Morris, Hannity agree: The black-helicopter crowd was right
By David Neiwert Tuesday Mar 31, 2009 10:30am
I think Sean Hannity must be looking over his shoulder at Glenn Beck these days and realizing that he really needs to start cranking up the Batmobile if he wants to keep up with that kind of crazy. So he did his best last night on his Fox show, with Dick "Suck On These" Morris doing the honors by schlepping the discussion right into Outer Wingnuttia.
You knew it was going to be surreal from the outset with Hannity sneering at Obama's handling of the auto-industry bailout as "commander and CEO," saying that Obama is "on a mission to hijack capitalism in favor of collectivism": "the Bolsheviks have already arrived."
Morris -- who these days is coming to resemble the Glowering Gnome who lives under the bridge -- predicted doom and gloom for the Obama presidency from here on out, because GM is going to become an economic deadweight around his neck. Hannity, meanwhile, was into Naked Fearmongering mode:
Hannity: The federal government -- and I don't think I overstate this for our audience -- is destroying our economic system as we currently know it. You have written that it is socialism, and that it's mismanaged socialism.
Morris: Well, what it is, is he's deliberately making it fail. When he gets up there -- Obama -- and he says in December of this year, Volcker is supposed to report on a sweeping overhaul of the tax code, and Geithner is proposing a sweeping overhaul of the regulatory structure, what businessman in his right mind is going to make an investment when he doesn't know the tax consequence and he doesn't know the regulatory consequence.
Hannity: Here's what's frightening. And I think Americans tonight should be frightened... Spending trillions of dollars -- even David Broder of the Washington Post realizes that the CBO says unemployment is going to hit 10 percent, that we are going to have a trillion dollars of debt a year here.
They went on to describe the hell into which Obama is taking us. Morris predicted that "he's going to absolutely fall apart". And then they both began channeling Michelle Bachmann:
Morris: But there is a big thing that's going to happen in London at this G-20 -- and they're hiding it, they're camouflaging it, they're not talking about it: Coordination of international regulation. What they are going to do is to put our Fed and our SEC under the control, in effect, of the IMF.
Hannity: Oh come on. You don't think they'll do this.
Morris: That's what was in the draft agenda. They call it coordination of regulation. What it really is, is putting the American economy under the control of international regulation. And those people who have been yelling, 'Oh, the U.N. is going to take over, global government -- '
Hannity: Conspiracy theorists.
Morris: They've been crazy. But now, they're right! It's happening!
Hannity: Well, when Geithner said last week he would be open to the idea of a global currency last week -- those conspiracy people had said -- have suggested that for years. You're not wrong.
Man. You'd think these geniuses -- or at least their genius producers, or somebody with a grounding in the real world -- could figure out what a reserve currency actually is.
Trotting this stuff out as portending a "one world currency" and a takeover of the American economy is just so crudely afactual that it almost transcends the intentional disinformation it otherwise is.
But when you start telling us that the John Bircher and anti-Semitic wings of the American Right -- both of whom have long touted these sorts of theories -- were actually right, well, it becomes clear just whose agenda Fox News is now in the service of.
As we and others have already explained:
[I]t seems that on Planet Wingnuttia, the proposal by China that the rest of the world go off the dollar as its chief unit of global exchange in fact actually means that the United States will have to go off the dollar too.
Now, down here on Planet Earth, China's proposal has nothing to do with what currency we use in the United States; it has to do with what kind of currency the rest of the world uses as its "reserve currency." We could pass Bachmann's law and throw a big fat national hissy fit if we wanted, and it wouldn't make a damned bit of difference. Because the proposal is one that would be decided by each and every other sovereign nation on the planet, choosing for themselves what kind of currency they choose to use.
A little history about reserve currency might help:
After World War II, the international financial system was governed by a formal agreement, the Bretton Woods System. Under this system the US dollar was placed deliberately at the centre of the system, with the US government guaranteeing other central banks that they could sell their US dollar reserves at a fixed rate for gold if they so desired. European countries and Japan deliberately devalued their currencies against the dollar in order to boost exports and development.
