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It is hard to explain to white people like Glenn Beck why their "innocent" questions about race actually just reveal their ignorance and their false assumptions about people of other races and the nature of race relations.

But Beck is so blitheringly un-self-aware that he decided to give it a go anyway yesterday on his Fox News show. As you might expect, it was a serial embarrassment.

Beck, you see, was careful to hand-select his audience, people "the media claim don't think exist" -- black conservatives! Not that he ever actually explains this to the viewing audience -- you have to figure that out for yourselves as the show goes along, like the moment when he asks the audience if they think we're headed toward socialism (they all raise their hands) or are accused of being not "black enough" if they are conservative (again, a unanimous show of hands).

And it let Beck lead exchanges like this, with Beck regular Charles Payne and talk-show host Lisa Fritsch:

Beck: How many people here identify themselves as African Americans? (About a third raise their hands) OK -- Why?

Payne: It's interchangeable.

Beck: But wait, wait. Why not identify yourself as Americans?

Fritsch: Well, people can look at you and tell you're black. You can't escape that.

Beck: Yeah, but I don't identify myself as white, or a white American.

Will Brown of the New York Republican Community Coalition points out, adroitly, that "African American" is an "evolution" from the "N word" -- and certainly is preferable. Moreover, it wasn't black people who invented the "N word" or the segregation from enjoying the full fruits of American citizenship it represented -- it was white people. "African American" represents the recognition of their dignity and their rights as Americans.

But this point sails right over Beck's head, because he's too ignorant to appreciate the implications. Had Beck even a smidgen of American history, particularly pertaining to civil rights, he'd know that white Americans for most of the decades of the past century used the word "American" and "real American" almost exclusively to refer to white people -- and that this motif lingers even today (see, e.g., Sarah Palin's references to "real Americans" during the campaign -- speaking before small-town, all-white audiences).

This historical and cultural ignorance just kept manifesting itself:

Beck: Because one of the problems that I have -- and I have to tell you, as a white guy, as a white guy, I'm just being real honest with you, as a white guy, I think white people are uncomfortable sometimes saying, 'You know what, Martin Luther King' -- and then quoting Martin Luther King, because, it's almost as if society says -- 'No no no! That's our guy! Not your guy!' And it shouldn't be that way. And so Martin Luther King, wasn't the dream that we're all judged by the content of our character?

Beck doesn't understand why it's idiotic of white people to quote King -- namely, King was speaking in defense of black people whose civil rights had been systematically and violently denied for over a century, and his words were spoken in that context. They weren't intended to be spoken in defense of advantaged white people who want an excuse to keep stereotyping black people.

The black conservative talkers he had on weren't a whole lot better. Perhaps the most outrageously ahistorical remark came from Fritsch:

Fritsch: The only way black people were ever able to triumph is because of conservative values, which is directly linked to Christianity. Had we been liberals, during the Civil Rights movement, nobody would have done anything!

Um, Ms. Fritsch, you need to avail yourself some history books too. It was conservatives who argued for maintaining slavery before the Civil War. It was conservatives who insisted after the war that blacks be denied the full rights of citizenship, and who erected the system of Jim Crow, who led rope-bearing lynch mobs that crucified thousands of black people. It was conservatives who erected "No Black After Sundown" signs at the city borders of thousands of American towns.

And most of all, it was conservatives who fought the Civil Rights movement tooth and nail. And it was only from the ceaseless efforts of liberals -- many of them indeed Christian liberals -- in opposition to conservatives, many of them Christian conservatives -- that anything was in fact achieved during that era. Somehow, you've managed to get your history completely upside down.

This idiocy reached its apotheosis, though, when Beck played for his audience that audio tape of black Detroiters turning out for welfare assistance funds, originally promoted by Rush Limbaugh, which was nothing more than a nakedly racist bit of ugly stereotyping on the part of the radio talker, Ken Rogulski, who produced it. As King Crimson observed:

The conservo-talk reporter cherry picked through the audio booty until he found the absolute best soundbite that would most perfectly frame the city as one filled with Obama-fawning morons, black Sambos, and greedy welfare grabbers - precisely, as Limbaugh would later argue, the kind of rank idiots who would vote for someone like America's first black president.

And if you listen to the woman making the "Obama money" remarks, you can hear that she's cracking humorously on the humorless, stereotype-dependent white guy asking. He -- and Beck and Limbaugh, by extension -- are the butt of the joke and they don't even know it.

Well, we actually know where Beck thinks this talk comes from:

Beck: All right. These are the people who have been abused by the system. They've been taught they needed the government. They've been taught to be slaves, and their master is Washington! Both parties!

For some reason, those weren't the words he used yesterday. Hmmm. Wonder why not, don't you?

