Ron Paul calls McCain's foreign policy 'immoral'
How many different ways can Paul tell us how he really feels about McCain's foreign policy? It doesn't look like Ron Paul is going to endorse McCain anytime soon.
Republican Rep. Ron Paul told the Tribune this morning he will not back Sen. John McCain as his party's nominee unless the Arizona senator "has a lot of change of heart."
I can not support anybody with the foreign policy he advocates, you know, perpetual war. That is just so disturbing to me," Paul said."I think it's un-American, un-Constitutional, immoral, and not Republican."
Since McCain's whole strategy is to be the biggest war hawk on the planet, I doubt he'll have that change of heart. If anything, he'll start talking more about Iran. Howie wondered if Paul would be forced to endorse him a few days ago, but that looks highly doubtful.
Paul may feel a great deal of pressure to back McCain. Many of his libertarian supporters say that will never happen.
FOIST!!
Scary that Ron Paul sounds like the most sensible Republican out there.
Wow...Pauls got backbone, no denyin that.
Ron Paul is such a thorn in the side of the Repugs, and I love it!
Even the crazy guy thinks Ol' Tweety's BoyFriendF is freakin' nuts.
Prairie Sunshine @ 2:
Yeah it is scary. Look how far we've come, when he's become on of the sanest voices of reason.
I fear for my country.
The war hawks that want a redo of World War II seem to be winning. I felt so sick when I heard the radio talk show hosts in 2003 wax poetic about how glorious World War II was and how we need a war like that for our generation.
It looks like they could very well get their dream of seeing millions of young Americans dead on the battlefield, bleeding for glory.
Well, I agree with Ron Paul on this subject.
I love Ron Paul... it's too bad his campaign is run by half-wits.
And yes, he has more spine than any Republican or Democrat running, but democrats are too loyal to party and republicans are too loyal to crazies like McCain.
We'll look back and see what he could have done for us.
"The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now — with somebody — and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives."
- Hunter S. Thompson (9/12/2001)
Dear Ron Paul, Your Independent run awaits. Can you say 3rd party? Of course you can.
Dain Brammaged @ 9:
He won't run 3rd Party.
He's taken too much slack for his run in the 80s.
enor @ 4:
I KNOW!! How DARE he show them what the Republican party is supposed to be like!? The NERVE!!!
Most politicians who call themselves Republicans these days, are nothin like the Republicans of old...their party's been hi-jacked...shanghai'ed...hornswaggled, if you will, by the bible thumpin reich wingers since Bush I. If not before.
RP is weak on terror. Remember 9/11!
Prairie Sunshine @ 2:
In some ways he is the most sensible of all the candidates.
If everyone in this country just voted for the candidate they feel is the best and didn't worry about "electability" It would be Kucinich and Edwards fighting it out to face Paul in November.
And our country would be better for it.
John is correct that I posed the question about Paul endorsing McCain to save himself problems with the zombie-like Republicans in his home district. But today I have an update: no endorsement from Paul for the war-mongering McCain. And, what's even better, Paul's supporters seem to be indicating they prefer Obama to McCain.
McCain's policies may be immoral, but the man himself is amoral.
Just as is his mentor, The Dummy.
Is it possible we could commit two immoral acts in a row, and follow the reign of the amoral The Dummy, with the equally madly megalomaniacal reign of the amoral The Ancient Mad Warrior?
Illegal, immoral--maybe even fattening!
supremecourtjester @ 17:
It certainly is to the neocon wallets
The way McCain treated Paul was an outrage, but that's all he's got-- trying to make the rational seem loony by eye-rolling and funny faces.
LOL. McCain is the biggest war hawk on the planet? Fat chance of that happening while Kristol and the Podhoretz "twins" are still sitting up and taking nourishment.
DownWithTyranny @ 15:
Paul supporters preferring Obama over McCain? Lew Rockwell is one. While for himself he says he'll either sit out or write in Ron Paul; but for the electorate as a whole, Obama would be the more liberty-minded choice over the statist, warmongering, ill-tempered and possibly unstable John McCain.
No love for McCain from libertarians.
Paul may feel a great deal of pressure to back McCain. Many of his libertarian supporters say that will never happen.