In the late 1960s and early 70s the system came apart under pressure from the rising prominence of the other countries, as well as growing deficits in the US. The US dollar remained central due to the lack of competitor currencies.
Recently, nations, especially in Asia, have been stockpiling reserves at levels previously unknown, especially in US dollars, in an effort to strengthen export competitiveness by weakening their own currencies, and also to contain quick and large inflows of capital and buffer against financial crisis such as the Asian financial crisis.
But truthfully, these people are beyond help.
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Alberto Gonzales sat down with the Houston Chronicle to offer some advice on the drug war:
Dick Morris said something nonsensical and unhinged.
They have to keep these people employed. Remember, in the dead of winter, you at least have to keep the ROOTS of the wingnut bush alive, so that the weed itself can blossom the next time it gets a chance.
Ahh...this is good. This crowd gets nuttier by the day and more and more people are realizing they're being played. It's fun watching them melt down. Soon the republican party will consist of Fox news and a couple dozen fat freepers.
You know, these guys are so filled with hate of Obama, and they are so full of their own crap, that sometimes I almost wish that what they are saying actually would come true. Let's be controlled by the entire world so that idiots like this can't make their millions to spew their hate. Let this become a communist and totalitarian state so that the government can arrest these bastards and throw them into prison, sentencing them to years and years of hard labor.
Wait a minute, I'm getting all these douchebags mixed up. I thought it was Tom "suck on this" Friedman? Now I've got to juggle Friedman AND Morris? I'm going to have to measure the circumference of their necks to tell them apart! (Friedman has the fatter neck, while Morris, I believe, has the fatter ass. But I'm not measurin' that, thank you very much.)
Still, I have to admit, I didn't think Hack Hannity would manage to wait a whole ten seconds before invoking Atlas Shrugged. Maybe I underestimated the guy.
Thank you!
Morris actually did suck on toes.
he simply sucks ass.
No wonder he's such a turd.
They were against bailouts before Obama was against them. Seriously, what is the conservative stance on bailouts!!! I just don't know.
Is it whatever Obama is for they're against? You'd think these people would be all excited that Obama told GM to fuck off.
But isn't that what progressivism is all about? We can't trust capitalists so we must intervene in the economy using the enlightened government?
Morris: Well, what it is, is he's deliberately making it fail.
Projection much? Weren't these clowns intentionally trying to bankrupt our government for the last 8 years?
Okay, maybe they're just mind-numbingly incompetent, but sometimes I wonder...
Morris is in the later stage of syphilis of the brain from all his screwing hookers and [Deleted. Knock it off-Sitemonitor] excuse is that he just has a complete lack of education, past the fifth grade.
Every day main stream America tells these freaks and their extreme bullshit to fuck off and give the President a chance, and it's killing them.
I think Sean Hannity must be looking over his shoulder at Glenn Beck these days and realizing that he really needs to start cranking up the Batmobile if he wants to keep up with that kind of crazy.
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... turbines to speed. Ready to move out!
You're such a geek! LOLOL!
I think I still automatically fasten my seat belt for that reason.
Oh man...we couldn't sabotage these fucktards any better than they are sabotaging themselves right now.
Fucking PRICELESS!
Let Israel go it alone!
We already got bogged down in one expensive endless war because of a right wing war monger in this country, we can't afford to get bogged down in a second expensive endless war because of a right wing war monger in Israel. If the neocons over here who always put Israel's interests ahead of America's want to fight this, let them suit up a go fight it themselves and fork over more of their money for pay for it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/31/neta...
Tell a really big-enough lie often enough, convincingly enough, to enough people, and it BECOMES 'truthy.'
It doesn't become 'true' per se, but it enters the 'conventional wisdom.
Since the Rightards and wackloons own the SCUM, the repetition part is not a problem.
The lies are huge and growing, and the people--sheeplistic retards, believers, dolts, maroons, and Xians--are already sucking it up...
