Question of the day for Glenn Beck fans in Seattle: Does President Obama hate white people?
By David Neiwert Monday Sep 28, 2009 7:00am
I have to give Max Blumenthal, who I had the pleasure of hosting here in Seattle this past week, credit for coming up with the ideal question to ask the fans of Glenn Beck who showed up Saturday in the Seattle area to root for their favorite right-wing fearmonger:
Do you think President Obama hates white people?
The first person I asked was Sean Salazar, a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate -- he wants to take on Sen. Patty Murray, and so far appears to be leading the GOP field -- standing outside Safeco Field, where Beck's Seattle event was held.
Salazar, as you can see, hedged and stammered and then quickly found someone else to talk to. But he typified the response in Seattle: "When did Glenn Beck say that? Really? He said that? Well, I need to see the context." One woman said that "Beck explained that," but I pointed out to her that all he said was that he was sorry how it was worded, but that it's still a "serious" question Americans need to be asking. So I was asking them.
I also asked the man who was carrying the big sign making fun of Beck. He pointed out how white the crowd was. And it was true, particularly inside the stadium (more on that shortly). Eventually, I did manage to find an African-American man who was outside gathering signatures on behalf of Ron Paul's "Campaign for Liberty." He said he wasn't going in to see Beck.
Finally, right at the end, I did encounter one honest soul. As you can see.
I met many, many more of these folks at the Beck rally in Mount Vernon later that afternoon and into the evening. Unfortunately, I didn't manage to capture most of them on video (a camera burp) -- just one couple towards the end of the evening. But I had at least five different people at Mount Vernon, supporters of Beck's, tell me they firmly believed Obama was a racist who hated white people.
The scene at Mount Vernon was radically different from the one in Seattle. Outside Safeco, there were only 30 or so anti-Beck protesters. Everyone evidently saved their energies for Mount Vernon, where the mayor, a Republican named Bud Norris, unwisely decided to give the hometown-boy-gone-bigtime the keys to the city.
Locals chanted: "Change the locks! Change the locks!" And there were hundreds of them; the crowd estimate was at about a thousand, including several hundred pro-Beck counter-protesters. Those were the folks I talked to the most, and the toxic Obama-hatred was far stronger among this group than it was with the attendees in Seattle.
Fortunately, they were badly outnumbered.
And they were also, it need be said, uniformly white. The only whiter bunch I saw all day was the reported 7,000 who paid to hear Beck speak at Safeco (actually, it was Beck who reported that number, which makes it dubious on its face).
The only nonwhite face I saw inside at Safeco was that of the actor James McEachin, who was there to open up the event with a stirring tribute to veterans. Which was a big part of the whole spiel -- a Beckian appeal to the virtues of wrapping one's self in the flag and imputing unpatriotic motives to your opponents.
It was actually a pretty tedious affair, including Beck's speech, which really was just a kind of standard Beckian thesis bashing progressives and "big government" and touting the virtue of "real Americans" like the folks gathered that day. Real white Americans, that is. The ones President Obama hates.
The best part was getting to watch Beck pull his weeping schtick. You can watch him getting himself all worked up to do the choked-up thing, because, you know, he just loves him some real Westerners who made it over the mountains. Sniffle. He pulled the choke-up routine a couple times later in the talk too.
Wonder if he gets all choked up thinking about those "real Americans" who now agree with him that the President of the United States is a radical black who hates white people.
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Morons on the move. How quaint.
to his city, because THEY went to the same high school. Since B'ham is a liberal arts college home town, I'm sure, if Stewart accepts, there'll be a much sweeter reception.
Democrat supporters complain when Beck , Rush , O'reilly , Fox ?news? outlet and other republicans attack on democrats with their lies , deceit , BS and racist remarks but it has paid off for them.
They now own a conplete extreme right wing party which every person is join at the hip..
And with aid from democrats like Emanuel and the blue dogs which Emanuel has recruited , funded to run on the democratic ticket the republicans have a majority in the senate and house..
They have made their Red states a sure thing for election and they now have their republicans running on the democratic ticket as well as their republican ticket , which makes the election a win win for them..
Concerned Canuck will comment touting the moral equivalency of Beck and President Obama.
He's been on my ignore list for ages.
