Frank Luntz on Beck's show: The White House's language on astroturfers is 'pure hate'
Glenn Beck, of all people, is shocked, shocked we tell you, at the kind of langugage that's being used to describe the ginned-up teabaggers who are invading health-care forums with the intent of disrupting them and destroying the discourse these events are intended to engender.
Yesterday on his Fox News show, he brought on Republican pollster Frank Luntz to shake his head:
Luntz: And for the comments of people like actress Janeane Garofalo ... it's hateful. And it's awful to use that word, Glenn. But what's coming out of the White House, the language that they are using, and that you see also occasionally from L.A., is pure hate.
This, on the Glenn Beck show.
At least Beck had some vague awareness of this irony, and mentioned it a little earlier in the exchange, though without having thought through its implications:
Beck: I'm looking at the words you used here: "right-wing extremists," "desperate Republicans," "angry mobs," "the mob", "manufactured anger," "Brooks Brothers brigade." I don't remember hearing these words coming from the Bush White House. And I'm not a defender of the Bush White House by any stretch of the imagination. But I don't remember anyone saying anything like that coming out of George Bush's ... realm. There are political hacks that said some awful things, um, but this? Really? Did we call Democrats "mobs"?
Luntz: It's character assassination is what it is. And it's something that was learned under the Clinton administration. They began this in '94, '95, we saw this with the whole Monica Lewinsky thing, when anyone said, 'Hey, what happened here?', if you challenged the Clinton administration, they went after you, they went after your family, they went after your business. It's a viciousness that you see on the left.
Beck: Look, there is -- there was -- I'm a political, um, um, talk-show host and anchor. I have said vicious things. That's different than the administration coming out and saying these kinds of things. You have an official endorsement of this kind of talk is dangerous in this country, is it not, Frank?
Actually, Glenn, vicious talk gets "officially endorsed" when it is not only permitted and condoned but celebrated on television and radio shows like yours. And when it's you doing the talking, we hear that President Obama is a racist who hates white people and white culture; that he's leading the country down the path to fascism, or to socialism, or whatever flavor of totalitarianism you're flinging about this week; that his policies will enslave us.
But it's good of you to notice that this kind of talk is indeed "dangerous" -- no matter who's using it.
However, if you'll notice, the only provocative talk coming out of the White House is actually more derisive and decidedly not hateful. Press Secretary Robert Gibbs called the protests "manufactured" and suggested they were like the "Brooks Brothers" protests in Florida in 2000: "I hope people will take a jaundiced eye to what is clearly the Astroturf nature of grass-roots lobbying," he said.
The language that most upsets Beck actually comes from Democratic National Committee communications director Brad Woodhouse:
"Republicans and their allied groups -- desperate after losing two consecutive elections and every major policy fight on Capitol Hill -- are inciting angry mobs of a small number of rabid right wing extremists funded by K Street Lobbyists to disrupt thoughtful discussions about the future of health care in America taking place in Congressional Districts across the country."
Woodhouse said: "The right wing extremists’ use of things like devil horns on pictures of our elected officials, hanging members of Congress in effigy, breathlessly questioning the president's citizenship and the use of Nazi SS symbols and the like just shows how outside of the mainstream the Republican Party and their allies are. This type of anger and discord did not serve Republicans well in 2008 -- and it is bound to backfire again."
This again is more highly partisan than hateful, and not terribly different in that regard from what you might find at the Republican National Committee's website (where, among other things, you'll find they've already declared Obama's presidency "a failed experiment after 200 days") -- though less so now, it seems, than in former years.
But commentary doesn't have to come from the halls of officialdom to receive an official imprimatur, especially when it comes to movement conservatism, for whom the true seal of official approval is stamped "Rush Limbaugh" and "Glenn Beck." And from those two alone, the bile has been a deluge of Biblical proportions.
Funny that they should be the first to clutch their pearls and hit the fainting couch over the comparatively mild remarks coming from the DNC and the White House. But then, that's what we've come to expect from these losers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJG9E4NFGM&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Corporations are people too. Sniff.
Robert Gibbs gives me the vapors...