Dick Morris is the most crass and empty of political mercenaries. He's found his home on the paranoid far right, where there is absolutely no chance of his newfound friends questioning his beliefs, as long as he says the right catchphrases - and no rumors pop up about him having a Jewish great-grandmother.
Isn't it wonderful that we now basically have a "news" channel that just tells the right-wing conspiracy/militia crowd exactly what they want to hear.
I wonder how long it will take for someone to act out violently because of the bile they've been fed from that station.
... will the rest of the media report it as such?
Or will it be another case of, "... police are saying the gunman, Wayne Buford Fucknozzle, age 34, was recently laid off from his job at a factory when the company outsourced those jobs to India. None of Fucknozzle's friends or family know what would have caused him to turn violent."
Rupert Murdoch's bank account.
Okay, maybe they're just mind-numbingly incompetent, but sometimes I wonder...
The fuckers got more than a TRILLION fucking dollars from the Busheviks within the last two months of the regime.
Whatever else you wanna call it, that is NOT 'incompetence.'
http://mediamatters.org/items/200903300028
HANNITY: There's a hard -- this is a hard question, because, you know what? I'm sort of leaning -- I've been so pro-death penalty my whole life -- but the Innocence Project, you know, by Barry Scheck, has kind of made me question, as a pro-life guy, that maybe that's not a good idea. We've made too many mistakes.
Can you be pro-life and pro-death at the same time. You've got to be a contortionist to be a Republicant.
You just gotta give your brain over to Jeeeeeeeeeeezus.
Logical inconsistencies and contradictory stances are easy when you're accustomed to having your head parked firmly up your arse.
Come on! You know they want to say it. Beck, Hannity, Rush, Morris and others, you just know they want to look into the camera and scream, "We're all gonna die!"
Rather than give them more credit than they deserve, I think the better phrase would be: "The N****r's gonna kill us all!!"
i'm having this little daydream - President Barack Obama calls in to the insannity show and just lays it out... sean, you're a liar and a fraud... ... sean, why don't you talk about all the great things that you and your followers could be doing to help fix the mess you made and let's all work together for the good of ...........
why not...?
The culprit:
"I think Sean Hannity must be looking over his shoulder at Glenn Beck these days and realizing that he really needs to start cranking up the Batmobile if he wants to keep up with that kind of crazy."
Uber-snarky. Love it!
How do you watch this stuff? Seriously.
Actually, I have a Fox Blocker in my home and will no longer permit anyone to tune into CNN at this point as well. I never watch it by get it by osmosis via the blogs like C & L.
I hope C&L is protecting itself spiritually every time they permit these negative haters to infiltrate their bodies and minds.
We are what we think, hear, and see. That's why anyone watching any of these twisted sociopaths on the right need to be duly protected.
He confuses Obama's efforts at saving capitalism with Bush's record of destroying it.
So what's the GOPs campaign slogan for 2010?
"Vote for us because the Democrats did a poor job of cleaning up after us the last time we were in power"?
Well, when the goin' gets tough, the idiots come crawling out of their holes. Dick Morris has zippo credibility and no one gives a rat's a$$ what this man thinks. He's an old washed-up "has been".
He's a bona fide member of the Dick club: The Dick Cheney, The Dick Morris
hahahahah! This is priceless. First you say you do and then you don't....then you say you will and then you won't....
Obviously, the entire GOP can't wrap it's mind around or comprehend the scope and variety of tasks being tackled by Obama.
They're looking like a pathetic gang of schoolyard thugs.....pudgy little fools without a clue just looking for the next brawl to jump into.
The problem is: They're contradicting themselves now. hahahaha! Eejits!
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I'd call the Dick, Morris a bungling idiot who has crawled out of a local cesspool.
They hate Obama simply because he's intelligent, articulate, well-respected, honest, and patriotic - ALL THE THINGS THEY ARE NOT.
At long last is there no elite to say to Rupert Murdoch: have you no shame?
You'll usually find that the richest people, the one with REAALLY a lot of money, almost NEVER have any shame.
They have money.
That's usually enough to assuage the faint tweekings of conscience.
