Glenn Beck decided to repeat his asking-black-conservatives-dumb-white-guy-questions show with a new round, this time evidently focused on Harry Reid's remarks. Unlike the last time, there weren't any open embarrassments, except for the moment when Beck agreed that poor people are "like a domesticated animal [that] never learns to hunt."
But again, Beck hijacked the words of Martin Luther King Jr. He opened up the show with a King quote written on a chalkboard.
And it really is shameless. Conservatives nowadays love to claim King as one of their own. And it's a complete joke -- because when King was alive, conservatives were the people he had to combat.
Rick Perlstein described this some time back:
When Martin Luther King was buried in Atlanta, the live television coverage lasted seven and a half hours. President Johnson announced a national day of mourning: "Together, a nation united and a nation caring and a nation concerned and a nation that thinks more of the nation's interests than we do of any individual self-interest or political interest--that nation can and shall and will overcome." Richard Nixon called King "a great leader--a man determined that the American Negro should win his rightful place alongside all others in our nation." Even one of King's most beastly political enemies, Mississippi Representative William Colmer, chairman of the House rules committee, honored the president's call to unity by terming the murder "a dastardly act."
Others demurred. South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond wrote his constituents, "[W]e are now witnessing the whirlwind sowed years ago when some preachers and teachers began telling people that each man could be his own judge in his own case." Another, even more prominent conservative said it was just the sort of "great tragedy that began when we began compromising with law and order, and people started choosing which laws they'd break."
That was Ronald Reagan, the governor of California, arguing that King had it coming. King was the man who taught people they could choose which laws they'd break--in his soaring exegesis on St. Thomas Aquinas from that Birmingham jail in 1963: "Any law that uplifts human personality is just. Any law that degrades human personality is unjust. ... Thus it is that I can urge men to obey the 1954 decision of the Supreme Court, for it is morally right; and I can urge them to disobey segregation ordinances, for they are morally wrong."
That's not what you hear from conservatives today, of course. What you get now are convoluted and fantastical tributes arguing that, properly understood, Martin Luther King was actually one of them--or would have been, had he lived. But, if we are going to have a holiday to honor history, we might as well honor history. We might as well recover the true story. Conservatives--both Democrats and Republicans--hated King's doctrines. Hating them was one of the litmus tests of conservatism.
I lived in a conservative town in a conservative state at the time, and I remember how deeply and viscerally people hated Martin Luther King when he was alive. And for years after his death, conservatives fought his legacy. They opposed a national holiday in his honor (Jesse Helms, that conservative icon, launched a filibuster against the proposal). Even today, many conservatives believe the old Bircherite smears that King was a Communist.
I thought Beck had a phobia about Communists. After all, the allegations that King had "Communist ties" are about as well grounded as Beck's own charges that Van Jones was a "self-proclaimed Communist."
But I guess when they make for handy stage props for phony discussions about race with a carefully selected audience -- shows which rapidly devolve into whinefests by black conservatives about being pegged as sellouts -- he'll look the other way.
Now, I dunno about sellouts. But anyone who thinks "conservative values" were anything but a hindrance to the black community for most of this country's history is just plain ignorant.
Especially if you know anything about what Martin Luther King Jr. actually stood for when he was alive -- and who his enemies were. They were conservatives. And for them to try to claim his mantle now is a travesty and a joke.
This Beck character can't be for real... please tell me he is an elaborate comedy act.
Yes. yes it is. In the ending scene he will be weeping over his job.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
... except evil. Someone has got their hand up his but and someone else is pulling the strings.
Exactly!!
John McCain.
McCain?
toss out the dead wood - it's all infected and riddled with Republican corruption. Useless to us at this point. why in the world would you take this man's advice except to confirm what not to do.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
it sounds as if the same people, conservatives and Liberals are doing the same thing against the 1st black president in todays world. Are they all alive or are they multiplying?
the social democrat, would have recoiled in horror at the trillions lavished on Wall Street Obama's first year in office.
History won't revise itself all alone, Beck's gotta help!
He'a a Krusty the Klown wannabe.
Take away Krusty's good looks, intellect, charm and sense of humor and voila - Beck!!
Beck is trying to keep his act in the center ring of the Fox circus. Call the black President a racist one day and try to be a brother the next. I doubt he knows much more about Dr. King than my dog does.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Dear sweet spreadable Jeebus on a matzoh! Conservatives called him a communist and a menace to society. Growing up in Oklahoma in the 50s and 60s, I remember quite well how conservatives regarded him. More like the anti-Christ than anything else.
were afraid of Dr. King - until Malcolm X came along.
