Giuliani Parts With Neocon Adviser On Iran - War Is Now Last Resort
By Logan Murphy Sunday Dec 09, 2007 11:46am
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Rudy Giuliani will probably regret going on Meet The Press yesterday. Tim Russert asks Rudy if he still agrees with the statements made by his unhinged, campaign foreign policy adviser, Norman Podhoretz, who thinks the latest NIE report on Iran was a hit job on President Bush, and recently wrote that he "hopes and prays" that President Bush bombs Iran soon -- and that Rudy agrees with him completely.
Giuliani tries and succeeds in completely scrubbing Podhoretz from the conversation, (without actually answering the question, of course) saying that while he believes the military option must be left on the table, he thinks invading Iran should only be done as a last resort. This shows a big disconnect in the Giuliani campaign, but when it comes right down to it, does anybody believe him?
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If war is any kind of resort, I want a better travel agent.
world war IV ? Did I sit out through III?
Rudeee: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, Clinton!
two words
both no
heh...
rudy "a noun, a verb, 9-11" julie-annie
and after killing off
nearly all the native americans
the right wingers are
concerned about
"sanctuary cities"
heh...
No.
I was watching that interview yesterday just cringing for Rudy. Russert, my hometown Buffalo native, really is the only guy out there in the press that actually makes the candidates face the music. Hillary and Rudy probably lost atleast 5 points nationally from just being questioned by Russert. I would love to see Rudy's poll numbers before and after. I could only wish everyone that was going to vote caught this interview because after seeing this I don't know how anyone could vote for this little gambino.
Just out of curiosity, I wonder who Podhoretz 'prays to' for the bombing of Iran?
Wolfowitz? Perle? Cheney? AIPAC? AEI? Olmert? The Preposterous Putz?
We can't invade Iran for the single, basic reason: We do not have the troops to pull it off.
This says NOTHING about bombing 'em, though.
Israel is getting ready to attack Iran. they will then require USer intervention to prevent the inevitable blowback...
lie lie lie more lie
So much crap comes out of Rudy's mouth, I wonder what's left for him to defecate?
Besides the bones of his foot.
wonder if 'miss' chris matthews is gonna stop ejaculating all over himself now when he thinks of this drag queen called guiliani ... probably not given that he is a draq queen himself ...
talking about war
makes republicans sound
tough
they do need all the help they can get
I'll give them that
lindsey graham are you
listening
heh...
how about you
chuck mcconell
heh...
I'm surprised guiliani
is even attracted to women
the lispy limp wristed
not that there's anything wrong
with that
heh...
Remember? War with Iraq was the last resort if Saddam couldn't prove the negative he didn't have WMD's.
Now the onus is on Ahmadinejad to prove the negative he has no nuclear weapons program.
There's a logical rationale for Giuliani's campaign strategy.
'If a lot of those dummies out there believe Bush's bullshit, why not mine?'
And by "last resort" I mean "I called the guy and got his machine so fuck 'im."
clumberfeet @ 15:
You say that as if it's tough to prove a negative. Look at Giuliani, he's proven he has no brain, he's proven he has no sense, he's proven he has no chance.
I'm watching it again on youtube and damn Russert is just shooting him point blank in the face every two minutes
what a beautiful thing I hope Russert kills Mitt next week in the same fashion
Rudy is irrelevant to the discourse unless you count turning the stomachs of the general public.
Every Republican is going for the base of the party and the KOOL AID DRINKERS will not carry an election.
Unless the Republicans turn on Bush and support an impeachment of this administration and it's dictatorial and unilateral policies then the Republicans are done, stick a fork in the brand name because it's history.
Like the guy in the mustache said to the lady in the drapes in Gone With the Wind, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a dam."
Rudy should limit himself to just one talk show, Rush Limbaugh.
And then he should STFU and just listen.
That's almost punishment enough for his lies.
(I wonder if that's prohibited by the Geneva Conventions?)
"...when it comes right down to it, does anybody believe him?
Now that's really funny.
"world war IV ? Did I sit out through III?"
No, the opening credits are rolling now ...
(remember: IV will be with rocks and sticks ...)
woody @ 10:
Always with the pesky details, aren't you Woody?
antv @ 2:
WWIIIa was just before Bill and Hillary made their TV appearance together, to ignore the fact of his infidelities.
WWIIIb was just after the DNA analysis on the blue dress.
WWIIIc occured in Democratic headquarters when Gore decided not to challenge the Florida decision.
WWIIId-z is occurring right now in Iraq and all the world's capitols, as folks are plotting how to overthrow the US.
Be careful, invading and bombing are two different things...
Giuliani looked uncomfortable the entire time
I was wondering how you can possibly pray for war...lasI'm not sure that God appreciates prayers for killing people
Giuliani threatening Iran reminded me of a bully demanding lunch money, or else he would beat you up
The current NeoConZionist master plan for the attack on Iran, is for Israel to do it, and then for the US to defend Israel from the Arab/Muslim reaction. All Israel needs is a 'provocation' to start the war.
So Ahmadinejad should keep a close watch on all the Australian tourists in Teheran, because if one of them swears 'Oh Kikey', all hell's gonna break loose.
And what if the Arab/Muslim reaction is to stop the flow of oil to the US/Israel? You can get around Israel on a bicycle, but it would sure slow interstate commerce in the US.
When Bush was asked to sign this 'Master' plan, he did. But he signed 'Dick Cheney'.
His remaining neuron is still functioning.
"Does anyone believe him?" --
No.
*
Republican front runners for president:
1. A Baptist minister who thinks the earth is 4,000 years old, and human beings descend from Adam and Eve;
2. A Morman bishop who can't make up his mind and doesn't mind an unconstitutional religious test for office, as long as he passes it; and
3. A corrupt former mayor who continues to abuse his position for personal gain, and who appropriated the bravery of New Yorkers on 9/11 as his own.