Hannity: Oh come on. You don't think they'll do this.
really means ...
Hannity: Oh go on. Put the stank on it !
Soon Hannity, the Manatee, is due to explode from overeating. Can't wait to see that on the air. He's looking like blowfish Limpballs more and more each day.
The etiology of disease has been proven to be stress. Stress is hearing things which you know are untrue. Stress is realizing that there are very sick people among us attempting to control our minds. Stress is listening to a daily diet of negativity and hate.
Dismiss these thugs on our airwaves. Do not permit them into your sanctuaries, your homes. We DO have the choice to create our own "reality" by searching for truth and rejecting the known liars and charlatans (wolves in sheep's clothing).
BE NOT DECEIVED. Take control of your life and health by removing these pathetic psychiatrically-damaged individuals from your life and mind today.
MSNBC IS NOT THE ONLY CHANNEL I TRUST.
Every utterance you hear on MSNBC, as well as on EVERY other corporate media channel, is PROPAGANDA!
All of it.
There is not one word which is not spun for corporate effect.
In the corporate State, corporate Media are the State Media...
Blocking these frauds from my daily life has translated into MY control over my environment and thoughts. It has provided a greater sense of peace despite these challenging times.
Get a list of Rupert's sponsors and bombard them with your feelings about the violence-inducing programming they are providing to our children, etc. Boycott those who support these fools. It's the power of the purse and they cannot compete with our wishes.
Make your mark on them today.
Just this week, an effort of 20,000+ livid americans pressed all of Fox's sponsors to risk being boycotted by the american people for their products and services.....UPS dropped them like a hot potato.
Speak up or forever hold your peace.
I thought that was what the black helicopters and anita bryant were trying to prevent us from doing.
Now we'll see right wingtards protesting alongside the anarchists at G20 summits and IMF meetings... hahahahahaha. Precious, aren't they?
Now we get to see the Republicans for what they really are and have always been, despite their "spin" on it all.
Finally, we recognize that THEY are the ones who have been anti-american the entire time. Oops, they've finally "outed themselves" for everyone to see.
Guess that happens when you're backed into a corner?
We made an impact with the sponsors of O'Liely's daily show and threatened to boycott them. Now we need a comprehensive list of ALL sponsors of Fox and CNN - a tool which the people can finally wield regarding removal of "hate inciting violence anti-american "tools"" whom Murdock and CNN continue to support.
Tired of these idiots spreading disinformation, using their power to spread propagandize, incite fear and take advantage of vulnerable, less educated people. Tell me where to sign my name.
Wouldn't it be entertaining to have these "folks" talk about what they really thought? A little "Twilight Zone" retribution for their zealous lives of terror? Show them dressed as they do when they have their own parties? Talk about the cost of their luxuries?
after all, it is TV? nothing has to be true.
I tried to watch the whole thing... but between the paranoid vomit of Hannity... and Dick Morris' voice... which is like a baritone version of Truman Capote.... yammering on about his anti-union views... I... I... just can't take more then a minute or two. Kudos to C and L for being able to screen this stuff. Wow. Snuff films are easier to watch.
A prostitute toe sucking moron or a flat headed college drop out talking head? Surely these are the guys who hold the answers to the world economy...right?
Morris and Hannity are totally right. if we regulate private industry instead of letting powerful private interest shrink our government down to feudalism we are all communists. i couldn't live under lenin but i think i'd be happy with the baron or lord placed in charge of squeezing cash out of my region while having no say in the matter at all. Governing is just bad, it gives power to the people and i hate them, because i'm a patriot! i have to go, the pretty nurse says it's time for my meds.
They have every right to be concerned with what's going on, we all do. However they are just certifiably insane and refuse to face reality...
With GM's Wagoner Ousted, Should Union Head Have Met the Same Fate?
FOXNews - 1 hour ago
Even though UAW President Ron Gettelfinger argues that his workers have made significant concessions in recent years, analysts say the offerings were too little, too late.
which "analysts"? ... i don't do fox...
on CNN.
