FOXNews Flips Heckler Story, Says Obama SKIPPED Pledge Of Allegiance
By Logan Murphy Tuesday Aug 05, 2008 6:30pm
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Some idiot got access to press credentials and got into an Obama campaign rally yesterday in Berea, Ohio and began heckling the candidate, demanding he say the pledge of allegiance. Obama handled it perfectly by quieting the crowd and calling the guy's bluff by leading the crowd in reciting the pledge.
A man sneaks into the press area at a presidential campaign event, interrupts him with heckling and attempts to make him look unpatriotic, and how does FOXNews frame the story? Obama SKIPPED the pledge of allegiance! He hates America, don't you know.
Since when is the pledge of allegiance required to be recited before all campaign events?
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He didn't say he opposes Yanni. He must therefore be a wussy Yanni fan.
I am so sick of America & American media...
He didn't offer to pledge allegiance a second time. And he didn't sing the National Anthem. He is unpatriotic.
Fuck! We didn't say the Pledge at work today, either.
Didn't he invite the guy up on stage to lead the pledge? Ask the big, burly secret service guys to escort the fella to the satage, hand him a mic, put a flood on him and give him his moment...
Did McCain say the pledge in Sturgis?
Pledge of Allegiance draws controversy in public schools... Check out all the crazy headlines like this at DententionSlip.org.
FoxNews isn't even trying to pretend to be neutral anymore.
Hey Kilmeade,
Go suck down some more andro & creatine cocktails and go pump yourself, ok? Maybe bench-press some truth while you are at it.
kr in wis @ 6:
I bet he did. In a thong.
Scott @ 4:
Communist! J'accuse!
I expect that John McCain will be held to the same standard, and start each and evey campaign stop, and before each every speech, to say the pledge, and if he misses out, that Fox News will be the first to report it. I also hope that there is a heckler there to remind John.
First, Fox News is run by angry and spoiled 13 year olds.
Second, did that heckler have a name tag that said Sean or Bill?
Bravo out.
Since they dropped that video question during the abc debate..."do you believe in the flag?"
Oh that was such bullshit. But I swear that people I talk to everyday think he hates America!
wow, Fox just gets dumber and dumber.
Andy K Jong Il @ 10:
lol
Nikola @ 9:
Didn't he offer up the topless Missus to lead the pledge?
Andy K Jong Il @ 16:
Tandem!
Have they found out who John Q. Public is yet?
Also is the secret service investigating this?
Sort of shows the difference between the two campaigns, Barack allows a heckler in his press section, McCain has security take care of the black reporter.
Nikola @ 2:
Propaganda.
I can't watch the video (I'm at work).
But this piece was on Abrams last night. Obama CLEARLY called the guy out and asked him if he wanted to lead the pledge. Then everybody stood up and said it.
You mean Fox News CUT OUT the entire second-half of it, and didn't even show Obama leading the pledge?
Not surprising for Fox if that's true. I was flipping through F&F this morning, and they dismissed Suskind's book about the forged letter linking Saddam and Al Qeada by saying:
1) FuckFace never linked Saddam and Al Qeada.
and..
2) "That wasn't the premise for going to Iraq in the first place."
Yes. One of the closet homosexuals that hosts that show actually said that. With a straight face. On Fox News.
Surprised?
Nikola @ 2:
Fox and friends is not "American Media" it's propoganda!!!
By the way Kilmeade pointed out that the guy may not have been media but he had a long telephoto lens!!!!
Ron @ 19:
Damn....you beat me to it!
I've not been to any townhall meetings. Are they even supposed to start with a Pledge?
This would seem to beg the question of why a pledge of allegiance should be given as almost a litmus test for someone running for president. One can also ask why a pledge of allegiance to one's country should even be given in the schools and anywhere else in what purports to be a democratic country. One would think that swearing fealty to a country is something that takes place in fascist and/or totalitarian countries instead of what is supposed to be the [alleged] greatest country in the world as well as the land of the free.
"He hates America, don’t you know."
Don't we all? First the lapel pin, now this rubbish. F off faux!
Take your pledge and stick it up your.......
Nikola @ 15:
Ya know, it's an ironic thing...A people given the right to free speech forced to show their loyalty to the State...It reeks of Stalin as much as of Hitler.