Why does no one tell me these things?
What do you care?
Took me second to get that. ys, excellent as always.
Drove you bonkers did it?
Major.
I just missed the cutoff by actually bothering to look how close I was to promotion.
didja?
:P
...it's a beautiful thing. I have only two people on my ignore list. I tried, I really tried to put up with their posts, but after years of reading the same, the same, rock-headed diatribes I finally had to just simply banish them from my sight and I have been much the happier for it. Every time I see someone reacting to their invisible (to me) posts, I KNOW I did the right thing as they are clearly still on the same trollish, stubborn, bullheaded track. I prefer to think of Ignoring them as less giving up than simply sanity salving prudence.
Denmark is just the host country for a meeting on the location 2016 Olympic games, but hey may as well be heading to Mississippi to ask southerners to move NASCAR to Chicago.
Denmark is a country now so white and far to the Right in it's extremist attempts to keep all non-whites out, the Right thinks we should start saluting their flag, a symbol of their perverted ideals of true 'Western freedoms".
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/New-EFL/message...)
Now?
LOL people say the darnest things.
don't know much about Denmark these days, but during WWII when the Nazis ordered all Jews to wear a yellow star, the next day the king wore a yellow star and soon almost every Dane wore one. They were the only occupied country to do something that brazen.
No, you only *think* the crowd numbered about a thousand in Mt. Vernon. It was much closer to at least a hundred thousand, all in support of Beck, of course. Just ask Michelle Malkin.
It was another "Million Moran March"
(math has never been their strong point)
or history, logic, geography, deductive reasoning, ethics, spelling, grammer, civics, sportsmanship or the Constitution.
Spewing hate and loading weapons - that they've pretty much got their PHD's in.....and inbreeding, of course, with the related subjects of adultery, pedophilia, and repressed, closeted, self-loathing homosexuality.
All in all, just more proof why they should not be allowed to have ANYthing to do with reforming health care. They have proven themselves to be unworthy of inclusion in formulating legislation which will affect all of us.
Spelled with an "a."
You're right: They don't have ANY strong points.
They're imbeciles.
BID
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/28/obam...
Some idiot "patriot" started a "should Obama be killed" poll on facebook...
treason anyone?
that's bad. should be stopped.
divide by 5
Some of his best friends are white people:
Rahm Emmanuel
Lawrence Summers
George W. Bush
Timothy Geithner
Ben Bernanke
David Rockefeller
Henry Kissinger
Dick Cheney
Zbig Brezenski
Nancy Pelosi
Harry Reid
Max Baucus
Olympia Snowe
Barney Frank
Prince Charles
Paul Volcker
Hillary Clinton
Bill Clinton
Just for starters....
yup...
. Himself.
. His mama..
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Just for starters....
...they're not "real white," like the "real Americans" who support this nutbag and every other failure-turned-political-celebrity (i.e. Palin, Sam the Deadbeat,et al.) who plays in the same echo chamber with them.
?????
You forgot Black Water.
his mother and maternal grandparents.
I prefer to be called Person of Off-Color
Thank you very much.
Hue-challenged?
n/t
Nice one.
melatonin adaptive?
... "Ecru" in the blank for race on various forms, but then they switched to multiple-choice option circles.
...who used to mess with those. My favorite was to fill in race with "Vulcan" or "Elvish". Ok, my ears kinda point...
Where it asks for sex I answer "YES"
trained the Pesident... " what did he mean by THAT?
... about the Smirking Simian's trainers and handlers.
Wanton Boy was nothing but a dumb-ass figurehead puppet.
BID
One of the really fun things about metaphors is the variation where you use words typically associated with a certain class of things, then apply that word to a different class of things.
For example, you can fry an egg on a hot griddle, and that's a very straightforward use of the word "fry." But if you say, "I was really fried last night," you don't mean literally that you spent time on a hot griddle.
In Sean Salazar's example, his use of the word "trained" sounds odd because typically you might hear a word like "educated" in the context of a highly educated man like Obama. However, in order for Sean Salazar to make Obama seem more like an animal, Sean Salazar used the word "trained," which we typically associate with the simple conditioning regimes used to teach animals how to sit, beg, go potty in the right place, etc.