No, it's not going to happen -- and it's not going to matter.
Damn you all you didn't vote for Ron Paul.
On this subject, I agree with Paul.
I have a campaign slogan or Huckabee that might help him. He could pledge if he wins the election he will put a squirrel in every popcorn popper. Not exactly as good as a chicken in every pot, but times have changed.
Mark @ 23:
He wasn't on the Democratic ticket.
Yes; be republican; that is; be immoral, and make war war war and more war. Lifes a little more complex than just making war. Sure you played GI Joe as a kid, but now you are a grown up.
I am a ron paul supporter who will back Obama once I hear more about his issues and less about change change change. I mean ron paul wants to change the national government more than anyone but you dont here him saying change change!!!! You hear him at least try to air his viewpoints.
I care only about issues like the war , and monetary policy. If obama speaks to these isssues...He has my vote. It would be wise of him to get more radical! Speak out more against the war. HE can only gain ron paul's supporters!
This is the same Ron Paul that says "no student visas from terrorist nations" in his immigration ad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4
Willie @ 18:
Wrong. For just one example, the IAMAW has been thriving under all the defense spending.
pissed off patricia @ 25:
Good one, POP!
Ron Paul will never support John McCain and neither would his supporters. Paul hates the neocons and McCain is one of the biggest neocons out there. It is well kept secret, but McCain was the choice of the neocons against George W. Bush in 2000. When Bush won, the neocons coalesced around Bush because in large part he lacked foreign policy knowledge. McCain has always shared the foreign policy aims of the neocon agenda. Ron Paul is very aware of McCain's cozy relationship with the neocons. Lieberman is great pals with McCain because he (McCain) wants to attack every Arab nation out there just as Lieberman and his neocon pals do. If you "liked Bush" then, you will just "love McCain" as America gets ready to attack more and more nations in the Middle East. McCain has already promised Bush and Cheney he will continue the administration's jihad, I mean GWOT, after they leave office.
On another note the very neocon channel of CNN does it again:
CNN Links Obama to Osama
Run time: 00:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di1eW-sJCvA
The entire media has become a unitary platform for the neocon agenda of the United States criminal/aggressive foreign policy.
Only an unprincipled ma would feel pressured and that's not Ron Paul.
Dr. Acula @ 30:
Are you guys under a tornado watch like we are here?
Mr. XXXX @ 31:
Hoof... a big global conspiracy - this ominous "cabal" that "hijacked" the USA.... Zzz Zzz...
neocon is just another term for USA minus the fringe.
well, this is something i actual, wholeheartedly, 100% agree with ron paul on....
ron paul, with his critique of our military imperialism, is spot on... as far as the other aspects of his candidacy... well, i'll stop with the fact that i agree with him on this one issue.
pissed off patricia @ 33:
I don't know if an official watch has been declared, but it's supposed to be really awful tonight -- rain & 50 mph winds & possible tornadoes. Yikes.
As a Ron Paul supporter I'll vote for Obama if my state happens to be a close race between him and McCain.
If not i'll write in Paul.
But Who knows what will happen.
Well put Old Hack.
Unlike the two remaining Democratic candidates, Ron Paul has the conviction to lay down a clear anti-war foreign policy strategy. Obama wants to invade Pakistan, Clinton won't promise to get us out of Iraq, and they are both in the pockets of AIPAC.
Wake up Clinton and Obama fans, before we end up with a Democratic Bush-Lite.
Samo Umer @ 34:
I saw this vid on raw story this morning. I immediately sent an email to cnn to lambast them about how sad it is that they're trying to become Fox Noise.
Dr. Acula @ 39:
Thanks. I watched the video and I can't believe my eyes. I think this was their attempt at humor (?). They have Clinton pointing to Monica Lewinsky and Obama pointing to Bin Laden. This is not humor. I am so sick of the MSM and the stuff they keep pulling. Keep posting stuff like this to keep us informed. I won't see it on TV because I've quit watching CNN & MSNBC.