Breaking News: Our reporter treat2day of Huffington Post has learned of the following:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/6/762619...
Sounds like a good counter chant to hurl at them town hall health care protesters.
"Whine Flu Whine Flu!"
Meet the Man Who is Responsible For Turning
Radical Religious Right Wingers Into Jolly Santas:
Frank Luntz, the Propagandist of the Century
by Katherine Yurica
March 23, 2005
Updated April 1, 2005
[Editor's note: NEW April 2, 2005: the Frank Luntz Playbook for Winning the Elections in 2006 can be downloaded in a newly typed and nicely set out PDF file of 1,583 kb:
Go to the following site to read more about this Frank Luntz propagandist and download more files on him @:
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/Luntz...
Language: A Key Mechanism of Control
Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo
As you know, one of the key points in the GOPAC tapes is that "language matters." In the video "We are a Majority," Language is listed as a key mechanism of control used by a majority party, along with Agenda, Rules, Attitude and Learning. As the tapes have been used in training sessions across the country and mailed to candidates we have heard a plaintive plea: "I wish I could speak like Newt." That takes years of practice. But, we believe that you could have a significant impact on your campaign and the way you communicate if we help a little. That is why we have created this list of words and phrases. This list is prepared so that you might have a directory of words to use in writing literature and mail, in preparing speeches, and in producing electronic media. The words and phrases are powerful. Read them. Memorize as many as possible. And remember that like any tool, these words will not help if they are not used. While the list could be the size of the latest "College Edition" dictionary, we have attempted to keep it small enough to be readily useful yet large enough to be broadly functional. The list is divided into two sections: Optimistic Positive Governing words and phrases to help describe your vision for the future of your community (your message) and Contrasting words to help you clearly define the policies and record of your opponent and the Democratic party. Please let us know if you have any other suggestions or additions. We would also like to know how you use the list. Call us at GOPAC or write with your suggestions and comments. We may include them in the next tape mailing so that others can benefit from your knowledge and experience.
Optimistic Positive Governing Words
Use the list below to help define your campaign and your vision of public service. These words can help give extra power to your message. In addition, these words help develop the positive side of the contrast you should create with your opponent, giving your community something to vote for!
Contrasting Words
Often we search hard for words to define our opponents. Sometimes we are hesitant to use contrast. Remember that creating a difference helps you. These are powerful words that can create a clear and easily understood contrast. Apply these to the opponent, their record, proposals and their party.
Look at the GOPAC word list from 1996 still in operation today @: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
The Frank Luntz Rethug Playbook
HOW TO SCARE THE AMERICAN PUBLIC INTO VOTING REPUBLICAN
Here are the Table of Contents from Luntz’s 2006 GOP Handbok:
Chapter/Page
1 Introduction: Learning from 2004 ... Winning in 2006 3
2 Setting the Context and Tone 9
3 Growth, Prosperity & Restoring Economic Opportunity 19
4 International Trade: Promoting America’s Competitiveness 41
5 The Budget: Ending Wasteful Washington Spending 57
6 Tax Relief & Simplification 73
7 Social Security -- Retirement Security 89
8 Lawsuit Abuse Reform: A Common Sense Approach 121
9 An Energy Policy for the 21st Century 139
A The 14 Phrases Never To Use 165
Here are Frank Luntz ‘s 14 phrases never to use from 2006 for Republicans running for office:
1. Government - Washington
NEVER SAY: Government
INSTEAD SAY: Washington
2. Privatization/Private Accounts - Personalization/Personal Accounts
NEVER SAY: Privatization/Private Accounts
INSTEAD SAY: Personalization/Personal Accounts
3. Tax Reform - Tax Simplification
NEVER SAY: Tax Reform
INSTEAD SAY: Tax Simplification
4. Inheritance/Estate Tax - The Death Tax
NEVER SAY: Inheritance/Estate Tax
INSTEAD SAY: The Death Tax
5. A Global Economy/Globalization/Capitalism - Free Market Economy
