The Deliberations Of The Decider
NY Times (reg. req'd) did an article on Libby's commutation and how hesitant Bush has historically been in granting clemency in trial verdicts. We know all this, so I'll spare you the whole article. But one little paragraph caught my attention:
In his memoir, Mr. Bush wrote about agonizing over the case of Karla Faye Tucker, who in 1998 became the first woman executed in Texas since the Civil War. Ms. Tucker, who was convicted in the ax murders of two people during a robbery in 1983, had become a born-again Christian while in prison, and her case drew support from across the political spectrum. Mr. Bush described feeling "like a huge piece of concrete was crushing me" as he waited with aides for Ms. Tucker's execution. It was, he said, "the longest 20 minutes of my tenure as governor."
Wow. Twenty. Whole. Minutes. Do you suppose that was before or after he did this?
Bush, who has enormously enriched himself and his family during his reign, is leaving politics, and could care less what happens to anyone else. That picture says it all.
Does he even know when he is saying something so insensitive it should make Cheney wince?
Smirking and making fun of the pleas of a woman who has already been put to death. no dignity there. is this really the asshole who represents us to the rest of the world. a loser from the beginning and a loser he remains. wake up america.
What, are we supposed to feel sorry for ax murderers?
The Putzident of the United States.
capnmike @ 4:
No but having compassion for everything living WOULD be nice
Cannot wait for the occupation of Comedian George Bush and dick tater ends. This type of comedy and entertainment is never a good thing.
I've always wondered if Karla Faye Tucker had found Islam or Buddhism if all those good Christians would have been defending her.
As Frank Rich put it so well today, George Bush is a coward. He really is.
This shallow, ignorant, possessed man disgraces everything he touches.
George W. Bush is not only a coward, but a pathological liar, a sociopath, a sadistic prick and a war criminal.
IMPEACH this major league asshole NOW !!!!!!
Karla Faye and stem cells weigh heavy on Bush's mind but aides say he pretty much goes about his buisness these days pretty calm after launching a sensless war that has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands and crippled countless more, crippled out military, alienated our alies, emboldened our ememies.
Go figure.
George Bush is a typical bully. Too afraid to go to funerals...that HE caused, can't stand in front of hostile crowds, can't answer questions..
but put him in front of a friendly audience...and he's Mr. ALL GO, BIG BALLS President.
What a putz.
The 20 minutes were tough? Strange, I saw him laughing and smirking during that time.
Bush is such a LIAR!!!!!
While it appears to me that claiming to be a born again Christian is always the last dodge of scoundrels, I have no faith that our legal system is so perfect as to be flawless enough to not risk putting innocent people to death. If O.J. could be found innocent, how many innocent people are found guilty? How is it that Conservatives who claim to distrust government have complete and undying faith in the legal system to get it right?
Good thing his Daddy sent him to prep school.
He'd have never held onto his own lunchmoney in a REAL school. He was the guy you beat up after school while his girl held your jacket.
Bush Commutation Flashback - Karla Faye Tucker:
When his allies on the religious right pressured him to spare murderess turned jailhouse born-again Christian Karla Faye Tucker, Governor Bush displayed his trademark resolve - and compassion. As Time recounted in 1999:
Tucker Carlson of Talk magazine described the smirk Bush wore as he mimicked convicted murderer turned Christian Karla Faye Tucker begging, "Please don't kill me," something she never actually did.
For the details, see:
"The Consistent Inconsistency of George W. Bush."
capnmike @ 4:
Let's start with how as a society we should deal with murders. Many say they should be put to death. Perhaps their most compelling argument is that if the murderer is dead he or she will not be able to kill again. Then there is the whole obsession in our country about punishment. But shouldn't the goal of any action we take be to prevent more murders? If so the death penalty is not working. This country executes more people than any other nation on the planet and yet has the highest murder rate. That alone might suggest it does not work. Then there is the other side of punishment. The side that hopes to redeem the criminal and make them a functioning member of society. So here is this woman who killed two people and was sent to jail to be executed. But she found religion. She decided what she did was wrong and sought to be a better person. Did this make a difference? Apparently not. She is dead. Society has one less person in it who want to be a good person and do the right thing. Nobody won anything. Even Bush was feeling a bit frazzled for (if he can be believed) twenty minutes.
