find tons of money, all the money he needs, if only he started cutting at the top. I am not holding my breath.
Where you were in 1970? The US Postal Service was re-oganized as a semi-independent agency, teetering on the brink of privatization ever since. While its employees are not Federal workers, they are protected by Federal laws (assaulting one is a federal crime, for example). But under the Nixon-signed Postal Reorganization Act of 1970, the USPS is a business that is supposed to break-even every year.
However, they are top heavy in managment. And fairly incompetent management to boot.
The new manager at my husband's facility is a Karl Rove look alike who was relived of his previous position due to mismanagement. So they promoted him and gave him a facility of his very own to screw up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUblgY7w_7k :-P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
America's gone postal.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
:-P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I always thought Ken Berry was kind of creepy.
Funny thing though, although I can't find any Youtube clips, there was a movie in 1957 released to drive-ins called The Return of Dracula starring a terrific Francis Lederer as the Count. He murders an Eastern European artist, Belac Gordal, who's gotten permission to immigrate, and steals his papers. He passes himself as Belac to his cousins, an American family called the Mayberrys (apparently the thoroughly Americanized mother was from that country.) The heroes is an agent for an unspecified European Police Force, and an immigration official.
It's very 1950's Cold War, and has been compared to the Hitchcock movie Shadow of a Doubt with Joseph Cotton. It was also brutally violent for the time, and preceded the first Hammer Dracula with Christopher Lee. I would say it's the only successful updating I've seen of the character since Bela Lugosi, who took the story from the 1890's to the 1920's and 30's. The movie stuck on the Transylvanian prologue, and Dracula crossing on the ship the Demeter, where he murders all the seamen. In the play, there are references to him flying to England in an airplane.
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I was simply pointing to "rfd". Stop showin off :-)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
...to be pissed. Who will deliver their envelopes of white powder?
Tommy Chong?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This is worrisome for me, and for everyone else I know who suppliments our modest incomes by selling hand-crafted items on Etsy.com, as the USPS is the standard carrier for Etsy sales, especially small, lightweight items like jewelry for instance.
As it is, postage rates are constantly going up, stuff is constantly getting lost, and my fellow sellers have noticed that packages sent to customers were being opened and items stolen from them during Christmastime...
Very frustrating. *sigh*
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
The Postal Inspectors are supposed to be alert to things like mail being stolen. (this is a federal offense, and any postal employee caught stealing, which includes looking through magazines at work, is supposed to be fired on the spot and arrested.)
There are far fewer Postal Inspectors than there were 8 years ago, and they spend most of their time watching to make sure that employees are taking too long on their lunches and sneaking out of the building to smoke.
the 'Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs subcommittee'
makes one all warm and fuzzy and thinking of the RSHA
why do all these supposedly normal gov/senate committees now all have DHS prefixes, are we living in the Fourth Reich now !?
Whats the preferred salute when addressing our overlords, are there formal and informal salutes.
Want to fix the PO? Stop subsidizing junk mail. 85% of what I get is pure crap sent at reduced rates. Bump up the rates and reduce the volume of crap while raising revenue.
My second manager used to work for the USPS office at Tampa Airport, and an aunt of mine works in one of the six priority mail centers. I've also had two friends employed by USPS. I'm sorry to say, but the waste is pretty staggering. Upper management blows money on "meetings" at concerts and country clubs, but will not spring for new equipment to make the job flow better.
I agree, though, remove bulk rates for junk mail
Here in Canadia we only get mail 5 days a week, and finding a proper post office is not a simple thing...
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-George Carlin
I hope you realize we're talking about people who depend on their salaries from the USPS. Aren't we all supposed to be about jobs and job creation instead of deletion?
They've had LESS work to do, not more, since UPS and Fed
Ex have become competitors.
They've consistently raised their prices and have had the best of equipment, vehicles and building improvements and the salaries, benefits and pensions are some of the highest in the nation in spite of an antiquated failing business model
They've had their asses covered and bailed out long enough.
This is one area that should be completely privatized, and NOT subsidized.
We could privatize the P O, but the current pricing of postal rates are revenue neutral as per Congress.
Privatizing removes any restrictions imposed by Congress and rates would increase above the rate of inflation in order to fullfill the desires of shareholders.
As it currently stands WE are the shareholders.
'Talk to the hand'
The USPS is not owned by the US Government and hasn't been for years. It's a private enterprise operated in conjunction with the government and it does what every private company does best: operates inefficiently and loses money.
Needs approval from Congress to raise rates
Board of Governors appointed by POTUS
Congress approves Post Master Gen.
Franking mail privelages for Congress
No investors, no stocks, no bonds.
