McCain: People call me a "terrorist" at Obama rallies, too
In an interview with CNN's Dana Bash Monday, John McCain actually said the following with a straight face:
BASH: Now, whether or not, since I know you've heard this during your rallies, since you have been talking about Ayers -- and your running mate has, also -- we've heard people in the crowd screaming things like "Terrorist!," "Traitor!," when you talked about Senator Obama -- and worse. When you hear that do you...
MCCAIN: I've heard the same thing, unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element that's in politics in America. The overwhelming majority of the people that come to my rallies are good and decent and patriotic Americans. And if they're worried about this country's future, that's correct.
But to somehow -- to somehow intimate that of the thousands of people -- 17,000 people were just with us in Virginia. And to somehow intimate that the overwhelming majority of those people, with rare exception, are somehow not good Americans or are motivated by anything but the most patriotic motives, is insulting. And I won't accept that insult.
Let's be clear here: No candidate is responsible for the random things people scream out at their events. But that's not what we're dealing with here. John McCain and Sarah Palin for the past two weeks have been making the case that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists" and "doesn't see America like they do" and is therefore mysterious, scary and un-American. In other words, they are fostering an atmosphere in which stuff like this becomes inevitable; they are "playing with fire." It is absolutely disgraceful for McCain to (a) play dumb and (b) lie about what goes on at Obama events.
Anonymous Liberal and Glenn have more.
For the sake of argument, and I hope I am not prosecuted for the following, consider Rupert Murdoch, the 109th richest man in the world, worth around 8.3 Billion dollars (declared), and as stated on Wikipedia, the “major shareholder, chairman and managing director of News Corporation (News Corp)”.
Not only is this man fitly rich, he is also one the most influential members of the American Republican Party. You might be thinking, “so what, that doesn’t mean his rightist Neo-Conservative propaganda hampers the un-biasness of his media organizations”. Let me put it this way, the man owns Fox News. Need I say more? For our readers who have not had the pleasure, or the misfortune, of watching Fox News, they are the masters of misinformation. They constantly mislead the American public on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, links between Saddam and Al-Qaeda, they propagate islamophobia, Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly single handily brainwashed the majority of Americans into believe that patriotism meant supporting the war, and I quote “Shutting up” if we did not agree with the Bush administration policy of bombing Iraq, killing over a million civilians, sacrificing the lives of 4000 plus American soldiers, maiming millions of Iraqis and creating the largest refugee crisis in the ME since Israel’s creation.
Am I missing something? Has anyone read or viewed any stories on any MSM about anyone yelling "terrorist" about McCain at any Obama rally? Or (gasp!) is McCain lying -- again?
Just one more reason why this man should not be president.
Answer to question one ...... NO.
Answer to question two ...... YES.
You see there lips moving and yep, they're lying. Of course, McSame is a pathological liar. Anyone who can flipflop that much, womble, veer, careen, swoon and dither while picking a psychotic jackanape like Sarah Palin is a born liar. Look how he promotes the lie Palin tells, his little pitbull with lipstick, that Troopergate seems to have exonerated her!
Their supporters are the incipient nazis we have known all our lives. Whose predilections have been kept at bay by adequate quantities of gas, doritos and beer.
They are being stoked expertly by the Palindrone/McSame team.
Since I was a child, I always thought demonizing Hitler risked a complacency that it was just there in Germany, just then, just that one aberrant horror of a "super human." Hitler was indeed nothing more than a very common, ordinary human--which is what makes his and Mussolini's ascendancy in the face of corporate fascism all the more profoundly horrifying. It CAN happen here and we are at greater risk than ever in our history that it may:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...
So will we see that seed of hatred flourish into fascism? In some respects (unfettered "free market" capitalism), it already has.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081013_...
There is a book that really illuminates this. It is called, "People of the Lie", by M. Scott Peck, author of "The Road Less Traveled".
The book is about how ordinary people become truly evil people, and it all boils down to lies. People, like Palin, who lie to get their way, and getting their way is more important than ANYTHING else.
It is chilling to see personal evil multiplied into a social phenonenom, which is what the last eight years have been and which McCain would continue.
Even now, as everything crashes around them, the liars who brought us to where we are now are busily positioning themselves to place the blame on anyone but themselves.
That's at the bottom of today's "ACORN" scandal - finding a way to blame the economic crisis on the one group that had the least to do with it: poor minorities.
Evil people always try to place blame on those least likely to be able to protect themselves.
Thanks for the book tip. I read The Road Less Traveled when I was young and there were ideas in it that changed my way of thinking and helped me immensely.
That said, I think McCain is trying to keep up with his running mate in the lying game. How can he even BELIEVE what he says? And notice now how he has twisted it to say that if you point out the ugly things people are yelling at these republican rallies then you are accusing ALL of the supporters of being "unpatriotic." The puppet has some very clever evil handlers, that's for sure.
no you aren't missing it. it never happened
As if it would be passed up by the blogs or the MSM if people were yelling this crap at Obama's rallies.
But, further proof that McCain hasn't seen anything of the sort and is lying through his teeth, anyone who watches Obama rallies would have seen Obama directly address even just "booing" from the audiences at his rallies.