Sean Salazar's dehumanization of president Barack Obama is quite intentional, and he will continue to use (and deny the significance of) dehumanizing rhetoric of this type. Now I will use a dehumanizing label on Sean Salazar: He is a Republican monkey. Since Sean Salazar is white, clearly I am not making a racist attack on him, but rather I am criticizing his lack of thoughtfulness, and his monkey-like tendency to follow the pack of Republican monkeys that ape the talking points of propagandists like Frank Luntz.
You are on it and bless you for paying attention to the right wing semantics. The way they use these words is key to their effort. Just like you note. Another thing to note.
One will soon discover they have their own language, dictionary, history book, media..you name it. Literally they are in another world from those not of their cloth. Even a simple word such as telepromter brings up completely different thoughts and emotions for them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7wYECUvLE0&fe...
(Hulu)
I noticed years ago that doctors went to "medical school" but nurses went to "nurses' training." And you can see it in literature too, as recently as the 1980s, where nurses were referred to as "trained nurses."
Perhaps he was making a veiled reference to the birthers' belief that Obama was taught in a Madrassa in Kenya meaning he was "trained" by Muslims. It could be a code word/ dog-whistle phrase for that side of the aisle.
But you are right, it is another way to dehumanize the President.
...he throws his shit!
"Why does glenn beck hate black people?"
Sure, it's a loaded question, but it would have been fun to watch the haters get all wound up...
at least not exclusively. He hates latinos, indians, gooks, and chinks, too...They've ALL "stolen his country," and he wants it BACK!
Re-word that sentence. I believe the new terms are "communists," "fascists," "racists," "illegals," and/or "radicals." Those are people that it's okay to say you hate. I couldn't have figured it out without my Glenn Beck Racist Euphemism De-coder Ring!
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CRACKER Jacks?! I see you clearly have a deep-seated hatred for white culture as well. lulz
your ovaltine!
http://www.radioarchives.org/annie/
"his country" for some years.
Though it wouldn't surprise me if he spanks it to "Leave It to Beaver" reruns...
sobs ecstatically as he does so....
sorry for the visual.
Lumpy?
Don't you just love the way all these teabaggers go around screaming how they want "their" country back? Who the fuck do they think they are? I'm a Chickasaw Indian and I certainly don't go around screaming shit like that. I'm sure the irony would be lost anyway.....
Hell, if I were a Native American, I might just say at this point: "You broke it, you keep it!"
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Chickasaw? That's from near Mumbai, no??? LOL...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmDeOPzzWU
and I don't mean the magic trick...
don't start screaming - these idiots will think you're on the warpath!
Who's Pete? :-)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,407894,00.html
load the questrion, pull the 'trig'(er)
...we would occasionally hear about groups of political wackjobs, like John Birch-ers or LaRouche-bags. It was an accepted fact that these people were a tiny extremist fringe and no one ever took them seriously.
Now, that "tiny racist extremist fringe" dominates the Republican Party. And rather than reject them, their elected leaders support, defend, cater to, and make excuses for them. They have an entire cable network dedicated to giving them legitimacy.
It's seriously disturbing.
when I was a kid in the 1950's. (yeah, I really am that old) I had just learned to read and I read everything I could, so I picked it up and started reading it.
I was only around 6 or 7, so some of the words were beyond me, but the hate was impossible to miss, and I had heard most of the ugliest of those words, even if I had never seen them written down before.
The more I looked at that flier, the dirtier and uglier it felt. I started feeling wrong just looking at it - it literally radiated hate.
It's been over half a century since then, but I still remember the feeling of holding that piece of hate-filled filth, mesmerized by so much anger even as I wanted to drop it and get away from it as quickly as possible.
Now I understand that these people really are mentally unbalanced, it's no joke. Just because they live around us and are part of our everyday lives does not make them sane - they are not.
They are addicted to their hate the way some people are addicted to sex. They are addicted to the chemicals produced in their brains by all their rage. That's why it doesn't matter to them if they are illogical or factually incorrect - only their rage matters, and keeping it going.
flying (on private property, I assume) right off I-4 and I-75 near Tampa, Florida yesterday. OK, they've got the right to fly it, but such a large display in such a high-traffic, high-visibility rather rattled me, and I'm a middle-aged white guy who has seen a fair amount of sh*t. I just thought how different the experience might have been if they'd been flying the Stars and Bars of the same size (and I'm no big "flag waver" of any particular stripe.)