And you're sick of the American media? I'm getting pretty sick of many of my fellow Americans.
Well maybe tonight on Olbermann he will look into how many times McDipshit has said the pledge before his "Town Jerk offs". I will bet that Keith will not find one time that McHypocrit has said the Pledge before any event he has held. I didn't notice him saying it in the cheese isle or in the sausage restaurant.
ladies and gentlemen, I have a very bad feeling about this election. I have a feeling that John McCain might win. Please please please someone prove me wrong. :(
So, here's my idea. Yes, it's crazy. F'n crazy. But here goes: Obama should go on the FOX Sunday Morning show EVERY Sunday until election day. Yes, EVERY Sunday. Why? Because all FOX does now is pull sound bites and re-edit stories to fit their purpose. If he's on their show LIVE for say, an hour, once a week, taking tough questions, there's no chance of changing what he says. The people watching will see him for what he is, not what FOX wants to make him.
Yes, I know, call me crazy, but an election win for the dems is in no way guaranteed. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer (or something like that, fool me once, blah blah) :)
Fox Noise should be sued over crap like this. Forget the boycotting that nobody participates in, writing letters and holding demonstrations, taking a few hits to the wallet is the only way to get their attention.
Are these fake press creds he had? Than why isnt he in jail? To get that close to a nominee under false pretense and stay out of jail, hmmmmmmmmmm, me thiunks that something is starting to stink here. Who is this guy and where did he get the press cred, are they real or fake, was he withbody there who told him what to say and when; somehow, somehow I smell a Roger Ailes/Karl Rove plant here.
Andy K Jong Il @ 16:
The trollop was busy caking on the make-up. F*cking c*nt!
Scott @ 4:
Well, I'm terribly disappointed in you. In our family we say the pledge within five minutes of waking up at 5:30 AM and right before be bow to the framed photo of George Bush on our wall above out TV which is blaring Morning Blow.
Just back home from work and my grammer and spelling suck, long day.
I was listening to Faux radio on Sirius on the way home for a few minutes and the fake outrage from the reich-wingers hit a new low. They were all enraged that Mr. Obama skipped the pledge. Bunch of fucking neanderthals.
Andy K Jong Il @ 26:
Gotta love faux democracy... Now that's a quagmire, screw Iraq.
Obama hates America? I'd say he has plenty of company.
meritocracy @ 28:
I've had a bad feeling for a while now... Aren't they supposed to be tied by some polls now? Personally I'd be worried if Obama had a 10 point lead the day before the election.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 33:
Traitor! Where's your stirring rendition of God Bless America everyday at noon?
The Truth Hurts @ 39:
With Nixon masks?
meritocracy @ 28:
Obama 284 McGramps 157
Obama 289 McCain 236
Kerry didn't have these type of numbers this time 4 years ago. McGramps is playing catch-up, just like Kerry had to. Once the debates start and Obama makes McGrampa look old and feeble, these leads for Obama will grow
meritocracy @ 28:
I thought '04 would be a landslide victory for the Dems, but i was wrong. I think Obama is going to win big time this time but i can be wrong. Never underestimate the power of stupid, sadly.
But i'll stay positive. :)
Nikola @ 9:
I believe he did....right before he promised to have ol' Cindy flash her saggy tits.
You know what? The regular shows on Faux News is much better comedy than the attempt at a comedy show they did a while back. It is acually pretty funny. I especially like it when O'Reilly is railing against some porn/sex thing (usually with young underage girls) that offends him but he shows it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. I don't watch Faux/O'Reilly that often but that kind of segment always seems to come up when I turn it on. Must be pure luck.
Lefty @ 30:
Well what Fox did is devious, dishonest, immoral, etc but nobody can sue about it except possibly Obama. And given the very strong limits on libel when it concerns a public figure, even Obama couldn't win a lawsuit. You (the public) can't sue when they report something that's false
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 44:
Pure luck of catching something that's on only 90% of the time:P
If only Fox News had everyone recite the pledge of allegiance at the start of every show, run the American flag up a pole, sing the star spangled banner, and pledge on a Bible a couple times that they won't get caught molesting children or cheating on their wives or whatever it is that matters to those people... it would at least cut down on the rest of the bullshit that they spew.
richard @ 45:
All you can do is not watch/listen/read.
