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We knew that Bill O'Reilly had done a nasty segment on Rick Perlstein -- including running his picture -- tonight on Fox News because Perlstein called me shortly afterward and asked:

"Hey, did Bill O'Reilly or someone on Fox do something with me in it tonight?"

"I dunno. I'm recording but not watching. Why?"

"My inbox just started getting deluged with hate mail a little bit ago."

"What time did it start?"

"About 7:30 [Chicago time]."

"Yep, that would be O'Reilly."

"I think they ran my picture. A lot of the mail is about how ugly I am."

I pulled my recording and yep, sure enough, there was a segment attacking Perlstein for his Newsweek op-ed column this week. He invited on his frequent guest, Bernard Goldberg, to talk about it.

As you can see, what set O'Reilly off was Perlstein's characterization of O'Reilly's audience as working-class whites whose more unstable elements sometimes act out violently:

O'Reilly: The most recent Newsweek contains a nasty piece on Sarah Palin that implies she is an intellectual moron supported by poorly educated conservative idiots.

[Hmmmm. Read the piece for yourself. As you can see, it certainly does not use language like that, and in fact discusses to working-class whites in largely respectful tones -- but points out that they don't get much respect among Republican elites. O'Reilly's caricature of the column is actually rather self-revealing.]

O'Reilly: The article goes on to say that these stupid conservatives are influenced by extremist commentators. Quote:

Now [William F.] Buckley is gone, and the most prominent spokesmen -- the Limbaughs and O'Reillys and Becks—can be heard mouthing attitudes once confined to the violent fringe. ... Fox heavily promoted anti-administration "tea party" events this past Fourth of July -- rallies in praise of secession ...

Well, obviously, that paragraph is pure propaganda.

Actually, let's read the whole passage, and you can judge for yourselves. Again, what O'Reilly omits is telling:

Another thing that makes some elite conservatives nervous in this recession is the sheer level of unhinged, even violent irrationality at the grassroots. In postwar America, a panicky, violence-prone underbrush has always been revealed in moments of liberal ascendency. In the Kennedy years, the right-wing militia known as the Minutemen armed for what they believed would be an imminent Russian takeover. In the Carter years it was the Posse Comitatus; Bill Clinton's rise saw six anti-abortion murders and the Oklahoma City bombings. Each time, the conservative mainstream was able to adroitly hive off the embarrassing fringe while laying claim to some of the grassroots anger that inspired it. Now the violence is back. But this time, the line between the violent fringe and the on-air harvesters of righteous rage has been harder to find. This spring the alleged white-supremacist cop killer in Pittsburgh, Richard Poplawski, professed allegiance to conspiracist Alex Jones, whose theories Fox TV host Glenn Beck had recently been promoting. And when Kansas doctor George Tiller was murdered in church, Fox star Bill O'Reilly was forced to devote airtime to defending himself against a charge many observers found self-evident: that O'Reilly's claim that "Tiller the baby killer" was getting away with "Nazi stuff" helped contribute to an atmosphere in which Tiller's alleged assassin believed he was doing something heroic.

At least in the past, those who wished to represent their movement as cosmopolitan and urbane could simply point to William F. Buckley as the right's most prominent spokesman. Now Buckley is gone, and the most prominent spokesmen—the Limbaughs and O'Reillys and Becks—can be heard mouthing attitudes once confined to the violent fringe. For the second time in three months, Fox heavily promoted anti-administration "tea party" events this past Fourth of July—rallies in praise of secession and the Articles of Confederation, at which speakers "joked" about a coup against the communist Muslim Barack Obama like the one against Manuel Zelaya in Honduras. "What's going on at Fox News?" Frum recently asked, excoriating Beck for passing out to followers books by the nutty far-right conspiracy theorist W. Cleon Skousen. If you were an elite conservative, you might be embarrassed too.

The difference between "propaganda" and "journalism" is that (ideally, at least) the latter is built on a robust consideration of the facts at hand -- and Perlstein's piece clearly is that. Indeed, his piece brings up a lot of inconvenient facts that O'Reilly conveniently omits.

