NYC to investigate Giuliani, faulty 9/11 radios
By Steve Benen Wednesday Oct 31, 2007 7:02pm
A couple of weeks ago, Brave New Films released this devastating six-minute clip above about a Rudy Giuliani’s Achilles heel: his decision to ignore (and lie about) concerns over the FDNY’s radio equipment, which ultimately cost so many lives on 9/11.
Thanks to the film and 20,000 petition signatures collected in response, the city is going to launch an investigation.
In the midst of his presidential candidacy, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani now faces a looming government investigation into his handling of the radios used by firefighters on 9/11.
The investigation, which will examine how the FDNY ended up using faulty equipment during the terrorist attacks and why Giuliani gave a no-bid contract to Motorola for that equipment, has been endorsed by New York City Councilman Eric Gioia, chair of the city’s oversight and investigations committee. […]
Gioia said, “These families deserve answers and really the entire city and our country deserve answers.... To watch this documentary and see the important questions that were asked and seemingly unanswered and ignored for so many years, it’s disturbing.”
This probably isn’t what the Giuliani campaign was hoping for. As Greg Sargent put it, “At the very least, such a probe could reveal more unflattering facts about his allegedly heroic 9/11 performance.”
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First!
Is there a good reason no one investigated this issue, say, FIVE YEARS AGO?
911 verb noun 911 ...
Oh, Trudy Juliannie needs to give it up. She will NEVER win the Presidency.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8
Good news!
RUDY: THE TRUE ‘BORN-AGAIN’ CANDIDATE, AFTER 9/11 THAT IS
That's not the only thing Giuliani needs to be investigated for. He also covered up for child abusers to protect the military from embarrassment:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/1/144455/938
A rosary was said. No response yet from high above. Me thinks you are doomed and cursed. And the great bearded wanderer....no, wait, that's too ethnic. So far no Cecil B. DeMile parting of waves or clouds. Okay good Catholic metaphors, but Rudy, yer doomed, jerk-off.
He walks out into the rain. The same person, but feeling like he's had a gentle swipe of a machete whack through his innards. Yes, he knows there are starving children in China. There are disappointed pedophiles in Pokipssee. But it don't mean shit to him.
Recent findings suggest that an overly intense mental strain and the consumption of three-olive martinis in the proximity of a Bic lighter, may lead to TBI or Total Body Immolation. I think that the only solution to the "Rudy" problem is to encourage him to drink heavily. Remember, the only sin committed by the protagonist in Camus' "The Stranger," was indifference. He also said, "...You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life."
His Mama said he never raised such a stink. The answer must be to mainline Imitrex straight into your skull.
quick call the Haitian :)
Great post, thanks.
"This probably isn’t what the Giuliani campaign was hoping for. As Greg Sargent put it, “At the very least, such a probe could reveal more unflattering facts about his allegedly heroic 9/11 performance.”
I'm all for this investigation. Just don't let Rudy respond on television please. I mean, it will just give him another opportunity to say "9/11". Rudy is so bad now that even a simple question like "Rudy, what did you have for dinner tonight?" Will be responded with "9/11".
Watch him, he'll try to shift the blame to someone else. Just like all Repubs do.
I hope they nail this bastard to the wall for what he did to the firefighters.
I found a noose hanging in my bathroom.......should I be worried?
Rudy has decided, based on advice from his prime campaign consultants, Gingrich and Bush, to follow a straightforward, traditional republican approach to the 9/11 faulty, non-compatible radio debacle:
Deny and Lie, Lie and Deny.
Crime fighter Rudy? The guy who promised results in the war on crime in Mexico City within 4 years (the promise was made in 2003). How'd that turn out Rudy?
Preacher Boob @ 14:
And don't forget the all time favorite: "I don't recall that." Whenever Republicans are on the hot seat their memories go bye bye.
why do I get the feeling nothing will come of this?
Carl Gordon @ 8:
Man! What the hell you on? And may I have some, please?
The gop are having a really bad day.
Geez.
republican companies always seem to get the no-bid contracts.
JerryO @ 13:
What, you worry? Think about Rudy, the jews in NYC are starting to hang nooses on his campaign offices, based on the ongoing revelations of the malfeasance in his true 9/11 incompetence, both before and after the catastrophe, despite his mendacious, theatrical street-performance of faked competence.
If AIPAC withdraws their support of his campaign, he'll be reduced to making a living stripping in transvestite bars and clubs.
THAT'S to worry.
this could backfire on dems.... the framing of Rudy as the 9/11 Messiah is pretty strong. right-wingers feel he is unassailable on it. i really, really hope this puts a dent in it, but it could also reinforce the RG-911 association he has worked so hard to build.
let's nail him, but perhaps after his name is on the ballot for election 2008, the evangelicals will actually show up to vote for Romney!
Carl Gordon @ 8:
whoa....that's some heavy shit man...
Criminal Negligence! Malfeasance! Willful Endangerment! Negligent Homicide, and how many more CRIMES should this liar be charged with?