I have a theory that McCain/Palin's principle support comes from liars, a group which never self-identifies and is not polled as a seperate demographic.
I think liars look at McCain/Palin and take heart at the thought that someone "just like them" can win, or steal, the election. And that makes them feel better about themselves.
How else to explain any remaining support for them when they keep spouting the most obvious, easily checked lies? Like Palin blowing off the Troopergate report and claiming the report completely vindicated her and found she did absolutely nothing illegal, which is the complete opposite of the report.
That kind of in-your-face lying takes more than just balls, it takes a bullying streak that dares anyone to contradict the lies, and this has been working for McCain/Palin. The MSM hasn't been challenging them on any of these lies. When McCain delivered that whopper, he wasn't confronted on it, which to him probably means he won the moment.
Anyone see Rachel Maddow last night? Neo-con tool, David Frum, tried to equate Rachel's show with the racist crap being spewed at McCain rallies. How could he claim that? Because Maddow is "sarcastic".
So, according to Frum, anyone who is sarcastic or laughs at something sarcastic at an Obama rally, is doing exactly the same thing as the racists at McCain ralliies. Another lie from another liar. Maddow wouldn't let it go, and pegged him on the "false equivilancies" arguement, which was what he was attempting to do.
Maybe some talent at Fux News will go back and add one of those yells into the crowd noise.
John McCain a terrorist? Naww... a war crimminal, maybe, but not a terrorist.
Preachin to the choir bro-man!
Fox News is the propaganda arm of the GOP. And Murdoch should be banished on pain of death from this country for helping the GOP destroy it.
As for McFlail...what a desperate POS he has become...almost sad...almost.
Actually that is a quote for the foreign press. Every evening I read several foreign newspapers and like to remind the USA that the World is Watching.
All Nations, except one or two, think Bush is a fool and McSame is dangerous. And even they know that FOX is a Republican Propaganda Mill.
You would be the typical Obama cultist then..You want other countries to rule the US...want to go back to being under English control? or do you like another country to be in charge of us?
No one wants the US to be governed by another country. Why would you say that? Is that another right-wing radio talking point? You are the cultist! But some of us would like the US to gain a little respect back from the rest of the world. Remember that old line on our kindergarten report card, "Plays nicely with others?" Well I'd like the US to play nicely with others and not be the bully on the playground.
To be frank, the English have a much better parliamentary system and conduct their elections with a much better tone. Barack Obama is popular in other democracies because he is respectful and intelligent. Sure he plenty of ambition and ego, but I'd hardy call those who are going to vote for him cultists -- they want a smart guy with ideas in the Oval Office. And since when has that been such a bad thing?
So, when the proverbial sh*t hit the fan big-time, it was the British plan for saving the World Economy that was adopted, first by the European nations without any disdain or delay, and then by the USA when Wall St saw the sudden and dramatic return of confidence to world markets that the British plan ignited.
No need to say thanks. Just remember who it was that saved your debt-ridden asses this time.
More evidence of the bullshit and lies spread by the McCainiacs.
Any evidence for your argument in the post to which you replied? No.
Any evidence for McCain's argument that he is called a terrorist at Obama rallies? No.
Do you live inside Jonah Goldberg's head, or his ass?
Hey, Einstein ....
... Rupert Murdoch, who owns News Corp/FOX News, is a British national.
... we have this fascination with selling stuff off to Dubai (like port security)
... foreign banks own a significant portion of our debt.
And this is happening on the GOP watch. So who's selling out what to whom again?
Actually Murdoch is an Aussie not a brit.
He was born in Australia. He made his fortune in the UK. He moved to the US and took citizenship because his Australian nationality prevented him from owning media companies. BTW he also sued his mother to get the lion's share of his father's estate.
What a classy guy. There is absolutely nothing he won't do for money and power.
Hey moron, better put all your newspapers down and look out your window. 5000 people A DAY come to America from their repressed nations to be free, like us. Who gives a crap what their newspapers say, USA is the land of the free and the home of the brave. Evidently you've never served your country cause' you sure hate it. And you've never traveled the world and have never felt the appreciation of coming and being home again. Read your dumbass newspapers. Obama and the Decocratic Party is a train wreck just lookig for a set of tracks. Democrats hate America!
nope. we just hate you.
That guy is one dumb klutz. There's always one. On this thread it's him.
All of us Democrats would appreciate it if you would quit talking out of your ass
There's always a fridge element that's in politics in America
Well, Bush might well have said "fridge", but I'm guessing McCain said "fringe".
in airports, on airplanes, and other places.
From time to time, when I over-indulge and don't exercise, I too become part of the fridge element.
probably doesn't want to discuss this tomorrow night but if mccain brings it up i do believe obama will turn this on him.
BIG TIME.
You xan be sure that Barack has prepared an appropriate response that is simultaneously civil, articulate and scathing.
really sen mccain? you've heard the same thing said at Obama rallies? really? have you been sneaking around in the crowd at Obama rallies? no. have you sat and watched tapes of Obama rallies? maybe. as the above poster said, and other posters on other sites, nowhere in any of the myriad of clips of Obama speeches/rallies...NOWHERE...are there cries that go out such as those that are screamed in your presence. this man has proven once again that he will do and say anything in order to curry favor with voters. re. damn. diculous.
