John Ziegler: America's least favorite bachelor spews with Beck
By David Neiwert Wednesday Feb 25, 2009 9:00am
Now that he has his bogus "documentary" about media bias in the 2008 campaign -- built on a false premise and laughably bad data -- all ready for sale to the wingnuttery-consuming public, John Ziegler has been making the rounds on TV -- mostly Fox News, because his appearances on other networks have been so unprofessional and contentious that they likely won't have him back.
He was on Bill O'Reilly's show Monday, and then popped up on Glenn Beck's program yesterday. It's really a prime display in complete wingnuttery, especially as Ziegler lets everyone in the country see what a complete and utter a-hole he really is.
But then, as Heather noted this morning, we knew that about Ziegler from his appearance on a dating show last year, thanks to the fine folks at Political Carnival:
Meanwhile, regarding that media bias thing:
'Liberal bias?' IU professors find network TV election coverage favors Republicans
A visual analysis of television presidential campaign coverage from 1992 to 2004 suggests that the three television broadcast networks -- ABC, CBS and NBC -- favored Republicans in each election, according to two Indiana University professors in a new book.
"We don't think this is journalists conspiring to favor Republicans. We think they're just so beat up and tired of being accused of a liberal bias that they unknowingly give Republicans the benefit in coverage," said Grabe, who also is a research associate in political science at the University of Pretoria in South Africa. "It's self-censorship that journalists might be imposing on themselves."
Grabe and Bucy's book is the culmination of the first major research project analyzing the relatively unexplored territory of visual coverage in presidential elections and how that influences public opinion. Between 1992 and 2004, they found, candidates were steadily shown more visually, in what they call image bites, while their verbal statements, or sound bites, decreased in average length.
They examined 62 hours of broadcast network news coverage -- a total of 178 newscasts -- between Labor Day and Election Day over four U.S. presidential elections between 1992 and 2004. Cable news outlets, including CNN and Fox News, were not included in their research. The professors are now looking at 2008 election coverage.
I'm wagering their analysis of the 2008 coverage reaches a similar conclusion.
Of course, guys like John Ziegler will just dismiss this kind of data as further proof of "liberal media bias."
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John "Bachelor #2" Ziegler. Today's Worst. Person. In the Woooorld.
He was recently on Morning Joe too. Some of the stuff the guy was saying was so bizarre. According to him the MSM elected Obama and destroyed Palin all by themselves. He refused to admit that Palin had made any mistakes at all. He just sort of seemed to forget how many times the media went after Obama for first one thing and then another.
Jeebus tits, this guy is nearly as patronizing as Bobby Jingles! To watch him sit there and tell that woman to her face.......just UUUUGGGHHH!! What a complete and utter douchenozzle!!
My favorite line - 'I've been in a lot of really good relationships.'
REEEEAAALLLYY...
You'd think that a 'really good' relationship would last long enough that a person wouldn't have more than a few in their lifetime. Certainly not 'a lot'. Something tells me that the women involved in these 'really good' relationships might characterize them quite differently.
I don't think this guy has ever once considered the possibility that HE might be the problem.
relationships with "women".
maybe it was the combination USB Drive/Swiss Army Knife/Penlight and Transformers briefs that did him in.
are irrational and have a devious plan to look less young and perky as they age. When you think about it, it's probably not even worth his effort to have a relationship with a woman that can't be put on a mastercard.
Would those be under the Depends? Because Damn! if those pants aren't baggy in the ass.
"Marriage should be treated like any other contract, renewable every few years".
Treating like a business agreement one of the most important human institutions based on love and trust.
Yep, he's a Republican, all right. :-(
But only if you're straight, remember.
Trabslation: If your ass gets fat you're toast. How romantic.
Jesus Christ, what an ass hole the guy was on the date. Any woman that would put up with that jerk deserves what she gets. Maybe he has a crush on Palin because he thinks she would be his type and therefore the movie.
I'm thinkin this guy wants some mousy little blond child-woman who will take his comments on her lousy golf form with a wide-eyed "Oh no! Can you PLEASE help me do it better, Mr. Big Strong Protector/Thinker Man?"
Whatta load.
Margaret Thatcher was supposedly a sexual turn-on for British conservatives back in the day. I've long suspected that American conservatives wanted their own version. Palin might well be it. Creepy, creepy, creepy.
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What an idiot. The clip from the Dating Game was very obvious from watching this clueless male bimbo with beck. Two peas in a pod...and I hope he loses his shirt on this ridiculous adventure.
