January 28, 2008 05:03 PM
Fact Check: Bush "Plain Wrong" on Afghanistan
A fact check from the National Security Network on President Bush's State of the Union comments regarding Afghanistan show the country is still in a state of disrepair. Bush claimed that:
A nation that was once a safe haven for al Qaida is now a young democracy where boys and girls are going to school, new roads and hospitals are being built, and people are looking to the future with new hope.
On each point, Bush is absolutely wrong...Read on...
What were you expecting? Reality and truth from George W. Bush?



FRUST!
You can always count on a repug to tell it like it isn't.
Wrong my black ass, Bush is a fucking pathological liar!
Yes they have hope.
Hope like any farmer waiting for their crop to come in
Opium.
L&L's right: "wrong" is not the same as lying. Bush has been lying to America his whole career. You can't even claim he was "consistent," other than consistently corrupt. He changed reasons for invading Afghanistan and Iraq depending entirely on which story worked from moment to moment.
Alternate Universe Bush knows of what he speaks.
I hope you got a lot of blog space available if you're going to post on every SOTU topic where the facts don't "check"!
How many days left now, and he's still got Iran to invade on behalf of the americon people.....
It's going to be quite the clean up legacy for such a long time, if not forever.
Left&Left @ 3:
Plesae allow me to send the same message except with "white ass". I can't dance anything except a polka, bro.
Bush got us into two unwinnable wars and a third isn't far beyond his means....
Why, oh why did this tarsier get office?
Don't you think that should read "plain LYING on Afghanistan"? Or how about "Fact Check: * Plain Lying Every Time His Lips Are Moving"?
Great shot of Nancy cheering shrub in the background.
He changed reasons for invading Afghanistan and Iraq depending entirely on which story worked from moment to moment.
That's the thing with these neocons, they'll say ANYTHING in the moment to avoid looking stupid. They could care less about over-arching policy, vision, any of that, you put one on the spot and he'll glib something out.
"Debate" for these guys is when you make your opponent look dumb or less on top of things than yourself. What he does, what he thinks, what he says, none of that is important.
The most respected neocon pundits and writers don't have any over-arching plan other than "USA Domination", their articles are based on the week's headlines, and anyone seeing long-range trends of death or economic problems is "thinking negatively", they've got a "loser script".
To me, that is the most potent tie with historical fascist thought: the anti-intellectualism that prioritizes momentary advantage over any other consideration. The only thing that matters is "being strong", ALL THE TIME.
Usually this amounts to being willing to break the law, or kill people. Not for the good of your plan, but because if you aren't for "Double Guantanamo", or if you don't want "Jack Bauer to head the DHS", you look "weak" in the debate. If you think Christ would oppose torture and the bombing of women and children, you're just not resolved enough.
Unfortunately, this isn't all hypotheticals, and people are really dying by the thousands so that Bush and friends can look tough.
Of course he's fucking LYING! He's lying because 75% (at least) of the people in this country are ignorant and will believe what he's saying. He's the president, and that's good enough for the average double-digit IQ American.
more at my blog...
When I see Pelosi smiling back there, I wonder what the f-ck she's smiling about.
Does anyone know whether, when Bush said the surge was working, Clinton or Obama were among those
applauding?
"A nation that was once a safe haven for al Qaida is now a young democracy where boys and girls are going to school, new roads and hospitals are being built, and people are looking to the future with new hope."
I wonder exactly which "nation" the chimp is referring to....ALABAMA???
Well, it was once "A nation that was once a safe haven for al Qaida" - he's right about that.
I can't graps the Superpowers obsession with Afghanistan. Either it's because it's a damn easy target, OR, it's the dope. Which is it? Sure isn't to stop the fear of communism (Soviet Union) and it sure isn't the War on Terra. Afghans have been put through hell and back for decades. Why? Anyone? The closest they actually ever got to having their tribes get along, and some kind of human rights was when the Taliban was in power. What did the world do? Kick out the Taliban, and install a dunce US Puppet that has no power outside of ONE city. Oh yippee. Even Canadians have caught onto this scam, and our government repeats the same BS the US regime is. They aren't after Al Qaeda, nor the Taliban, or the troops would have been in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, etc, etc, after Bushie declared the Second coming of the War on Terra (first was Ronnie Raygun and we all saw how well that went).
Anthology @ 15:
Clinton was applauding along with everyone else...Obama, not so much...Pelosi? Vibrator in underwear or what?
He has to say "boys and girls" and not "children," so he can show he's for girls' rights, i guess.
He did a lot of smirking and goofy smiling between messages last nite. Gaack!
Mr bush just gave the SOS on the SOTU and as usual sounded like the POS he is..
zonk @ 16:
if the son of a bitch had mentioned that the grave diggers were makeing a killing there ,youd of figured out the corksucker was speaking of iraq!!!!!!!!!!
gee dumbya boosh = Worst President Ever!