Dr. Acula @ 37:
I know, it makes me a little uneasy, especially after dark. Thank goodness we have one of the new weather radios. If you don't have one, pick one up at Publix. The new ones are a hundred percent better than the old ones. I donated my old one to the thrift shop. I felt for someone who couldn't afford the new one, an old one for cheap would be better than nothing.
Samo Umer @ 34:
LOL! Good one! Here's another.
fascist is just another term for Germany (in 1939) minus the "fringe".
jr @ 28:
Sadly his inept campaign has pandered to the Right Wing, touting his views on abortion and immigration. It's given us about 3-6 percent of the vote too.
In a state like Washington where most of his supporters come from the left we got 21+ percent of the vote. (the Ron Paul campaign told a lot of people to vote uncommitted). We should have been trying to pull from the left all along, not pander to a dying party of neo-cons who hate us.
Face facts.
Ron Paul is not a Republican, he is a constitutionalist.
Speaking of Iran, has Obama ever promised to take nuking Iran OFF THE TABLE?
No?
Rethink Obama, people.
Paul has his faults, but he is not wrong on this one.
pissed off patricia @ 25:
He is still a racist.
jr @ 28:
And then all his supporters freaked. And Ron Paul likely freaked too, and we never saw the ad again.
old hack @ 35:
Clap Clap Clap Clap
First things first. Bring home our troops. End the drug war. Release non-violent drug offenders. Abolish the IRS. Allow us to be kind -- for ourselves -- instead of at threat of gunpoint.
Billy Bob @ 46:
I did not nor would I vote for Paul. Just because I agree with him on one or two points doesn't mean I could support his candidacy
McCain won't win the general election.
People know him too well.
Uhh to "Old Hack" First of all, way to demonize the entire website's pool of viewers because one or two of the C&L employees are sick of how the media treats Hillary. This is a media watchdog website in case you didn't realize that, it doesn't surprise me that someone who generalizes so much overlooked this. You know what's amoral? Demonizing whole groups of people you don't know at all because your on your shouting box. You sound a lot like a few Neocon man-children I see on the media weekly...
I think most of us support Obama and Edwards then Clinton, but regardless, get a f*cking grip.
MSM is Neocon
... and I had wrongly thought that patriotism was the last refuge of...
DownWithTyranny @ 15:
I'm a Ron Paul supporter and I can say for sure that I prefer Obama to McCain. But a vote for principle is never wasted. I'm voting for Ron Paul, period!
i like to think that when you follow the Right as far out there as you can, and you follow the Left as far out there as you can you eventually realize that the line we de-mark these political leanings on is not a straight line but actually a hoola hoop. And way back there behind your head in a place you cant see, Left and Right meet. It is the inverse of the "Center" we see sitting in front of our noses everyday and its called "sanity." Thats right, "center-left", "center-right" they are all just degrees of "insanity."
This is why us Paulites love the guy. He absolutely refuses to back down from his beliefs. I know many on here disagree vehemently with him on some issues (as do I) but you have to admit he is consistent. This is the guy who said we should trade with Cuba at the Univision debate, while every other candidate was trying to outdo each other with references to "the dictator". He was booed strongly, but did not waver. If more candidates were like him ( and Kucinich, Gravel, etc.) this country would be a much better place.
Paul in L.A. should be arriving soon to explain how RP wants the poor to starve, loves corporations, wants to invade the Netherlands, etc.
Brad @ 49:
You do know that's Ron Paul's platform, right?
Samo Umer @ 13:
Being weak on terror means letting Bin Laden escape into Pakistan. He will not face justice thanks to Bush/Cheney doctrine. We attack a country that didn't not attack us. Ron Paul is the only one of the Republicans that understand why we were attack on 911. This is based on facts. In the 80's, an American warship shot down an Iranian airliner full of civilians in the Persian gulf. Two Libyan terrorists responded by blowing up an American airliner over Scotland. That part of our history, we forget. The Muslim world doesn't forget. We need to remove the Bush/Cheney doctrine out of the Republican party. If not, this country will be looking for wars without end. War on terror is the biggest lie of this decade.
I'm thinking I'm going to write Ron Paul in during the national election.
see video: Vote for Gravel Today in D.C., Maryland or Virginia
I wish Mr. Paul luck in his effort to retain his endangered Congressional seat. The shrimping industry needs those fat federal subsidies.
