Mugsy @ 1:

Thought some people might find this interesting this morning:

Zogby 50 State electoral Map

McCain: 160
Obama: 273:
To close to call: 105

Follow-up:

If McCain won every "Too close" state, he'd still loose to Obama.
Among states "Too close to call", McCain's home state of Arizona.

And we haven't had even the first debate yet.

I'd like you to read an open letter I posted this morning both on y blog and on DailyKos. Please read it. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/open-letter-to-markos-moulitsas-zuniga.html

I can never figure out why in the world anyone watches these shows. It's always politicians doing what they do best: lying, or pundits pontificating on subjects that they no next to nothing about. Where's the fun in that?

It's been 2,498 days since George WMD Bush said he'd catch Osama bin Laden Dead or Alive??? ??? ??? "Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.
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*cough* New Pearl Harbor *cough*

This is an article from the UK Guardian.

Looks like most of the world has already decided who they want for US President.
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Europe will welcome Barack Obama as the saviour of democratic virtues, values which too many of our leaders have ignored
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* Constanze Stelzenmüller
* The Observer,
* Sunday July 20, 2008
* Article history

President Obama is finally coming to Europe! All right, the Americans haven't elected him ... yet. But that's a mere technicality as far as we're concerned. We made up our minds long ago: our President is Barack Obama.

This week, Senator Obama will be giving a speech in Berlin, the headquarters of his biggest fan-base on the old continent. The Germans are rooting for America's Democratic nominee with a fervour they otherwise reserve for the Dalai Lama or Nelson Mandela, bringing a distinctly wistful glint to the eyes of German politicians. Take Germany's foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, a laconic Westphalian not known for flights of emotional exuberance. Even he, speaking at Harvard, could not resist bursting into an impassioned cry of: 'Yes, we can!

♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 10:
thta means the american media will work even harder to destroy the democratic candidate. then they will punish the american people for voting for a democrat. and of course, the will punish the democrat for being elected.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 11:

CBS’ “Face the Nation” - Sen. Barack Obama;

I wonder how much BS will be slung at Obama.

Plenty ... I and some Brits were sitting having a few brews earlier this evening and the question arose that why in the face of all his gaffs is McCain still given a pass on anything substantial.
Is it because he was captured in another wrong war and tortured?
(even though he now seems to embrace the idea of torture)
Has Cindi's money corrupted him or is that just some natural kind of Washingtonian evolution.

Debbie Schlussel is one stoopid RW bovine, and her blog supporters are dense and worse beyond belief.

The Anschlussel: Where Stupid Meets Evil

Mugsy @ 13:

Fox is about to do a story accusing (maybe) the other networks of "political bias". :)

not as 'fair and balanced' as Faux, no doubt to the great minds, gotta laugh

Listening to Wallace lead Adm Mullen is almost obscene:

Wallace keeps asking Mullen to comment on "if he were told to start pulling out troops now... regardless of conditions on the ground".

Of course, Obama has never said this, but that's apparently irrelevant.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 16:

Debbie Schlussel is one stoopid RW bovine, and her blog supporters are dense and worse beyond belief.

The Anschlussel: Where Stupid Meets Evil

HAHA !!! they slammed the "musical" Mama-Mia as a Homo movie.
Bigotry and stupidity are alive and well.

♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 22:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 16:

Debbie Schlussel is one stoopid RW bovine, and her blog supporters are dense and worse beyond belief.

The Anschlussel: Where Stupid Meets Evil

HAHA !!! they slammed the "musical" Mama-Mia as a Homo movie.
Bigotry and stupidity are alive and well.

Some thing are timeless and immortal, Republican stupidity and corruption (physically and morally) being one of them.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 23:

Anybody considering buying some ASF Rats (Nataal), get two males OR two females, and as young as possible.
these things are used as feeder rats in the reptile trade and have an exponential potential.
Quite cute and smell free, but not very tame and good jumpers, small rats which are gerbilish.
Ours are not biters, but they have a reputation for biting if not handled daily to tame them.

I hope you also have some snakes. Otherwise ??????

Lieberman on FnS: "If we had listened to Senator Obama... al Qaeda would be in control of large swaths of Iraq."

Mugsy @ 28:

Lieberman on FnS: "If we had listened to Senator Obama... al Qaeda would be in control of large swaths of Iraq."

Did he really mean to say

'If we had listened to Chimpy, then AlQ would be in conrtrol of large parts of Pakistan and Afghanistan...'

Hume says "the Media" is treating Obama "like some sort of savior" of the U.S..

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Victory Over SCLM, DIEBOLD, ESS and SEQUOIA! @ 11:

CBS’ “Face the Nation” - Sen. Barack Obama;

I wonder how much BS will be slung at Obama.

You are right. Relevant questions should be asked of Obama such as how he believes leaving close to 100,000 troops in Iraq after his phased [not immediate] withdrawal plan is finally complete is supposed to somehow win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. Will he be asked how removing those troops over a 16 month period is somehow supporting those troops, as the longer they are forced to remain in that slaughterhouse, the greater the chance that more of them will be returning to this country paralyzed from the neck down, horribly disfigured, blinded, missing an arm and/or a leg, and suffering from the effects of PTSD. He should be asked how shifting 10,000 troops to Afghanistan is supposed to somehow placate the [justifiable] fears of the Afghanis that more American soldiers means that more American bombs will be obliterating Afghan villages and homes. Obama should be asked why an Iraqi should not have to die fighting for his country but that it is somehow acceptable that an Afghani can be torn asunder by American bombs and bullets. Or is it considered unpatriotic to dare ask these questions of the [alleged] agent of hope and change?

