BREAKING: Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize
By bluegal Friday Oct 09, 2009 6:39am
President Barack Obama made history again Friday, winning the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for his "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples
The Norwegian Nobel Committee recognized Obama's efforts to solve complex global problems, including working toward a world free of nuclear weapons.
President Obama is the first sitting President since Woodrow Wilson to be awarded this honor. (Videos from CSpanJunkie)
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Of course, the right wing is saying it's because he's not George Bush, without acknowledging the shame our country still wears from Bush being the "Anti-Peace and No Prize" President:
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Nope. Curtilingus took the prize back on the round up thread.
Indeed .......
Though this is a sick joke, and debases Nobel for people who have actually done something opposed to just tow the usual cooperate line.
Nothing has changed and wont while the current system is in place.
Now end the wars so you actually deserve the damn thing.
Sheezzzzzzsh…
"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength."
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That's funny neither is evet.
I once knew a boy named Sasha.
Alex is unisex... Alice, not so much me thinks ;-)
http://nightswithalicecooper.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Cooper
Oh thanks tyler I didn't know that. Makes since cause he was from Switzerland.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4259...
... yes it does. Us much schooled folk are funny that way.
I always thought he should drop the Alice Cooper moniker at least once, and cut an album as VD Furnier.
Family values Cooper style
Wife:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG_9G-Bkoo8&fe...
Daughter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_VPaMFQ5mY&fe...
Waz da matter! What up!
http://www.tubechop.com/watch/29805
People in North Adams at the coffee shop, people at the health care forum I attended today with Rep. John Olver, people at the doctor's office today and two others at the check out in Rite Aid all had exactly the same response to this:
"For WHAT??!!"
..............restore habeus corpus, close the prison camps, restore the FCC, EPA, so-called 'Justice' dept., grow a spine, and jetison Rahmie.
I wonder if we will actually hear Rush Limbaugh's head explode on the air today?
over at Fox News will be a wonderful sound....
like pop corn.
Can be heard in a vacuum.
to be a judge at the Miss America competition...
even though the girls will likely be a bit too feminine for him, given his taste for teen-age Dominican beach-boys...
considering Obama is continuing the PNAC-Bush Family tradition in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran.
Those who claim he won because only looks like he's not-bush are exactly right...
I'm just pointing out the obvious. Glad you share my viewpoint it get's lonely out here.
*And Pakistan
For perhaps the first time in my life, I agree with some of the right wingers. Obama won this because he wasn't George Bush. He wasn't a warmongering, egomaniacal fool who thought the only resolution to any problem was bullying. I personally can't see that Obama has earned this award yet. He has made a few gestures in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict that will hopefully defuse the situation--namely, opposing new settlements. He is ratcheting down Iraq. Other than that, he just isn't Bush (thank God).
An award for hope? That is sort of how he got elected. I must admit I would like to see some concrete accomplishments now.
would be something wouldn't it?
to reduce nuclear stockpiles in negotiation with other nuclear powers.(Which, in case anybody bothered to listen is why the prize was awarded to him). And also his defusing of Eastern European tensions with the elimination of that asinine non-functional missile defense system.
Greenspan? Or did Ken Lay get an honorary?
Fake-a-posthumous.
Now it's just getting ridiculous. We still have two wars going on that he hasn't stopped yet. Duh!
Congrats to Barry.
The connection to Wilson is a bit...um...disconcerting.
on Beck. OLIGahhhhhh!
Off topic but still important:
Good news: We blew up the moon this morning
Bad News: The cameras didn't work.
again. Oooh look a cloud of dust coming off the moon. See any water?
liberals pissing on Obama's parade like they always do.
Obama's name had to be submitted by the deadline; which was two frickin weeks into his preidency. C'mon!
Maybe Obama will eventually deserve a Nobel Prize, but he didn't deserve this one.
on by saying "Even progressives say he did not deserve it."
Hell, even he knows he did not deserve it.
But he doesn't need to be blamed or put down because he got it, either.
What does all this have to do with blowing up the moon?
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you touch on exactly the point I was about to make. You'd think Obama nominated himself for the damn thing before he was even elected judging by the comments on this thread.
the nomination could have come from past laureates.
If that's the case then Obama was probably nominated by Mendela, Desmond Tutu, Carter or Gore... or all four of them in his corner.
as part of the prize.
I certainly hope he does something righteous with the cash...