Great choice, a right wing loon, a theocrat and a Bush wannabe.
Remember "War is Peace"
I like Ron Paul and his stance on the war but some of his other ideas are a little scary.
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Number of Operations Iraq Freedom and Enduring Freedom casualties
as confirmed by U.S. Central Command: 4417
The really scary people in this country are the ones who believe Barack Hesein Obama is in the same league with Ron Paul. It is beyond scary to believe there are people who are so disconnected from reality to believe in the phony "change" rhetoric of this poor soul. Wake up before you get what you deserve.
In a sane America, John McCain wouldn't be considered for Assistant Dogcatcher. But since his Daddy was an Admiral and his Grand Daddy was a bigshot too, he gets to play Senator and blow all of our minds with his insanity. I mean, for crying out loud people, this man has been endorsed by John Bolton. In a sane America, that in itself should be considered the kiss of death. But noooooooooo, he is actually the front runner-he talks about wars, thousands of years of wars, "islamofascism (lol)" and stayin the course.
And the people gobble it up and say it tastes good.
Lets face it, the United States of America needs fixing that is even beyond the repair of the good Dr. Paul.
I'm still unsure as to which one of corporate America's chosen candidates to vote for. With Edwards out, if RP had a chance, I'd probably switch parties an vote for him although I don't agree with all of his policies. What I do know is that he is an honest man and against illegal immigration. Those are big enough reasons for this Democrat to vote for Dr. Paul.
Ron Paul will never be elected president. But he's the most thoroughly honest candidate in the race, with the possible exception of Dennis Kucinich (who also won't be elected).
Mark @ 23:
thats how i feel abou it, but hey, what can we do...
bkj @ 9:
Ah yes, Hunter S. Truly a great American. I wish he were still around, he would have understood Ron Paul.
That some people consider McCain a "moderate" is only evidence of how far right the Republican nutcases have gone.
It is so sad what passes for reasoned debate nowadays, people seem willfully blind to the forces that manipulate them because to admit they are being played is way too scary. So our soldiers are going to continue dying, our country will continue to be raped financially and psychologically and it is becoming very clear that the biggest cheerleaders for the advancement of the New World Order -- which will be packaged as the revival of the Democratic Party to the White House -- will be coming from sites like this. Those of you who support a Hillary or an Obama will be directly contributing to a loss of individual freedom not just in America, but around the world. And many of you seem OK with that as long as you get your Bushish candidate gets in.
BTW, what did the Democrats in the Senate pass today? Didn't Senator Dodd describe it as the biggest intrusion of privacy in America ever? Did you all learn nothing after 2006? Apparently so.
Dr. Paul announced today that there should be a march on Washington -- possibly on Memorial Day or the 4th of July -- which, if the turnout was large enough, would be difficult for the media to ignore. Dr. Paul has shown from the outset that he is a man of integrity and consistency, and that his principal motivation was to highlight how freedom in America is being seriously eroded by the military-industrial complex bent on creating an American Empire abroad and a police state at home. One of the strengths of his campaign -- amoungst the many strengths he displayed -- was his support from the military. If you support ending the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, support ending the genocide and looting that is going on over there, I encourage you to watch for announcements and consider attending.
Don't kid yourself, this election has exposed how corrupt and bankrupt both the Republican party and the whole primary process is, and Dr. Paul's campaign may be over, although he hasn't dropped out yet, but the ideas of freedom and adherance to the constitution are alive and well. Perhaps stronger than they have been in decades.
BTW, Dr. Paul is not a racist, Billy Bob, but I can understand why someone with your limited intelligence might think so: because someone in the mainstream media said so. (Why think for yourself, right?) As evidence of that, he has advocated ending the war on drugs because it unfairly impacts blacks who wind up in jail in disproportionate numbers (Sure sounds like a racist to me.)
He might, however, have a bias against brain-dead idiots which is perhaps why his ideas don't resonate with you.
It is a shame that decent men don't stand a chance in the electoral process -- Kusinich and Gravel being two other examples -- and that America's steady slide toward a corporatist police state will continue unabated. (Anyone see the video of the woman being stripped in a police cell by up to seven police officers, mostly men, after she called police because she was assaulted? Get used to it, that's just a warmup to where we are headed.)