Yeah. King suddenly sounded ever so reasonable and moderate when compared to Malcolm and the Panthers.
The devil can quote scripture to his own ends. I'm sure his filthy little minions can quote MLK too. Doesn't Pat Robertson quote scripture all the time, too?....And didn't Pat make a pact with Haiti?
He uses beauty pacts.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
Matthew 10:29-31 KJV
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30 Then Jesus answered and said: “A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, who stripped him of his clothing, wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead.
31 Now by chance a certain priest came down that road. And when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.
32 Likewise a Levite, when he arrived at the place, came and looked, and passed by on the other side.
33 But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was. And when he saw him, he had compassion.
34 So he went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine; and he set him on his own animal, brought him to an inn, and took care of him.
35 On the next day, when he departed,[a] he took out two denarii, gave them to the innkeeper, and said to him, ‘Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I come again, I will repay you.’
36 So which of these three do you think was neighbor to him who fell among the thieves?”
37 And he said, “He who showed mercy on him.”
Then Jesus said to him, “Go and do likewise.”
Luke 10:30-37 KJV
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Obama's attempt to identify his campaign with Dr. King was shameful. And shameless.
King put himself on the line - his very life on the line - to help those on the very bottom.
Obama ingratiates himself with the rich and powerful - to the detriment of everybody else.
And the "liberals" go right along with it.
What has Obama done for Black people?
It's all about racism for POX Terror Theatre.
FOX is all about aiding and abetting Racism and Terror. what a despicable corporation.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Well, he certainly was on the forefront of civil rights when he bravely overturned "don't ask, don't tell" like he campaigned he would.
oh, wait...
Never mind.
... when you're dealing with an entrenched military mind and having to deal with all the negative flack about anything President Obama does.
From faux outrage about gate crashers, to racist cops, to teleprompters, to appears too often to appears not often enough &c.
In case you hadn't noticed, we still have 2 active battle fronts, an economy barely recovering, response to a natural disaster, response to a FAILED terrorist attack, and yet, and yet, ... you want to complain about DADT!?
JFC on a crutch! Yes, every thing revolves around this particular issue /snark.
Did it ever occur to anyone that after 8 years of bushco et al claiming the exec branch was all powerful and we all said no it's not, that President Obama is actually following the Constitution!? The 3 branches of Gov't are supposed to be co-equal.
Bush violated that, Obama doesn't.
WTF more do you want?
what the fuck, exactly, does he have to "do for black people"?
Obama isn't black.
So i agree on taking it to a civil rights points.
Since when?
Centre-right in most of the world is not associated with progressive tendencies, not by a long shot.
He is a nice moderate chap, no doubt about that. And a clear improvement over the previous barmy monkey. But that still does not make Obama a liberal. In fact I don't think he ever labelled himself as one. Right?
TIiz sounds like a troll to me. President Obama has a country to run, a country made up of a melting pot. He's trying to help everyone in our country.
And WTF is your specific problem!?
By winning the Presidency through a long and tough campaign, Obama has has positively affected the self esteem of black people(especially children) WORLDWIDE. His demeanor, dignity, intellect, status as a husband and father will set examples for African Americans for generations to come(I work in Chicago's criminal justice system, trust me, I already see Obama's influence on borderline delinquent young Black men).
BTW, Beck makes too much money for you to do his work for him...you know, ignorant, stupid ass questions.
despite the fact that he isn't black, he has had this impact, and i am very glad and grateful for that.
And yes it would be an ultimately stupid and moot thing to phrase the question "what has he done for black people?".
call? You wouldn't be pondering such a question if Obama were a common man on your local news busted for selling crack. I wonder if Obama considered himself non-black when profiled by police while driving in Chicago, when he needed a cab, or particularly being watched by security officers as he shopped on at a Michigan ave. high end store. I'm willing to bet that until President Obama reached a certain Social Economic stature, he was treated like he was black all of his life.
"You wouldn't be pondering such a question if Obama were a common man on your local news busted for selling crack."
what nonsensical babble are you talkin about?
Other than that, you may or may not be right about this "social calling" or whatever. Depending on total life experiences. More than likely, he wasn't treated as black and probably felt outcasted from all of his ethnic groups, as has already been popularly implied or documented often.
Not that you'd know a single thing about what that is. Or to put it in another way, we can just say: maybe he was treated "non-white".
