Arthur Silber continues to write incredible stuff : "With regard to a few more minor points, I will note that John Podhoretz has revealed a degree of ugliness and hatred which is truly sickening to contemplate. There was this post (“If he’s going to go all camp on us, couldn’t the Sullied One have quoted Mae West or Joan Crawford or Bette Davis or something?”), and then this one. Podhoretz’s view of what is “clever” is as shallow and disgusting as is his complete inability to appreciate the gravity of the issues raised by the allegations of torture. And his treatment of Sullivan is utterly despicable, regardless of Sullivan’s own many sins." read on.