It really makes one wonder.
David @ 71:
Bravo! I'll be marching in Washington.
Go Ron!
L Ron Paul, Hero for the Ages:
“The 1960s crowd, although having a reputation for being anti-war due to their position on Vietnam, has never been bashful about its bold authoritarian use of force to mold economic conditions, welfare, housing, medical care, job discrimination, environment, wages and working conditions, combined with a love for taxes and inflation to pay the bills.”
Yeah, the problem with this country is regulation of corporations, welfare for the poor, fair housing laws (integration), a woman's medical rights, ending employment discrimination, the Clean Air Act (preventing coal companies from their rightful profits), minimum wage, and occupational safety laws (like the ones the coal companies L Ron Paul supports have ignored, resulting in several deaths).
L Ron Paul would stop integration, stop a woman's right to choose, stop integration, stop environmental law, stop labor unions, and turn the country into one gigantic lawsuit.
• He opposes your right to sue for malpractice.
• He opposes your right to be protected from polluters.
• He believes that ALL international treaties should be eliminated, including every warcrimes treaty, the UN charter, and all forms of international law.
Oh, yeah, our hero.
Paul in LA @ 74:
Care to back any of those statements up with a lone shred of evidence, or is just throwing bullshit around enough for you.
BTW, the central war planning economy you so adore, which is basically akin to Soviet Russia with big business acting as the seperate cabinet departments and dictating what your political classes will and will not pass, will do away with all your "protections" as soon as the economy collapses, and "then you'll be wondering what happenned to the Democratic Party, why do they act like Republicans?"
Because you are being played, that's why, and you are too stupid or hubristic to recognize it.
Sure, go ahead, ignore the fact that the Democratic Congress has given Bush everything he asked for and more, including the FISA bill. Then describe to me how much the Democrats have protected you.
Like I say, what passes for reasoned debate is a sad, sad joke today.
And I wouldn't be surprized to see this comment magically vanish. Couldn't allow a real debate to take place.
We can't afford more wars. It doesn't take a genius to know that. Ron Paul shamed the rethuglicans in the debates. He was a positive voice for ending the evil empire, and saving the American democracy. Kudos for making this turd McCain know what it really is.
David @ 75:
He thinks he is too smart to be played like you argue. Thats extremely myopic on his part. He thinks that if the Democrats have just enough people, just enough votes, just the right rhetoric, then the abuses and oversights of the past will be magically swept away. More likely just obscured by more recent abuses, and abuses that they intend to implement.
Ron Paul is the only person worth voting for in 08'. I'm writing him in. I'll vote my conscience before I vote simply for results.
GuyCybershy @ 70:
Indeed he would have. But probably not the way you think.
Ron Paul is a man of principle, he will NEVER endorse or support John McFruitcake.
I am going to follow his example. I'll just write Paul's name on the ballot in come November.
Right on assessment of Ron Paul, if you can handle it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCF_Hh_YFtA
Perpetual war is "not Republican"? Where has Paul been the past, say, a hundred and fifty years?
Ed @ 82:
In the interest of fairness, watched all of the video (there's 28 minutes of my life gone that I'll never get back.) Pundit Bob, or whoever he is, uses the same tactics used here and used by the mainstream media:
Misrepresent what he stands for
Underplay any of the positives that have come out of his candidacy, like the heightened attention of the IRS and its role in manipulating the economy to the detriment of most of us, the unfolding police state in America, the unconstitutional wars and behavior of government by both parties and the drift into globalist systems that will essentially end the American experiment in liberty
Characterize anyone who supports him as misguided, or worse
Describe the outcome as a dismal failure
The reality is, however, that this "movement" which Dr. Paul was essentially a figurehead for, represents a large and growing body of people who are no longer satisfied with the status quo. We'll see if this movement is finished, or if in many ways it is just beginning.
Dennis K's best friend is Ron Paul- you can see why. btw- Paul has raised a lot of money - I see very little of it being spent outside a few lawn signs. They must cost a lot of money.