Which makes perfect sense, as he's the first non-white president in US history!.
And it's not your Goddamn place to proclaim who and what another man is. As a black man I'm sick of you fucking Progressive bigots trying to make a point to remove the President's Blackness as if there's covertly something wrong with being black. President Obama calls himself an African American and that's good enough for me.
Btw, you have a real condescending attitude regarding race...you may want to keep your race opinions to yourself around black people...with health care costs so high.
Cool so you prove me right. You have no idea what its like to be multi-ethnic or a mulatto. Not that it was a difficult bet to make; although i will admit, i thought you were one of those white liberal "moral superiority" bigots at first.
"trying to make a point to remove the President's Blackness as if there's covertly something wrong with being black."
That is funny, as that comes directly after i just said that he's NOT white, and even gloated at the fact that he is the first non-white president in US history. I was trolling whites, if anything... Perhaps you misunderstood something.
In effect, all you show is you are trying to remove the president's "whiteness". Although i will just digress about the 2nd part of that sentence quoted for this case..
And African-American is what obama calls himself on TV. What does he really consider himself, where a platform to try and prove himself to various publics is no longer needed? His black father left him when he was young. His white mother grew him up, as well as her family and parents. He grew up in indian nations and hawaii, far removed from typical black american urban environments.
Personally, I've never even heard him quoted or say he considers himself "african-american". I do know that he acknowledged a bout to identify with his multiracial heritages during his younger years.
Regardless, that never changes the FACT, that he is in fact, bi-racial and multi-ethnic.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?ter.... The second definition. Nobody here is racist, except possibly you (unless you consider misanthropy racism, which indeed, is actually more linguistically apt than the accepted usage).
...and a westside community organizer who has known Barack Obama since 1996.
I'm done with you...you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Ok so thats great.
Am i being trolled? First you're black. Ok.
Now you're Barack Obama's wingman since 96'? Its getting a little harder to believe you.
You could have at the least just linked me some popular speech of his where he says "i consider myself African-American" or some such thing instead of implying you've talked hours with him on the phone.
Yes I have no idea what the fuck i'm talking about; i'm only going by wiki and whatever else is public knowledge of baracks history, including from his own biographies and during his campaign (which btw, i donated to). Blame your buddy then for misconstruing things about himself, apparently he's still keeping up those same antics in washington right now.
And again, you still have no idea what its like and are insensitive to the issues of being multi-ethnic.
Meanwhile, nowhere here have i crossed the line of disrespect to your own racial issues and your ethnic groups' issues, yet you have been nothing but flagrant. I even conceded that its a very good thing that Black people (the majority of, at least..) consider Obama as black-- despite the fact that it is outright false and "removes the Presidents real ethnic/social identity as if theres covertly something wrong with being a mixed race".
Being white, I can't say for certain. But I would think that if nothing else, he's helped raise spirits and expectations of minorities that they have the possibility to achieve even the US presidency. If Obama fails at everything else, this alone should remain as a success of sorts for so many.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
And maybe to pull their damn pants up.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
You need more style..
obama isn't black.
>>The bill passed the U.S. House on Aug. 2, 1983 by a 338-90 vote. The Senate approved it 78-22 on Oct. 19. The margins were veto proof, so Reagan had no choice to sign it into law on on November 3, 1983. Afterwards, Reagan was asked whether he thought there was any merit to Helms' Communist charge against King.
"We'll know in about thirty-five years." Reagan answered, referring to the voluminous FBI surveillance tapes on King that a court had ordered sealed until 2027.<<
If you had actually heard the tone in which he answered that question, it was clear that the "great" conservative Reagan didn't honor the man, but only signed the bill because he didn't have any political alternative.
Republicans and their supporters (typically, though not exclusively, minimally educated, racist, xenophobic, paranoid, selfish, greedy, delusional people) feel that the liberal elite socialist communist facist they think they're so smart types are going to hand their massive farm subsidies over to the Blacks and Illegal Immigrants. The fight over health care is represented by the Tea Party Movement which was organized behind the scenes by the Health Care Industry lobbies with RNC assistance - and the morons bought into the idea once idiot Sarah Palin started her lying about government death panels. You don't think that Guv'ment worker in Kentucky hung himself do you ? Remember what was written on the corpse's chest ? Fed.
I'm taking a test to conduct the census in my area. It should be a lot of fun. What with the IRS monitoring us for proof of health insurance and administering the fines in the event we don't have coverage, I'm sure people will greet government workers gathering information at their property with the utmost in hospitality and enthusiasm.