Here's a suggestion: Give it to any number of civilians we have maimed with any drones in Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan.
I made a negative crack about us wasting precious tax dollars on this bullshit (bombing the moon), and "blueballs" called me a:
CONCERN TROLL.....
Pfffftttt!!!!
I'm glad he got it. I'm proud for America and the presidency.
However I got to say, without having ever followed Nobel Peace Prize awards before, there's got to be some politicization here, no?
I mean, perhaps the judges were impressed with how he's thinking about whether to escalate the war in Afghanistan or not? Maybe it was his justice dept's defense of the anti-gay Defense of Marriage Act? Oh wait I know, they loved his defense of Bush era unconstitutional abuses of civil liberties as well has his refusal to investigate or prosecute war crimes that he is legal bound to!
On the other hand the wailing and gnashing of teeth this will cause on the right makes it more than worth it.
... regardless as whether you spin it as trolling or interfering or just plain idolatry, it goes a long way towards bringing the USian rightwing protofascists to their apogee over the shark pen.
If that's what it takes, fine. I also acknowledge his approach towards diplomacy, while just words, are far different words that BushCo's, and are already having an effect.
Now, domestically, he's as bad as Cheney. Which I believe was a major reason why he was allowed to be president by the kleptocrats that run this country. But that's not the purview of the Nobel Committee.
For once I don't think it's not a veryu hollow point. Perhaps it is because he's not George W. Bush. But instead of following it up and conclude that it is indeed very telling so say in what ammount GWB sucked, he just moves on...
Maybe it was also a big "THANK YOU!!!!!" to the U.S. for not electing PALIN/mccain?
And at least the right wing cannot use an eventual miss of the Nobel Peace Prize in the same way they did as in the Olympic Chicago farce....
It was a scandanavian shout of thanks to America for the 22nd Amendment.
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I think it is GREAT, compared to the bumbling BUFFOON that we kicked out of office. I do wonder if it is a little premature and also ask is this the World saying Thank you indirectly.
He has re-established us as a World Leader, he has shown compassion, and concern. Compared to the Hate Mongers we kicked out and the few MORONS still in office, this Award is Great. WOW! we as Americans can walk with our heads held high, admit our mistakes, lack our lumps and still respect one another.
we would have actually kicked that baffoon out of office. sadly, he got his 2nd term and was out on limits.
It's tough to grasp how he surpasses others who have far more qualifications for the prize. Cordoba has acheived great successes in Colombia, and Muhammad in Jordan. Muhammad has had actual results with his working to bridge interfaith differences. I'm somewhat curious what really was the driving factor towards this decision.
n/t
Those that sit on the board that makes the decisions really gain no credence for this decision. Will Obama give any of them a cabinet post? No. I don't see how they can gain politically from this.
By the way, for someone that is not savvy to internet shorthand, please let me know what n/t means.
and has no text. No thoughts some times. No tacos at others.
Sometimes he says all he had to say in his head and shares it with us anyway. I'm like that as well.
Heads exploding at clusterFox noise.
let's see, 70% americans support the pres. the world supports the pres, crooks and liars supports the pres. only the smegma of the rightwing hates him. i cant wait to see the blood squirt out of the rightwing noise machine eyes today.....
how about the positive message it sends to the world? oh, no we must not have that....
It may be true that some of the producers of this website "support Obama", but from what I have read there are also those here who do NOT support everything he is doing.
Certainly there is a healthy percentage of those who frequent this website who, as of this moment, do NOT support any potential "surge" in Afghanistan (McCrystal is asking for 40,000 more troops), do NOT support the current health insurance reform legislation that is being floated, do NOT support his handling of the Bush/Cheney war crimes/torture, do NOT support his handling of Wall Street crimes (still no new regulations) etc.
I supported Obama, gave $$ to his campaign and voted for him. I've been a Democrat my entire voting life.
But I will never "go along to get along" with ANY political party or individual with whom I profoundly disagree.
a "thank god you didn't elect another Republican President" award.
In that regard - well deserved.
With 2 wars (3 including Pakistan)?? Indefinite detentions and renditions still happening? Come on people! If people in this thread can't call bullshit on this, you're acting just like the Bushies. I voted for the guy, but this is ridiculous.
Calm down. Have a donut.
and a cup of coffee - DECAF.
Thanks to you both for making my point. Relax. Don't be critical. Just because we're not really leaving Iraq or Afghanistan shouldn't mean he doesn't deserve this.