Dr. Matt Hussein @ 35:
I feel your pain. I sometimes listen to that channel in the evening when John Gibson is on. "Bunch of fucking Neanderthals" gives them too much credit.
The super patriot,another chicken hawk, had a cousin who served in Viet Nam. So he says.
bayonet @ 42:
The man's complaint was that it was a townhall event and he says that townhalls are supposed to start with the pledge. Can anyone confirm if this is true? I've not seen an answer on it.
Does Fox start their broadcasts with the Pledge of Allegiance? They don't? Those traitorous hippy pnko left-wing bastards make me sick.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 49:
Good call, Neanderthals were able to control fire and hunt animals using rudimentary tools.
Dr. Matt Hussein @ 35:
Quit insulting Neanderthals. Prior to about 50,000 years ago, Neanderthals were as advanced as it got. They invented religion and to a small degree, trade. They also survived in their fully modern form for far longer than we have yet managed in ours.
The GOP is much more Oreopithecus than H. Neanderthalensis. In terms of human evolution, they're Homo erectus.
General_Rennenkampf @ 55:
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. My bad. I won't make the same mistake twice.
Ok, I'm out...I'm going to shoot some paper targets.....like a good leftist. :)
Dr. Britney Hussein Matt @ 54:
They also invented religion and the first attempts at trade, plus they survived much more catastrophic changes in climate over a vast period of time than the worst global warming scenario we H. sapiens face today envisions. Even water 100 miles deep inland doesn't quite reach the level of utter disaster of the swinging climate of Neanderthal times, and they were adapted to several different environments as well. The GOP represents either Erectus, who never even adapted, or Paranthropus, which never even thought about adapting.
The Truth Hurts @ 39:
I went to a Tigers game in June. I took my hat off and placed it over my heart for the National Anthem. Conditioning, I suppose. And it's not like it bothers me.
But during the seventh inning stretch, the PA announcer asked everyone to remove their hats for God Bless America. Hat stayed on. Sorry, MLB, you're pushing it way too far.
General_Rennenkampf @ 55:
Blasphemy!!! Everyone knows the Earth is only 6000 years old.
Dr. Britney Hussein Matt @ 56:
Nah, Tis OK, I just dislike when people assume "extinct" somehow implies less-advanced. Humans today have yet to deal with one issue of the severity faced by Neanderthalensis.
And if the GOP had existed in the Stone Age, we'd still be African hunter-gatherers, and Neanderthals might well have driven us extinct after their aborted Chatelperronian Revolution (which we interrupted in reality).
on behalf of Ohio...where I am currently transplanted- I have been to 4 different Obama Events here- and I have never seen him heckled...ever...and usually there are huge line and waiting time is hours to see him ( and people wait- does not matter if it is 10 degrees or 90...) and People wait-patiently and in good spirits...and yes, at two of the events the Pledge was said before he got there...( I have no idea what goes on in other states)
Now....
McCain is having trouble filling venues here and in Ohio...we are talking NO lines..or INVITE only events..and ie....Halls that hold 600-1000- lucky if he gets 400....I have Seen NO signs or stickers for McCoot- NOT ONE...
So there you go an apology on behalf of Ohio...and so truth what is going on here
General_Rennenkampf @ 57:
You need to link that if you want me to believe it, General. And no links to the Church of the SubGenius- unless you're just looking for laughs.
Makes me think about when i got to a Catholic school and had to pray every morning. I still hate mandatory BS like that. Funny thing was that almost everyone in my class ignored it, and didn't gave a flying F. (it was the closest school around and there were many atheists there) :D
General_Rennenkampf @ 57:
Is inventing religion a good thing now?
casper46 @ 59:
LOL, I wonder why Creationist retain Bishop Usher's date anyhow. They really should, if they want to make believe that Genesis literally happened, use the Jewish date for Creation that is some 1,000 years further back in the past than ol' Ussher.
Ah, the Creationists are just the Inquisitors defanged...and what's hilarious is they consider themselves Galileo.
What actually happened, in case anyone wants to see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erXOh45mKVU
Oh this one is good too... someone right next to the heckler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=031VHnUD0aw
Andy K Jong Il @ 10:
Hey, that's french! That means you're a communist as well ...or something... doesn't it...?