One thing is certain if the Dems get back in in Nov 08 whoever is in the Oval Office is going to have a busy six months repealing every bullsh*t law Bush forced down everyones throat.
[Deleted. Thanks for playing-Sitemonitor]
Every life is precious, if I'm not mistaken.
Or something along those lines.
xoites defends Constitution @ 18:
We also have the 3rd largest population of any country on earth so it's no shock that we execute more than any other country since cops shoot alot more people in India and China than in America.
Hey site monitor, how about teaching flamebaiting Kirk a little lesson about what happens when a media outlet is privately owned? Given his ideological perspective, he can't claim to have been censored.
Kirk @ 20:
Then how do you explain the fact that bush DID stay the execution of Satanist?
[Quote edited-Sitmonitor]
A little bit of art I did in dedication to the Decider.
2008 can't come soon enough.
I bet they were a pretty short 20 minutes for KFT.
Kirk, it has nothing to do with liberalism. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, and possibly my only non-liberal position is my support of the death penalty. If I had been governor of TX, I wouldn't have commuted the woman's sentence; if my job was to review the cases before me and make decision of commutation and pardon based on the facts of the case, I would look at her guilt or innocence as decided by a jury, review the evidence, then either commute or allow the execution to proceed. That being said, I certainly wouldn't profess to be a Christian, then turn around and make light of a woman begging for her life. Bush is a sleazy piece of trash, not because he's a conservative, but because he's a monstrous, hypocritical sociopath.
The President is an amoral a-hole.
He has no frame of reference to talk about these issues. He's just repeating the lines he was told.
Screw him. I hope they outsource the maintenance on Air Force One. Then he can live like the rest of us.
George can't think of anything for more than 20 minutes.
He has the attention span of an 11 year old.
Kirk @ 20:
One Born again Christian who gives the go ahead to kill another Born Again Christian.
Does God just sort em out from there?
Not to beat a dead horse here, but Jesus did say:
Matthew 5:17-20:
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:17-20;&version=31;
Matthew 5:38
"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205:38-38;&version=31;
So, the only valid criticism of then Governor Bush is that he did not personally hack that woman up with an ax. Am I wrong here? I mean is the world completely insane?
Well obviously, becoming a Born Again Christian didn't help Karla much.
Let's face it, we live in a disposable society. Human life and suffering, pfft, who cares? Kirk is a perfect example of an uncaring populace. Remember the movie Monster? A society is judged on how it treats its weakest members.
BrucknerBoy @ 27:
So, do you support putting possibly innocent people to death? Are you sure the legal system is perfect enough not to get it wrong? If you support the death penalty, you are basically saying that it is OK for the government to execute innocent people. It's inevitable.
Kirk @ 20:
This from a guy who states on his blog that Dumbya commuting Libby's sentence "proves that he is innocent." ;-)
So to free of sin of killing Bush has to be Born Again what every 30 seconds for the rest of his existence in this lifetime?
Anyone good at math?
L.A. Confidential @ 37:
So to BE free of sin of killing Bush has to be Born Again what every 30 seconds for the rest of his existence in this lifetime?
Sorry for the grammar.
Bush has never believed in god.
What a silly concept.
Kirk @ 36:
Facts? What Facts?
Kirk @ 36:
Do it on your own site. You have no rights here. C&L is privately owned and operated.
BrucknerBoy @ 27:
So, do you support putting possibly innocent people to death? Are you sure the legal system is perfect enough not to get it wrong? If you support the death penalty, you are basically saying that it is OK for the government to execute innocent people. It's inevitable.
xoites defends Constitution @ 2:
Pffft! The only time 'Little' Dick Cheney winces is when someone starts sharpening a wooden table leg.
Snowball, wasn't it Illinois with a republican governor that put a hold on the death penalty after it was found that 8 out of the the 11 people on death row were found to be innocent after mandatory DNA testing was instituted? 8 out of 11! Fuuuuuuuuuck. Not exactly the odds you'd want in Vegas.
capnmike @ 4:
The point for me is that I would like my governor, elected official or my bloody president to act like an adult.
Yes Strawberry, I believe you are correct.
Carakav @ 25:
Dubya will still be president until 2009 unless his self destruction ends with his resignation, then to where 2008 is a year of promise and not another "1968" upon us.