Some educated legal person out there in the BIG APPLE outta be dragging "Drag Queen Rudy" before the bar of justice and do so before he does more of this kind of thing ON A NATIONAL SCALE....One BUSITE per 1,000 years is MORE THAN ENOUGH, and we have already had TWO!
Our next leader? Holy fuckin' moly. I keep sayin' he's worse than BUSH!
I have yet to hear anyone give a cogent and convincing argument as to what was so "heroic" about Rudy on 9/11. All the video I've seen shows him walking around pointing his finger in the air. Perhaps people think of him as a hero because they wanted to believe someone was in charge, and Shrub sure didn't fill the bill. If that comparison is the reason Rudy has a constituency, I would suggest people draft a cucumber to run for President. After all, they're cool and inoffensive and could probably show Judy a really good time.
hey. I did my first blog post @ my new blog, Standing Before The Fire on Rudy, his radios, and the response center.
http://standingbeforethefire.com/?p=18
Please check it out if you have the time.
9/11.
Bush was AWOL. Typical.
Rudy waited till the firefighters were dead to pop up.
Real heroes.
They both used that day to suggest they are saviors.
Sick.
more disgrace and maybe even a perp walk. oh well, on the bright side, he will be able to see if that new yellow evening gown attracts any prison patrons, well, they're not all that particular as long as the right equipment is there.
Yam @ 22:
God, I hope he gets the nomination. Pissing off the Christian fundies ... and putting his shitty record under the 24/7 microscope only the general election can provide. Please, please, please.
Anyone who believes he is some kind of 9/11 Messiah, and still thinks so after the general election pounds his ass on it everday, wouldn't vote for a democrat under any circumstances.
PurplePatriot @ 31:
Yes,but if by some demonic fluke he wins,we're all in BIGGGGG Trouble.
I mean: BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Trouble....*hmm that doesn't look right either*
BBBBBBBBBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGG? *nah*
Okay: BIG TROUBLE.PERIOD.
I'm so sick of people like Chris Matthews and Chuck Todd spreading Pravdaness about Rudy. Kudos to Brave New Films
This is good.
Why are all you people so down on Rudy? I mean, isn't the press SUPPOSED to choose the nominees?
Why can't you all just accept that they have already chosen Rudy and Hillary, I wonder. If it is good enough for the press, because it helps them sell more advertisements, it is good enough for all of America for the next 8 years, right?
You make it sound like you think the voters should have actual CHOICE... geez, you should know how dangerous that is! You might accidentally change the direction of the country.
Viva El Duce, Benito Giuliani
Good! Somebody has to take a sledgehammer to Rudy's self created "America's Mayor" persona. Rudy did nothing but mug for the cameras on 9/11. Up to that point, he was fucking useless. He wants to own 9/11 - fine! Let everyone get a good look at what he was really doing from the first World Trade center attacks in '92 right up until 09/11/2001.
Radios huh. This does not even begin to scratch the surface...now back to our regularly scheduled program. Poor you.
great!
now get
it into the MSM
heh...
What Giuliani did is bad enough.
But what about Motorola?
Anybody suing Motorola yet? Any punishment at all for selling a city garbage instead of life-saving equipment?
I think the corporation is the bigger, badder issue here.
I hope they investigate a few other things about 9/11 and Rudy while they are at it.
Is this the best they have? No wonder the defense industry is sending gobs of cash to Hillary.
Who told Motorola they could get away with it?
This stuff all starts with the check.
Somebody said,"It's a deal".
This is a little late, but good to see, we are finely going after this bastard. After all he and Bush has done to F this country up. He now has the nerve to run for president to put us through another eight years of hell.
The polling data that is used on this bastard is apprised of a few thousand ass holes. I don't know why it is that American people do not question this revelation.
You know dame well that even the bogus polling data they give, is telling all of us that republicans do not stand a snow ball chance in hell, so why is this data not questioned when they promote this bastard with numbers like forty seven percent, against any one of the democrats with numbers likewise, only the Dem's. numbers are based on far more people then any of the ass hole rivals.
We really need to do our home work folks. These people have been and will continue to blow smoke up our asses if we do not get a grip.
What shocked me during Guliano's 9/11 testimony, after the planes hit, he had to call Washington to find out what was going on.
Wouldn't it be the other way around?
I wish I knew the answer to the first question that went through my mind on 9/11.
How could 4 planes do a u-turn, then allowed to stay in the air for close to an hour and a half, and it 3 out of 4 targets?
Another 9/11 testimony NORAD was ordered to stand down.
What does it take? Really, what does it take?
Guiliani's blatant corruption has been public knowledge for years -- take this January 2005 article for example -- yet he's the Republican front-runner?
Could anything drive away his supporters? Photos of him partying with mobsters, dining on babies, cross-dressing in bed with Osama bin Laden? But 9/11, 9/11, 9/11!
"Their willingness to stand their ground and not retreat?"
Geez...
Well, it certainly sounds noble. It's a good mythology. As I've repeatedly said about the gOP, all sound bytes and mythologizing to people who want to believe in something, but with no common sense!