Here is where the Money comes from for the two candidates:

Obama
Individual contributions $286,382,376 100%
PAC contributions $-650 -0%
Candidate self-financing $0 0%
Federal Funds $0 0%
Other $1,016,219 0%

McSame
Individual contributions $104,783,672 88%
PAC contributions $1,143,214 1%
Candidate self-financing $0 0%
Federal Funds $0 0%
Other $13,667,709 11%

Numbers courtesy of Open Secrets.

Hume: "Remember what Horizon means: as far as the eye can see. That's not much change."

34 Erroll Says: i canot understand why people are so sold on obama , or why they want to vote for more war and criminals in our government, as sequoia says obamas declareing hes going to pull out american troops from iran in 16 months is just more bullshit, hes said thier will still be 100,000 troops left in iraq, thoes bases we built will still be there ,still be protected by american troops , the embassy we built will still be opperated by us and guarded by american troops, the iraqys will continuie to fight our occupation its thier country not ours, obama says hes going to send more american brigades to afganistan ! whats the sence in widening that war except to keep the military corporations in buisness makeing war profits obama is a bought and paid for politician , of course mccains no better both are warwhores, the tourtureing will go on with either one of these sellouts, obamas going to be just another crappy extension of bush ,

Hey Bill Hume-rless, Im glad I can see the 'horizon' of when you leave. you basset hound faced dolt, just leave already. your opinion isnt relevant.

26 ♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ Says: ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 23:

Anybody considering buying some ASF Rats (Nataal), get two males OR two females, and as young as possible.
these things are used as feeder rats in the reptile trade and have an exponential potential.
Quite cute and smell free, but not very tame and good jumpers, small rats which are gerbilish.
Ours are not biters, but they have a reputation for biting if not handled daily to tame them.

I hope you also have some snakes. Otherwise ??????

RepugliCON food. Sorry same thing.

Troops in Iraq, troops in Afganistan, troops in Pakistan.

So much for the peace dividend!

Admiral Mullen on FOX Sunday -

Wallace - "Will this time horizon have a date, even if it's just a goal, for when US combat troops will be out and the Iraqi military would have control of their own security?"

Mullen - "This right now doesn't speak to timelines or timetables, based on my understanding of where we are."

Wallace - "So what would the horizon set?"

Mullen - "Well, I think it sends a signal that there is one. That eventually we do want to bring our troops back, and that, uh, with where we are, conditions are improving in Iraq certainly when I was there week before last, that was indicative, and if those conditions continue to improve, we would be in a position to start to bring our troops home."

So, a time horizon is not a timetable or timeline, and what it really means is that someday we will start to bring our guys home?

And this is a change from previous policy how?

And as for the conditions, are they really improving?

I understand that we have had fewer of our soldiers being killed each month in Iraq, even though this is probably no consolation to the families of the 28 or so Iraqi military recruits that were killed last week, but they're not Americans, so they don't count, right? (And for the record, I wish the media would stop calling them "troops", it depersonalizes them. A troop member is just one of the faceless masses, but a soldier, we know a soldier is a person, with a family, and is flesh and blood.)

Do fewer battle casualties really equal improvement? I thought the surge was to give them room for political reconciliation, not just reduce our casualty numbers to an "acceptable" level. Not only have they not progressed politically, but any tentative changes that were made have either been rolled back, or have died due to inertia. Just last week, they failed to lay the groundwork for the next round of elections, as they were scheduled to do. This is NOT progress.

I also fear that the plane that picks our soldiers up in Iraq will not be bringing them home, but will be ferrying them into Afghanistan

This is what masquerades as progress in Bush world.

thanks for sharing that animated film. loved it!

The animated film was really great.

The talking head programs are become more and more of the same, infuriating non answers from both sides. (well, one side gets to expound on their untruths and half truths, while the other is barely given time to get out a complete sentence.)
Although, I know I will watch again, I gotta take a break from this right now. I may tune in to see Gore, just to see if the questions will be relevant to anything, or just an attempt to play gotcha, so that he is marginalized for the duration of the election cycle.

I have not watched any of the Sunday morning talkfest for months now but tuned into MTP for Al Gore this morning. This man is just so impressive and it makes me sad that he didn't jump in and run for President this time around. We could have avoided that nasty and ridiculous primary and had a very good nominee a lot earlier. With Gore we would have had a cohesive party and been looking toward a landslide in Nov. with a President that would know what the hell he is doing.

Tom Brokaw was not at all impressive and when Gore left and the two buffoons, David Gregory and NBC's new talking head boy-toy (can't remember his name) showed up it was time to leave.

McCain spending.
Have a nice weekend folks.

NB.........thanks for sharing "yellow sticky notes"

when you can't get the "right" answers polling the public, ask yer fellow pundits "Meter Questions" and then sit back and relax.

i went to look at who was included in the dirty dozen, every one a dues-paying member of the always-wrong club.