Problem is, the right wing will support his lunacy, and they have enough money to send some crumbs his way to keep him going. Sad.
This is one sad individual...but I know several "other repuglicans" that have his personality almost to a tee.
Ummmm, what about Bill Clinton?
Doh!
So if doing one documentary and being on a dating show is all the credentials needed to get on all the major News shows and be taken seriously as a conservative - yet Amy Goodman who is a respected journalist with years of actual experience and a proven record is still considered too fringe to be taken seriously by any major news show - how does the idea of a "liberal media" still remain?
Oh, that's right, it's loudness that matters, not facts.
It's one big circus. All everyone wants id to grab the spotlight, get a book deal, rake in cash. They don't really care what they say to do it, just "give me the money." (See Ann Coulter)
Nail on the head. I think these conservative flailers fall into two categories: those who are genuinely crazy and those who are gaming it for fame and profit. Most of them are tinfoil nuts, some (like Limbaugh and O'Reilly) are just pretending and using people for their own gain. Either way, it's pretty embarrassing that this is the public face of conservatism. Or it would be if they had any shame. If there was more money in being liberal, they'd be liberals. If Obama and Democrats maintain the current level of popularity, look for a few sudden transformations of the Dennis Miller variety in the next few years.
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Seems he feels being married is like owning a car. You keep it a few years and then if it doesn't look as good as new any longer you just trade it in and get a better looking one. He seems to think he would like to do the same thing with a wife.
...the dating scene needs a bailout like the Big 3?
True Republican "family values" exposed once again.
ziegler's idea of proper dating music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK8L0b_T3Ms
No no no THIS is ziegler's idea of proper dating music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtXQAQ7i21U&fe...
I thought of that one too, but not gross enough. Warner Brothers is also going around turning off the sound on their music on Youtube, so my experience is that live songs work best.
I hear you. I made 5 short videos in the last month and I had to make the music myself.
and Ziegler are just two of the delusional right wing nuts out there and they get a microphone?
the "liberal media bias" is this:
When looking back over the last 10 years, more republicans have run afoul of the law than Democrats. All crimes committed by public servants are newsworthy. If they were all covered equally, then obviously there will be more negative press for the gop. Next, a lot of times, a story would be dead after 1 or 2 news cycles, however, the politician themselves keep it in the news. Had larry craig just plead guilty and kept his damn mouth shut. The story would have died far more quickly than it did with his continued denials.
Because republicans have a tendency to deny any wrong-doings, they bring it upon themselves. The very same thing happened with John Edwards and Bill Clinton. Had they admitted to their extra-marital affairs (which aren't even illegal), the story would have died far sooner. However, when the story breaks, it runs for a few news cycles.
If the accussed denies any wrong-doing, the whole story will be brought up again when the truth gets out.
The long and short of it is, there may be more negative press given to republicans. But...they did it to themselves.
Another factor is this, for most of the last 10 years, there have been more republican politicians and appointees. Another reason why there might be more negative press. There's more of 'em!
Either way, it's easily debunkable without any major college studies. It only requires as little as a tenuous grasp on reality to figure out why.
There is no such beast as the 'mainstream media' or 'liberal media bias.' These are both scare-memes from Rush Limbaugh to browbeat the media into covering stories the way he wants, and scare the public into following his lead.
What makes these scandals newsworthy is the hypocrisy. Frankly, Democratic hypocrisy is not nearly as entertaining as Republican hypocrisy. That's why Republicans get more heat over their scandals. It sells more papers.
Tom Daschle getting busted for back taxes.....kind of a sleeper.
Blogo attempting to sell a Senate seat. Yawn.
Homophobic Senator dropping his pants in an airport restroom and signaling to an undercover cop that he wants public sex.--Pants wetting hilarious!
A gay prostitute posing as a "journalist" and getting access to the WH press room...Late night fodder!
Bottom line: Sexual hypocrisy is a lot more entertaining than financial hypocrisy, and it sells more papers.
No. Not gonna watch it. And I care less what they have to say. They are nincompoops.
he said poop
Naturally. It's what happens after eating nincoms.
Everyone knows THAT....pssst....Taarak...whassa nincom?
sssshhhhh.... (i dont know)
Everyone knows research professors have a liberal bias too!
/snark
you hear crap like that!
Acedamia cannot be trusted they are all closet (if not full-out) communists.