How is the P O considered private?
'Talk to the hand'
They do not have less work to do since FedEx and UPS. They still handle packages from FedEx and UPS that they don't want to deliver, but YOU pay a surcharge for rural delivery. My husband works at a Bulk Mail Facility, and they process packages, Express mail overload, First Class overload, and what civilians call JUNK mail.
Most of it is parcels, and they deliver all manner of mail in FedEx and UPS boxes that are going to extreme rural areas, and sometimes urban areas that are less than desirable.
FedEx and UPS are not competitors with the Postal Service. They deliver, together, about 5% of the mail delivered in this country on any given day. And they DO NOT WANT many of the less desirable routes.
Also, the UsPS is no longer subsidized by the goverment, but it is overseen by Congress. Postage, Parcel Rates and Specialized Marketing pay for the Post Office, and it turns a profit more often than not. I can guarantee you that the years that they say they are in the RED are years that they have to renegotiate union contracts.
think ill go n a diet.
They want the post office to fail. They want the schools to fail. They want social security to fail.
Because when they fail, they can point to them as examples of how "ALL government is bad" so we must privatize everything.
All the post office needs is some creative thinking. There's no reason why the Post shouldn't make money selling office supplies, rather than just being a mail dump and delivery operation.
Local businesses currently selling office supplies can get creative, finding other sources of income too, after their tax dollars bail out their new competitors, USPS. Maybe meat pies?
USPS meat pies? Ewwwww.
Not all businesses are Monday through Friday. My business runs 7 days a week and we rely on both Saturday pick up and delivery to meet the needs of our customers. While our rates have gone up year after year, those businesses that qualify for bulk rates have had to pay the same amount as they have a larger lobbying effort with the postal service. In fact, we had to start charging for "standard" shipping last summer to cover the increased costs.
Part of the problem, as I see it, is that the USPS is a quasi-government agency that as others have pointed out is almost privatized, which of course is the desire of the Grover Norquist crowd. It is pulled from all directions and doesn't quite know where to go. I think its time that we bring the USPS back into the full fold of the US Federal government and reorganize it.
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If USPS increased the rates to an amount that would cover the cost of operations, would that be so awful?
I'm turning 52 in 2 weeks and I can't remember 2 times a day. It's been 5 days a week here in Canada for a long time. Even if you work all week, your mail is still delivered to you.If you can only do your out bound on satudays, we have mini post offices in pharmacies and convenience stores that are open saturday. With the reduction in hard copy due to email,five days is enough.
p.s. Do we really need bills 6 days a week?
Eric
and the USPS ensures their boat sinks. Considering the number of holidays we don't receive mail there will be many 4 day per week delivery weeks. Our post offices in CO have cut many mailcarrier positions and the ones left deliver as late as 7:30pm. When a job is cut they split the job of a route among several carriers and lots of mail is misdelivered.
Many people receive their paychecks this way as are people on social security and disability, and OMG more Netflix delays (they don't work saturdays). The number of businesses going under in this depression will get rid of a heckuva lot of junk mail though.
The US financial reports have kept the US postal services transactions "off budget items" for years. The GAO has warned us for a long time.
Bottom of Page 16: The on-budget deficit includes all budgetary accounts other than those designated by law as off-budget. The off-budget accounts are the Postal Service and Social Security trust funds. The unified budget is a comprehensive measure of all federal activities, including those that are on-budget and off-budget.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d08926t.pdf
More interesting reading on our situation
http://gao.gov/cghome/d08446cg.pdf
Some of us have referenced this here for quite some time, but not many paid attention.
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Several people above have already mentioned that 5-day delivery is the norm in Canada.
Canada Post is an autonomous entity, government owned, but is managed as a profit making entity. Most Canadian post offices were shut down years ago and replaced by privately owned, franchised postal outlets in convenience stores and drugstores.
My local post office is a counter at the back of a 7-Eleven. It's open until 9 pm, 6 days a week. Service is reliable and convenient. Delivery is run separately from the retail franchises.
Lots of Canadians miss their old post offices, but the new Canada Post moves the mail and generates a profit, which is remitted back to the federal government. It all seems to work pretty well.
that the post office is broke when you look at the outrageous 'pay incentives' they pay their management personnel? That's Post Office terminology for 'bonus'. Nationalize the Post Office again and get rid of this neoliberal capitalist bullshit about privatizing everything.
step in a faulty stair. The past almost twenty years we have allowed the people in our government to sell out the people.
They have allowed jobs to be shipped overseas for lower wages and less enviromental controls. So a few at the top could make a lot more money.