This is just vintage Beck, gorging himself on dumbass white stereotypes of black people and then fobbing himself off as just a colorblind white guy. As we noted before, this is his way of race-baiting:

It comes prepackaged with built-in plausible deniability, of course. It's just a coincidence, we're sure, that so many of the targets of Beck's smear jobs -- Van Jones, Valerie Jarrett, Mark Lloyd -- happen to be African American. It's just a coincidence that those videos of ACORN, one of Beck's biggest targets, primarily are of African Americans. It's just happenstance that Beck finds scary black people under every rock -- even when they're just dance troupes.



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You can argue all you want that it was wealthy Southern Democrats that maintained slavery, but it was liberals that led the way to end it it, and liberal Republicans who did, a critter that doesn't seem to exist anymore and sounds oxymoronic.

and the flip between liberal republicans and conservative democrats (technically Dixiecrats) is no excuse, of course. But they'll sell that willful ignorance to anyone who'll listen to them.

I thought that the "flip" was actually the migration of the religious right from the Dixiecrats to the Republicans.
As I understand it, in the 30's and 40's, the Republicans were strictly areligious. They felt displays of religion in politics were gauche pandering to a somewhat narrow and provincial base. The Democrats felt Christianity was an underpinning of American culture, and could safely influence politics. In the South, this lead to the churches running politics, and what was called the Dixiecrats. (As I understand it, some politicians actually ran as "Dixiecrat" instead of "Democrat", and the party was nearing a split into a Democrat and true Dixiecrat party.) I don't remember the exact scenario, or the politicians who set things in motion, but the core Democrats were ready for a split, and thought it would be purging the party of the fringe the blocked their ideas of social stability and progress for the working masses. The Civil Rights movement of the 60's was the catalyst event.

One of the Dixiecrat leaders switched to the Republicans. The R's saw the opportunity to swell their base by a phenomenal amount, and the R's invited the Dixiecrats into their party. The Democrats thought the Dixiecrats would be independent, and would be a regional party of limited scope and effectiveness. They didn't think the Republicans would welcome them in.

As a result, by the 70's, the South was rapidly switching from being nearly solid Blue (Red in the cities, but Blue in the vast rural areas) to an unbroken Red. The Republicans maintained their political and financial stands to appeal to the urban business lords, and became the God party for the rural masses.

Fast forward forty years, and the fringe the Democrats purged because they were becoming a cult of religious zealots who threatened real politics, policies, and progress, have become the seething, frothing core of the Republicans. They have destroyed Republican politics, policies, and progress. The Republicans are a regional party of limited scope and effectiveness.

Exactly!!!

nuff said.

...why can't the democrats throw that one back in the republican's face? Bush was a socialist. Let's see he used the military (tax payer funded army) in Iraq and Afghanistan, he created the Patriot Act which was closer to fascism than socialism, he created the department of homeland security(what are we Germany? Homeland?) and illegally wiretapped American phone lines. Then he pushed for the bail out for wall street last year which runs completely against the notion of 'free market capitalism'. Hmmmm, if you ask me Bush is pretty much a socialist as much as he is a free walking criminal. And another thing...SCHOOLS, ROADWAYS, LIBRARIES, MUSEUMS, PARKS all funded by the tax payer for the collective good. I think we're already a little bit socialist so let's not pretend it's the end of the world you right wing whack jobs.

The framing of their reality does not allow them to see that. Facts are irrelevant. Bush was a Republican and Christian. That means he was good and just, as were all his works. Obama is a Democrat and Secret Muslim. That means he is and evil libhrull and terrorist, as are all his works. Facts don't matter, because facts conflict with the narrative spun to them by the acolytes and priests of their Glowing Rectangular God.

I don't get it. Are we saying instead of just Michael Steele thinking he's the magic negro Rush Limbaugh likes, that there are four more magic negros that think Rush Limbaugh likes them too? Hey, Rush will never let them on the golf course. Rush won't eat dinner with them. Are conservative negros doing this for money? Do they understand Rush's mentality at all? I don't get it. Do they understand the "magic negro" comment is derrogatory? Are they really, "for real"? And to be "hand picked" for Crybaby Beck?....what in the world is wrong with these people? They ain't magic at all.

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Q U E S T I O N:

WHAT DOES GLEN BECK MEAN BY CLAIMING THAT THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE USA, WHO IS A HALF WHITE MAN THAT PASSES AS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN, DOESN'T UNDERSTAND "WHITE CULTURE" AND THUS, MAKING THE POTUS A RACIST?

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He didn't say Obama "doesn't understand" white culture.

He said he "hates white culture."

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Even better...

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What is odd is how loudly and abusively they denounce culture as elitist, and claim what we have is a marketplace in it's stead, until it comes to holidays and perceived threats from "outsiders."

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Q U E S T I O N:

DOES GLEN BECK ASK THIS AUDIENCE HOW THEY THINK MICHAEL STEELE IS GROWING THE NUMBERS OF MINORITIES ELECTED FOR FEDERAL OFFICE IN THE G(no)P?