The irony of that comes readily apparent when you discuss things like alternative energy or global climate change. When presented with a, "lets say for arguments sake, that you're wrong, what then," argument, they will counter with something like, "We'll fix it. We're Americans! That's what we do!"
Very uplifting and patriotic, but...
Who will come up with the concepts? Who will invent the technology?
Academics or people educated by academics.
There's just no logic with those people.
They protected her from the media. They allowed her to be interviewed. She failed big time. Sara Palin was not ready for prime time.
The things women put up with. This is why I never watch any reality shows. To waste two seconds of precious time watching the sad life of a self absorbed punk like Ziegler(who deserved a smack in the teeth the way he treated that lady)would be just unbearable.
..those two should get a room!
Oh yeah, Sarah Palin may not have "..said.." Obama was a terrorist but she certainly implied it with that winking and nudging about our President, "..pal-ing around with terrorists."
I meant this to be a Fresh New comment not a Reply, sorry.
Study: Chicken-Shit Journalists Gave Favorable Coverage To Republicans Out Of Fear
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/24/self...
..Obama is "extraordinarily brilliant! Bush is an idiot!
Wow, truth from Glenn Beck, Wow, there I said it again!
Glenn Beck - What an idiot! That was hard to listen to.
Sarah Palin allegedly said things?
Would someone PLEASE lock the door on the sanitarium!!!
What a F***ing Idiot!!!
..that's more Beck than I've ever heard.
Do you mean to tell me people really listen to him? Wow, there may not be any hope for America if that's what is considered Fair and Balanced News Reporting?
I'm serious, I don't listen to anyone on FAUX, I even hate landing on FAUX when I'm scrolling up through the channels. But I just subjected myself to about 60 seconds of that clip and I'm glad I don't have a gun because I would've shot out the computer I was watching it on.
Yikes
I would say that the odds are pretty good that ole Johnny will die a sad and lonely death as a confirmed bachelor. He just never was able to find that special woman, that exists only in his head.
for the movie. This reality show vid is precious. What a dork.
his documentary is not selling. Hahahahahaha!
"People are stupid." - John Ziegler.
No matter what spin you put on it, he said it.
We can say that in here ("people are stupid"), but on national TV???? How about if Obama came out and said, "The reason for this depression is you people are stupid." Yes, GOP mouthpieces winning "hearts and minds."
A pair of asswipes.
The dating show is hilarious. I'd have smacked him in the face and walked out. Could he have been any more insulting to that woman?
this self-conscious and insecure little man comes out, a year ago, saying that all women are irrational, and that the best to hope for is some sort of "manageable rationality" in dealing with the female gender, then, fast forward a year, he has a book out claiming that the first woman VP candidate for the GOP was unfairly treated by the media?
bwahahahahaa...
*psst, ziegler, your insecurity is showing*
He wanted to be on that date with Sarah BUT she had NOT been created yet ...
busy.
Any relation to Zig Ziegler?
there is no doubt that john ziegler is
just a turd that has been recycled twice
thru his own system......
Is America stupid because Fox News exists...or does Fox News exist because America is stupid?
Maybe.
did you see, or put up, the video from the TODAY SHOW when this jerk was on? ... monday, i think... i thought he was going to beat on matt lauer...
boy needs a chill pill for sure... at the least...
he is one rude dude.
But matt liar could use a good beatin'.
say what you want zieg but sarah palin is average at best. she was way over her head. the only "hope" she offered was the fulfilling the dreams the evangelicals have dancing in their heads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV4SnQXhwWk
Remember that T Fey used S Palin's words essentially unedited for one of her skits.
Soooo why don't these use this stuff as is. Nancy Pelosi crazy --> projection of the day.
Barack is brilliant and George is an idiot!
Case closed script unwritten!
Last time I saw a mouth like that, it was when I was laying bets with other guys on whether I couldn't stuff my own fist into my mouth.
Just don't swallow - it turns you inside out.