L.A. Confidential @ 41:
Uh, the Bible...
capnmike @ 4:
Nope, not even those who do it using the people's troops, to fight illegal, mismanaged wars and occupations born of lies, deception, and greed.
BTW, Are we going to review mandatory sentencing guidelines for all non-violent offenders? I suppose the prison-industrial complex can't withstand that... but its long overdue.
Just think of the cases where there is no DNA evidence. Those people just got lucky and missed being murdered by the state for no reason by a hair's breath. No amount of appeals would have saved them without the DNA proving their innocence.
Snowball, I only favor the death penalty in extreme cases. If someone is truly proved guilty beyond a doubt, DNA evidence, witnesses, video evidence, etc., only then should the death penalty even be considered. There should also be some sort of independent oversight that can sift through the evidence separately from the court system and make recommendations based on its findings.
I think that the death penalty is used far too often in this country, and it pains me to see conservatives using it as a political tool. It should only be applied in extreme situations.
If there's ANYONE left with an IQ greater than their shoe size who actually believes that this waste of DNA actually cares about anything other than money....that's really sad.
Kirk @ 20:
Hey, Kirk, Buddy,
You got it WRONG. (Typical for a conservative non-thinker.)
This time the Liberals take a PRO-LIFE stance. The reason that's hard for you to admit is that neither the president, nor conservative non-thinkers really know what the hell PRO-LIFE means.
You use the phrase all the time, but continue to execute people in jails, torture people in off-shore prison camps, MURDER innocent women and children and fathers and neighbors in Iraq, FORCE our own soldiers into death traps without providing the obvious necessary protective armor. Then, to add salt to the wound, you TERMINATE perfectly good STEM CELLS every day by the thousands by throwing them in the trash rather than utalizing their biological material for research which will eventually cure deseases and save the already valuable lives of people we love and cherish.
Your attempt at irony is really a sad window on the sadistic and SICK politics that come from the pure hypocrisy of your pro-life political positioning. Yer whole deal makes me sick to my stomach.
... and if you're NOT a non-thinking hate-spewing "compassionate conservative," well, then, sorry for the rebuke... but yer comment smells like one and looks like one... so i'm takin' a shot.
Sociopaths like George of the Bungle don't care about anything except their self interest. And if Tucker had converted to anything except fundamental Christianity this whole issue would have been irrelevant to him. Instead of feeling minutes of "remorse" he would have felt satisfied.
The root of capital punishment is revenge, not justice. I find it difficult to imagine how this aligns with the true spirit of Christianity or any religion, although there are many who offer corrupted versions to suit their subjective intrepretation.
Kirk @ 48:
The Bible as fact....
So [sighing and rubbing palms hard into eyes] how is, say, a person of another faith supposed to see your point when all you are going to do is quote The Bible as "fact"? Seriously, man.
No one saying that we have to feel sorry for ax murderes. You are missing the Point and the point is that Bush is once again lying about it.
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BrucknerBoy
Sorry, you're hypothesizing an infallible system. No such animal is possible and it will never exist. That's a scientific fact.
Snowball, correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there are some southern states that refuse to pay for DNA detesting in capital crimes cases saying that it's up to the defendant to pay for it. Colour me silly but...you'd think as a God fearing repug, born again blah, blah, blah, you'd do EVERYTHING in your power to make sure you don't off an innocent person.
detesting? sorry...Bush on the brain...that should read testing.
Strawberry, it would appear that they are more interested in holding someone, anyone accountable whether or not they are really guilty. It's the same logic, or lack thereof, that they used to rationalize attacking Iraq for 9/11.
Bush's number is 6-6-6
Again, what facts?
kft ax murdered two people and admitted at trial that she had thrills from it that bordered on orgasms. dead is good for her, and bush's reactions are irrelevant. the scooter thing is a different story and far worse.
Strawberry @ 58:
I get the feeling that like this used to burn witches, often folk they knew perfectly well were not witches, but it served a selfish purpose to eliminate them; goodness only knows what. Reasoning with them or pointing out their hypocrisies (sp?) is pointless.
Our smirking boy-child-in-chief once again shows his true colors.
I've read about his mocking and mimicking during her execution, truly a man we want running a country. Truly, someone we can all look up to.
in case anyone forgot;
Mr. bush wrote about agonizing over the case of Karla Faye Tucker,
WATTA CROCK OF SHIT
In discussing the case with reporter Tucker Carlson for Talk magazine, Bush mimics the late Karla Faye begging for mercy: "'Please,' Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, 'don't kill me.'"