Any one of these guys will be eviscerated in the general election. Folks, I think we have a dying party here.
Logan, while I disagree with you that Giuliani didn't answer the question (personally, I thought he did, although you are correct that he didn't really address the Podhoretz issue), I watched most of this MTP segment with him and there were parts of the interview when it was painfully obvious that Rudy was LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH. Not only this segment, but especially when Tim had him on the ropes talking about (forgive my ignorance) nominating some corrupt guy (can't remember his name - cop from NY I think) for Homeland Security Chief. Wow! Watching that made ME uncomfortable. This guy (Giuliani) is a dirtbag, plain and simple.
I trust him just about as far as I could throw him (which is about 5 inches if we were both standing on a stack of books).
These neocons rose to power through a total lack of soul. I can't understand it.
Swashbuckler @ 27:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUogzf1h2UY
I have criticized Timmuh in the past but I gotta give credit where credit is due. He came to that interview loaded for bear. Good for him. When Tim was asking about which companies and who his law firm worked with, Rudy acted like a total idiot. He was laughing out loud and at one point actually clapped his hands. I'm sure Tim was wondering if the fu*k was going to have some sort of breakdown.
Rudy Giuliani appeared to be suffering a bit of waterboarding yesterday on MTP. He was gasping for air numerous times. For a rare instance, Tim was actually doing some first rate grilling. I would think that MTP viewers are more than likely going to vote in the 08 election, and anyone who was paying attention some some real flop sweat coming from Mr. 9/11. Not too impressive!
Dr. Matt @ 3:
After Jan 20 2009: 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, Clinton, the past administration, 9/11, 9/11...
Rudy will say anything to get through today's sale so he can go on his newest new wife smell quest
I remember when the notion that war should only be undertaken as a last resort was so commonplace that it wouldn't have merited comment. That was about twelve Freidmans ago.
War was a "last resort" with Iraq too.
The Mighty Pod has spoken! Mere mortals should tremble and quake in fear at his words of wisdom! Let's just not talk about Bernard Kerik and Judi Nathan. Please!
Rudy is just more habitually lying, Reslugs running for office.
Can Presnuts Rudy be worse than Bush ? Yes !
Rudy ruled NYC like a tinpot dictator. Mistressgate is only one example of that. So yeah, he's a schoolyard bully at heart. He's also more dangerous than Bush (although maybe not Cheney) because he is slightly more intelligent and definitely more ruthless.
It'th liketh thith, Thim - I thtill believe Iran needth to be blown to kingdom come whether they have nuclear capabilitieth or not. Oh wait, voterth don't like war anymore? OK, ummm, I think we thould make war with Iran a latht rethort.
You thee, Thim - I need to thell the voterth what they want to hear tho they'll vote for me, you thee what I mean?? Yeah, I know Romney's mathtered that shtick already, but I'm Rudy! I'm Mithter 9/11, God dammit!
Key word is "invading", invading does not equal bombing.
During the 2000 election I was confident that nobody as stupid as Bush could get elected to the highest office in the country. I'd like to think the same of guliani, but I'm not holding my breath.
I love when he said "Irresponsible regime" HA...HA...HA. That's a good one Rudy. Is this a case of the kettle calling the teapot black?
This guy is a scumbag. I am a New Yorker. I actually thought Giuliani was not bad when he was mayor. However, what I and probably most other NYers who have changed their view on Giuliani now think is this guys is just a sell-out, an opportunist, and someone who will say anything to get elected. He has changes his views and flip flopped on just about everything. Abortion, guns, gays.. you name it. It is also disgusting that this guy has benefited more off the backs of the 9-11 dead than just about anyone else on the planet. His lobby firm that he set up to capitalize on 9-11 has made him millions, while it does very questionable business with Qatar, which help to impair terrorist investigations, and today we learn it has worked with the big utilities to kill a new energy bill that would have helped to bring more alternative energy to America.
Why would you vote for this guy? His familty values are significantly below those of the average american family. He has show massive misjudgement both professionally and personally. He really did nothing pre- and post 9/11. His claim that he was responsible for lifting up NY are very questionable, as crime dropped in almost all major cities in the U.S. in the 90s, and in some cities more than NY and the economic policies of Clinton massively helped NY.
All he offers is very simple minded tough talk and fear mongering. He just used the Bush playbook.
He is more devisive the Hillary, lies a heck of a lot more than Clinton, and his familty values are a hell of a lot lower than the Clintons. Sure Bill Clinton got a blow job from an intern, but at least they are trying to keep their family together and are not hustling a mistress around on tax payers money. He claims that his mistress need protection, but that is bullshit because she was getting driven around (and her familty too) before anyone knew she was Giuliani's mistress, so how would have anyone threatened here if they did not know she was linked to Giuliani. The only threat she should have gotten was from Giulani's wife at the time....
If Romney or Guiliani get the nomination America becomes a fascist state, Cofer Black who organised the demolitions of WTC and the attack is Romney's new Defense Secretary, Cofer Black a founding member of Blackwater. If either of these guys becomes President I'm leaving the country!
pissed off patricia @ 36:
I couldn't stop laughing at that part, but it wasn't with Rudy. I was thinking how can a man running for president act so goofy and childish being asked about such an important issue. That part is in this video:
It starts at 4:51 in
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vE9uKnIwGr0
As with any other Republican, I wouldn't belive Giulliani if he told me the sky is usually blue. They're all self-deluding, pathological liars, and that goes for Pastor Huckabee and Bishop Romney, too.
The answer is NO-HELL NO!! The only one you can trust in both parties is Ron Paul.
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