O'Reilly's guests agree: It's liberals' fault Gingrich and Limbaugh are feuding
By David Neiwert Thursday Mar 12, 2009 1:00pm
On Tuesday's O'Reilly Factor, Mike Gallagher -- sold that home yet, Mike? -- and Lars Larson were on to talk about why right-wingers like Newt Gingrich just can't help talking about Rush Limbaugh and drawing his ire and thus feeding into the evil liberals' devious plan to draw attention away from the serious issue of the economy. It was a hoot.
The wankafoolery started really rolling when Gallagher came up with this gem:
Gallagher: Well, I think Newt doesn't like being part of a phony debate that's been set up by the left as to whether or not Rush Limbaugh is the face of the Republican Party. Newt has always been great at defining what Republicans are about, what Republicans are for, and putting Democrats on the defensive. And I think Newt is probably mildly annoyed that a radio host, even one as prominent as Rush, has created so many headlines over all this. And I think both of these men acknowledge that it's a disingenuous debate. It's just something that's been ginned up by the Left to try to fracture the Republican Party even further, and that's just not what Newt is about.
Even O'Reilly seemed skeptical about all this, but all were in eventual agreement that the whole thing was a ridiculous plot by liberals and the Obama administration to distract attention from the economy, which O'Reilly assures us is going to backfire, blah blah blah blah blah.
They're all conveniently forgetting one thing: Limbaugh is precisely relevant to the matter of the economy because he has made himself a major player -- and certainly its most visible one -- in the fight over President Obama's legislative package for getting the economy back on its feet.
Does anyone doubt for a minute that Republicans in both the House and the Senate would have been as significantly lockstep, completely uniformly obstructionist, in voting against the stimulus bill had it not been for Limbaugh, with this troops manning the phone lines to deal rapidly and harshly with any hapless Republicans who might even hint toward straying? Is there any doubt their leverage helped Blue Dogs water the bill down enough to make it potentially short of what's needed?
Trying to pretend Limbaugh is just a sideshow, when in fact he's been a key player in how the economic fix has proceeded -- and particularly in how it's been discussed and shaped -- is a good meme for Republicans. But it also runs aground on the sharp rocks of reality.
Limbaugh has become the most important means of Republicans maintaining their ideological rigidity through hardline party discipline, especially on economic matters. So when liberals go after Limbaugh as the face of the GOP, that's because -- by default -- that's what he is right now. And it's not looking like it will change anytime soon, either; do you see any real potential winners among that crop of Republican politicians right now? (I for one am waiting for them to recruit Glenn Beck to run on the Sarah Palin ticket ...)
So when Obama brought Limbaugh up -- "You can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done" -- it was precisely in the context of solving the economic mess. And he's right: If Republicans are just listening to Rush and, like him, reflexively rejecting every proposal he offers, and moreover reflexively working for his failure for cold political calculations, then they're not going to be part of getting anything done in the next four years, especially not in terms of getting the economy back up and running.
The public doesn't want the standard old Conservative solutions to these problems -- which is all the GOP has to offer -- and Republicans are going to have to learn to deal with that fact. The only remaining question is whether they're going to be part of the solution, or part of the problem. With Rush, we already have our answer.
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for most people when the toilets full
they flush.....bill just grabs a spoon
and digs in.......
WHAT A TRIFUKTA ........
We've been discovered comrades! Back to the collective to come up with a new plot!
boil-brained maggot pies.
Maybe I missed it...did "liberals" and Democrats force CPAC to give Rush Limbaugh the STARRING ROLE in their major National Conservative Convention a couple of weeks ago?
The Dems got it wrong when they suggested Limbaugh was the leader of Republican conservatives. They short-changed Rushie.
Limbaugh is the leader of ALL CONSERVATIVES, not just the Republican ones.
He is EASILY the dumbest man with a radio show.
When you boast that you're the "seventh most popular talk show host in the country," you really don't get it, do you?
And I'm sure all of your children are "above average"
Obama isn't going after Limbaugh; he's using him as shorthand for a dumb philosophy.