Kirk @ 48:
Just have to save this for posterity! :D
The most embarrasing President in our Nation's history will in time become the most embarrasing EX-President in our Nation's history.
The only thing we can hope for is that he becomes a recluse and goes dumb( as in not talking) or is exiled to the jungles of South America to live with Howler Monkeys.
In a way, Kirk is correct, the Bible is a fact. It does in fact exist. As to whether or not what is contained within it is factual is another matter.
Everyone looks down at Shit unless it's coming at ya . . .
Kirk @ 48:
Which One?
It did not matter what ideology Karla Faye Tucker had converted to. The fact was she expressed remorse, she provided evidence of this in the good deeds that she did while in prison, and would have spent the remainder of her life in prison helping others. Mr. Bush's complete lack of empathy was expressed to the entire country and we as a nation could not see that. Now thousands and thousands are dead in a war based on obvious mendacity, and as a country we are now are left outraged and aghast at the actions of this man? The writing was always on the wall.
"Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord, I will repay---do not become overcome by evil but overcome evil with good."
Romans 12:19-21 (excerpt)
I'll be glad to let God be the ultimate arbiter on capital punishment, humans do a very bad job of it.
Radically Moderate @ 68:
Talk about getting lost in a crowd! Hooboy!
:lol:
6th Extinction @ 72:
Ohhh, I'd say many, many, many of us saw it. Indeed.
It's apparent that bush lacks both a brain and a heart. I wish for him all the pain in his life that he has caused others - he deserves nothing less. The man is both a buffoon and a murderer.
In case you have not figured it out:
There is the inside track that you will never ever hear and "for public consumption" the twain will never match.
69:69:21 When in doubt whip it out
69:72:12 he who sins grins
The book of fellatio in the new testicle (excerpt)
Strawberry @ 59:
What brain?
6th Extinction @ 72:
I've given my reason for opposing the death penalty above. It is a logical position, not one based on morality or any such sentimentalism. Unfortunately, we could never know if KFT was really remorseful or not. That would require mind reading. I always get kind of bugged when people argue against the death penalty using such specious reasoning when logic is enough.
Having said that, Bush has clearly demonstrated that he is as callous a murderer as KFT was when she committed her crime.
I hope you're insulting Bush, ron, because I don't think you really want to get into it with me.
bmw 528 @ 73:
Hear hear.
As for Dubya, he will have to answer to his God. From my understanding, it doesn't sound like mine.
Strawberry @ 81:
From what I've read from Ron, I'm pretty sure that was aimed at Bush, not you.
Snowball @ 23:
Sorry for the delayed response, but some stupid kids tipped over one of our cows. Idiots. It was a milk cow. You don't tip over milk cows. It took awhile to calm her down.
Anyway, I don't understand your whole premise and I think it's off topic to boot.
Cool, Snowball.
Strawberry @ 33:
But, I do care. Didn't you read the passages? I don't think it's fair to say someone doesn't care just because they have a different perspective from you.
Bonkers @ 55:
Well, Christians, Jews and Muslims agree that the Bible is fact. Seems like that covers a lot of people.
How many pictures are there of the puffy-cheeked chimp? I think this is the 3rd or 4th on I've seen on this site alone.
Gempei, I don't think I want to meet Dubya's god either---the god of hubris and deceit.
Damn little bastards just stole a goat! What the Hell?! I swear I'd call the sheriff out if I didn't have that still out back. Now I gotta let lose some Christian fury, so I have to go.
I guess Jesus only forgives you if you're rich and white.
Let's not forget that while Bush was Governor of Texas, he also was responsible for executing the mentally retarded, too.
Strawberry @ 81:
Of course I meant it for Bush. I would never insult you strawberry.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Kirk @ 87:
Believing in it does not make it fact. Show me some proof.
Ex-Canuck @ 76:
My sentiments exactly EX-Canuck!!!!!
I want to see him and Cheney being tarred and feathered and marched of to the Hague.
Waterboarding those two sounds good to me! LOL
"I'm gonna hold my breath until you tell me I'm a good president..."