Dark Knight DC @ 81:
He does come with a ton of baggage- hates blacks- calls MLK day- 'lets get whitey day.' a confedrate at heart. Wants to elimate social security.
deang @ 83:
Again, a totally uneducated comment by an indivudual who doesn't remember that it was Democrats that got the United States into the Korean War and the Vietnam war, and that Republicans, who were traditionally the party of smaller government and non-intervention, were the ones who for all intents and purposes, ended the conflicts.
Today, of course, you cannot really tell the difference between the two parties.
Sadly the MIC still controls
the majority of the airwave's,
so Ron's call's will
be heard by few.
Talcott @ 88:
If only there were some world-wide system, like a web, from which people could obtain information independently from a variety of sources via some sort of readily available device they could keep in their homes.
Willie @ 14:
how true !
Rusty Shackleford @ 89:
Sadly, people would still have to have the ability to think and critically analyze the information they collected, as well as have an interest in honestly assessing the situation and the ability to hear the truth when it is presented to them.
Otherwise it is a great idea.... Snark.
Rusty Shackleford @ 89:
Indeed.
Once the NET is ubiquitous(even for the poor) things will be a bit different.
Talcott @ 92:
Hey, here's a poser: do you think Ron Paul would have funded the Internet? (It was a government initiative, remember.) I don't see anything about it in the Constitution.
He wouldn't shut it down today, like the rest of the political establishment would like to do, or collect and track everything we say and do on the internet, or illegally record all our phone calls as they are currently doing and have done with both establishment Democrat and Republican blessing.
It wouldn't be so bad if your arguments were even thought out one iota, but I understand that eats up a couple of hours per thought for you.
Adam Zettler @ 66:
millions and millions of brainectomys need to be performed stat!
Rusty Shackleford @ 93:
No.
But I do see Google trying to get a hold of the Freq. that could do such a thing.
Personal Iniitative, and Responsibility trump gov... most of the time.
Billy Bob @ 47:
No he's not. I'm a Chicano from Texas. STFU about him being a racist. Fake ass Democrats trying to pin bullshit on a dignified respectable man that deserves to be the President of this country.
hungryman dinners and watching mushroom clouds an afternoon delight!
David @ 76 "Care to back any of those statements up with a lone shred of evidence, or is just throwing bullshit around enough for you."
This quote, which I posted above, is from L Ron Paul in 1999. It quite clearly lays out his disdain and disapproval of the USUAL Libertarian list of liberal accomplishments:
“The 1960s crowd, although having a reputation for being anti-war due to their position on Vietnam, has never been bashful about its bold authoritarian use of force to mold economic conditions, welfare, housing, medical care, job discrimination, environment, wages and working conditions, combined with a love for taxes and inflation to pay the bills.”
Do the math.
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To Senator McCampaign,
I know you enjoy your wars jumbo-sized, but I thought America was supposed to be a Christian Nation with a trifecta of jumbo gods that declared one day...
T H O U
S H A L L
N O T
K I L L!
No jumbo combo allowed with that one.
N E X T!
But seriously, he not only thinks the army can handle the load(without a draft OR taxes), he has no concern about the continual deployment and how it will wear the troops or their families down, or even consider how injuries sustained has effects, LONG TERM! (PTSD, suicide, debilitating injuries and severe head trauma current rise means whats happening ISN'T getting better x John McCampaign's jumbo war of 100 = not so happy customers :(
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Ron Paul is not a racist. Do the research, don't buy the blatant media smears. He didn't even write a single racist thing. He preaches individualism, and does not believe in discriminating against different groups.
Samo Umer @ 13:
weak on terror?? what the hell are you talking about. You've got 3 of the foremost experts on suicide terrorism and middle eastern politics working as his foreign policy advisers. They all back up his positions. Our current interventionist policy is making us more isolated and more targeted than ever before. Get your facts straight bub... stop watching Fox.
David @ 101:
He takes money from racists.
Paul in LA @ 103:
His mistake was mocking them and saying he'd use the money for good.
So, McCain wants perpetual war.
Once he gets it, with what will he pay for it?
With what will the rest of the of the world help?
Fat lady's already singing The End of Empire and
there's standing room only in the theater.