He's still renditioning detainees, and is considering a program that would mean shoot-to-kill orders in any capture situation.
He's still dropping bombs on innocent villagers in Central Asia...
Likely the reason he got it this year is because there's no way in hell anybody'll take him seriously when he's got a couple of years of mandatory, corpoRatImperialism under his belt...
If there was ever a time when the "Nobel Peace Prize" award has NO VALUE, it is now. Obama is more about war than peace.
I wonder what kind of drugs this Nobel Committee was on when they voted in favor of Obama for this "award."
I can think of many people who DESERVE this award way ahead of American politicians for EMPIRE do.
U.S. Politicians who support American Imperialism, Empire and the lawlessness of human rights do not deserve this award, and Mr. Obama is part and parcel of U.S. Imperial aims and goals. Obama DOES NOT DESERVE this award whatsover. I am not Rush or Hannity saying this either. There are many, many individuals who have been fighting for the cause their entire lives who SHOULD have RECEIVED this Nobel Peace Prize way ahead of President Obama.
This afternoon Obama will be laying out more strategy to BOMB People and yes, innocent people have already dies THANKS to President Obama. Innocent People will continue to DIE on the ORDERS of Obama.
Obama has KEPT the Bush era policies of preemption and has continually THREATENED IRAN with the possible use of nukes on them. The Obama administration continues to construct bunker buster nuclear weapons. One of Mr. Obama's biggest campaign contributors was Exelon--a nuclear industry which pollutes the environment here in the United States. I suggest you all read David Swanson's new book Daybreak and understand that Obama has not rescinded Bush's so-called "antiterror policies."
Kathy Kelly is the Chicago native who most deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
Yes, the Chicagoan who really DESERVED this AWARD is Kathy Kelly. Kathy Kelly's entire life is devoted to peace and she actually goes to war torn countries and literally helps out the people in those countries.
The Nobel Committee must have been hallucinating giving Obama this award. Obama sells more nuclear weapons to India and let's Israel do whatever it wants to the Palestinians. Obama bombs innocents in Pakistan and Afghanistan and takes out entire families. Obama's speech in Cairo was not as well received around the world, including the Middle East region, despite what commentators in America might suggest. Noam Chomsky has been very critical of Mr. Obama's Middle East policy.
Anyone who advocates peace and justice cannot accept that the war mongering President Obama led by his team of war-like advisers, including Hillary Clinton, Dennis Ross and Richard Holbrooke could ever win this thing.
Is there a Nobel War Prize? Maybe they got them mixed up.
had ended the Iraq and Afghanistan game . . withdrew the troops and brought them home, and made allies out of former enemies.
issued by the Europeans to prompt Obama to pull the troops out of those countries.
I see this as a "Don't fuck this up" from the Europeans more than anything else.
Damn right! And you expect anybody to undo the damn mess in only nine months as a President. You have to be a fucking troll. That's the way they rationalize everything.
Evet's no troll - s/he is just not as complacent as far too many other registered Democrats.
Nowhere in Evet's post did they say Obama should have completely undone Bush's mess in nine months. What Evet did say, and what many around the world agree with, is that Obama should have shown more concrete accomplishments in the interest of peace before being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
If, as some are suggesting, the prize was awarded on the basis of America's demonstrable course correction away from the neo-conservative nightmare, then why not give the prize to the voters of America or Obama campaign workers or the oppressed minorities & union members who busted their collective asses on Obama's behalf?
If President Carter didn't get it for brokering peace between Egypt & Israel while he was still in office, I can see no justification for awarding it to President Obama now.
perplexing.
With all due respect to the President, the Nobel Peace Prize is as politicized as the IOC is.
The awarding of the prize to President Obama has as much to do with the world community shoving it up GW Bush's ass, as it does with honoring the President's committments.
n/t
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thought any President was due any respect?
Well we've only been listening to his views since the Bush administration... Clinton?
Who was your last respectable president?
I can hear the rightwingers now...
Barack Obama...the new Jimmy Carter.
Obama was already mimetic of Carter's ieffectuality before this award was announced.
Nice guys.
Bad leaders.
(and No morons, I don't want Bush back, nor did I vote for him)
of the always overabundant liberal carp.
You can say this after only 8 months in office?? You lose any credibility you may have had.