On February 3, 1998, Karla Faye Tucker was executed by lethal injection and pronounced dead at 6:45 p.m. Her last words were:
"Yes sir, I would like to say to all of you – the Thornton family and Jerry Dean’s family that I am so sorry. I hope God will give you peace with this. Baby, I love you. Ron, give Peggy a hug for me. Everybody has been so good to me. I love all of you very much. I am going to be face to face with Jesus now. Warden Baggett, thank all of you so much. You have been so good to me. I love all of you very much. I will see you all when you get there. I will wait for you."
I wonder what Scooter said and will say when he is subpoenaed again.
Let Libby go free, but jail an old lady for not watering her lawn in a drought...
http://www.rawstory.com/showarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbc.co.uk%...
no longer a proud american @ 3:
And yet we knew about this in plenty of time to decide whether to elect him President. Twice. And nearly half the people who voted did exactly that. What does that say about America?
Uh, Karla Faye was a lowlife, skeevy ax murderer who conveniently found Jesus. George W.Bush is a lowlife, skeevy mass murderer who speaks to Jesus. It's time to stop worrying about the various different forms of Texas filth and take this country back from them.
Quote of the Day:
Late afternoon, February 3, 1998, Governor George W. Bush closed the door on the last breath of hope for Karla Faye. He denied a 30-day delay to the execution set for later that evening. A press release issued from the Governor's Mansion stated, "Many people have contacted my office about this execution. I respect (their) strong convictions (but) Karla Faye Tucker has acknowledged she is guilty of a horrible crime. She was convicted and sentenced by a jury of her peers. The role of the state is to enforce our laws...The courts, including the United States Supreme Court, have reviewed the legal issues in this case, and therefore I will not grant a 30-day stay. May God bless Karla Faye Tucker and may God bless her victims and their families."
First, let's not use the term "ax murderer" as it has a different connotation than a pickaxe, which is what Tucker used to kill her ex-boyfriend and his girlfriend. I was living in Houston at the time the murder was committed and remember it well for its shocking aspect that Tucker boasted about having an orgasm while stabbing her boyfriend. It was this revelation that probably caused the jury to show no mercy, such as considering her rehabilitative, and thus they sentenced her to death. (She was high as a kite on drugs at the time of the murders, but that's no excuse, although it was a contributing factor.)
Now, as far as bush is concerned, I happened to live in Fort Worth at the time the issue of to execute or not execute Tucker was played out in the media. His photo happened to be on the front page of the Star-Telegram (the Startle-Gram as some like to call it), and it was the first time I'd ever seen his photo. I looked at his eyes and thought to myself, That is a cold man.
I swear those were my exact words.
Yet bush had the audacity to commute the sentence of Henry Lee Lucas, infamous serial killer, the only person spared execution during bush's tenure as governor of Texas. If you research all the other executions (such as the defendant whose attorney fell asleep at trial), you'll realize how horrid a person that bush truly is. What was the commutation for Lucas, quid-pro-quo? We'll never know, because Lucas died in prison and never said a word about any connection to the bush network.
Dave from the Lake Effect Zone @ 99:
The facts have been established that Gore had the votes in Florida and the U.S. Supreme court selected the president. In Ohio it has been established that the recount was rigged. Our boy has never won an election for the president of the U.S.
Ron @ 103:
Funny stuff. All of the Florida recounts had Bush winning. I don't remember a recount in the 2004 election, but I'm sure all of this happened in your own personal utopia.
Ryan @ 104:
Ryan, why don't you do a little research. If you had an argument, you blew it by your comments.
Ron @ 105:
Here I'll even help you out.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121604Z.shtml
i think the final totals in florida showed that if all of the counties in fla were recounted, than Gore won.
However, the results showed that if the recount was limited to certain counties, as the Democrats wanted it to be, Bush would have won.
So the headlines when the recount numbers came out said that Bush won! (because he would have won if the Democrats had gotten the limited recount that they wanted.)
Kirk @ 87:
Yeah, well, Kirk, I am none of the above. And I am not telling you my religion because it is immaterial. But I am sure glad that we got it straightened out that you willingly exclude a great deal of the population from any conversation you want to have, including me.
And like another poster said:
believing something does not make it fact.
Who is he kidding. He laughed himself sick through the entire execution.
The one guy he did pardon was a necrophiliac. Why? Because doing it to a corpse excited the twisted little freak.