Indeed, here's a supplemental fact that was edited out of Perlstein's piece, and which he provided us:

Then, in July of 2008, a Tennessee man who opened fire on a Unitarian church left behind a note expressing his hatred of 'Liberals in general, as well as gays' and announced as his desired victims 'every Democrat in the Senate & House' and 'the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book.' Golbderg, a frequent guest on Bill O’Reilly’s Fox News program, is author of 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America (and Al Franken Is #37).

Well, at least Goldberg managed to point out to O'Reilly that Perlstein's piece accurately focused on a very real rift within the Republican Party, a point on which O'Reilly chose not to dwell for very long. Funny how that works. All that matters to O'Reilly is that he is "a far-left zealot."

Instead, one evidently becomes an Enemy of the State -- complete with grainy profile shot -- for simply treading on Bill O'Reilly's narcissistic ego.

Perlstein did say that a Fox producer contacted him beforehand and asked if he was willing to go on the show. He declined.

"I told them to send Jesse if they wanted, and here was my address," he added.

I think he's busy practicing the words "Andrea Mackris" as we speak.

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"intellectual moron supported by poorly educated conservative idiots."

Like Billo's viewers?

Dons Johnson's picture

He's a blow hard, I wish I could be put into a room alone with him. Let's see how tough he really is.

right on_exclamation point here's picture

he's a scared little baby boy... just look at, and listen to, him.

Shadowgm's picture

I've had a few bosses who fit the same profile. Teensy-weeny egos, not all that much by way of smarts, lots of bluster and boom and bully-boy attitude.

I suspected George W. Bush was of the same mold and knew for certain after his 'gimme back my plane!' performance with China.

We may laugh at them, but that doesn't make them any less dangerous. King Dumbass the XLIII started two wars and drove our economy into a ditch. Bill-O has a nationwide audience via print/radio/television/web ... far from being a harmless yahoo mouthing off after one too many beers at the neighborhood bar.

right on_exclamation point here's picture

they're dangerous, especially when they get into positions of power. It's frightening that so many of them seem to be in these places. Am I noticing it more? Or are there more of them in what we consider positions of power and influence?

Something's definitely gotta change though... we need people who are serious, factual, have integrity, can't be bought off, stand up to BS, etc... as leaders. Somehow the wimpy ones have ascended, rather than the intelligent and holistic ones.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

right on_exclamation point here's picture

look at Superman manhandling that little kid... :o)

ricky's picture

than to dress him as a sailor.

Should have left him in his Altar boy robes.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

But does he swallow hard?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

LeftandLeft's picture

Clearly nothing tough about this guy at all. Shadowgm and right on are spot on...look at and listen to this guy...still trying to make up for the schoolyard beatings(girls included) and the constant chasing home from school.

He'll keep talking shit until someone(probably an average guy at a ballgame or something like that) punches him in the face.

Tyler Durden's picture

Esp. when it is clear that Bill O is completely unaware that he is validating the article with his lunatic response.

right on_exclamation point here's picture

now I'm gonna read that piece you trashtalk!!

annie's picture

rightwing hate talkers WANT to see violence and a societal breakdown to get a rightwing agenda back into place.

These people really need to be stopped before they damage America even more than they already have.

DevilDog21's picture

...way to stop them would be for the Democrats to succeed while they're in power.

Not gonna hold my breath on that one...

watchdog's picture

the only way we will be rid of the hate talkers like Limbaugh and Hannety etc, from what history shows is that they will escalate the violence, showing the world what they really are. The Nazis killed millions before they were stopped and the culture of the segregated south lynched unknown thousands before it came to an end.
I fear that what is coming will either be one of three things or a combo of the three; a similar incident to the Oklahoma City bombing, more Waco or Ruby Ridge stand-offs or actual lynching (killing) sprees.
After such violence occurs and in such a way that the evil bastards egging on their listeners are no longer able to refute their culpability, that’s when you will see Limbaugh, O'rielly and their like held accountable.
I don’t really see people waking up to the evil being spoon-fed them by these talkers; people love to believe their delusions.
I hope I’m wrong about that however.


When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-

sugarbiscuit's picture

O'Reilly: "I'm so fed up with these extremist commentators. And to discuss further what an outrage this is, I'm happy to be joined by Bernie Goldberg, author of a vitriolic book that attacked liberals so well it inspired a man to go on a murderous rampage. Bernie, thank you for being on the show!"

Blue Lensman's picture

The fact that he was deluged with hate mail immediately after BO's steaming segment is all the proof anyone should need.