It must be hell to live in outter wingnuttia and be so scared all the time. What isit about them that NEEDS to be scared?
Shouldn't that be heavenocopters of color?
Morris: "Well, what it is, is he's deliberately making it fail."
Yeah it really is amazing how far over backward this President is prepared to bend to keep you folks and Rush happy.
John Titor has warned about this! He was a prophet of his time!
I reckon we need to get letters to every single company that's advertising and giving them revenue.
They are stoking the flames of unrest among people who are legitimately unhappy with failed government policies by spreading disinformation, leading them to believe those in power now are responsible for this crisis when they know damn well that our new president had little to no control over.
That is propaganda at its worst.
I saw the headline and realized what it was about and laughed OUT LOUD. HAHAHAHHAHAH LOLOLOLOLOO HAHAHHAHAH Wipijng tears of laughter from my eyes... HAHAHAH LOLOLOLOOLOLLO
I wonder how many of their audience. I mean this is the funniest shit on TV. are people like me who tune in to have a good laugh.
I'm thinking that EVERYBODY knows that 10% unemployment belongs to Bush. I'm also thinking that everybody already knows that Bush's debt was 1.5 trillion. Correct? It took eight years to get into this horrible mess and it is going to take at least that long to get out. Why doesn't Hannity and Toes Morris let you know about that?
You would think these twio assholes would channel their hatred over to bush, like the rest of the United States as already done. After all, Bush is the one who got us into this nightmare. .
away from the UN.Glen Beck and others are spewing similar BS against the UN.The UN is the only thing stopping them from murdering and taking over the world
The UN is going to take our guns away man! It's true man, i had a black powder dream about it d00d!
Of Rambo Emanual he is the one you need to watch out for.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vp7f1QKYmg&fe...
How long do these guys think they can keep repeating the same stuff? All they do is yell Fascist, Socialist, Communist, and talk about how afraid they are that Obama has done blah, blah, blah.
Attacking just about EVERTHING the president does in such an obviously dishonest and irrational manner is simply unsustainable and ineffective.
They aren't trying to come up with solutions. They aren't even the party that offers rational opposition to the Democratic party.
I think they are wallowing in the cathartic feeling of freely speaking their minds, but they are going overboard.
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It was a piss-poor political critique, based on your inability to read the post.
You don't seem to get the difference between "one world currency" and "reserve currency", and that's just what Morris and Hannity are counting on when they conflate Geithner's remarks on the latter with the former.
And what also seems to be lost on you is that if anyone would have accused the Bush administration of steering the US to a "one world currency", Sean Hannity and Dick Morris would have been the first people to laugh the theory off.
I know I wasn't 100% on topic. I was commenting on a pattern that returned in this post.
Of course Hannity, Beck, Morris, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Coulter and countless other morons would be the first to laugh the theory off if Bush were President. They have themselves been Bushco's accomplices in the greatest leap towards totalitarianism in recent history.
My comments were about the way these posts group too many things together and cast judgment on all of it.
No, we shouldn't listen to Hannity and Morris or Beck. This is not about them. I'm saying maybe we shouldn't blindly listen to Mr. Neiwert either. Not when he isn't living up to the standard of journalism and political commentary that has usually been a hallmark of C&L.
Those who aren't worried about the mutiple conspiracies leading to this point simply because Obama and Democrats are in power are ignorant, brainwashed or simply doesn't care and are in this political game for selfish reasons. People should worry about how the USA was helped along to this point of crisis, how right-wing TV/radio hosts suddenly are stirring up for sentiment for civil war, and how the progressive movement seems to be corrupted from the inside to cover the grave crimes of not only Bushco, but the quislings of previous years in form of bankers, corporatists and plutocrats who have worked hard for many, many years to lead us to this point.
I simply don't get why Mr. Neiwert spends all his time trying to debunk everything Beck and the right-wing talking puppets say, while always lumping it together with the parody verion of conspiracy theories and always use terms like democratic populism in detrimental ways.