I don't think we can mention enough times-and I think it's not being mentioned enough-that out of the 150 something executions in texas while he was governor he pardoned none EXCEPT Henry LEE Lucas an admitted satanist. But wait it gets better.
He had a serial killer murderer/partner named Otis Toole who was on death row in florida whose sentence was also commuted to life. By the way, this sick fuck ate people, yes cannibal.
Turns out that Lucas was trained at a paramilitary camp in the everglades and was trained to be a political assassin. go read about all of this yourselves:
http://www.whale.to/b/henry.html
Kirk @ 31:
The bible is a book of myths.
L.A. Confidential @ 30:
kirk cast your bread upon the waters and all you get is soggy bread!
By some of the comments here I think I'm going to have to connect the dots, especially Kirk. Bush the bush family are satanists. This is why he commuted the one death row inmate even though he admitted to hundreds of murders.
Hey, let's not limit it to the bushes, the clintons are into the same devil worshipping bullshit. literally.
Now, I'm not christian by any means. And I don't believe in the devil. The problem is that you have these super powerful people who do and who not only worship, I mean literally worship the fucking devil, =( Sorry to ruin the love affair with killary klinton.
moktar @ 110:
moktar @ 110:
I'm only a few paragraphs into this and I am totally boggled. What the hell was George playing at here?
By the way, is this the same Henry as the movie Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer?
[brrrr]
http://www.crimemagazine.com/lucas.htm
this man did not deserve a commuted sentence.
capnmike @ 4:
I don't feel sorry for Bush.
6th Extinction @ 72:
My thoughts exactly!!!
I do remember this.
I'm not against the death penalty, but the disrespect and disregard Bush consistently displays to fellow humans is chilling.
He still hasn't gone to one funeral of a young solder who was sent to his/her death, as a symbolic gesture for all who have perished. This is not presidential material; he's too vile to hold any office.
The decider, the commander guy, and above all else, the failure.
BrucknerBoy @ 27:
Let us NOT forget that Gonzo was the person advising the shrub on the death penalty cases.
The Secret Service won't let him go. He gets too excited around corpses. Why do you think he was such a fan of Lee? Simple. He was a necrophiliac like Bush.
Scarecrow @ 118:
The only way that Bush and Cheney will be brought to justice is a good, old style lynching. But they'll both get a pardon, won't they?
yes, bonkers, Henry: portrait of a serial killer is none other than Lucas.
POLITICS
1 a : the art or science of government b : the art or science concerned with guiding or influencing governmental policy c : the art or science concerned with winning and holding control over a government
So we end up with a bullshit artist who is against science!
Go figure! ;)
It takes a murderer to know one.
re: Kirk's posts:
I don't know if any of you who have responded to Kirk have taken the time to look at his website, Please do and tell me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that he's trying to pull a 'Jon Swift'. While it 'kind of' works there, it doesn't work here in the comments. It seems he's done a fair job of 'gettin' people all riled up'. Kirk, the 'swiftian' humor doesn't work here, not because people don't have a sense of humor or irony, but because there's no context to it like there is on your web site.
Ah come on. Come on a little more. You can do it.
Dam i thought he was going to blow up for a second. Oh well I will keep hoping.
Neocons are all imbecilic, aging, wheezing syphilitic pathological creeps, dirty old men that smoke Cuban cigars and go on child sex slave vacations in third world nations while on oxycontin between snorting viagra and having secret affairs with gay hookers when they're not spouting homophobic bullshit or writing breathlessly idiotic, fact free columns in major newspapers or clinking crystal tumblers swollen with $38,000 a bottle bourbon with the Skull and Bones classmates at grand socials, getting drunk and shooting people in the face, brazenly granting trillion dollar contracts to their former companies, raping teenaged boys in Texas Prisons when they're not chronically sexually harrassing their female employees or ravaging the ife savings of thousands of people. All this while being ardently fawned over by the liberal media. These revolting sub-human colostomatic shitbags of filth and perversion should all be in GITMO right now receiving sex changes from Cuban doctors. Fuck impeachment, I want imprisonment.
I hope he holds that look for the day he walks his ass out of the white house for the last time, woundering what we have waiting for his ass.
2x @ 125:
Haw! Good on ya, 2X. Thanks for the tip.
Kirk: you had me going. Very good!
I am just glad that I didn't blow my stack or anything. I really wanted to hear a rational opinion without the religious overtones and was willing to engage the pious person. Ahhh, humor.