If you think crazy Obama cultists havn't called McCain a terrorist, well you are either one of the cultists or you live in a fantasy world full if unicorns and hope and change and socialism.
In case ya been livin in a cave or under a rock perhaps...the only crazy cultists I've noticed are decidedly in the McFlail/Plain camp.
Flag waving, bible thumping loonies.
I'm sure there are some Obama fans that may get a little fevered now and again...but NOTHING like those who support McSpain and the Ice Queen.
Those folks are dangerous.
I'm going to have to go with the cultists who overlooked a man who spent 20 years in a racist church...A man who is friends with a terrorist....a man who hasn't done anything of value...a man who is a self admitted socialist..a man endorsed by terrorists around the world...the people that support that are cultists...and they turn a blind eye to it.
Those are the facts...sorry your world doesn't work with them.
You'd be taken a lot more seriously if you didn't exaggerate and lie. (1) The United Church of Christ is not a "racist" church, but is a pretty open and accepting church. Do you know anything about the church other than two blips taken from Rev. Wright's sermons? (2) There's a difference between "friends" and acquaintances. That so-called "terrorist" you refer to was named Chicago's Man of the Year a couple of years ago. (3)Hasn't done anything of value? You're referring to a United States Senator, a graduate of Columbia University, a graduate of Harvard Law School, president of the Harvard Law Review, community organizer for a coalition of Chicago churches, professor of constitutional law, author of two extremely well-written books, a state legislator for several years, and a self-made man, unlike Bush and McCain who've had everything handed to them on a silver platter. Judge Obama on his qualifications and stand on the issues, not on a bunch of right-wing untruths.
Got anything other than Fox News propaganda to support your assertions? Do you know diddly squat about Trinity UCC or the UCC denomination in general? And to say that Obama hasn't done anything of value...well, let's stack that up against, say, Governor Palin's record, eh? Let's stack Obama's years of service to the poor and dispossessed against McCain's and see what we've got. But hey, don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of your utter and complete lack of logic.
The only reason your posts are allowed is so the rest of us can see how stupid and irrelevant you rightwing trolls are.
On November 5th, you can all kiss Obama's ass.
You are a retarded liar, and a idiotic steaming pile of s**t! The point is, that McCain/Palin are stoking this response. God are you people fucking stupid!
And the "socialists" are in the republican party and Wall Street stealing whats left of our country! Are you on a vitamin regimen of some kind that makes you this cluelessly ignorant, or is it genetic?
Thank you for proving my point that the Obama cultist turn a blind eye to the truth and then respond with insults. The Dems have being pushing for the "Spreading of wealth" forever and that is socialism. Now Obama has even said that he wants to spread the wealth..thus a self proclaimed socialist. Not I expect you to insult again and turn a blind eye to this so that you can continue worshiping your messiah.
Your stupidity proves your point.
Thank you for proving my point that the Obama cultist turn a blind eye to the truth and then respond with insults. The Dems have being pushing for the "Spreading of wealth" forever and that is socialism. Now Obama has even said that he wants to spread the wealth..thus a self proclaimed socialist. Not I expect you to insult again and turn a blind eye to this so that you can continue worshiping your messiah.
Which do you prefer? Funneling all our wealth to the top 1%? Or insisting that working people make a living wage and that CEOs don't suck all the wealth out of our corporations for themselves? Are you a CEO of a corporation making tens of millions of dollars? I assume that because you're anti-socialist, you won't be applying for Social Security benefits or Medicare when you retire because that's "socialist" you know.
You guys are rich. Obama will win, and the poor will get poorer when the rich leave the country because that are giving over 50% of their earned money away to the government. Women and minorities will suffer, and will deserve it because they voted this socialist in. LOL. Justice will be sweet.
People who come in here to troll for emotional hits are always "anonymous" or not verified.
People on the internet are all anonymous...unless Funny is your real name...so I guess you are a troll by your own logic. Please try again.
When Obama wins, maybe you can leave with the rich.
LOL. Thats a good one. Unfortunatly I will be in the poverty created by Obama, and will not be able to leave with the rich. Still..I will die doing the dance of I was right and now America falls to Socialism.
Obama will win, and I will be right...63% tax is wrong and will drive rich to other countries where they can keep their money.
Yeah, just like in all them poverty-riddled socialist European countries where they actually do pay 60% and up in income taxes. Oh wait, reality says otherwise.
Now, I'm all for a 60% marginal rate, at least, but Obama's a centrist, and wouldn't raise it past 40% tops (nor could he).
You lose! Try again!
Listen goof, if you can truly predict the future, do something useful and hook me up with winning Mega-million lottery tickets.
Not surprised thats all you got..seeing how you don't want to believe anything that would mean your messiah is wrong. Try again because you have failed.
All we got is facts and figures. Can't refute your nonsense based on that. Silly us.
I love the smell of troll fear in the morning. It smells like victory.