I've seen you debate better than this.
That is a pathetic statement.
He also took money from Christians, hmm he must be Christian.
He also took money from atheists, hmm he must be an atheist.
He probably took in money from politicians, Now I am sure he is damned to hell!
John in Michigan
Paul in LA @ 103:
Ron Paul would have put a stop to police killing people, and making up charges on people. The fake conservatives who say they are christians are reallly demons are now opening up hell. Thank you very much Bush supporters.
Thank you Ron Paul, now can Obama please say this, oh, about 1000 times in public?
Talcott @ 96:
Can't build your own Internet though, can ya?
David @ 94:
I'll take that as a simple "no," with a side of Paulian prattle.
supremecourtjester @ 17:
A bit late with the response, sorry, but great W.C. Fields quote!
Rusty Shackleford @ 109:
The internet full of assumptive ignoramus's.....
The internet was a military creation converted to civil use.
Most people who are againgst Dr.Paul employ sweeping generalization's based on
flawed extrapolation.
Talcott @ 112:
Yep. In other words, developed by the government.
Oh, and it's "ignoramuses", not "ignoramus's." I usually don't point out grammatical errors but the irony in that one was too much to resist.
Rusty Shackleford Says:
Talcott @ 112:
Rusty Shackleford @ 109:
Talcott @ 96:
Rusty Shackleford @ 93:
No.
But I do see Google trying to get a hold of the Freq. that could do such a thing.
Personal Iniitative, and Responsibility trump gov… most of the time.
Can’t build your own Internet though, can ya?
The internet full of assumptive ignoramus’s…..
The internet was a military creation converted to civil use.
Yep. In other words, developed by the government.
Oh, and it’s “ignoramuses”, not “ignoramus’s.” I usually don’t point out grammatical errors but the irony in that one was too much to resist.
Strawman argument and a grammar troll!
Ron Paul is the only patriot left standing, the only one with a real vision and the credentials to back it up.
Too bad partisan politics on the left and the right couldn't see that the man has put his life on the line for all of us.
Arnold Benedict @ 114:
I noticed that you Paulians have stopped brandishing the Ghandi quote ("First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win"). Is it because of that inconvenient last part?
I must disagree with Dr. Paul in regard to the last part of his statement. I think "Insane" McCain's bellicose stance is very Republican, based on watching Republicans for the last 50 years.
Rusty Shackleford @ 115:
No, the quote still applies, only you define winning as taking the White House, whereas Dr. Paul and his supporters -- who will be active long after this election charade is over -- view victory as shining a light on important truths about how this country does or, more accurately perhaps, doesn't operate.
And Ghandi was speaking about expressing the truth as well, which thanks to Dr. Paul, has for the first time in a long, long time, been given a fair hearing in America.
bshock @ 116:
The Democrats got America into Vietnam and Korea, so they aren't any better.
David @ 117:
You're right. My mistake was thinking that "winning", in the context of a presidential campaign, was winning the presidency.
"Damn you all you didn’t vote for Ron Paul.
He wasn’t on the Democratic ticket."
There you go with those partisan politics. How far has that gotten you? How far has that inbred thinking gotten the nation?
You still dont fucking get it.
I cant wait to see the looks on your faces when Obama/Hitlery/McCain continues wars of aggression on pakistan and iran, when the draft 2.0 is implemented, when he appears on the tube after the next 911 and tells us we must not back down from the perpetual faceless "enemy". and to give up what remains of civil liberties and the constitution.
I wrote "Obama/Hitlery/McCain" because theres no fucking difference. They are all in the pockets of the CFR and AIPAC.
You people act all smug and superior, your "left is better than right" flase paradigm. Its a fucking charade. We are marching into the sea, and you folks are following. Youre falling for the same song and dance folks fall for every four fucking years.
"Obama/Hitlery/McCain". Like theres a fucking difference. They are all pro-war. They are all globalists.
"I noticed that you Paulians have stopped brandishing the Ghandi quote (”First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win”). Is it because of that inconvenient last part?"
I like how you folks freely admit that the last elections were stolen, but when Hitlery or Obama wins, itll be fair and square I suppose?