... isn't the Confederate flag also called the "Stars and Bars"? Do you mean the "Stars and Stripes"?
BID
Haven't had enough
coffeegin yet...hanging up in my bedroom and at one point over my window, which could be seen from the street.
However, it was because the high school mascot were the Rebels. I'm not a prejudice person, but I have a strong aversion to stupid people.
That stupid flag served out its usefulness. It got handed down to my sister, then my brother... my future sister in law and then to my wife's nephew. Someone still has it to give my wife's other nephew when attends that high school.
Sometimes a flag is just a stupid flag.
Besides... I like to laugh at those that display the modern Confederate flag and claim it's their heritage. I have to remind them, that if it's heritage is what they want, they should be flying the correct flag. It just shows how truly ignorant they can be at times.
I live in Temple Terrace, which is just north on I-75 from that intersection. The flag is flown by the Sons of the Confederacy (or Sons of Confederate Soldiers?). The group was interviewed on TV. I truly loathe using the term "white trash", but honest to Cardea, that's the only way I can think to describe these people: sallow, sickly, pale, slightly hunched, stringy greasy hair under trucker caps... Wilbur Whatley of Innsmouth would be appalled.
It's a sign of treason and insurrection which cost the lives of nearly a million citizens, soldiers and civilians alike...
And the losers never took responsibility for their acts, never apologized.
Fuck 'em.
on a Fillmore bus back in SF in the '80s, before they all left for Guyana. Rumors were going around even then that they were a cult headed by a quack.
Strange and scary that people can still fall for that kind of craziness. It's also the thrill of the "Us vs. Them." Gives 'em a ready-made group toward whom to direct their hatred. They don't have to think (not their strong point), they just do it.
I don't think Jim Jones made it to the 80s.
once every decade back then...
It makes it easy to spot racists. Most racists (well, here in CA, where I live) hide their true feelings, and they only come out when they are drunk. But a rally like this? A perfect way to spot them. No matter what they say, they are racists. How do I know? For centuries, they have been in the super-majority in America. Now, with an AA president, and Hispanics verging on being the majority in several states, they are getting scared. Scared that the minorities will do to THEM what THEY did to minorities for a LONG time.
It's 1st grade all over again. They can't reason or think. Everything is raw emotion, and no THOUGHT.
...about their fears is that that it is all pure projection. They are afraid of being outnumbered because they think that they will get treated the way they treated everybody else who fell below a certain...shade of gray, shall we say.
n/t
spot on
I'm still trying to figure out what the "white culture" is.
Cottage Cheese.
.
Yogurt.
Mayonaisse - and it's French!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_pqnsKWlpc
(Hulu)
Country clubs, gated communities to keep the darkies out and of course we used to have tennis until those uppity Williams sisters came along.
What about that uppity Tiger Woods?
That's a whole other can of worms. He's all kinds of non-white. A true racist has no idea where to even start with him.
I think heads would explode if Obama was half black and half Thai like Woods.
married a leggy Swedish super model.
Racists will use sports ability as proof of why blacks were better suited to field work - i.e., "Look at that monkey run." (Howard Cosell)
It's funny, when the discussion is anything else it's always about the American marketplace, not culture.
Thassa too French.
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cream cheese
but it ain't exactly hurting for white folks in general.
http://www.transy.edu/about/history.htm
I suppose the vampires there are fangless and suck your jug of corn squeezins dry.
Funny I was just staying at that hotel by Safeco field a couple months ago. Just a block away under the raised freeway is an incredibly large homeless camp. It is really sad. Many of the people look like they have jobs as leave their tents for work in the morning.
These people only need to walk one block to see what American policy does to its people.
Do you know the one I'm talking about Dave Neiwert?
Get a life Morans!
when quoting in Beckistan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZoq3gPTgnE
(With apologies to the late, great Mr. Cooke)
Get A BRAIN! MORANS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRR6VSaaryo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpcUxwpOQ_A&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehKGlT2EW1Q&fe...
of Terry Moran, the TV journalist?
of "Happy Days" fame...
this kind of reporting. There's no arguing with them. They switched their brains off a long time ago. Just ask a few simple questions and you can clearly see how utterly clueless these people are.