Failed to convince a fool who doesn't mind four more years of lies, bullshit and abject hell from a bitter, angry, answerless old man and his wicked staff assistant? Every poll I've seen shows that you and your cesspool message have failed to reach anyone but the clearly frightened right wing racist and wacko's who would gladly vote for Charles Manson over the "messiah"(colored boy)....Lol.
LOL..I just gave you guys the facts and you said your messiah doesn't lie. We will see when we all have no jobs and money...the messiahs doing.
I knew kicking this site was kicking the Dems nest...Bees..Bees...the are mad little things.
Anonymous, you really need to grow up. Why do you enjoy irritating people?
Messiah? Bush was your messiah you religious zombie and look at the results.
i get it! our troll is a lobbyist! or maybe an exotic-real estate-derivative hedge fund manager!
either way, yeah, you might be headed for some well deserved 'poverty'.
LOL "the poverty created by Obama..."
the ignorance of some people is breathtaking.
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u r totly rite! OMG, increased poverty and decreased civil rights is such sweet justice!!1!
I doubt that a slight increase in tax structure to make it slightly less regressive will drive anyone with half a brain out of the country. Have fun in your Argentinian exile!
Over 50% is a slight tax increase? Get real.
Sorry, you're just not in the same reality as the rest of us. Do you even know what the top tax rate is now, or what it has been historically?
Heres a bit of truth for you cultists:
Obamas plan would boost the top marginal rate to well over 55 percent—before the inclusion of state and local taxes—resulting in many individuals seeing their marginal tax rate double.
In other words, people who make over $250,000 with a business to run will have to pay over 50% of that $250,000 and then pay for the expenses of the business...lets see how many jobs you have after that.
Dude, you keep asking for proof. What evidence is there that Obama would want to and would be able to raise the marginal tax rate to 55 or 60% (you keep changing your wildly pulled-out-of-the-ass number).
There is no doubt that your predictions are wrong, but if you feel that you have to leave - go. We will be much better off without you and your kind.
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Adolf Hitler
No no, let the troll stay! We all need the comic relief these days.
There is a big difference between marginal tax rate and effective tax rate. Marginal is the starting point and effective is the actual amount paid. Everyone I know making over $250K invests heavily and receives a significant income in the form of capitol gains and dividends which are taxed at 15%. Increasing the marginal rate will give more incentive for investment, which equals more business capitol and more growth.
FYI, tax credits don't help people who don't pay taxes. i.e. struggling families whose effective rate is $zero. The IRS can't can't give a credit if no taxes are paid.
Learn your stuff instead of firing off talking points.
As for business. Taxes are only paid on net income. Which means that a business is only taxed on the amount of profit generated after all expenses are paid and deductions are taken, not on total revenue as our friend, anonymous, suggests. So Obama's plan would only increase taxes on business that are in the black, i.e. making a profit, of more than $250K per year. Further, his plan gives tax credits for job creation . (A proper use of tax credit)
Learn your facts. You look less stupid that way
Hey, Anonymous idiot. And where exactly would the rich in this country go so that can have a better life? Mexico, Canada(you know that place with socialized medicine), anywhere in Europe where they would have a sensible tax rate and OMG, where corporate CEOs have a cap on their pay. You throw out your pathetic comments and think they make sense. Why don't you try THINKING every so often and read some books and stop basing all your information on what FOX news and Rush Limbaugh feeds you...
Think about what banks they put there money now....out of the US...why? To avoid our taxes...LOL. You lost binaryfinary...if that is your real name.
Stop drinking the cool-aid. Sorry the facts don't work with what the messiah is telling you.
Also, all you FOX crazy haters out there..its been proven over and over again..the media leans left.
The banks ( who under your anointed President Bush, are now NATIONALIZED because of his wonderful economic policies) don't put their money overseas moron. It is the wealthy who use Cayman Islands accounts, along with drug dealers, to shelter their money. And if you want a comment on the tax rate in this country, check out what Warren Buffet ( now currently the richest man in the world) had to say about the tax rate here...you might be surprised you troll.
"You lost binarayfinary ... if that is your real name."
Strong words from a troll who uses 'Anonymous' to post drivel.
And FOX isn't the media? Horseshit. Murdoch owns television stations, newspapers, and radio stations. Oh, and if you want to get rid of the 'media bias,' we'll gladly reinstate the Fairness Doctrine.
Sorry if that doesn't match up with your cranial-rectal worldview.
Thanks for the morning laugh. Your comments are so ridiculous, and I will share them with others who also need a laugh. Your stupidity is refreshing. When you open your mouth and try to talk does it sound like you are farting? Because these past few comments from you had to come out of your ass.
I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
Adolf Hitler
Why are we arguing with an "Anonymous" poster?
NOBODY 2012
This seems like another false equivalency, at best. Even if some people attending Obama rallies say "kill McCain" or whatever (which I doubt), the situation has clearly not been comparable. No screaming during Obama's speeches, no turning a blind eye by Obama himself. In fact, the last time Obama mentioned McCain's name and got boos from the crowd, he stopped it right there by saying "we don't need that."
Proof?
Any of Obama's Rallies, you will notice that if the crowd even boo's he tells them "we don't need that, we just need vote"
Do you have any proof of this. I have watched Obama speeches and rallies...I have never heard him say that. Can you prove that he did?
your a very "Typical" type of troll.