Who is Lars Larson? Wasn't he a character on the old "Phyllis" TV show?
Lars was a teevee news man in Portland, OR, for years and years--he co-anchored the last indie news station in PDX--before it became UPN, then Faux.
Although I detest what Lars has become, he's actually extremely smart. He just uses his brain to become ever more hateful of the "other"--Democrats, liberals, immigrants, unionized workers (including teachers), ethnic groups, gays, you name it.
Sad. He coulda binna contenda.
According to Wikipedia Lars started at KPTV (Ind.) in Portland in '85 while O'Reilly was at KATU (ABC) from '84 to '86. I wonder if they were pals back then? I was living in Salem in '86 and I remember that when O'Reilly left town The Oregonian's media critic wrote a column basically 'outing' him as a colossal jerk. That was not the sort of thing The Oregonian did, so the implication was that he was one super mega-colossal A-hole.
Glenn Beck is by far the dumbest. Painful to listen to.
BillO, et al, simply have an agenda.
Beck is the dumbest talking head around. Dangerously stupid, IMHO, which is why David Neiwert always (and thankfully) puts up Beck's dumbass antics. Sleeper cells of right-wingers readying for succession and war with the US? Survivalist rantings every night? Worst case scenarios? He is a stupid lunatic with a loud voice. He's more frightening than BillO, the manatee and the likes of Rush and Ingraham bundled into one big pile of shit.
over last Christmas' family gatherings, I spoke to two people who I once considered intelligent who liked Beck the moron and quoted his bullshit. Steven Colbert ripped him a new one twice with "The Doom Bunker" and his deranged close-ups of his eyes.
Adults had people like O'Reilly locked up for being a danger to society.
they would have impeached Bush for saying god talked directly to him. Then he would have spent his days in a nice padded room.
A cheating, lying, abusive husband so accustomed to getting away with bullshit that he actually gets angry with the wife because she refuses to play stupid any longer.
Time as passed these old, bitter white men by.
For the GOP. Thanks, LeftandLeft.
But really, the left doesn't have to do anything to get these nutty neocons to feud among each other. They're doing that just fine on their own, thank you very much. And get Rush's statement: Newt or any of my critics would like to have what I have. Scuuuuse me? A grossly obese body, addictions to food and Oxycontin, one of the loneliest lives anyone can imagine with three divorces and NO children, a hateful, homophobic attitude with no empathy for anyone. No one wants what you have, Rush, which is an extreme case of misanthropism and self-contempt.
Pass the popcorn, would ya?
We're gonna need tons of the stuff and maybe some adult beverages too.
Glenn Beck went where even idiots shouldn't go tonight. He has two cartons of eggs and an easter basket. Then with these eggs he tries to describe who pays taxes and who receives benefits from those taxes. It was like he was trying to explain the system to a group of three year olds. BillO was his guest and he was sitting there while Beck was doing this. Even BillO looked a little embarrassed.
Damn, our plan worked perfectly. We managed to cause a dust up between Newt and Rush. Who says working with democrats is like herding cats? Are you kidding me? Our secret plan worked like a charm. Notice no one is talking about the economy today? Every damned news broadcast is all about Newt and Rush. Even CNBC suspended showing the stock ticker and instead compared Newt and Rush. I bet it will be weeks if not months before anyone even notices the economy now.
BillO was on Beck this afternoon?
I keep sending BillO emails, telling him that Beck is insane and that he should do something about the guy because he is becoming increasingly dangerous.
Well, sorry to tell ya, I don't think Bill got the message. Maybe Fox makes him visit Beck's show to give Beck some sort of credence or as much as Bill could give any show.
I was laughing so hard when the egg and basket segment was over that I turned the whole thing off. Hopped over to Hardball to hear Chris say he had heard from a lot of people about the very last line that Ari got in last night about Sadam hitting us "again".
Well, I'll keep sending BillO emails about it anyway....he's actually read at least 6 of mine over the past couple of years.
You know, Beck the idiot has been a regular on BillO's Friday night show, so BillO's returning the favor.