Full SOTU Fact Anaylsis
http://www.thinkprogress.org.
scroll down half the page, there are at least twenty different topics covered extensively...
ConcernedCanuck @ 19:
cell phone in crotch.
Hasn't Bush been wrong about everything? Why should this be any different.
He just talks from his ass anyway.
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Number of Operations Iraq Freedom and Enduring Freedom casualties
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Jo @ 24:
Either that or she has the same plastic surgeon as Dolly Parton. Saw that woman on television the other day, and she looks like the Joker off Batman. Permanent smile, her face has been sucked back so far. When she wants her boobs rubbed now, she just massages her shoulders!!
I think we need a new law in this country: You have to be sworn in, under threat of perjury, before you can speak to the nation. I wouldn't let this guy cat sit for me.
ConcernedCanuck @ 18:
er, look at a map...which country is between iraq and afghanistan? concernedcanuck? anyone? bueller?
keep watchin' the skies...
Hey C & L. CNN SUCKS!
Did we expect Bush to tell the truth? He's lied to the American people on everything. In fact I don't think he's ever told the truth. If he were making $30-60K per year, he would be on the other side of the tracks, but he's worth a billion dollars, so he'll never understand. On the other hand I believe he was fed paint chips as a child and dropped on his head. LOL! It would be nice if there was a reason for why he acts the ways he does.
I am an average American, formerly a Republican but independent in my political views and leaning towards true conservative views, not necessarily what is being espoused in the media as conservative these days. I consider myself to have decent ethical and moral values.
I had to watch President George W. Bush’s last State of the Union speech, mainly out of curiosity.
Quite frankly, I was a little surprised. The speech was merely a repetition of things past, nothing new. However, watching how our elected officials reacted to the speech, I found myself feeling very shocked.
Granted, George W. Bush is the President of the US and the position should be given some deference and respect, but his record on many issues is not one that lends itself to bring respect for the man. Here was a President who has violated common ethics, laws, and rules of this country, a proven liar, both to Congress and to the American people, as well as a man considered to be a war criminal by many other well respected countries of the world, a man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people including thousands of our own military, delivering a rather mundane but political speech, getting members of his own party to jump to their feet, applaud, hoot, yee-ha and generally act like a bunch of school children at recess, over nothing.
How low have politicians sunk to? Where are the real statesmen and stateswomen, those with real ethics and morals? Where is the moral outrage at where our country has been taken? Are there no morally sound independent thinkers within the Republican Party?
Where are the supposed adult men and women? Watching this spectacle, I am certain that if there had been a cliff behind the President, and he told the Republican lemmings to jump off of it, they would have done so. It was scary. It was also revealing.
How have the Republican elected officials come to such positions, where party loyalty to the President figures more importantly than loyalty to our country, the people of our country and respect for the rule of law? It is an important question and needs investigation. Watching the party faithful jump to their feet for ostensibly no valid reasons gives an appearance of something more sinister, almost as if these elected men and women were brainwashed. Try as I may, I cannot shake the feeling that something is afoot which is much more dangerous than anything prior in our history.
I hope I am wrong.
I have NEVER hit another person in the face in my life, but I would soooo love to slap that shit eating grin off his pompous mug....just once. I'd even be willing to do a little public service or whatever for the honor.
Bush signing statement prevents ban on permanent bases in Iraq
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/29/signing-statement-iraq/
so little time !such piss poor candidates!
Ann Coulter told Dubya things were going swimmingly. Chrissy Mathews will be booking her soon to further explain.
prunes @ 13:
I thought that this was worth repeating.
He must be right about Afganistan. The average person makes less than a hundred bucks a month. Sounds like a democracy to me. An American democracy not in the too distant future.
fred c dobbs @ 28:
Actually the British were in Afghaistan in the 19th century ( most of the 19th century) because they feared Russia would move in and threaten British iinterests in India. That effort had nothing to do with Iran ( Persia). In the end the British were driven out , not by the Russians ,ut by the Afghans ( very ugly ).
A quote from the movie " Kite Runner" , as the Russia tanks rolled into Kabul .....
" Afghanistan is not kind to invaders" . History is repeating itself . Bush was just kidding.
Anthology @ 15:
Oh god no ... Don't tell me that Pelosi's facial expression wasn't permanently set in lines of disapproval. Heaven forbid she should forget herself and let any other expression cross her face. Someone might see it and make negative comments about it on a blog (rather than ... you know ... actually researching her record).
He doesn't care if he is right or wrong. All he cares about is keeping the 29%ers in the dark.
Bob Roberts @ 39:
I think the Ghost of Dick Cheney had gas.
Last night, I got up from my desk and circled around for a while so that I wouldn't have to watch or see Bunnypants stammering out his final SOTU.
That's the only consolation: It was his final one.
Unless of course he declares martial law ...
Look at that grinning , braying stupid jackass ; all of you who voted for the douchebag should be deported immediately...............
24 Jo Says: ConcernedCanuck @ 19:
Anthology @ 15:
When I see Pelosi smiling back there, I wonder what the f-ck she’s smiling about.