Link Like most you don't do your checking before you come with both sets of cheeks firing.
LOL. Typical troll..thats all you got. I asked for proof..you gave it, and I thank you. Thats how grown ups talk. One makes a claim...then has to back it up with proof.
Wow, you dems need to learn. Thank you for the proof.
That was a lead for you to follow. Do your won searches.
The Facts are out there if you look. But you don't really want it, so forget it. Go watch Sean or Bill and get your "facts" from them.
And with that, don't bother replying, you lost my interest.
Must be playing video games and watching Fox too many hours of the day! Military abroad gave to Obama over McCain six to one because they don't live in such an insular world.
The repetition of the talking points is a sickness. And the cult-like repetition of fearmongering, mind-numbing buzzwords is ridiculous. This country is in a real mess. Defending the indefensible is a cult-like behavior. It's similar to a battered wife who keeps defending the husband who bruises her face.
When Democrats get back in control perhaps we can put respect for democracy and its checks and balances back into our education system as opposed to the "Jesus Camp" that now dominates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD2Hyiitpys
Jesus Camp, Fox News, trolls, same thing.
Yep, it happened just yesterday. They have shown it several times this morning on tv.
No one at an Obama rally cares enough about McCain to call him anything but wrong.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
talking points.
My favorite part of this clip, though, is Obama's deft retort to the recent ugly tone of the campaign in the opening moments: When he mentions McCain and boos break out, Obama says: "No, we don't need that." The boos stop. He then adds: "We just need to vote, that's what we need to do."
http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/obama...
We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress.
- Will Rogers
I would have liked to see more of the interview to see if Random Blonde Reporter #3 from CNN actually challenged McCain on his bold assertion (lie) that we hear the same things from the Obama rallies.
McCain: Old, irrational, dishonest... Oh, did we mention also a POW? So, you know, McCain gets a pass for anything he's done in the last 40 years.
Kinda like a pass for attending a racist church for 20 years...kinda like a pass for hanging out and still hanging out with a terrorist...someone gets a pass for being black, when in fact hes more white than black.
Oh boy. More black than white? I can't even respond to the rest of your nonsense because of that scientific gem. I think you might be more dinosaur than human.
Those are the facts...you can turn a blind eye to it if you want...but its still true.
I love the playing of the race card to get out of a tight spot. Its a shame that the race card actually works in grown up world.
You mean McCain hanging out with Cheney? Cheney has killed over 4000 Americans. Ayers how many? Who's the bigger terrorist, Cheney or Ayers? Obama doesn't pal around with Ayers but McCain's party is the party of terrorism. He's a proud member.
You desperate .{Deleted SM}......are scraping the bottom of the roach shit barrel bring back Rev. Wright, lying (with no proof, of course) that the Obama crowds(who are clearly giddy...were kicking you guys ass) are just evil....how pathetic. Obama/Biden 08'...learn to enjoy it...dumbass.
Do you mean kinda like hanging out at a heretic chuch as palin does?
Listen, you miserable piece of Republican crap, the UCC is NOT a racist church, quite the opposite, they advocate progressive viewpoints such as social justice and equity, which fascist pigs like you have never heard of.
How do I know, you ask? I BELONG to one of their churches. Why don't you check things out before you post your toxic waste--oh wait, that would actually require you to think, which is far beyond your Neanderthal capabilities.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
Can Mr. Straight Talk produce a tape of these people? Didn't think so. But Republicans are low enough to plant someone at the next Obama rally so they can say see! They do it to!
Republicans are scum of the earth and will say and do anything no matter how low.
And this is why I believe that Obama cultists called McCain an terrorist and asked for his death.
I disagree with Dems on most everything but I don't call them the scum of the earth like a child would.
Then you must mot be black, or gay, or brown, or non Chreestian, or any other host of groups of Americans who have been kicked in the teeth by these vile and repugnant divisive mean sprited people who have wrecked out country for their own political and financial gains.
Now scoot along to your next Palin/McCain rally with your Obama monkey troll.
I give facts...you give insults...sounds like I am insulting your religion...oh, wait I am. Try again..try using facts little boy.
What makes you think I'm not a girl? I guess only boys can have an opinion?
Fact: You're a troll.
Where in your post did you gave a single fact?
Dude, don't think so high of yourself. As much as you would like it to be; your opinions are not facts.
I love the desperation coming from the trolling wing of the GOP. Projection and ad hominem insults is all you have been reduced to. LOL.
I haven't heard, read or seen anyone call McCain a terrorist, least of all Obama, yet it's a regular occurrence at McSmear/Palin rallies. That's all I need to know.
Yesterday, when some booing started, about McSmear, Obama said, "We don't need that." And it stopped, before it got started.
(I see you chose to remain anonymous.)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
"I believe that Obama cultists called McCain an terrorist and asked for his death."
I think you've demonstrated that you'll believe anything that Rush and Hannity feed you. But just because you believe it doesn't make it true.
"I believe that Obama cultists called McCain an terrorist and asked for his death."
I believe the moon is made of green cheese.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
But you don't have any proof.