Asking Billo to help Beck regain some sanity? That is like the blind leading the blind!
In both cases, you would want to get out of the way! :S
Take a cue from Colbert and go Galt! Have these other two greed based sophist jackasses join ya!
I knew I had seen that jackass Gallagher on some show earlier this week. It was BillO's. He flat out lied about the media not covering Warren Buffet's criticism of Obama.
Larson is a piece of work. I sent him an email last year after I heard some utter nonsense he was spewing on Fox. He sent me a sequence of emails saying that Obama was a Marxist.
This was about the time Colin Powell endorsed Obama....I sent him an email saying that I hoped he had seen the endorsement and the reasons for it. The idiot sent me an email back saying that "all the media's in the tank for Obama." What's that have to do with Colin Powell?
and he is, you should listen to Frank Gafney on Hardball today actually expanding Ari Fleischer's Saddam/Sept. 11 connection.
We killed off 10% of the Iraqi population based upon what Frank Gafney BELIEVED.
a real a'hole. He's been on Hardball a number of times this past year and keep spewing the same crap.
I watched David Corn's face when Gafney was talking. David couldn't believe the shit Gafney was saying at even this last date.
Do people really watch this non-sense? It would take a mental midget to believe it and it would take some on drugs to not be upset with it.
I watch BillO fairly often. I love sending him emails, telling him how wrong he is.
BillO's about the only clown, though, I can watch on Fox.
but it just made my blood boil, so I quit!
Those who believe it will always believe it. It's so absurd and bizarre that I find much of it funny. I've said many times that I know it isn't nice to laugh at people with mental problems, but when they get their own show on tv, I think maybe it is okay to laugh.
http://fortbenddemocrats.org/content/pigs-trough
This is the funniest song and aptly describes these three loons and the rest of them.
God bless them. Blaming us for their "problem" and problems.
I don't think they ever met a lie they didn't like.
... is a plot by evil libruls to divide the Republican Party, what does it say about the people falling for it?
I mean, if Rush isn't a racist coward hiding behind the label 'comedian,' and he's really a leading light of conservative thought, how is it that a man who has held such a position of prominence can be derailed by a simple remark like, "You can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done."?
If he's just a comedian, what does that say about the Republicans? Your advice for governance comes from a clown?
If he's not a comedian, doesn't that mean that the substantive criticism from Republicans amounts to juvenile name-calling and comments about President Obama's race?
Really, there's no way to have this discussion without implying that a slick community organizer has made the lot of these idiots look ... well, like idiots.
P.S. The Emperor is nekkid.
Yeah, I want Flush to FAIL. It's just a good bet! He fails at everything and to say this about Gingrich is, still, another failure for Flush.
Flush failed at college!
Flush failed as a sportscaster!
Flush failed at elementry and high school sports!
Flush failed on television!
Flush failed the draft!
Flush failed at "operation chaos"!
Flush failed at "ebonics"
Flush failed at his marriage(s), plural baby!
Flush failed at his drug addiction(s) plural baby!
Flush failed with his viagra!
Flush failed with his Bush predictions!
Flush failed with his McCain predictions!
Flush is failing (soon to fail) with the RNC
Flush is failing (soon to fail) With Gingrich!
Flush will soon fail radio!
And, there's a bunch more "Flush failures" I haven't mentioned (not enough time...I'll write a book).
Yes, we want Flush to fail because Flush is a failure at what he does. Hey, Tony Montoya had alot of money, but he was just a drug dealer. That too is failure! Watching Flush fail is just a GOOD BET. Why? Cause Flush loves failure! That's why he wants Obama to fail. So tell Billo it's all Flush's fault. Don't blame the dems, this is what Flush does: FAIL! This is his little game because the dems don't care. Flush will fail and bring the left-over old people with the GOP down. He's a failure. Pure and simple! So are the old people that listen to him!
Dress for Success!
With all that failure, I'm surprised he didn't run for President. He reminds me so much of the failures of george bush.