Obama has won the Nobel
But Bush should be sharing as well
Since his warm relations
Inflamed many nations
And helped make the globe hot as hell.
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Hannity will have something else to talk about tonight. He's going to lose his scalp. Darn.
Obama hasn't really done anything that deserves this kind of honor. I am not up who was also in the running but I can guess that they have had greater impact and are more deserving. I would bet Obama would agree with this as well.
Now, on the other hand, just as a slap to the conservatives and to the Bush administration this is simply a wonderful thing. Just think about how much blood pressure is being raised as we speak on the right.
Good news: we get to watch the right wing screech for all the wrong reasons.
Bad news: Obama gets the peace prize for all the wrong reasons.
As Alice X so wisely put it....Sheeeeeezsch!
Perhaps this will give Obama the courage or motivation to actually end our "wars." It would certainly be an opportune time to get the f*ck out of Iraqistan.
Still, I'd hate to be the janitorial engineers over to Fox today, there's going to be a lot of brain goo to clean up - and that makes it worth it.
There won't be too much brain goo to clean up. It is Fox News. Gretchen Carlson may strain an eyelid from blinking too much. Steve Doocebag may strain the muscles in his face that allow him to smirk like a jerk-off. Glenn Beck may suffer concussions after banging his head into his socialistboard. But brains? If brains were dynamite, Fox News personalities couldn't blow their noses.
I would suspect that one motivation behind the award was to give him a nudge in further cutting nuclean proliferation and to end our occupation in at least on country.
imagine what he could have accomplished by now if it weren't for the efforts of BLOCK AND BLAME republicans.
maybe living in our sheltered from the world MSM news bubble with it's focus on how american news effects their particular agendas, we do not truely grasp the importance and effect of having a president that takes a whole world view of the effects of our actions. it is obvious that the world has taken note and is celebrating this change. we are the world leader after all, right.
The Democrats have the MAJORITY. It's not just they don't have spine, they're in bed with the Republicans. It's GOOD COP / BAD COP. Republicans are the BAD COP. Democrats are the GOOD COP. Both will send you to the slammer.
.........what he could have done - get rid of the PUKIERAHMIE!!! who puts the kibash on every single, real Democrate. Spector?? Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzeeeeeeeeeee
and sleep at night?
helps ease the pain.
the Award itself is about a Million, four hundred thou...
the dollar went down significantly with respect to the Swedish Krona.
for daughters Malia and Sasha that's for sure.
his nest, as a Pol for the past decade. He's set for life, now.
Another reason why he'll NEVER even gently nibble the hands that curried him for his present prominence.
No willing fellator of the Corporat schwanz leaves Office broke...
This prize seems like a message to Obama himself: "You're backsliding. Knock it off. The world is still watching you."
I hope he listens.
not of the most positive reinforcement kind.
When you get an award, it is normal to feel a sense of validation, I don't think many people go into introspective mode thinking "what did I do wrong to win this award?"
Normally, when I get an award... I have a few weeks of WTF moments as to why I got the award.
I usually feel more vilified when I don't win one and see the work that others have done and know full and well my stuff was better than theirs.
They've got a point: coming after Bush, it doesn't take much to seem peaceful and sensible. Let's hope the Obama's prize serves as a counterweight to the plethora of establishment warmongers who always find or manufacture situations requiring the violent use of force.
and believing in lies first in this country before we can making progress don't ya think?
Glenn Beck is crying.
that's obvious.
...it's a place where he wants people to pay attention to him. So, yeah, it could be anywhere.
He is smiling with glee, finally he has concrete proof that his persecutory mania was not just in his head. There is nothing a conservative turd loves more than have an excuse to play the victim.
Perhaps genuinely, for the first time in his life.
and then when he showed up to accept they could arrest him for war crimes and throw his ass in the hauge!
don't care if he shared a cell with good 'ol Roman
The world needed some glimmer of sanity from the US and got it when O was elected.
Before that they were convinced that the whole country was a bunch of raving mad lunatics like all ob faux news. At least now everyone knows that republicanism is a mental illness!
What an absolutely stunning display of sour grapes and unabashed contempt on the part of the Fox Morning Stooges.
Of course everyone knows it already, but I just dare any of the on-air hacks at Fox to again try and claim that they are "fair and balanced" or unbiased...they follow the Republican marching orders to the letter--namely, to bash, denigrate, insult and malign Obama at any and every opportunity and no matter what the circumstances.