Different Anonymous's picture
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Precisely. These rightwing internet (and teevee) tough guys are all the same. "Kickyourassblahblahblah" on the tubes, but Deferments 'R' Us when it comes time to be actual tough guys and defend this country. I'm so sick of these apes...

(Hope that was vile enough for ya, Billy).

... then Rick would not have gotten hate e-mails.

When it comes down to numbers, if only 1 in 1,000,000 were crazy enough to pick up a gun and act on the 'orders' they perceive from O'Reilley or any of the other conservative fear-mongers, is that too many? Acceptable, somehow?

"Hey, only 1 out of every 1,000,000 of my listeners is a raving nutjob armed to the teeth!"

Yet even daring to say anything negative against their darling Dumbass the XLIII was tantamount to treason. Liberals were giving aid to America's enemies and causing the deaths of our soldiers.

katie's picture

Print the emails. All of them. Make it your next column. Expose the hate for all the world to see.

DevilDog21's picture

...the clips of these lying fuck-sticks any more. They make me physically ill.

Making a mental note to myself to buy Perlstein's Nixonland book. Especially since Borders is having a "buy one book, get another for 50% off" sale.

floydgeorge108's picture

Sone thing other than this blow heart. Get a load of this. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=39324...
Sounds we have been HAD and Pres Obama needs to do what he said he was going to do on his campaine trail, over and over.

"Major newspapers disappear Sessions' alleged history of racial insensitivity
July 14, 2009 8:54 pm ET

SUMMARY: On July 14, five major newspapers reported on Jeff Sessions' opening statement at the confirmation hearing of Judge Sonia Sotoamyor without noting that, in 1986, Sessions' nomination as a U.S. district court judge was rejected following allegations that Sessions had a history of making racially charged comments."

http://mediamatters.org/research/200907140058

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

NYT mentioned he was rejected as a district court judge, but didn't say why.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Seattle_Truthseeker's picture

The racist kreep can run but he can not hide. Even if the newspapers try to dissapear his racist crap, with the internets, its only a google search away - dumb cracker - reminds me of pappy O'Dan'l and his flour hour - jerk

MarkOfOhio's picture

A complete and utter jerk. I wanted to punch him right in the babyface! Grab those ear-handles and PULL!

Truth_Critic's picture

Bill O'Reilly letting it out after the show...

[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8V_eWm0up4 ](0:35)


Study the symptoms not the virus...

floydgeorge108's picture

because no one is watching. still at wal-mart and watching the shit on TV. Do you tgink Amy Goodman will EVER get on the TV. NO, they keep putting shit for brains assholes like sex affender bill and that other shit for brains beck on.
The rich control whats on the big 3 TV stations and you will not ever see real facts.It's much fun to keep sturing up the shit.

KWillow's picture

You are correct. That is why the internet is so important. I also think that many of these "failed" newspapers will be purchased by Liberals or Liberal Groups, properly integrated with the internet, and really start to make a difference. At least, its what I hope will happen.

Floridafish's picture

I read the peice yesterday and found it spot on.

Here's a list of some of the radical-right that must insipre Bill-O the Clown. He should take a good look at the face of his and Palin's party. Thanks to the SPLC.

http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=383

MaudeLebowski's picture

Ah, Bill's favorite phrase. According to that wonderful book Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O'Reilly, he actually has a list of people he considers "too far to the left" and it's bigger than friggin Nixon's Enemies List.

ron's picture

is it O.K. for Fox to have the corruption in media and not O.K. for Newsweek to have corruption in the media. Though I would say that if Newsweek was corrupt, they don't hold a candle to Fox's corruption and propaganda.

Shadowgm's picture

... his sorry little career at 'Inside Edition,' which featured tabloid-style stories positioned as 'real' news, to his bully-pulpit gig on FOX pushing the 'mainstream media' bugaboo.

Oh, and he once won something called a Pee-potty Award or something like that. Supposed to prove he's a serious journalist.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Actually, according to Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, Inside Edition won a Peabody after o'really left.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Shadowgm's picture

n/t

surfjac's picture

..and that's what his audience doesn't realize or understand. He's there to say things that pander to them not to speak truth to them. If he did, he wouldn't have the ratings or the paycheck. What is audience doesn't realize is he's a sell-out who, more than likely, believes his own BS. And so, he's perfect for FAUX NEWS.