Standing their ground?? Against Al queda or against terror, I presume is how the narrative goes..
.. it couldn't possibly be because their radios didn't work.
If not, then did the police, who's radio's DID work, "Cut and run"?
The video is really nice but, drop the "No-Bid Contract" business, that only confuses the major issue. Document and list the evidence against Rudy. You really need to zero down to the facts because it was a long time ago.
Rudy the gangster. Hope he does time.
could this be the piece that unravels everything?
and how about investigating/ exposing his surpression of the enviromental reports about all the toxic debris in the air after 9/11 that lead to severe lung damage and the deaths of many of the first responders ? this is cohoots, of course, with the bush and his goons in the form of the epa administrator christy whitman ? how about the recently released testimony he gave during the 9/11 commission in which he basically 'knew nothing' about the terrorists before 9/11 .. knew nothing about anything .. and yet now claims he knew everything ? how about all the lies he is peddling now ? do you think any of this will show up on say the corporate buffoon called tim russerts 'meet the propagandists' show ? given his sustained effort to put the clinton's up every chance he gets in order to 'destroy' them ? how about on 'miss piggy's' show, aka tweety in the form of christina matthews show : puffball for his repiglican buddies given his own sustained effort to destroy and lie about clinton and the phone 'story lines' that he tries to develop and promote ? think this will show up on his show ? do you think this corporate sluts hired by jack walsch will be interviewing the 9/11 firefighters who have written there own book to expose guliani ? like they compulsively interview any author writting any book on the clintons ? what do you think ? nope cause they are of course invested in trying to get another repiglican elected as president no matter what ... that's what they have been hired to do ... they simply corporate sluts who have made their faustain deals to be among the 'media elite' ... the only word they know and can say without any corporate spin is the word 'next' as they remain bent over, pants down, hands clasped to the ankles, swishing they well used assholes this way and that, and screaming 'next' the to the ever growing line of elephants penises behind them ...
Maybe before long, once he stops reading his clippings from 'Soldier of Fortune,' Russert will have a question on why Giuliani has failed to provide a clear-cut, no doubletalk, all-of-America-is-dying-to-hear answer.
It's amazing that "this isn't what the Giuliani campaign was hoping for," since they have framed Giuliani's entire campaign around 9/11! Their failure to recognize the unevitability of this occurring is yet another reason that should be of great concern to anyone thinking of supporting this guy to drumbeat this candidate out of the Presidential debate.
“this isn’t what the Giuliani campaign was hoping for,”
You say that as if guliani is actually running to be president. We all learned in 2004 that only the chosen one can be president, as John Kerry, a blood cousin of Bush, was simply stooged in place to look like a real threat to bush's re-election. Of course Kerry was just boring enough and the swift boat just swift enough to make sure he didn't get enough votes to defeat bush thus securing what was already planned from the beginning. guliani and mccain are nothing more than patsies trying to appear as though there's a real election going on, which means we are in grave danger of an idiotic democrat taking over. No, not all democrats are idiotic, but hillary sure as hell is and for some reason i don't see obama winning so I can't really tell who's going to win, but I fear it will be hillary, as she is the one democrat who wants to keep persuing middle east conquering.
Standing their ground??? From what I remember of 911, the information was all very sketchy that morning, I'm betting most of the fire fighters who were in tower 1 never even knew tower 2 was hit, hell most of them probably thought it was just some kind of freak accident that a plane would run into a building in the first place. What were they standing up against??? I'm guessing in ghouliani's eyes they were all thinking 'i must defeat this fire or the terrorist have won'. But of course, this whole terrorism issue wasn't exactly at the forefront of everyones minds before that morning so, why would they be thinking that? why would a fire fighter be defiant against his commander orders? why would a fire fighter choose death over another dinner with his family? i guess ghouliani tells himself these things so he can sleep at night. maybe cheney should try this method so he can get a decent nights sleep and stop falling asleep during work hours.
blue @ 51:
LOL...Stop it your killing me...hahahhahahahah...sides..hurting....hahahah
@Preacher Boob (21) as a Jew in NYC who would be only too happy to metaphorically hang a noose in Giuliani's campaign office, I suggest that people might take you more seriously if you eschewed the anti-semitism.
There is another movie out there about rudy that is just as damaging.
its at http://www.2girls1cup.com
I live and work in NYC and Rudy was the best mayor this town has had in my lifetime and not just because he came after a crooked, weak, moron. Go after him all you want, it won't save Hillary in 2008. Why not just make up lies about him too. Start thinking of ways to say he stole the election so you can all spring it when the time comes - not intended for those who are not loons.
This is BS. Corrupt Dem. are just creating drama for corrupt Repb. The timing is perfect. 911 was six years ago! "The families deserver answers...." BLAH BLAH... Are those answers going to make you feel better? This is not constructive. This is going back in time, wasting time!
This is great news. I believe Mr. 911 has some explaining to do.
Not that it matters in regard to Hillary. Hillary would make mincemeat out of the idiot in the debates.
rudy @ 59:
That is a compelling video. I had no idea.
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