It's entertaining and instructive.
of Null Studies.
Depressing is how I would characterize it. And a clear indictment of our educational system that folks can reach adulthood and be so incapable of rational thought and compassion.
that they should not be allowed to participate in reforming health care.
Have yet to fail me in their utter disregard and inability to see that what he's doing is just putting on a show, with little or no belief in what he's actually saying.
There is nothing like this anywhere else. Huge service to the community.
glen beck loves to be hated and he makes a good living doing it. i am sick of him. beck doesn't offer anything except cause and effect linguistic nonsense.
Glenn Beck is the new Tammy Faye Baker. I'm enjoying seeing the Right Trash knocking themselves out so early in the game. Maybe all that walking will work off some of those fat rear ends. They'll go through their grieving process and then rush to sign up for the Public Option.
he reminded me of somebody.
A little mascara.......hey! Has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time?
Maybe Beck IS Tammy Faye Baker!
Yeah, we need to paint him up with tons of eye shadow and mascara. Hmm...Orly Taitz kind of looks like her too.
look alike.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myu_wBPfpxs
Morons of seatle unite!
republicanism is a mental illness@!
makes my skin crawl.
I'm going back to watch the happy Montreal video.
click my heels 3x and say....." There's NO place like Canada.
There's NO place like Canada."
Not to mention the maternal grandparents who cared for him through his high school years. All. White.
There were a thousand people protesting Beck. That's the liberal mainstream media number. Actually there were hundreds of thousands. Maybe even 1784 billion trillion people protesting Glenn Beck!
It's tiring. So many people just dismissed Beck’s comment. . ...
He never said racist.
Well, okay, maybe he did. ...
How soon they forget or don't care...
They seem to have the attention span of a gnat...........
Hey ... pssst...... look, over here...X
He he he he!
of GW Bush.
It is Human Nature to be an apologist for those who one thinks is representing you.
They dismiss it because it doesn't matter. They think that Beck speaks for them and they are willing to overlook his comments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjp6Tqu5ttI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6tfGuVCtoU&fe...
..is "Does Glen Beck hate America?" And that goes double for Limbaugh, O'Reily etc.
none of them can remember Beck saying what he said. This is the danger of stupid. They're all riled up, but can't for the life of them quote the man who got them all riled up.
and wouldn't it be okay for Obama to hate all the white people, or all the people for that matter? I mean, if you have the highest job in the country, everyone else is working for you. And you know how workers always steal change from your drawers when they're dusting, or help themselves to food in the fridge when you're not looking, stuff like that. Shouldn't he hate all of us?
we're the employers.
In a big nation such as ours of 300 million people, it is bound to exist at least 60 millions who are totally fucked up stupid. Germany had 80 million when Adolf showed up.
the problem is that there exists a strong correlation between an almost total lack of information and strong opinions. the less these glennbeckbots know, the more self righteous and angry they become.
until fox news goes under, we're going to have more and more of this.
stay away with all those Beckerheads to service?
is 'why does Beck hate non-white people?'
his alchohol and drug adiction!
In fact he even hates GLENN
I know I've disliked them for years.
You're anemic-phobic
Or just against albino monks?
The guy did it all wrong.
he should have loaded the clip into an ipod to play for the folks who didn't believe Glenn said it. You know, to give them the correct context.
Could have been much more effective.
that asked if Obama should be killed? These people are nuts and hate not only our president, but our country.
I seriously doubt it's conviction of principles, if he can easily modify his stridency for a particular situation.....CNN or FOX.
Some good additional commentary here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spKr46-KPC0
Mt Vernon still has a hee haw logging town mentality , red neck Fox news watchers , you will not find the most educated and informed people up there .
Looking at the picture, after the photographer asked the
ten or so demented misfits that showed to bunch up for a photo,
challenged Glenny did schick!
Man what a f'88n joke!
Is this the America I served and fought for?
This is terrible, all those white people made homeless by Obama. Those poor white folks wearing those terrible decent clothes. Glasses, and decent dental work on those teeth. To be put onto the streets like that.
Obama is shameful.... How can Obama dothis to them?
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