This is just a funny after-thought and off-topic just a little but:
Wouldn't it be fun to watch Don Rickles tear him apart?
Rickles: Hello Dummy!


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

Here O'Lielly goes again crying and wetting his pink panties over the absolute proven truth, involving the rabid, terrorist loving, Reslugs.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

But they were originally white.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ricky's picture

Or just a sympathizer of Helen G. Douglas?


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

ron's picture

gets a rightwing extremist on to dispute a left wing article about him and calls Perstein a left wing extremist. Any logic in this?

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

I'm still trying to figure out what BillO's definition of a "left wing zealot" is. I think it is anyone who might disagree with him, or more likely, anyone who might criticize him.

Amalink's picture

"I think he's busy practicing the words 'Andrea Mackris' as we speak."

please oh please oh please I pray to the FSM that someone does it and sends the tape to Olbermann.

gawd's picture

Billo the crybaby is getting so shrill about anyone that speaks the truth.

niwrad428's picture

I always laugh when I see a post referring to O'Reilly lying. It's kind of like waking up every morning to a breaking news story that the sun came out again!

Bill O'Reilly is an enemy of the state and a domestic terrorist enabler.

This from a guy who falsely disclosed his former show Inside Edition won 2 Peabody awards ranting about Pearstein not making a disclsoure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMM7NRdwrnc&fe...

generally are projecting their insecurities incluyding sexual inadequacy. It happens even among the best educated.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

ronhohn's picture

... that Rick Perlstein's article was credited to 'Author' and the piece ran as a 'News Story'. He later displays a screen that has 'Rick Perlstein - Liberal Author and Blogger'
It's not clear if that appeared anywhere or if that is what the bozo wants to see.
I have already emailed the bozo yesterday suggesting that if he signed his crap with 'Far Right Bullshitter' he may have an argument.

To Bozo:
"So Rick Perlstein was only identified as an 'Author', but not his ideology? Do you sign all your crap with 'Far right bullshitter'? You failed to mention that Newsweek also failed to disclose his full name, birthplace, birthdate, religious affiliation, sexual leaning, address, marital status, and a bunch of other stuff.

If anyone wants to know more, there is the internet where you can find more than you ever want to know, including a certain blowhard's association with a certain lady named Mackris."


If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem

Hulk's picture

It's almost comical listening to these two buffoons try to elevate their mythical world into reality for each other.

I remember back when the right wing nut cakes introduced the term "drinking the kool-aid". These idiots take it to a whole new level.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

What an ass BillO is.....I think I have said that 1000 times!

I don't think Perlstein's article said or implied that Palin was an "intellectual moron." I just sent O'Reilly an email telling him that I agree with him that she is an intellectual moron.....O'Reilly said it, not Perlstein.

Marco's picture
Ugh

O'Reilly whines so much, Ernest and Julio Gallo should name a bottle after him. It'd be cheap, bitter-tasting and contain equal parts booze and crazy.

LibertyLover's picture

THAT was funny!


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

St. Paul Scout's picture

"intellectual moron supported by poorly educated conservative idiots."

That pretty much describes everyone that has had any type of leadership role in the republicun party for, oh, I dont' know, the last 40 years or so. Going back to Nixon anyhow....

LibertyLover's picture

Has O'Reiley ever used the words: far right loons?

I know he uses far left loons for liberals and centrists...


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

KISSman's picture

It's ironic that Bill O'Reilly is mad about someone else who doesn't come clean about their political leanings. This is the same guy who would go around calling himself an 'Independent' when he was actually registered Republican who also tries to sell FOX News as legitimately 'Fair & Balanced'. What a joke!

mudshark's picture

Then I turned it off. I don't need to hear that crap. I already know what they're going to say. It's just bullshit. Opinion outlets.
And they have the audacity to call that comedy show a News source.
pffft!


What is your conceptual, continuity?

El.Kabong's picture

That would be an "intellectual moron" as opposed to, say, a physical or spiritual moron?

Freakin' moron...

Heraldblog's picture

Jesse: Mr. Perlstein, why do you refer to working class Americans as idiots?

RP: As I was telling Andrea Mackris the other day over a plate of falafels during a Malmedy Massacre ceremony...

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