...should have had Nate Silver record his talk with Ziegler for the public.
in regards to palin, watch the gubenetorial debates that are posted online
not an idiot? she is the only one that reads from note cards, and is incapable of thinking out of the box
didnt call obama a terrorist? i watched her as she repeatedly said "pals around with terrorists" wtf does that mean?
press not fair? just weeks before she entered the election, she was telling hillary to buck up
not an idiot? the first words that came out of her mouth on the national campaign trail were blatant easily researched lies
not an idiot? she was the one who refused to say what papers she read...who couldnt say what supreme court decisions she disagreed with (ever though just a few months before she made statements about the exon valdez decision)
zig is a dick
these "unscripted" shows are heavily scripted, and im sure they told zig to be an asshole
but he really does think of women like that
In 2002, wanting to return to radio, Ziegler was hired by Louisville, Kentucky radio station WHAS. Once again, his tenure did not last long, as during a Ask John Anything segment, he discussed the physical attributes, intimate attire, and genital grooming of Darcie Divita, a former Los Angeles Lakers cheerleader and WDRB morning television host with whom Ziegler had a relationship until Divita broke up with him. WHAS fired him on August 27, 2003, and Divita sued for $2,700,000, claiming libel and defamation of character. However, on May 24, 2005, Ziegler was found not liable for damages as Divita was deemed a public figure by virtue of being a television personality. The case is currently on appeal.
BTW - JZ is a good friend of Hon. John Yarmuth (Dem-KY3)
Wow, what an ass. Glad the woman on the date walked off (she did so rather politely).
And wait, it's the media's job to say "Sarah Palin is not an idiot"...? Would that even be true? Squashing the Obama-is-a-Muslim rumor, intended as a smear, was responsible journalism. Palin went on TV and was allowed to speak, and she hung herself. The public saw she had no idea what she was talking about, on multiple occasions. They didn't need to be told that by the media. It's pretty sad that Ziegler and Beck actually think she was a qualified candidate. McCain didn't know what the hell he was talking about either, but as a better BS-er with cheerleaders in the press, he fared better, but was also exposed in the end.
"It's pretty sad that Ziegler and Beck actually think she was a qualified candidate."
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Thinking with the little head.
I wish she'd just blow both of them and be done with it. Who knows, she may not be that good at it, and maybe they'd change their tune.
Yeah..shit...what's 3 minutes (in total!) of her time anyway.
for her time.
.
than eating, chewing with your mouth open while sipping drinks!
talking while chewing!!
Chew, swallow, then talk. His personality was repulsive enough.....
dueling a-holes...
Is it me or does it seem it was easier to keep up with the wingnuttery before the election? These idiots or off the charts. I wonder if they are going for the "overload" plan; Just over load us with so much shit out heads explode.
They need to screen their participants a little more carefully. If a guy has been sued by a former girlfriend for harassment, he's probably not a good choice to put on a dating show.
This was a good objective test of John Ziegler. This show had nothing to do with politics. Assessment: Jerk!
that was one choice clip; absolutely hilarious... made my day!
Jesus Christ- what an unbelievable prick.
Is this the asshat who was talking about appeasement then couldn't define it when Chris Matthews called him out?
sit through a whole program with this kind of crap? An Becky boy, yes Obama is intelligent and GWB was stupid in comparison. And Johnny boy, you lost all credibility when you try to say that people see SNL as a news show.
Ziegler looks like a crazy cartoon caricature with his eyes popping out of his head and his body jerking around like that. He kind of reminds me of a celebrity gossip columnist on E.
What was Brilliant was that after eight years of total Bullshit from
the Dubya Administration was that Someone actually got up and told the Truth.
For some people this was Brilliant because, it illustrated that Americans are being brought back into A Government that they were excluded
from. Yes Real Democracy is Brilliant.
Completely unsurprised that he constantly talks with food in his mouth.
Gee, how come conservatives are alway so much better looking than liberals?
Sarah Palin vs Hillary, John Zeigler vs. Nate Silver, Sean Hannity vs. Alan Colmes..
Yet you guys gush about Michele, my arse looks like 2 trash bags of oatmeal, Obama.. and lest we not forget her black widow dress from the Lilly Munster collection on election night.. could you imagine if Sarah Palin had been seen in such a monstrosity?
From M. Obama's normal facial expression it looks like she should be force fed a Midol...
Gee, you guys attack Zeigler's data as "laughably bad".. that means that you guys are saying that Zogby does very poor & inaccurate polls... DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA TO BACK THAT UP? Should we ask John Zogby for a response? (oh, that's right, he already did that after being attacked).
Thought not! Libtards have no balls... they refuse to debate... they just keep repeating statements w/ no data to back them up until they believe...
So now the unsupported claim above is there was no bias in the main stream media during the presidential campaign... or that if favored Republicans....
Gee are you guys now going to attack Pew Research? Check out journalism.org and their study of the election coverage..
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