... is a plot by evil libruls to divide the Republican Party, what does it say about the people falling for it?
I mean, if Rush isn't a racist coward hiding behind the label 'comedian,' and he's really a leading light of conservative thought, how is it that a man who has held such a position of prominence can be derailed by a simple remark like, "You can't listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done."?
If he's just a comedian, what does that say about the Republicans? Your advice for governance comes from a clown?
If he's not a comedian, doesn't that mean that the substantive criticism from Republicans amounts to juvenile name-calling and comments about President Obama's race?
Really, there's no way to have this discussion without implying that a slick community organizer has made the lot of these idiots look ... well, like idiots.
P.S. The Emperor is nekkid.
Sorry for the double post ... system returned an error the first time.
I bet Bill Clinton is feeling left out. Up until now, everything was his fault, as seen through the eyes of the right.
Listening to the Faux Noise whiney, bedwetting, wing-nutO morons and other crybaby Reslugs they are jusy big, sore losers.
Our other secret plan to get rid of Steele seems to working too. Republicans are coming at him from every angle about his comment regarding abortion. Damn, we're good with these secret plans these days.
lars larson....God, how I enjoy missing him. I'm from Portland, and his rancor and hatred for anything remotely progressive is just enough to make me vomit from nausea. He is truly the biggest prick in the PNW. Seeing his pudgy puss on the screen reminds me of just how insignificant a piece of shit he really is. Never made it into the "big tent of a-holes" nationally. Count your blessings America.
As for gallagher and the main idiot, who cares. Such has-beens. bor is washed up, and he's just putting in his time at the propaganda network until they can come up with someone to take his soiled seat in front of the camera. he is really an insignificant sack of shit. gallagher is just an idiot. Enough said.
The repug party is going down in flames, and maybe the newt can carve off a little piece of what is left and hold onto it while the evangelical right to lifers, the gay-people of color-immigrant-minority haters, and the other gun nuts, isolationists, and other pukey factions flush down the sewer. I couldn't be more happy.
I love the analogy of the democratic party being like herding cats. I'm actually proud of that. It shows some independence of mind when they actually represent their constituents and the different points of view in America...the great melting pot.
The party of aging white christian gun slingers is just about over. They are showing signs of severe strain.
You know, (sort of OT) it has occurred to me that betting against Obama to lead the charge in saving our economy is a safe bet, insofar as the repugs have little left with which to bet. I mean, aren't we all basically shitting ourselves because even if Jesus Christ himself came down to save us, he'd probably fail, at least in the short term, to right this sinking ship? We are in for a very bumpy ride, no matter what
JesusThe Obama Administration and the 110th Congress do, no matter their best intentions. That's the whole point of using the word "crisis" in relation to our current situation. But here these churlish, spitball shooting, moronic republicans are in all their pampered glory, brrrravely betting that we are fucked and will continue to be fucked so that they can pin it all on Teh Other Side And Teh Stinkin' Libs And Socialists and prove themselves right.Yeah, real risk takers, this bunch.
Gawd, I hate these people.
They figured it out. We liberals have magic powers and it's how we can make repubs do whatever we want.
...I would give them all pig tail, snouts and piggy feet. See what they think of that.
Didn't someone already do that to Rush?
I think we should get him to the county fair and have him stand next to the pigs to see if you are right. Of course, we might lose track of him if not for his suit. The squealing and rooting around in the muck will all be the same.
I didn't watch the video or read the post, so I just assume from the photo that those three guys are in an infomercial for some sort of erectile dysfunction cure. Am I right? Or maybe a new home prostate self-exam? What to do about unsightly back hair?
Re-Thugs never disappoint for a warped, self-serving and STUPID - alternate version of reality.
The reality they want to create of course. As Goebbels and Lenin both said -- If you repeat a lie often enough - it becomes the truth. This is the Re-Thuglic MO.
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I love how O'Reilly thinks that having TWO people on spouting the same nonsense disguises the lies.
"Okay - the more people I have on that agree with me - the more my brain-dead audience will believe me - no matter how stupid I get!"