I live in Texas but I never voted for George W. Bush either for governor or president but in all fairness govenors in Texas have no final say in who gets clemency in a death sentence because of the law.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/execution/readings/texas.html
Texas gives the bulk of clemency power to its Board of Pardons and Paroles and not to the governor. Indeed, the Board must vote to recommend commutation in order for the governor to grant clemency. Stephen E. Silverman examined the impact of this procedure on the frequency of executions. In a law review note, entitled "There is Nothing Certain Like Death in Texas: State Executive Clemency Boards Turn a Deaf Ear to Death Inmates' Last Appeals,"
Lynching for Bush & Cheney? No, that only works on creatures that need oxygen and nerve transmissions to and from the brain.
There used to be remedies for witches and Satan worshipers that could be tried. I'm sure these will still work.
It is obvious that Libby blackmailed Cheney before the trial, demanding his price of no prison time. What I don't know, is whether or not he also blackmailed Bush, or if the Resident was just following orders?
You may call me a pollyanna, but I was shocked to read that Bush said that. In fact, if the source were not a conservative like Tucker Carlson, I might doubt the account's veracity.
Bush's penchant for cruelty has never been well-hidden, but as bmw 528 @ #54 says, there is only word for this behavior: sociopathology.
ITMFA
Well, we knew that the memoirs of a sociopathic borderline psychopath would also be dihonest - the man is a pathological liar. It is amazing that he would try and portray himself as having shown even the slightest demonstration of basic humanity, when he knows that the story of his gleeful ridicule of his victim has been broadly distributed.
The man is evil.
miss_kitty @ 6:
probably and ax murderer deserves to die, and an Libby deserves the time he got. Its about treating everyone the same!
George Bush... an anti public American Embarassment! When he got elected it shows just how powerfull were the misleaders who fooled the public and how capable of being duped the people were. How could anyone but a dyed in the wool exploiter of the populance be in favor of this Facist Criminal!
first off lets stop with the when he got elected, it never happened, the first time the corporations stoled the election for bush it was obvious that florida had been a staged farce, you never had a chance , and the repigs who own the supreme court sold america out, so the supreme court is worthless as a giver of justice! the second time the corporations offered you an honest election they did so with rigged voteing machines that for the most part still wait to steal the 08 election ,that is if they dont allready have martial law and cancellations planned , in any event you can tout this candidate or that candidate in 08 but the democratic candidate wether its clinton or obama has been bought out , certainly the repig candidates are all scum so we dont have much choice, its going to be hillery or obama , so its not a pretty picture , and the future of america will not be very bright untill the corporations are defeated and held in check, viva the revolution
uh, Kirk-
You have heard that it was said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth". But I say to you, do not resist an evildoer. If anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:38–39, NRSV)
Is what Christ actually SAID.Notice the subtle difference in the level of compassion. But I'm sure he's totally fine with you misleading people in his name. Some of us here actually aspire to real Christianity, ya know, the kind that helps the poor and downtrodden rather than just bashing gays and fleecing ignorant people of their money. Putz.
Eventhough I see the hypocrisy in bush's policy, thoughts, existence...
I think he meant it took 20 minutes to execute her, rather than it took 20 minutes to delibrate on whether or not to execute her.
feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
He looks like he's about to blow chunks.
If boosh was caught sledge-hammering puppies to death, would we only hears news about Paris Hilton?
Why do pathological liars and egomaniacs always seem to go into politics? Are most first-time politicians good to begin with, but corrupted after their first sip of real power? Maybe we need to rethink our whole political system, update it for the modern times. Hell, if we could end up making something REALLY good come of this whole Bush fiasco, I'd be pretty happy with that... NO MORE LAWYERS ELECTED INTO OFFICE, EVER!!!! :-p
i wonder how excited he will be about execution when some of his administration, as promised by him will be punished to the "full extent" of the law for treason in a time of war....if i'm not mistaken that full extent is death....hhhmmmm
Contrary to all the naysaying in these comments, that photo demonstrates that Dubya has one redeeming quality. He can do a passable Pat Robertson impression. Once he's been impeached, I propose that he begin a career in standup.
The squishy tomatoes and rotten eggs are on me.
How is this for a retirement epiphany?
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070608/news_lz1e8boston.html
Time for the truth about the Liberty
By Ward Boston Jr.