Fri, 01/15/2010 - 14:58 — kwt3200
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"racist, xenophobic, paranoid, selfish, greedy, delusional people"
I think those are just variations of each other; xenophobic would've been enough.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This upcoming election needs a big get out the vote effort for the Democrats to win.
Conservatives like to pretend that the racists are not affiliated with conservatives, thats why they keep pointing out the fact that the southern segregationists were Democrats. When you (repeatedly) point out that those southern dixiecrats all became Republicans in the 70's due to the southern strategy, they pull out idiotic claims like;
Now, this may be earth-shattering news, but the Southern Strategy was really about economics. When southerns figured out the Democratic part was no longer going to represent their segregationist policies, they no longer had a home, and Republicans felt it a good time to re-introduce them to all the other reasons to vote Republican. You guys have ACORN signing up dead and nonexistent people to vote - I don't see any problem with this strategy.
Here's the liberal NY Times's take (not some stupid, obscure blog by "Dave" - thanks), obviously whose left-wing bona fides are beyond reproach:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10...
The NY times article linked too was ony a short paragraph review of a book that claimed economics were the real reason's for the southern strategy, the poster also claimed that MLK was a Republican, because he doesnt think there is any difference in the GOP from the days of Lincoln to today (the blog by Dave bit was his whole response to my posting a link to Mr. Neiwerts blog Orcinus http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/01/mlk-and-...).
The above quote eventually led to the claim that black people dont vote Republican because we dont understand freedom or the Constitution.
Even when claiming that the real racism is on the other side, these people eventually start spouting racist nonsense.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
Just finished reading Curt Gentry's excellent biography of J. Edgar Hoover (one of the big daddies of modern conservatism) and Hoover hated King with a passion and tried to ruin him. So Beck using one of MLK's quotes is really disingenuous.
Obama the former community organizer turned politician and president thanks in part to the efforts of the Civil Rights movement has embraced and advanced two of Dr. King’s “triple evils.”
The “business liberal” Barack Hoover Obama has outdone his predecessors when it comes to serving the interests of (and transferring public wealth to) the Wall Street financial elite, who set new fund raising records to put him in the White House.
He has escalated the level of U.S. imperial violence in South Asia, “injecting yet more of the poisonous drug of hate into the veins” of the Muslim world as he refuses to admit that his nation’s longstanding petro-colonialism and Superpower terrorism provokes the Islamic counter-terrorism he seeks to rally the nation and world against (and which he uses to justify continuation of the Bush administration’s assault on civil liberties and human rights at home and abroad).
He has passed a record new Pentagon budget while tens of millions of Americans are pushed into economic destitution by his bankrollers’ profits system. This comes in cold and audacious defiance of Dr. King’s warning at Riverside . . “a nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death"
and insane= good republican.
What small part I saw of this was completely hilarious... beck, suffering from a cold or some swine disease (one can only hope), did his very best trying to 'be the black man's best friend'.. His attempt at trying to convince his viewing, knuckle-dragging audience, that he and they (by reference) were all brothers trying to beat down the vast, left-wind plot against all the depressed masses... what a hoot.. AND the biggest fake ever displayed - ANYWHERE!
ANYONE that believes beck cares for anything except his bank account is a fool. His family - trash.. His audience - just more trash... his 'friends' - just a checkmark... his employers - EXCEPTIONAL trash... - his banker - GOD..
Everyone with half a brain knows he's a racist.
I think becky is in violation of 12 and 13
http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,106...
As well as the 9th and 10th Commandments.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
...will Beckie-Boy see this coming Monday as an excuse for the same unbelievably lame and tacky stunt he pulled three years ago on MLK's birthday by referring to himself as "Mr. Oreo Cookie without the chocolate on the outside", despite the fact that most people Beck's age know "Oreo" is a derogatory slur within the African-American community?
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
If conservatives can claim Jesus as one of their own, why wouldn't they do the same with Martin?
It's well accepted that Jesus actually hated the poor and wanted everyone to be rich - TV clowns like Roberston and Osteen say that it's so.
And who knew that Martin actually hated black people and really wanted to be a rich white guy? And that his letter from his Birmingham jail cell was a cry for authorities to arrest more black people because MLK was lonely, and they probably deserved it anyway; and that the only true injustice, was justice?
Why, conservatives, that's who!
Delusion rushes in, where reality fears to tread...
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