October 21, 2022

A baffled Stephanie Ruhle talked about the appeal of Marge Greene, and interviewed Mark McKinnon and David Plouffe about what that means for life after midterms.

"They love Marjorie Taylor Greene here," McKinnon said.

"Everybody you talk to, and the more contentious she is -- and one of the really interesting things we found is that when she got thrown off the committees. So people saw that as affirmation about why they like to. They want her to fight, they wanted to break stuff. They want to basically throw a big middle finger to Washington. That's exactly what they're doing."

"Fight for what?" Ruhle said. "You just said it. She doesn't have a single committee assignment. You see her on TV, all day, every day. I never talk about her on this show until now, because she absolutely no policy influence. So what is it that people are backing? She has nothing that improves their lives."

"That's about to change," McKinnon said.

"The party has moved to her now. As the party become more like Marjorie Taylor Greene and less like Kevin McCarthy. The point is the next congress is going to look like a lot like Marjorie Taylor Greene. And she's going to be ascendant, and she's gonna have a lot of power and influence. And she has a very clear legislative agenda."

She asked David Plouffe what this says about America.

"Well, Stephanie, that should greatly concern us. Because I don't think we are going to be out of the woods in terms of whether we're going to maintain our democracy," Plouffe said.

He said her support is growing.

"You can become a frequent contributor on Newsmax, Fox News, it's all promotion and performance right. Now, the more angry and right wing, you are the better you want to be. It is super scary. Because these are super scary times. I think that is where the power is at. I think, remarkably, she is now the main one for many of the Republican party."

"All right, David, we're keeping an eye on all these numbers all week. These early voting numbers in Georgia are really big. What does that tell you?" Ruhle asked.

"What you want to see in the early vote, not just as a Democrat, you want to see a lot of people that you weren't sure were gonna vote. Because if it's just people who were gonna vote on Election Day, but they vote early," Plouffe said.

"But you want to see first-time voters, younger voters, voters that don't have a lot of history voting in mid-term elections. So, it's the composition of early vote that matter.

"This is gonna be a very strong turnout election. So, of course, if both parties are bringing all their power to the polls, maybe neither party has a huge advantage in turnout. But if one party is able to get an advantage, that tends to make a big outside advantage in elections. There's clearly a lot more urgency on the left than we would've thought a few months ago."

He said Republicans are going to turn out. The question is whether the Democrats can motivate undependable voters.

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