June 8, 2007
Forty years ago this week, I was asked to investigate the heaviest attack on an American ship since World War II. As senior legal counsel to the Navy Court of Inquiry, it was my job to help uncover the truth regarding Israel’s June 8, 1967, bombing of the Navy intelligence ship Liberty.
On that sunny, clear day 40 years ago, Israel’s combined air and naval forces attacked the Liberty for two hours, inflicting 70 percent casualties. Thirty-four American sailors died, and 172 were injured. The Liberty remained afloat only by the crew’s heroic efforts.
Israel claimed it was an accident. Yet I know from personal conversations with the late Adm. Isaac C. Kidd – president of the Court of Inquiry – that President Lyndon Johnson and Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara ordered him to conclude that the attack was a case of “mistaken identity.”
The ensuing cover-up has haunted us for 40 years. What does it imply for our national security, not to mention our ability to honestly broker peace in the Middle East, when we cannot question Israel’s actions – even when they kill Americans?
Today, survivors of Israel’s cruel attack will gather in Washington, D.C., to honor their dead shipmates as well as the mothers, sisters, widows and children they left behind. They will continue to ask for a fair and impartial congressional inquiry that, for the first time, would allow the survivors themselves to testify publicly.
For decades, I have remained silent. I am a military man, and when orders come in from the secretary of defense and president of the United States, I follow them. However, attempts to rewrite history and concern for my country compel me to share the truth.
Adm. Kidd and I were given only one week to gather evidence for the Navy’s official investigation, though we both estimated that a proper Court of Inquiry would take at least six months.
We boarded the crippled ship at sea and interviewed survivors. The evidence was clear. We both believed with certainty that this attack was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew.
I am certain the Israeli pilots and commanders who had ordered the attack knew the ship was American. I saw the bullet-riddled American flag that had been raised by the crew after their first flag had been shot down completely. I heard testimony that made it clear the Israelis intended there be no survivors. Not only did they attack with napalm, gunfire and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned at close range three life rafts that had been launched in an attempt to save the most seriously wounded.
I am outraged at the efforts of Israel’s apologists to claim this attack was a case of “mistaken identity.”
Adm. Kidd told me that after receiving the president’s cover-up orders, he was instructed to sit down with two civilians from either the White House or the Department of Defense and rewrite portions of the court’s findings. He said, “Ward, they’re not interested in the facts. It’s a political matter, and we cannot talk about it.” We were to “put a lid on it” and caution everyone involved never to speak of it again.
I know that the Court of Inquiry transcript that has been released to the public is not the same one that I certified and sent to Washington. I know this because it was necessary, due to the exigencies of time, to hand-correct and initial a substantial number of pages. I have examined the released version of the transcript and did not see any pages that bore my hand corrections and initials. Also, the original did not have any deliberately blank pages, as the released version does. In addition, the testimony of Lt. Lloyd Painter concerning the deliberate machine-gunning of the life rafts by the Israeli torpedo boat crews, which I distinctly recall being given at the Court of Inquiry and including in the original transcript, is now missing.
I join the survivors in their call for an honest inquiry. Why is there no room to question Israel – even when it kills Americans – in the halls of Congress?
Let the survivors testify. Let me testify. Let former intelligence officers testify that they received real-time Hebrew translations of Israeli commanders instructing their pilots to sink “the American ship.”
Surely uncovering the truth about what happened to American servicemen in a bloody attack is more important than protecting Israel. And surely 40 years is long enough to wait.
Boston served as chief counsel to the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the attack on the U.S. Navy intelligence ship Liberty. He also served as a naval aviator in World War II on the carrier Yorktown and as an FBI agent prior to his assignment to the Navy’s Judge Advocates General Corps. He is a graduate of the the College of William and Mary School of Law and a resident of Coronado.
20 minutes. That's fucking hilarious.
And I bet 19 of those minutes consisted of the Decidificationalizer agonizing over where to go for lunch.
Great Photo of the 'W'! Is he holding his breath 'til Conyers and Leahy go away?
Dumbya is certainly proven to be an uncaring asshole.
Everyone should read the late James Hatfield's 'Fortunate Son', the fine biography of George W. Hatfield may be dead, but all the stories in the book have turned out to be true.
Like this one.
Bush is the most pathetic human being on the planet.
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