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[Quit posting in ALL CAPS-Sitemonitor]

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MAX,

Q U E S T I O N:

DO YOU USE AOL?

BECAUSE YOU'RE POSTING LIKE ONE OF THE GERIATRIC SET, AND IT'S HURTING MY EYES.

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Pretty desperate to jump on me like that.
What if I am geriatric. Are you an AGEST?
Andy, you can always hit "IGNORE USER".
Then, YOU will never have to read my posts again.

Thanks.

I can still read yours if you ignore me. I'd hope that you wouldn't, because I hold no ill will towards you at all.

And I was joking. For a while, you might recall, Amato was doing those AOL polls, and we'd get a flood of ALL CAPS AOL users commenting..."I FOUGHT HITLER! DEMOCRATS ARE COMMIES! GET OFF OF MY LAWN!"

But I'm not sure...But I wouldn't put you- or anyone else, for that matter- on ignore.

And, no, I'm not agist. Some of my best friends are older than my parents. I love miss_kitty, and she's like 83 or something.

;D

I'm only 82 and 3/4s and you know it, whippersnapper!

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I'll bet some of King Zombie Beck's BFFs are Negroes.

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"master of the undead damned..."

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Even though I'm whiter than becky, I'd be more like the hansom cab driver.

Conceited much?

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ys is always braggin on how hansom he is...

:D

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Yep...

these fellows really let themselves go!

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But actually, a lot black comedians and actors of the period were derided in later decades for their bulging eyes, and eye rolling and fearful natures in the movies, but I think in many ways audience members, no matter what their race, identified with this. They wanted to be like the heroic white lead characters, but knew they would probably be more like the scared characters.

Of course that was equating cowardice with blackness, but in a perverse sort of way creating a point of identification with actors of other races.

I had a debate with a film instructor concerning the original movie The Thing. He argued that it was a symptom of the times that the reporter was fearful, and ended up helping the military. I argued that the reporter was a point of identification for the audience who likely wouldn't identify with the macho military, nor the cold and determined scientists who wanted to study the critter, and like the reporter fall back on to the military's help.

He thought I was rather cynical about human nature.

did you want to be?

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The villain.

to be a giant walking carrot?

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I wanted the power over others.

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I was also editing it but was blocked. The scared black characters were often replaced by scared white characters, generally maids played by such actresses as Una O'Connor, or Patsy Kelly (the latter of which a couple of decades later would play one of the Satanists in Rosemary's Baby).

Beck prefers to call them "niggras".

... of that recording from the late '60s of a satiric group who did funny audio sketches. One of them was Lyndon B. Johnson's staff trying to teach him to say "Negro" instead of that other N word. He struggles, "Ni-i-iger-o" ... "nee...ger-o" and finally gives up.

I'd like to ask GB to go be a spokesperson for someone else.

the guy is definitely not a credit to his ethnicity (as in 'white') or his race (as in human), that's for sure.

He's an embarrassment to the entire white culture.

I understand Glenn wanted to know whether Cocoa Butter or Shea Butter is better for ashy skin.

Beck: But wait, wait. Why not identify yourself as Americans?

Fritsch: Well, people can look at you and tell you're black. You can't escape that.

Beck: Yeah, but I don't identify myself as white, or a white American.

Yeah Glenn this "American" friend of mine feels like he gets pulled over by the cops all the time for no reason.He drives a very expensive car and wonders if the cops are thinking:"How could an "American afford a car like this?It must have been jacked.You know?
It's like he's committed the crime of "driving while American" or something.

Clearly your friend is a drug dealer. How else could your friend afford a nice car? DWB.

I have a friend that is black, plays drums in a band and while traveling around the country they take turns driving. Care to guess who is the ONLY one who gets pulled over for no reason?

You know, I have been perplexed by black conservatives for years. Back in L.A. we had Larry Elders show on the radio, I never listened to it but I did hear bits and pieces of his ideas. And of course there was Thomas Sowell in the news papers, I've noticed that most of these guys have an unusual idea about conservatism, one that almost sounds reasonable until you listen closely to what they are really saying.
Here on Ft Huachuca I know of two real wingnuts, and they are both black conservatives. One likes to try and tweek me about President Obama's supposed slide to socialism, he does it in a ham-handed and stupid way though.
These are the people who will themselves use an old argument from Ann Coulter about how it was the Democrats who opposed civil rights, yeah thats true, and all of those Dixiecrats are now republicants, thank you Richard Nixon.
In out community we usually call people like this 'Uncle Toms', I dont think that is entirely accurate in most regards, I just think of them as conservatards and feel sorry for them being a part of a party that is only using them.