The main flaw in their thinking is they don't get the fact that if you do not have money you cannot buy what they are selling no matter how cheap it is?
Unlike them, you have to have a job to get money to be able to buy their products.
Henry Ford understood this and started,what if had been continued would have been rock solid today.
But the people in our government have sold out to the bigmoney and no longer care about the rest of America.
We need to develope the same attitude toward them and stop sending these people back to washington to fill their own pockets!
Going to the post office and having trash left at your front door daily is so century-before-last it's laughable.
This is 2009, folks. If you don't do things electronically by now, it's time you begin.
I haven't written or mailed a check in so long I'd probably need an owners manual to do it. Ditto for going to the bank and waiting in line to deposit my paycheck or pick up a few dollars walkin' around money.
Direct deposit. ATM. Pay by debit or credit card.
Snail Mail? Geez! Think progressive!
But please take into account that there are many older people frightened by the electronic media(my 70 year old mother included). Some folks hate change....just ask any presently traumatized everyday Republican bigot.
I'm trying to do my part - any junk mail that contains a pre-paid envelope gets sent back to the offending junk mailer either empty or full of used tissues.
The f*ckers pay a reduced rate for those pre-paid envelopes betting on most people throwing them in the garbage. I say send 'em back and make those twads pay full postage. Helps the USPS and lowers the amount of junk mail I get (somehow)
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I even got a rubber stamp made (red ink) "REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST". It costs these companies more that the first class rate for the return. Of course, the companies never see the returned mail, just the fulfillment house that generates them for the firms. The FH then raises the bid for the next contract and the advertiser simply raises prices to cover the higher costs. We consumers end up paying no matter what. Ain't capitalism great?
The United States aspires to democracy, but no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power.
Less junk mail, please.
The Post Office is ALWAYS broke. Every time they want to raise the rates again, first they slow down the mail, then they start this 5-day threat thing, then all of a sudden your postage goes up. They did it last time, remember? Naw, most people can't remember what they had for breakfast last Saturday, let alone anything important. OK, so make postage 50 cents and tell them to shut the hell up already.
BTW, Naldo, there are a LOAD of things that have to be sent by REAL mail...legal documents, f'rinstance. And considering its volatility and the propensity of people to steal identities, if you trust this electronic crapola completely, you're letting yourself in for a HEAP of trouble.
While I am not blaming the Postal Workers for having negotiated good contracts for themselves, there have to be limits in these harsh times.
In any other industry where machines have taken over so much of the actual work, the cost of labor and benefits would be much lower. Managers of unskilled labor don't have to earn very much, either!
Proud DFH, emeritus!
Honestly, I'm sick of seeing bills and harassment notices in my mailbox on Saturdays. It ruins my whole weekend.
My understanding of why Tuesday is light is that the pay week runs Tuesday to Tuesday and to avoid overtime everyone is sent home early on Monday evening, not because there is less mail.
Bills and junk mail. Big deal, no loss. Hardly anyone mails a letter. Why would you? Email is almost instant. Same as the phone. Why would anyone phone long distance when there are so many software programs that you can chat for free? If it's outdated, get rid of it.
The post office has been hemorrhaging money for a decade. The Internet tubes started killing it in 1998 and now ad spam dropping since no one has any money to buy anything is the final nail.
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what is worse, ignorance or indifference?
I don't know and I don't care!
If they put all the junk mail into one day's delivery, would that economize?
This was supposed to be the new, efficient Postal Service, in contrast to the Post Office of my youth, which delivered twice a day (once on RFD) and charged 2 cents for a letter.
Once Reagan put Republican ideologies in charge of the Post Office money just flew out the door.
is not going away. Yeah yeah...technology..yada yada..bottom line...we have whole swaths of this country without internet access.
Make access to the internet free (oooh...the tax boogie man), and thus webmail FREE and THEN we can talk about eliminating the post office. Oh...and make credit cards fraud proof and ensure the viability of the banking system so that your electronic payments don't get loused up when a bank goes bust.
Yeah, yeah...I know about postal fraud. Bottom line, the country still needs the post office.
Fund the post office. Period.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Only the Bush administration, dedicated to bringing this country to it's knees, could have so greatly damaged one of OUR nations most effecient agencies.
And the next time they raise 1st class postage, don't fool around. just raise up to $.50.
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When I was still employed @ the PO I remember having 1 supevisor cigarettte smoking coffee drinking (non- productive) for every 5 workers (producers)- handling mail.