Hasn't he been a bit too obsessed with the idea of threesomes?
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"Limbaugh has become the most important means of Republicans maintaining their ideological rigidity through hardline party discipline, especially on economic matters."
and all that coordinated uncontested repetition- wrong about everything
good for some limbaugh (blue dog) dems too
These buffoons just love to hear the sound of their own voices. Anger, envy, and hate is all they have to offer America.
We need solutions! Sloutions just give me a rash and make my feet swell.
they are one step away from blaming liberals for their being conservatives...wait, that's actually true. See, if FDR;s regulations hadn't enabled the smoothness of markets over the decades, then conservatives wouldn't have had the safety within which to decide that regulations weren't necessary anymore.
This is one former Republican who now gladly calls himself a liberal because of cretins like this.
For a party that supposed to be the proponent of personal responsibility, the GOP sure blames the liberals and Democrats for a lot of things.
...if it's so easy for the left to "gin up" a controversy that causes Republican leadership to fall all over themselves to apologize to a drug-addled talk show host, the only question I have is: why are Republicans so weak and wimpy to let this happen?
Keith last night had the Republicans whining that Janeanne Garofalo was making them look bad.
Garofalo? Really? You want to unseat Obama in 4 years and Ben Stiller's ex has you pissing your manties?
"Limbaugh is mainstream Republicanism."
Music to my ears. Just keep saying that, boys.
Call this the O'reilly's uncertainty principal.....having sentient beings observing Repugs can send said Repugs into a frenzy of incoherent babbling followed by vigorous bouts of penis fencing followed by watching gladiator movies at a Turkish bath.........
..........oh those Repugs really know how to put on a show ;-)
Well that settles it then. The Repubs have no faults. How did I miss that?
Let me get this straight (so to speak)
They're actually claming the liberals were SUCCESSFUL at something?
Orally is right!
That one character on the movie V for Vendetta who had that tv show and was a drug addict and a blowhard saying shit like "I'm a Godfearing Englishman and I'm Goddamned proud of it--England Prevails"..
what the hell was his name?
;-)
He ended up with a Scarlet Carson, just like the rest of the trash!
O'Reilly just keeps adding new comedy acts to his repertoire. There's a line in a song from "A Little Night Music": "Send In The Clowns....Don't Bother, They're Here."
They're all secretly jealous that they're not the leader of the Republican party. Not that they'll bitch at Rush for it. He is, after all, the leader - and they fear him.
Loofaboy owes his entire success to the liberal blogs that have promoted him to a fame far beyond his worth. No one wingnut has had more keystrokes wasted on them than this scumbag. He feeds on the outrage his garbage opinions produce in the progressive blogosphere he labels the "far left". I'm amazed the blogosphere I am proud to be a part of keeps letting this clown tease us into propping him up with the criticism he thrives on. Olberman making him the worst person in the world seemed like a good idea at first but it has backfired bigtime. I have believed for years the best way to deal with trolls like oreilly is to ignore them. That is the key to slowing his popularity, I firmly believe.
lamebaugh the drug addict
newt the skirt chasing cheater
Owrongly the coward
it is the TRIFUKTA...
Rush displays the typical approach of the conservative. When attacked, he goes after the person, not the subject of the comment against him. Newt jealous of what Rush has? What does Rush have? A fat ass, a drug habit, and a pompous holier than thou mentality that can only be matched by the most demented of megalomania. Sure Rush, here's your straight jacket, back to your rubber room.
Why don' they just get down to the nitty gritty and blame Clinton. They have lost their focus since Obama came on the scene.
It is my fault Newt and Rush are fueding............!
I'm sorry----Rush
Limbaugh IS the Republican party
I like that, it perfectly describes what has been happening to the republiCons for the last four years now (their high was Jr`s reelection, but it was all downhill from there, Terri Schaivo, Katrina, Cindy Sheehan etc, etc). And they havent learned anything from their constant failures, they just keep reacting in the same way and expecting a different outcome (insane), they are hurdling towards irrelevancy at the speed of light.
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