Hitlery is a bilderberger, Obama is CFR. For fucks sake, Obamas economic advisor is skull and bones (known to his pal Bush as "the Ghool"). His foreign policy advisor is Zbigniew Bzrezinski, the man who created Al-CIA-da, for petes sake.
Stop acting like you have some moral high ground. The democrat side of things is just one side of the coin. They are ALL globalists. They are ALL pro-war. They are ALL the same.
You can expect the same agendas to carry on, no matter who gets appointed to the presidency.
You folks championed Pelosi and the democrats when they won back Congress? And what has changed? Jack shit, thats what.
And you people STILL dont get it.
Hank @ 120:
Only St. Ron could have saved us. If only we had not been so foolish as to ignore his gospel. Now we're doomed... DOOMED
Hank @ 121:
When your boy puts that little "R" by his name, and caucuses with his fellow Republicans (with whom he votes the vast majority of the time), is he just being ironic? Since he's a unique and beautiful snowflake and all.
Thing Fish @ 104:
No, his mistake was TAKING MONEY FROM RACISTS (and getting caught).
To you, it's the almighty penny, the Enemy of All People.
To the populace, it's racism.
Gee, I wonder why you don't understand that?
Rusty Shackleford Says:
"Only St. Ron could have saved us. If only we had not been so foolish as to ignore his gospel. Now we’re doomed… DOOMED"
What, no 'PaulTards' comment?
You get what you deserve, a pro-war Clinton....have fun.
Sean @ 125:
Haven't you been following the news? Obama is winning. I know "they're all the same except the unique and magical Ron Paul," but do try to keep up.
Paul in LA @ 124:
Since Paul is too much of a coward to say it openly:
David, Paul thinks you're a racist...
What is wrong with you people??? Don't you know that you can write Ron Paul's name on your ballots in November??? Who are we to allow the media and corporations who will lead our once great nation??? Forget the nomination!!!! IT'S RIGGED in case you have YET to figure that out! I say rigged because anyone in their right mind would vote for Ron Paul IF they'd heard of him! I'm STILL campaigning for Ron Paul and folks have never heard of him!! Voters get their news from television and radio which is owned by huge corporations who want the status quo in charge again; imagine that!
WRITE "RON PAUL" ON YOUR BALLOT IN NOVEMBER!! You still have that right......for now.
C'mon! Get some backbone!
Rusty Shackleford @ 126:
I realize you're baiting me, and you suck at it. Try actually attacking what I say and not the words you put in my mouth.
But you can't...and that drives you crazy.
Sean @ 129:
Uh, I did attack what you said. Obama is beating Hillary. Thus, we probably won't "get what we deserve, a pro-war Clinton."
And I added some derision to that, which is what you deserve. See, you guys are such jokes that you never even made it to "then they fight you."
Rusty Shackleford @ 130:
You guys?
What guys am I? (yes, I know you think you know what 'guy' I am...but try to actually not let your prejudice get the better of you.)
You assume way too much, like Obama beating Clinton....The election is a long way off.
p.s. I can't vote in the election because I'm not an American. But since who becomes President effects the rest of the world I feel it's important to speak out. I've noticed a large number of people on this blog who like to bully others, you among them.
umm... it's EVERYTHING republican. that's why he's the nominee!.
ronpaulftw @ 8:
Wrong. He does not have more spine than "any democrat" running, RPbot.
liberalNmoderation @ 12:
way wayh Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy before... talkin about 5-6 decades ago or more.
Willie @ 14:
Obama.
ronpaulftw @ 44:
You're saying Ron Paul panders to the right wing, with messages he would never let stand for him without first approving them himself?
Hardly.
Last i checked, i couldn't vote for Ron Paul unless i were a Republican (you know, closed primaries and all. Don't want 'em commies subverting our vote).
Face facts.
Save Our Troops @ 48:
Are you an idiot? Do you really believe ron paul didn't see the ad first before approving it? FUckin RPbots get real.
Michael L. McKee @ 65:
Idiot.
David @ 72:
Shut up idiot.
David @ 84:
It's amazing to me how deluded RPbots are.
David @ 87:
Now i just wish you would disappear.
Ron Paul will be publishing a book.
Read it.
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