Of all the mail I have sent to my son in Afghanistan, I have received two first class letters, sent free from my son and his chief. Both were Christmas cards, thanking me for care packages I sent. My cost to send the packages? Over $50. Their cost to send me a much loved less than one oz. card?=free. I doubt anyone is going broke over that. If you had spent a minute in a war zone, you would understand how important it is to the troops to have this small perk. Honestly, while you are living on bottled water and packaged meals, do you really need to carry stamps???
I would wish the poster than made the first comment would spend one week where my son is, and then make a judgement call.
Second--having been a city letter carrier for 3 decades, I can vouch for the drop in all classes of mail. Most routes in our office are between 10 or 12 miles per day, with 550-650 delivery points. Walking. In all kinds of weather, with all kinds of dangers. We deliver the 'last mile' for several different parcel companies. We do it all.
No one in our office from the postmaster on down has any say in what goes on. It all comes from the district. It is such a jumble.
Look outside and tell me you could do what the city letter carrier does. Oh, and by the way--our week starts with Saturday, and ends with Friday. They are looking at Tuesday as a possible non delivery day because the mail volume is low. Any drop in delivery is going to be bad. From medicine to unemployment checks--the public needs 6 day delivery. Just because you don't get any good mail, doesn't mean there isn't any use for it. I could show you many examples of what the mails mean to the rest of the world.
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The US Postal Service (USPS), once called the United States Post Office (USPO) has been a GSO, not unlike Fannie Mac and Fannie Mae, since Reagan began the process of privatizing it. It is now quasi-privatized. It must now make a profit, whereas prior to Reagan it's mandate was to try and "break even"; then it was a "service" to the American public. The only part of USPS that is not privatized is the postal worker. It was decided that the USPS would remain quasi-private so that postal workers would remain as federal employees without the right to strike. There's a reason behind "going postal." In every other critical aspect USPS is a private entity. It has entered into a co-opetition (sic) with FedEx and UPS by sharing certain functions that have been traditionally carried out by postal workers, the result being fewer postal workers needed while FedEx and UPS are hiring. And the American public has been paying more, both through taxes and purchase of specific USPS products and services, while not getting anymore. What was once a good job with good pay has not been the case with USPS since Reagan. The saga of the USPS worker is another anti-government move that has been pretty much ignored by everyone.
Let them go broke, I dont care anymore- All this shows me is poor management. LEt the dead weight go, I dont care who you are! If you cant keep your company afloat then BURN!
POSTOFFICE- this is even more ridiculious! Freakin BABIES, I cant make it, I need a more dollar- .... My words from my great grand pappi- "FU" ,-
NO MORE BAIL OUT MONEY!
Oh yeah, I only have a few weeks left , and if i dont receive any money soon either, i wont be able to make my car payment. Although my car is paid, heres my bail plead.
BABIES, man- CRY , CRY , CRY- and these are suppose to be LEADERS! FU!
No more Saturday delivery and No more free rural delivery!
Here's why...
I have a business on Main Street in a small town in NJ. We don't get mail delivered to the door, we get a PO Box. I pay $40 a year for the PO Box. I walk down the street and open my PO Box to get my mail. This mail flow... is delivered from the Bulk Mail Center to my local Post Office and a clerk puts it in my PO Box. Simple right? Remember I pay $40 a year for this.
I live in the same town that my business is located. I have rural delivery to my mailbox at the end of my driveway. The mail flow... is delivered from the Bulk Mail Center to my local Post office and a clerk puts it on a delivery truck and drives it to my mailbox and puts it in it. How much do I pay for this? Right $0 dollars! Add in the cost for the gas, mechanical repairs, vehicle insurance, delivery clerks, their salary, pensions, medical insurance for them and their family, and yadda. All that for $0 dollars? Hmmmmmm
I say everyone gets a PO Box for $0 a year. You want your mail, you go to the post office to get it. The Post Office keeps the PO Box lobby open until 10pm every night. Make sure there is a well stocked stamp machine a scale, and problem is solved.
Oh... If you want your mail delivered to your mailbox at the end of your driveway...you can pay $40 a year for that service.
Problem is Solved....
And further...I was recently at a bulk mail meeting and I brought up my idea above. The upper post office management replied..."We suggested similiar cost saving ideas. The problem is congress and other politicians are not willing to make the decisions."
So place the blame where blame should be. Spineless politicians looking to get re-elected.
Get a pair Mr. Politician !
been workin at p.o. for 27 years.made $60,000.00 last year, not including benefits--some of which are 10 paid holidays, 5 weeks paid vacation, 10 paid sick days, medical,dental retirement plan etc. i,ve got no college degree. and the best part is i CANT be fired. so for all you p. o haters out there i cant blame you . all i can say is keep the junk mail flowin.
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