Those clowns sounded like a clique of bitchy high-school girls with overgrown senses of entitlement who lost the election for prom queen.
Isn't it funny how it is seen as too soon to honor Obama, but it was the "Obama bear market" within two weeks of his inaguration? PBS is already running a piece called "Obama's war" which seems to be making the case that Afghanistan is his war already.
I think that people are gong to catch on to the establishment's game pretty soon. As Hillary said, "if he walked on water, people would say that he couldn't swim."
Let's see where we stand:
Ends threat of second Great Depression. "Spent too much/not enough money too soon/not fast enough."
Gets healthcare further than anybody has in 40 years. "Not enough change/Complete destruction of the American system."
Opens negotiation with Iran as promised. "Complete silence." (Did you even know?)
Doesn't blindly kowtow to the right on Afghanistan. "Indecisive".
Frees American hostage. "Well, that was the Navy, President has nothing to do with war-like matters"
Makes case for Olympics. "Having the Olympics in Chicago would be horrible. Oh they didn't get it? How terrible!"
Wins Nobel Prize. "Undeserved."
Etc. Etc. Really it is pretty amazing to watch.
PEACE Prize, when not a thing on your list has the slightest connection with "peace."
I guess you didn't put on your glasses this morning. (Don't worry, I can't find mine either.)
Do the words "Afghanistan" and "Iran" ring any bells for ya?
Not going to war with Russia over an anti-missile system that had no value at all -- "kowtowing to the communists."
Although, I must reveal I haven't put my rose-tinted glasses yet...
Peace is not bombing the fuck out of innocent villagers with drones...
When he's brought "peace" to Iraq, Afghanistan, or even, what the fuck, let's go all the way, and say Palestine, or when he's restored the legally elected president to office of Honduras, o r when he's rejected the Pentagon plans to put SEVEN military bases in Colombia, friom which to exert "USer Influence" on Venezuela, Equador, Bolivia, and the rest of thos inconvenient places that have rejected USer hegemony---that is, when he's actually DONE some-fucking-thing, THEN mebbee he's not a fraudulent choice...
but they actually stopped the drone attacks on villages because it is counterproductive.
Check THIS story
or just google US Drone attacks
I've been thinking the same thing... too soon to honor him, but not too soon to blame him for Bu$h/Cheney's 8-year fiasco... strange that!
The republican(t)s blow chunks!
Everything he doesn't fix is HIS...
which is why he's likely a one-termer, to be replaced by the next, kinder, gentler, mebbe even smarter ganeration of Theo-fascisti...
to have you rounded up and carted off for piss sake.
n/t
of New Mexico.
"...if disrespectin' the prez is wrong, we don't wanna be right."
If this is the Repubs' take on current administration values, then a commensurate Dem response should include hanging metal cages (containing the rotting corpses of Shortpants, Big Dick and top Bushco apparatchiks) from the lampposts lining Constitution Avenue.
We are talking fair-and-balanced here, aren't we?
How a war time president who could end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan wins the Noble Peace Price?
despite the fact that U.S. military forces are fighting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, Barack Obama has been awarded the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
It was his Beer Accords that he had with the professor and the cop at the White House.
That's why he got the award.
... apparently that is what we're supposed to do.
Nod, applaud, laugh on cue.
It's ALL fucking kabuki...
drool on your bib.
Stop with the bukkake war you two.
yet. Thought you'd be at Crater Lake by now.
`Bammie!"
The scandanavians were left holding most of those surplus Obama commemorative coins and plates. With a little retooling they can now be put back on the market.
Remember, he didn't nominate himself, he didn't vote, and he didn't lobby for this honor. Regardless if he deserved it or not your outrage should be with the Nobel Prize voters. Why all the hating?
and pointing things out that really don't make sense when you really examine it.
I'm not sure how much thinking goes into it.
is he won it based on what he is trying to accomplish as reported by foreign news, not what is reported by the MSM.
I am curious.
can one read media?
and the reader has had basic schooling.
from Saigon Sally on Rue McCluhan. She not only don't
read to you, she don't talk much neither. Wears pointy shoes though.
I guess...
THAT good...
or achievements by Obama for this honor. That is a far cry from "hating" me thinks.
There's plenty of hating.
What we're all missing is the Nobel Prize has become political and a joke. If Rush Limbaugh is allowed to even be nominated....enough said.
Anything remotely critical of Obama sends some people into overdrive.
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