NEVER SAY: Global Economy/Globalization/Capitalism
INSTEAD SAY: Free Market Economy
6. Outsourcing - Taxation, Regulation, Litigation, Innovation, Education
NEVER SAY: Outsourcing
INSTEAD SAY: Taxation, Regulation, Litigation, Innovation, Education
7. Undocumented Workers - Illegal Aliens
NEVER SAY: Undocumented Workers
INSTEAD SAY: Illegal Aliens
8. Foreign Trade - International Trade
NEVER SAY: Foreign Trade
INSTEAD SAY: International Trade
9. Drilling for oil - Exploring for energy
NEVER SAY: Drilling for oil
INSTEAD SAY: Exploring for energy
10. Tort Reform - Lawsuit Abuse Reform
NEVER SAY: Tort Reform
INSTEAD SAY: Lawsuit Abuse Reform
11. Trial Lawyer - Personal Injury Lawyer
NEVER SAY: Trial Lawyer
INSTEAD SAY: Personal Injury Lawyer
12. Corporate Transparency - Corporate Accountability
NEVER SAY: Corporate Transparency
INSTEAD SAY: Corporate Accountability
13. School Choice - Parental Choice/Equal Opportunity in Education
NEVER SAY: School Choice
INSTEAD SAY: Parental Choice/Equal Opportunity in Education
14. Healthcare “Choice” - “The Right to Choose”
NEVER SAY: Healthcare “Choice”
INSTEAD SAY: “The Right to Choose”
“We need to learn from our one great political success of 1997-98 - the Senate hearings. Democrats were caught flat-footed by the public outcry against IRS abuses, but that outcry only occurred when Americans had the choice to watch and listen to the IRS abuses from the comfort of their own couches. Sure, beating up on the IRS is always effective, but the public hearings are what brought the story home.
Therefore, we should recreate the same political and communication environment:
1) PUBLIC HEARINGS. This is the most important component of the communication strategy. Most of our projects are conducted through C-Span, CNN, Fox News, or other “political” outlets. Public hearings, if they are sufficiently visual and sensational, can transcend politics and enter the day-to-day lives of average Americans. That’s exactly what happened with the IRS hearings and what canhappen here.
2) TOWN HALL MEETINGS. This is how individual Members can link their own hostility to wasteful Washington spending to the commission’s efforts. Each Member should hold multiple town hall meetings that replicate in a hundred districts (It’s better when two or three Members work together) what is happening in Washington.
3) TALK RADIO. This is how we hit the grassroots home run. Imagine the political impact of Rush, Hannity, Liddy, North and Reagan reading lists of wasteful programs every day to about 35 million Americans. Let the Democrats defend them. Let the Republicans and our conservative allies attack. The Cost Containment Commission was made for talk radio.
4) MEMBER NEWSLETTERS AND MAILINGS. The simplest strategies can be the most important. Newsletters and franked mail filled with stories of wasteful Washington spending and what Republicans are doing to stop it is what we want constituents to be reading about from now through the next election.
Cons are such helpless victims, aren't they? Poor things are soooo abused!
... another day, another example of boldfaced projection by another republican.
BTW, didn't this jackass claim he had had enough of politics, and he was leaving the GOP to start a budding carreer in cinema (he went as far as moving to Santa Monica to be closer to Hollywood I am not making this sh*t up)... or was that yet another line to add to the litany he has spewed during his tenure? Just go away Mr. Luntz, you have done enough damage to this society...
But then they went and cancelled the X-rated movie about gay trolls that he was supposed to star in.
Seems no one would... Well, you get the idea.
And not that there's anything wrong with gay trolls, mind you...
Costarring Dick Morris, right?
With Orly Taitz as the Madam and Rush as the couch.
That image will haunt me for weeks.
Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)
"... it's hateful. And it's awful to use that word, Glenn."
Well you're the expert Frank.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
But don't you have to have some in character the first place?
Beck: I'm looking at the words you used here: "right-wing extremists," "desperate Republicans," "angry mobs," "the mob", "manufactured anger," "Brooks Brothers brigade." I don't remember hearing these words coming from the Bush White House. And I'm not a defender of the Bush White House by any stretch of the imagination. But I don't remember anyone saying anything like that coming out of George Bush's ... realm.