Does anyone know whether, when Bush said the surge was working, Clinton or Obama were among those
applauding?
Clinton was applauding along with everyone else…Obama, not so much…Pelosi? Vibrator in underwear or what?
cell phone in crotch.
Set on vibrate?
Patriot Scholar @ 31:
I wish you were.
In 2000, the "conservative" Supreme Court appointed a fascist to rule us. Since then, he has been consolidating his rule - and everyone rich has gotten much richer.
You have been buying party labels instead of believing the evidence of your eyes. There is no longer a progressive party. The conservative party is now the Democrats. They throw an occasional bone to the Democratic base, but the last two Democratic presidents didn't even claim to be liberal.
The Republican party is not conservative at all - they are radical and fascist.
I could argue and justify each of these points; in your case, I don't think that's necessary. Open your eyes and forget the labels for a short time - you will recognize the truth in what I say.
I am a progressive and I support progressives. In the (incredibly unlikely) event that the Republicans become the progressive party, I'll support them. Principled conservatives (like Senator Jim Webb (D), a former Reagan appointee) have been abandoning the fascist Republicans in droves - and find a good fit in today's Democratic party.
For now, there is no viable party that fits me. You are fortunate - at least you have someplace to go.
ralph @ 9:
Please allow me to send the same message except with "whole, entire ass". I'm a big fan of Della Reese.
Blue Lensman @ 7:
That's a whole lot of ass kissing, too!
:lol:
Fact checked is fudged facts.
If and when IMPEACHMENT hearing ever happens; to hold BUSH/Cheney accountable, and found guilty of waging an illegal war based on lies, and falsifying documents to justify an attack on IRAQ, and later found that the reason for going to war was ACTUALLY for OIL and to personally enrich themselves and their buddies using the nations' taxes; collected from it's citizen; if convicted, can they (and his co-conspirators) be charged for misappropriation of funds and mis-use of human resources (military) along with other charges in addition to war crimes? Can their looting of our nation's treasury be recovered from them? Like the filipinos did to Ferdinand and Imelda Marcos?
When is it appropriate for people of United State to excercise and make "CITIZENS ARREST"?
I learned from the news that in Brattleboro, Vermont; the town is getting ready to VOTE on ARRESTING BUSH AND CHENEY if they ever set foot in Vermont.
Jeannie See @ 40:
Wow, it's still that high ?
UnEasyOne @ 45:
Smedley Butler saw your dilemna and resigned.
Dwight Eisenhower warned America about it as he was leaving.
We are simply so busy hating some 'other' americans, we are easily used against each other and ourselves.
Two years from now George Bush will be:
(a) Working for a middle eastern oil sheik, or
(b) working for Haliburton or,
(c) At the International Criminal Court in the Hague to claim the NoBail Prize
Your choice or addition?
too bad this speech was not the last of the lies we would have to endure
from this bastard. we can only hope he is not able to push us over the
cliff in ruin.
dadams @ 51:
Which will likely be the invasion (or air strike) of Iran.
What the fuck planet does this BOZO live on?
Bush SOTU 28 Jan 2008 ---- "Defeating the Taliban and al Qaeda is critical to our security, and I thank the Congress for supporting America's vital mission in Afghanistan."
Direct quote from Bush ---- For Immediate Release --- Office of the Press Secretary --- November 24, 2003 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031124-6.html --- ''Working with a fine coalition, our military went to Afghanistan, destroyed the training camps of al Qaeda, and put the Taliban out of business forever.'' (Applause.)
The look on Pelosi's face says it all... She had a blast...
Has Bush ever been right about anything in his whole life?
Vickif @ 56:
Yes: faking religion would get him elected.
The Bush family crime syndicate. Three generations of crooks, con men, and liars. May we never see the likes of their kind again!
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 58:
They are just the epitome of the americon dream, get a rich as you can and fuck everyone else (and the world), it's what the country stands for now.
I'd say most americons dissatisfaction with it, is that they aren't as rich as them opposed to anything else.
Did anyone else laugh when he talked about A Charge to Keep. C&L had a story about that painting a week or so ago.
Jesse
grandma pelosi and limp dick harry should just publically blow bush and give cheney a rim job.
Yeah, well, he also once said that "the Taliban are no longer in existence". And we know how that turned out for him.
See the guy on the left, five deferment whatshisname...
He'll conveniently forget to take his Coumadin for a month and it will
all be over at long last.
flatearth friedman @ 61:
You mean one of those rim jobs where the rim keeps turning even though your car is stopped at a red light?
Jim Rose @ 50:
Warden in the Hell's Angels wing of in the Women's penitentiary?
PinkyLeftBrain @ 55:
She's a friend of boosh, and he knows where to get the primo nose candy.
GW's approval rating is lower than any other president in history and it doesn't seem to bother him. He just keeps on spinning and lying.
rain @ 67:
Cite ? I thought he had a little way to go yet.
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