It is now. Along with flag lapel pins and spitting between your fingers. That's the problem with playing into the absurd right-wing framing. If Obama can win, it will be due to voters overwhelming the influence of corporate media, which is solidly for the Republicans.
Loonie @ 68:
Socialist, at least.
http://www.pbs.org/now/commentary/moyers19.html (entire commentary at this link)
Bill Moyers said it best (February 28th, 2003):
"I wore my flag tonight. First time. Until now I haven't thought it necessary to display a little metallic icon of patriotism for everyone to see. It was enough to vote, pay my taxes, perform my civic duties, speak my mind, and do my best to raise our kids to be good Americans. . . . .
So what's this doing here? Well, I put it on to take it back. The flag's been hijacked and turned into a logo — the trademark of a monopoly on patriotism. On those Sunday morning talk shows, official chests appear adorned with the flag as if it is the good housekeeping seal of approval. During the State of the Union, did you notice Bush and Cheney wearing the flag? How come? No administration's patriotism is ever in doubt, only its policies. And the flag bestows no immunity from error. When I see flags sprouting on official lapels, I think of the time in China when I saw Mao's little red book on every official's desk, omnipresent and unread.
But more galling than anything are all those moralistic ideologues in Washington sporting the flag in their lapels while writing books and running Web sites and publishing magazines attacking dissenters as un-American . . . "
Nikola @ 64:
Perhaps it's part of the reason they went extinct.
Andy K Jong Il @ 62:
This has some information on it,
and frankly, I'm one of those that considers the rigid boundary between H. sapiens and the other hominins to be anthropocentric more than in reality. Much of the evidence comes from cannibalism, funnily enough, which like much early religion had as much of a practical survival aim as a regular religious aim. Religion in the sense it's defined as today did not come into existence prior to the emergence of Buddhism in the East and Christianity and then Islam in the West, but that by no means means that previous peoples didn't have different concepts of it. Looking for the modern definition of religion shaped according to the specific societal needs of today doesn't even work 2,000 years ago, much less over 150,000 years ago.
Loonie @ 68:
C'est craqué.
Ma grand-mère est Quebecoise.
So of course, McCain must now lead a Pledge of Allegiance before every single public event he attends.
And if he doesn't...
HE HATES AMERICA!!!!!
One Nation Under FRAUD.
my read when i watched this yesterday....was obama was
pleased somebody caught it . he handled like a pro. things happen.....here's the dilemma for fox.....is that mccain's gaffe/mistakes are so obvious...listen to him speak at sturgis even was a bumbling challenge.
Did you know that FOX 'News' skips the Pledge of Allegiance EVERY night before they start their 'news' program?!?!? Some one should do something about those unpatriotic America haters!
JimboSlice @ 18:
Yes we do. He's a well know photojournalist that freelances in North East Ohio. He probably walked over from Browns training camp which is next door and went in. He also covered Bush when he was at Browns training camp in '04. He's also photographed Kerry. I don't think it's appropriate to give his name at this time, but we did mention it in a Daily Kos diary after I recognized him.
Andy K Jong Il @ 26:
Not quite. Russians never had any even pretense of free speech. The Weimar Republic was the only experience the Germans had before the Nazis turned an already bad regime (bad defined as oppressive) into a dystopian nightmare. Stalin also wouldn't have bothered forcing people, he would have simply killed until the Pledge was mandatory, mass graves the hallmark of his rule.
Bush and Company couldn't match Stalin or Hitler if they wanted to.
You know that stuff they told us when we in elementary school about anybody being able to become president? It just occurred to me that, well, its not true. I don't recite a small portion (two freaking words) of the pledge and that would show up in a sound bite (or a non-sound bite as it were. I'd be toast. So lets start telling out young, "Anyone can be president, IF you believe in God, have picked the right pastor, (ad plenty here) and have a Karl Rove in your pocket".
Well, they had this whole operation planned in advance, and their story already written. When Obama threw a wrench in it, they decided to act as though he has cooperated in their scheme, and went ahead with the story anyway. After all, they had a fee to collect, and they still had to pay off the photographer for his role.
Interesting. Can we see the footage of the pledges of allegiance that were recited at all of John McCain's campaign stops?
Move on people, nothing to see here. @ 80:
No...if anyone wants to be president, they must be a multimillionaire or have cert