Actually, the message from "Bush's ... realm" was that democrats were anti-american, treasonous, traitors, surrendermonkeys, etc.
Remember when he asked point blank "Why do democrats hate America?"
"anti-american" "treasonous" "traitors" "surrendermonkeys" are some of Frank's most inspired insults as I recall...
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Republicans have quite the victim complex- Like how they attack anyone who doesn't worship Jesus they way they do, yet they claim they are the ones being being victimized..
Like how white supremacists claim they are the ones who are real victrims of racism...
Like how the right slammed the patriotism and threatened liberals who questioned Bush in any way, but now they demand total freedom to voice their views on Obama...
Like the right wing gaybashers who venemously gash bays, and claim that gays are the hateful ones...
This is just attempt of the right to keep the left silent
Is not Obama still a WAR TIME PRESIDENT?
Wasn't that the line used to let the Bushies get way with "murder"?
Never give up and stand up to them and their tricks until they are humbled.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
You know something is dreadfully wrong with Luntz and Beck when they do not mention the fact that death threats to Obama are up 400%, straining the resources of the Secret Service.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/presiden...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nor...
This was reported by Alan Colmes as well....and he works for Fox News.
http://www.alan.com/2009/08/05/death-threats-...
This is the result of the hate spread by the likes of Glenn Beck and the teabaggers at town hall meetings.
Release Richard Cheney back into the wild.
I wonder if he remembers "dirty forking hippie" and "TRAITOR?"
I can honestly say that traitor was my personal favorite during the bush years.
After all, I was only an active duty Sailor who had served in both wars.
I might as well have been Saddam Hussein, or worse, Jane Fonda.
(the following is a prediction and not a threat and is something I DO NOT DESIRE TO HAVE HAPPEN)
I think Glenn Beck is playing with fire. And Glenn Beck is far too stupid to be playing with fire. His TV career will end due to a violent act, not ratings and he will get hurt, and I really doubt it'll come from one of us. It'll be one of his own making.
Glenn's ultimate demise will come about due to an unfortunate auto-erotic misadventure.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
NO NO, don't fellate that exhaust pipe
You'll kill yourself!!!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
what a *groan* "gas".
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
auto-erotic
When you think about it Beck really has no other choice.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
And didn't GW Bush refer to the "angry left?"
are doing most of the dying when it comes to politically-related crimes. Yet, it is the conservatives who pull the trigger the ones who claim to be the victims.
I don't mean to invoke Godwin on this, but this would be akin to the Nazis complaining about "the angry jews." In fact, reading articles about white supremacist groups, that is exactly what they do: portray minorities as out of control anger balls, even though it is them skinheads doing all the beatings and intimidation. I guess one of the symptoms of the mental disease, affecting a large portion of the conservative spectrum of our society, is unmitigated projection.
if I may say so myself.
Is that really a toupee? I never noticed.
?
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Well, I really haven't ever noticed that he has a toupee!
But, now that I think of it, "toupee" is a great metaphor for Frank Luntz...all fake BS!
a Hell toupee.
Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)
my favorite line!
Oh will, enjoy it! :-)
;)
Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)
with a bad weave...
Absolutely nothing.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Luntz is a clown.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
How all the little Bush-bunnies now try t0 distance themselves from that train wreck.
"And I'm not a defender of the Bush White House by any stretch of the imagination"
Well, maybe no anymore .. .
Effin LIARS and hypocrites.
Someone should take Frank Luntz for a long walk off a short pier.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Why the fuck aren't these assholes standing inside chain link enclosures a mile and a half away from the venues?
Isn't that how Republicans wanted 'free speech' expressed over the last 8 years?
And how dare we let these rabble in! Where are the screeners, the loyalty oaths? Why doesn't anyone with an anti reform t-shirt just get thrown out. Bet they take out the wrong books at the library too!
I keep wondering if that's their actual purpose.
Make permanent the boosh era pre-clearings, secret service investigation of any group that seems radicalized, and monitoring of protesters.