Can't have it both ways. You can't come here and browbeat the liberals for not taking proof, then pull claims out of your arse in the same fashion.
And you won't call us 'scum of the earth,' but you'll insult our integrity, honesty, intelligence, call us terrorist-loving, and racist; you'll cast aspersions on Obama's genetic makeup.
Seems to me you're a hypocrite of the first rank.
"I believe that Obama cultists called McCain an terrorist and asked for his death."
You come out with derogatory terms. Shall I call all McCain supporters "Cultists who writhe on the floors in orgasmic bliss whenever he speaks"?
I don't believe McCain's claim that he, a rich white conservative GOP, has been called a terrorist by Obama supporters.
McDummy lies so much he isn't even aware of it. The #1 enemy of America is republicans and their leaders. America does not allow dictators and out they go.
But they love socialism....which by the way has collapsed other countries. "spread the wealth Obama"
Have you seen what almost a decade of conservatism and Republicans controlling all 3 branches of government has done to this country?
You really aren't very bright are you?
A decade of total control, after twenty-eight years of near-total control, let's not forget. This has been a catastro-fuck long in the making.
Seems to work fine for the UK and Canada...
Try again.
And really...your feeble attempts at spewing the RNC talking points are cute.
But you're talking to adults now Sparky.
Go play in the street.
Really they worked ok? Can you provide proof?
The GDP of the EU is now 20 to 35% higher than the US. Their currency has gained over 40% value in most cases in the past decade.
The life expectancy in the EU on average is longer (by far) than the US.
The EU has been able to execute things like the A380, the LHC, and the Chunnel. Projects that we either don't have the infrastructure, the know-how, or the funding to do.
The countries with higher per capita income than the US are all for the most part socialist societies.
Sorry, I used big words, let me break it down to you: The US is no longer the place where people have the highest salaries, the most valuable currency, or the largest economy.
How do you like them facts troll?
http://members.tripod.com/gopcapitalist/socia...
Some reading for you. At least we are seeing that the Dems who are voting for Obama are now coming out and saying they want socialism
The McCain/Palin campaign organization are behaving like terrorists because they are attempting to strike FEAR into the American electorate.
They are BLATANTLY stoking fear with their WORDS which is akin to shouting out "FIRE!!" for no good reason in a crowded theater.
Sarah Palin's Witch Hunting Preacher Muthee scares the living Bejesus out of me with his "laying on of hands" to her and "showing her a way" to become Governor and now V.P. This is a guy who exorcizes witches for God's sake!!
On the other hand, Rev. Wright was preaching a sermon and witnessing to what the U.S. government is doing militarily in foreign lands. He was asking his congregation to question the thinking and judgment and actions of the U.S. government. He is witnessing, as Jesus has emplored Christians to do, to the teachings of Jesus. "Love one another as I have loved you," has everything to do with our tax dollars being used to murder innocent Iraqi children and NOTHING to do with running so-called "witches" out of town in Kenya!
It must be very painful for these poor Republican trolls to see their party choose a loser like McCain as their candidate for POTUS. Then it must further pain them to have their loser candidate make such an idiotic and dangerous decision to choose Sarah Palin as his running mate. Had Sarah Palin been Gov. of Alaska with the same family, history etc. and been 5'3" tall, 200 pounds and ugly as a stick, does anyone in their right mind believe he would have chosen her as his running mate?
He chose her because his campaign convinced him he needed some pretty eye candy to get the voter's minds off him! And it's worked!! No one talks about John McCain! Sarah Palin is the IT girl!
But, alas, the collective stupidity, hatefulness and blatant fearmongering of the McCain/Palin campaign is bubbling to the surface just in time for Election Day. Bradley Effect or no Bradley Effect, I don't believe there is ANYTHING that can be said or done at this point in time that will stop the American electorate from punching their cards for Obama/Biden.
This is the most critical election of our lives. Our ship of state is floundering in unnecessary wars and seas of economic red ink. We are on the brink of literally becoming irrelevant internationally. If we didn't have 50,000 nuclear weapons and a nasty military industrial complex to force our rotten agenda down other countries throats we'd already be a third world country to be ignored and ridiculed.
We need more than mere CHANGE. We need a SEA CHANGE. A DRASTIC CHANGE. A REVERSAL OF COURSE.
The Republican Party needs to be sent away in shame along with it's current Administration. And frankly, The Democratic Party needs to get the message that the American People have had it with the fact that the Democrats have sat back, "going along to get along" with Bush. Which is one of the reasons I am cheering for Cindy Sheehan to oust Nancy "I love George Bush" Pelosi from office on Nov. 4th! I'd like to see LOTS of Incumbents lose their seats even if it means having ordinary, Patriotic American "Independent" candidates like Sheehan elected!
Enough is a freakin' 'nough already!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Agreed. Al-Queda and Americas other enemies post a distant 2nd in threat level to America, the GOP is and has been America's number 1 threat for some time now. Bin Laden could only bring down the twin towers. The Republicans have brought done America.
LOL. I agree that the Republican have done nothing to reverse the policies that the Dems have put in to bring down the States. Like the housing loan problem right now.