Now that the left in America has gained some power, they for instance shouldn't mistake the Neoliberals in New Labour in the UK for left leaning. They are just as authoritarian minded, dogmatic and corrupted by power and big business as any Neoconservative. The two groups are actually allied when you look at their policy. From totalitarian surveillance to warfare, to banking institutions and corporatism. All are traitors to their country and are wrecking havoc with the economy, the constitutions and democracy itself. This isn't about the phony left-right paradigm that is hyped.
The established powers that are screwing the world are not limited to one party, not even one ideology. It's a game, and it's best to play both sides to always make sure you get your will. (And it's not about the UN either. That's a straw man argument and propaganda to shift the blame.)
My issue is this:
Most of these posts share the same theme. They seem to pose as debunking right-wing propaganda, but under the surface push sneaky notions from the Neoconservative / Neoliberal establishment propaganda by lumping all conspiracy theories together with the jibberish of right-wing talking heads. Wake up call: The entire Bushco was one traitorious conspiracy remember?
I talk as a person who's been reading and commended this site for several years. I read it every day, and I hope my voice can be heard on this. Power tends to corrupt, you know. And it always attracts opportunistic elements. A true liberal has nothing against some "watchdogging" on his own side.
First, have you ever read any of the books David has authored? He focuses mainly on the racist right-wing and the "Patriot" movement, the segments that exist on and beyond the right wing of the Republican Party. And if you know the history of these movements, you'll know that most of these conspiracy theories have been around for a long time- the '50's and '60's, if not earlier- and were created in the same way as was The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. It's not as if David has ever said that we shouldn't be regulating corporations and keeping a check on their influence. IMO, he's pointing out the campaign of cognitive dissonance that keeps us from uniting against these corporate interests: If you're busy looking for black helicopters, you won't notice that Congress is stripping the Glass-Steagall Act from the books IN PLAIN SIGHT!
As for the coverage of Beck- were you raising a ruckus when John Amato was posting about BillO or Limbaugh day after day? Look at the name of the blog: Crooks and Liars. The Crooks are the politicians, the Liars are the media who give the Crooks their cover. Amato- in the days before YouTube- brought us the first blog that ripped video, that allowed us (those of us who don't have the time or the cable tv hook-ups) to look at what lies the likes of Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. are disseminating. If we don't know what we're fighting, how in the hell do we fight it?
Lastly, don't be fooled about the power of the Left in the USA, let alone inside of the Democratic Party. The political spectrum in this country is shifted to the right when compared to Europe. While Obama is certainly left of Bush, he may be to the right of Sarkozy and Merkel. Really.
I certainly have no problems with the mission of C&L. Never have. It wouldn't have been a favourite political site for me since its early days if I had.
And no, I'm not familiar with any of David's work outide of C&L, but I can understand more of where he comes from.
I have been adamant about being cautious with terms for the political spectrum and casting judgement. The "mainstream" parts of the right and the left are often being played for fools by an establishment who don't care about the ideology, but who only see party politics as a tool to get ahead, gain power and wealth and to remain in power with help from the corrupt, the gullible and the dogmatic.
And if one is to mention political classifications, it's worth noting that some of these "conspiracy theories" that are being ridiculed along with all the real crap stem from the left as much as the right. Not from party politics, which has to comply with the establishment version of "reality". Being truly mad is being ble to constantly disregard the elephant in the room, but it seems its the price to pay if one wants to get somewhere. Doublethinking about the recent 8 years and how things happened will only make things worse in the long run.
I would like to see more of a difference made between often irrational, psy-op-like conspiracy theories that are part of the establishment propaganda to manipulate people, and the conspiracies that evidently has lead to this point in history. Two very different animals. The former is repeated everywhere, even in main stream media now. The other cannot even be considered without risking ridicule. There are also those who want to mix and discredit both, or cannot see the difference. Which brings me back to doublethink and not trusting your own eyes, but only the established conventional wisdom. A big challenge for any journalist or investigator.
are trying so hard to scare people away from the UN.It's also a good sign that maybe just maybe Obama is doing something right and good
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