And then they can claim they were victims of the left.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I clearly remember the expectation that we would stay in our wee 'protest zone' far, far away from the motorcade in January 2005. I also clearly remember the armed National Guardsmen, German Shepards and SWAT teams herding us into intersections because the bleachers were for RNC donor spectators.
These idiots are such a waste of carbon.
hate the idea of healthcare reform?
How dare the dems claim the Fox Fighters are fake! Don't the Dems know this'll just bring the wrath of the 912er, the teabaggers and the astroturfers to their doors.
I wonder if the Astroturfers have to mow their lawns? No wonderr they have all this time to harass the lawmakers they voted in!
I would suggest t-shirts, cards, and chants of Matthew 5:1-12
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=m...
And/or
Matthew 25:41-46
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=M...
And Ezekiel 16:49-50
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=e...
Just chant the citation, make the goobers have to look them up.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
for someone, anyone, to take these 'tards away!!! lock 'em up and throw away the key...
It's true. It didn't require any imagination-stretching to realize you're a defender of the Bush White House.
These orchestrated outbursts and disruptions at townhall meetings remind me of the demonstrations the Republicans pulled during the attempted recount of the 2000 vote in Dade County. Watch the movie Recount and see the similarities.
You are making good money, Luntz. Please invest in a credible toupee.
frank luntz: paid corporate whore. luntz can spin anything, can create polls to support whatever screw-the-people initiative his johns pay for.
and, no surprise, he is both a whore and a pimp.
some of luntz's current clients include:
phizer
blue cross blue shield
consumer healthcare products assoc
CIGNA
General Electric
http://www.luntz.com/clients_overview.html
its not just beck that uses this asswipe, luntz is part and parcel of msm political coverage, on cnn and fauxnews.
the msm has never and will never (please prove me wrong) reported that luntz is a paid corporate operative. of course, they never mentioned that about richard wolffe either. nor the scads of retired military whores that curse the airwaves. best bet: don't trust any of the experts the msm rolls out to discuss... well, anything.
i wonder if this douchebag's kids think that jesus rode a dinosaur and that food coloring is poisonous? if he tells them the truth at home like tells it on TV, they probably do.
the term 'republican pollster' is an oxymoron. if they dont like the numbers that they get, (as if they actually poll anybody) they just start making shit up.
pot calling kettle black!
..of this argument and an instant after someone used nazi symbolism against the government, I would have jumped that ship. What a bunch of fools and idiots and sadly, that's all the GOP has left for a base and I'm sorry I'm using those words but seriously...
In one of the Town Hall Meetings, one guy kept asking the same question over and over and over..seemed like he wanted to be smacked-down hard by someone. "Is this bill the one you're going to vote for?" "Is the bill in your hand the one you're going to vote for?" "You read that bill and you're going to vote for it?" The bill in your hand is the actual one..." STFU
Someone asked how many for the Public Option and how many against. All the tea-bag racists raised their hands but none of them needed a health care plan; they already had one and some of them were on Medicare. It was lunacy!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
formed America.
Republicans are just visiting.
"Just Visiting" is right next to JAIL.
The uneducated nutcases should honestly be called Right Wing-NutO racists, lunatics and dangerous, unpredictable, terrorists.
Republicans.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
How can one man be so freaking evil? Oh yeah, he's a neocon.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
... Michael 'Bling-Bling' Steele, the GOP has a serious branding problem.
I mean, if I say 'Tylenol,' and your first thought is 'tampering' or 'poisoning,' it addresses public perception.
So if I say 'Republican,' and your first thought is 'racist homophobic bastards' or 'Christian dominionist ratfuckers,' well - there's your public perception.
of a vacuum cleaner in reverse.
He blows AND he sucks large quantities.
The last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a hook in it! Badoomdoom!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
This appears to be the Meme o' the Day(tm) in Wingnuttia. Michael ("Howhigh?") Steele is claiming on Politco that the Dems are using "fear and smear" against our poor delicate Republican friends.
Woe! Woe!!
Won't somebody think of the Republicans?
these guys to begin sharing names and addresses of liberal bloggers in an effort to intimidate us. Any day now.
I'm getting carpal tunnel syndrome in my middle fingers.
Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)
And once again, I see the selective bashing Saul Alinsky...
The funny thing is, the tea baggers admit that they studied and developed their tactics from Alinsky....
http://www.onthemedia.org/transcripts/2009/04...
BOB GARFIELD: Finally, going back to the questions of astro-turfing, and now that this is all played out, and considering the controversy that has erupted over the real grass roots versus fake ones, do you wish that your organization had behaved differently in trying to mobilize the turnout on April 15th?
ADAM BRANDON: Absolutely not. When we get our jobs in our organization, the first thing you do is you sit down with some of Saul Alinsky’s books, Rules for Radicals. And we read that book and we study that book, and everything that we've been trying to do here comes straight out of those pages.
Can Beck really be that dumb?
(Please, that was a rhetorical question)
... Saul Alinsky, but the image of a conservative reading a book on radical thought and dynamics really sounds strange.
Yeah, I joke that I don't know whether Alinsky would be ironically honored, or whether he's rolling in his grave. I could see him doing both.
Point is, the tea bagging, the disruption, the bending the law to the breaking point, it's all in Alinsky's book, and the conservatives are using it.
I don't think it needs any explicit acknowledgment, but if you are going to bring up Alinsky, then at least be honest about how it's being used.
I know, I know, it's Beck and Fox we're talking about...
Fuck the rug Frank, put the fork down.
Speaking of rugs:
http://www.trendhunter.com/images/phpthumbnai...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The perfect pet for Luntz.
Or Ted Koppel.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
No doubt about it - they WANT physical confrontations.
They smell REAL blood - and they're all on a hair-trigger.
*
Let's give it to them.
Fuckin' A.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Let me get this straight. Glenn Beck, whose entire schtick seems to be "I'M WACKY!... BUT YOU'RE ALL GOING TO DIE IF SOMETHING ISN'T DONE... BUT I'M STILL WACKY!", who's talked big game about the nanny-state government that's trying to destroy us all and telling us about how we as an American people have to step in and do something, and recently had to step back and say, "Dude, do something about this, BUT DON'T BE VIOLENT ABOUT IT, YOU DUMBASSES"...
That same Glenn Beck is accusing the White House of hate speech.
I already know he doesn't have any sense of decency, but what about irony? Does he have any sense of irony?
Or do they both look and seem like they're probably in diapers from the waist down?
Republicans have the Whine Flu.
Bullshit. They are the ones attacking. We are the ones whining about it.
...and uses apocalyptic language to describe the threat Obama and Democrats pose for the country (and world).
I see Beck as trying to have it both ways -- he wants to incite violence while providing himself cover by calling on people to be respectful and polite.
Faced with Armageddon, who would behave politely? What role will respect play in the final battle between good (Wingnuts) and evil (Obama and Democrats)?
I'm confident that Beck sees the publicity he would receive, were he to be sued for inciting violence, as a great career move. He'd like nothing better than to claim he is a martyr in the cause of freedom.
Republicanz are full of hate. Luntz is full of hate. Luntz is projecting.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
...of course, that leaves MILLIONS of morons in this country that hang on every word he says.
We are a nation of morons and f*cktards. We have waaaay more than our fair share of them.
Frank Luntz - fat and stupid while talking.
Don't kill your parents, Frank. Kill yourself.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
You know what after watching these ignorant fucking republicans for the last 50 years, after being one for about 8 years, and having seen the light at to what being a republican really means.
I am begining to have some hate for these stupid, willfully ignorant people. How much longer are we going to act like they are sane?
The facts show they are either criminal or insane or just plain stupid!
It leads me to the conclusion that republicanism is a mental illness!
And insensitive to their common man.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Egg Foo Yung.
But Luntz is wrong to wear it on his head.
Because I haven't read the whole thread.
Doughy PantLoad strikes again!
What is your conceptual, continuity?
this guy is "family" right?.....
he's as big as a house.
there's a Bullshit episode with Penn and Teller and they completely destroy this guy...
"I don't remember anyone saying anything like that coming out of George Bush's ... realm..."
That's because no one identified as a possible opponent or critic of Bush were allowed into any of his events.
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