John McCain, is that you posting here under the name "anonymous"?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
McCain can't type, remember? He wasn't able to learn how to type for five and a half long years.
That thing is just your garden variety troll. Still obsessed with Clinton's mighty member!
LOL...
Rush Limbaugh give you that talking point to regurgitate?
Simple troll.
No, the just tried to overthrow the last sucessful president this nation had, Bill Clinton who left us with peace and record prosperity. Now we have record debt and 2 failed wars. That's how much Republicans "love Amurika".
Yeah, Rush also had to provide them with the answer to the "Please calculate" question so they could post here.
You know what? It sure seems as though you actually believe your own filthy anti-American lies. The policies that were "put in" that screwed our economy were actually republican deregulation of policies that WERE really put in place by Dems to fix the last time republicans set up American citizens and taxpayers to be robbed by their republican corporate pals. You really are one nasty America hater aren't you. Your greatest regret is that prescott bush didn't get his way on having the US enter WWII on Hitlers side isn't it? Todd why don't you get back to writing your National Alliance and AIP tacts and quit attacking the United States of America.
Here's an account of a discussion on this topic as it took place on parallel earth #6738.
I Guess Obama's Really Riling Up The Crazy Libs
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3955
LIAR.
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McCain is a bully and a coward.
He won't accuse Obama to his face with "terrorist" charges... but his campaign, speaking FOR HIM, does it every day in his advertising and in Palin's speeches.
Also, McCain sez in interviews and on stage that he wants to run a clean campaign... then comes up with this bullshit about Obama's crowds. He's shooting from the hip... not caring where his bullets are landing.
If ANYone at a single Obama event had said anything like this and been caught on tape, it would have been played repeatedly by FOX News and all the far right talk radio shows.
This is why I don't believe McCain. There is no way that Fox would not have played tape of somebody calling McCain a terrorist. It would be on every show, all day long. They have nothing. But, of course, that kind of logic is lost on the republican mob because their independent thought processes no longer function. Instead of looking for evidence they stop at McCain's (or his surrogates') word and accept all. There is no liberal bias in MSM because it is corporate-owned. The MSM no longer investigates other than see what the other outlets are playing and doing the same.
Oh Johnny, why do you have to lie like that?
The Straight Talk Express has officially derailed. There are no wheels... no seats... no steering wheel... just a cardboard box that Johnny is playing with in his backyard.
We've been looking for Obama or someone to help put an end to Conservative policies and economics and Johnny is doing a pretty bang up job all by himself.
*Added: John, you were probably called a 'terrorist' based upon your own criteria... What else to call someone who bomb civilians from afar?
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
is mcstain referring to people in Alaska or just people with cold hearts?
McCain is out of touch. He doesn't get the real world. Someone should inform him that scared and frightened people are like scared and frightened animals. They attack. His campaign is playing into the FOX News and right-wing radio people who do their best to whip up their listeners into a hate-filled frenzy anyway.
First, it would be great to see the MSM challenge McCain on this, which should be pretty much required by law given his credibility problems at this point, although I'm not holding my breath.
Second, the context here is that this problem clearly goes beyond what we would typically consider the "fringe" element. Recent polls have shown that upwards of 10% of the American public buys into this "Obama is a secret Muslim" crap. By extrapolation, one would expect that to be 20% to 25% of McCain supporters. This is the context in which we see the McCain/Palin crowds exploding with cheers and jeers at the mere mention of Barack HUSSEIN Obama, or when McCain asks "Who is the real Barack Obama?" It's not just the people shouting "kill him" or "terrorist". It's the overwhelming crowd response to these seemingly minor jabs, that gets me.
One would think that after 8 years of George W. Bush, you would have to be crazy to support John McCain for president. Seems to me, in light of the above, that this may quite literally be the case - a sizable proportion of McCain's support at this point is made up of the mentally ill, Andy Martin being the prototypical example, as well as crazy lady from last weekend:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/13/us/politics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XmerZEyHE
I don't expect the MSM to touch that with a 10-foot poll, but it is quite striking nonetheless, and it's hard not to be concerned about this regardless of whether McCain tones down his rhetoric and/or loses the election. Clearly, many of these people don't so much as support McCain as they do hate Obama. It all reminds me of that psychological freak Timothy McVeigh and The Turner Diaries.
http://www.cnn.com/US/9704/28/okc/
Obama showed with his usual alertness and sense of responsibility yesterday how to handle this type of situation. (Big difference - he and Biden haven't been stoking hate in their audiences). After his mention of McCain brought some boos from the crowd Obama simply turned them with a little pointed humor: he made a motion with his hands to damp it down and said 'We don't need that' and waited a few seconds for it to sink in. Then he added, 'We just need to vote'. Which brought a huge cheer. That is wit, maturity, judgement, and may I say, class.
Maybe the McCain campaign is planning to send a plant into an Obama rally to yell stuff like that about McCain and McCain thinks it already happened. Maybe the old dude got ahead of the game by a day or two here.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
and still he doesnt talk about how he would help the middle class, economy, you know important issues that people care about.
does a pig like slop
Hey, this guy sounds like secularhumanguy who used to post here. Is this your new handle?
diamondmc
The greedy rich capitalist bastards on Wall St have a done a tidy number in destroying Capitalism themselves, now it's Socialist type measures that have to come in and clean up the mess all over the world. The UK govt now owns 60% of the Bank of Scotland. Hey Anon, relax you are going to enjoy the Obama Presidency. No-one is going to boogeyman you, you might enjoy a change of lifestyle. We are having fun with your little repug ghost dance in here, btw.
Apologies for sending you Rupert, he's renounced his Australian citizenship and we don't want him back.
it's out of whack, so it makes no sense.
just when has anyone called McCain a terrorist? Any actual video tape like we have of Palin associating Obama with terrorists or actual approved campaign ads saying the same? Any ads that associate McCain with terrorists? Any audiotape of people saying that people should "kill" McCain as they have said about Obama?
It seems that McCain's claim is just that, a claim. Nothing backing it up and just a lame attempt at whining "but they do it too".
Geez John, do you think Fox News would have shown the video or picture evidence by now of someone calling you a terrorist at an Obama rally? It would be running on Fox 24/7. McCain is a liar.
Well, that's about what I thought. Most people i have met that drop the "socialism" card are really saying I won't vote for the black guy. Interesting, though, that "it's" first post accused Obama of being more white than black. So, which is it?
As to it's last post where it thought it would offend everyone. What's to be offended about? I laughed out loud. It was to be expected.
I honestly don't think he's capable of the truth.
Up til now he's done a fine job ignoring reality but I think grampa cranky mclame has finally lost his last marble and is now campaigning alone in fantasy land.
You'd think he'd learn to question the shit his idiot handlers tell him to say especially since he's got to turn around and correct himself or apologize pretty much every time he opens his mouth in public.
Sorry old man mclame but if you can't back it up there isn't a person over the age of 5 that's going to believe you. Your track record with the truth leaves us with plenty of reasons to be more than a little skeptical about the things you say.
*cough*liar*cough*
Wowza, lotsa troll-feeding going on here...
On a different note, I stole this from another blog comment somewhere (sorry, can't remember the source / poster):
Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?
…..think about it.
Would the country’s collective point of view be different? Could racism be the culprit?
Ponder the following:
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once and Obama was a divorcee?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while he was still married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five? (The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn’t read from a teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama’s family had made their money first bootlegging, then from beer distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
I did flag that racist rant by the troll.
diamondmc
We all knew he was to begin with, then proof arrived.
HiPOP
Hi ya! Hi ya! Hi ya, kid!
I'm just sitting here on this dreary Florida morning wondering why so much ugliness is showing up here at C&L this morning. Do the trolls see the writing on the wall and it's making them cranky? Or is it that McCain keeps stepping in stuff and stinking up his campaign?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
For us all to donate (and announce it to them) $5 dollars to Obama each time Trolls come in here.
Me too.
It's as if we're in a big room having a discussion. If someone like that showed up I do believe he/she would be asked to leave and never come back.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Sure maybe no candidate has any control over what their supporters say. BUT when a supporter says "kill him" and the candidate says "we want to turn THAT anger into action" that's an incitement for assasination of a political opponent and IS a VERY SERIOUS FELONY CRIME!!!
These two people should be disqualified for EVER holding public office in this country.
They're racist bovine.
Here's the Anchorage Daily News calling Palin a "LIAR" now that she's become an Alaskan embarrassment. Vindicated? Vindicated? Hardly and now americans are seeing her as one of the biggest liars to ever run for public office. She's become a disgrace.
http://www.adn.com/opinion/view/story/555236....
Palin shouldn't just be disqualified for inciting that the anger behind "kill him" be turned into an action. By American law she should be arrested and put in either a prison cell or a straight jacket in a mental hospital.
Nice try, Johnny! People ain't buyin' it!
Once again, McCain proves himself to be a pathological LIAR!
Where are the videos and recordings to prove it?
And what does that say about your campaign after y'all do so much vetting of the audience?
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This is not about a member of the audience; this speaks right to the heart and legality of what these two, Palin in particular, said from the stage to incite violent reactions in their audience.
Palin has become an embarrassing disgrace by her own words and actions to incite the worst aspect of a human being. She should have been cuffed on the spot.
Is it just me or does McCain's indignation remind you of someone else's? See below...
"Otter: Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.
[winks at Dean Wormer]
Otter: But you can't hold a whole fraternity responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole fraternity system? And if the whole fraternity system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, Greg - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America. Gentlemen!
[Leads the Deltas out of the hearing, all humming the Star-Spangled Banner]"
This reminds everyone of the Bush Administration - the invisible enemy to the McCain campaign. He's acting more like him every day. And Palin? She's showing us that she's Dick Cheney in a skirt and pumps. She's been indicted on abuse of power already - at least we had to wait to discover the sad truth about Bush and Cheney. These two have already both been admonished for "abusing power" and they're not even elected yet.
This handwriting is on the wall for everyone to see. People today are smarter and wiser, thanks to learning the lessons of the Bush administration.
The McCain/Rove bull$hit simply is no longer working; in fact, it's working in reverse.
I think it should be called the "Reverse Rove Syndrome".
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