I sort of get Black Conservatism as it relates to Church and family and traditional values etc...it's just the rest of it I don't understand,like how any Black person could belong to the same party as Rush Limbaugh or the same party that scapegoats ACORN and other organizations devoted to raising folks up.

Well in that, I cant figure out why anyone would want to be a part of that , a Limbaugh republicant. I'm glad that it is only 28% of the population although I still think that number is too high as well.

Both groups hate their own people, and care only about their own interests...

Republicans regard black people as being inferior to whites, and gays as being less than human

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I should warn you now a new movement is underway, or maybe it has been there all the time and I wasn't aware of it.
At a elementary school meeting of parents the following was brought up by a white male individual ( the Ladies had us out numbered by 4 to 1 haha, Anyway he wants to know why there isn't a White Holiday because his children are confused. I another white person explained to him everyday is a White Holiday read the History books.
I suggested that he participate in these various Holidays and celebrations so he could explain to his children WHY these people are OUTSIDE the American perspective of people who contribute to America.
I asked him questions of various Black, Spanish, Asian and other ethnicities all of which he knew nothing of. Asked if he participated in any of the events his answer no, I again suggested he do it and celebrate America, his answer was we need a White Holiday. Need I say more. One important note I found that it is very useful to state you are a Military combat vet. retired or otherwise as this for some reason stops them dead in their tracks.
It is also a pleasure to respond to someone with correct political facts.

FREE OBAMA $$ for BLACK PEOPLE = BAD!!

FREE OBAMA $$ for WHITE PEOPLE = BANK BAILOUT

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No.

Joke.

The only thing worse the White ignorance to the history of Black People in America, is Black ignorance to this same history.

I can't believe the lady on the panel thinks it was conservatives who ended slavery. These people are support the very party that fights tooth and nail to prevent them from have any advantage in America at all!

Also I always hear these idiots talk about conservative values but they never say what those values are exactly. I would guess it's because those values don't exist.

Anyone want to give it a try? What is a conservative value? (and try not to use abortion or gay in the answer)

The reality is the party was taken over by robber barons, businessmen and bankers that called themselves "The Party of Lincoln". They did this to give themselves some credibility, but the truth is Lincoln would have kicked their asses if he were still alive.

Lincoln's law career is often depicted with images of Lincoln riding the circuit and skillfully defending common men, but when the guy got back from his one term in Congress he became a corporate lawyer, representing the rights of the railroads. He joined the GOP because they were the party of northern businessmen.

And it wasn't like Lincoln was an iron-willed abolitionist,and he certainly didn't espouse firm beliefs in integration. I'm not so sure that the Reconstruction would have gone much differently if Lincoln had served out his second term.

was a powerful icon to rally around, which helped give us Coolige, Harding and Hoover, the three jerks that brought us the Great Depression.

Grant, Hayes, Arthur, Harrison and McKinley weren't so great, either. Republicans all, too.

was my great great great... what ever, and even in the family he is known as an abysmal failure. Except for the mountain that was named after him.

House negro's is what they were known as, although in the case of most of Becky's panel, they would be too dark to be real house negros.
The party of Lincoln has been taken over by the heirs of Jeff Davis, as represented by the likes of Limbaugh.

I saw a panel of gay Log Cabin Republicans slamming Democrats and the left, and they were the same kind of sellout audience as beck's right wing African American audience..

So it's a bit ironic that they are not 'conservative' at all-in that they are very liberal in wanting to force their right wing views on everyone else.....Republican conservative would like to force their death-cult of Christianity onto everyone else....Every piece of policy, from being anti abortion. to rejecting science, to hating gays ties into their Christ-cult...

I reject their god..and I'm gay.
Conservatives despise me,and I despise them.

Snip - In 1899 Glass was elected to the Virginia state senate, where he was put on the committee of finance and banking. During his career as a state legislator, he was an active debater on suffrage for African Americans, the subject of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution. He supported restricting VOTING RIGHTS for illiterate former slaves on the theory that these votes were used by those in power to maintain their power. He also argued in defense of the Eighteenth Amendment, prohibiting the sale of alcohol. In 1933, however, he voted for its appeal on the grounds that it was futile to maintain a law that could not be enforced.
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Even as he worked to disenfranchise certain segments of society, he had a soft spot in his heart for individual blacks. In the midst of the fight over the Federal Reserve Bill, Glass made a special trip home to Lynchburg to appear at the manslaughter trial of his black servant. He took the witness stand, "swore that William was the best Negro that ever lived in the United States" and pleaded to keep him from imprisonment. When William was fined $200, Congressman Glass reached into his pocket, pulled out a roll of bills, paid the fine, then rushed back to Washington, D.C.

"Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."

--Albert Einstein

Beck's implication that the only hyphenated Americans are black is as dishonest as it is race baiting. Has he never heard of Irish-Americans? Or does he usually sleep through the week before St. Pat's Day? How about Italian-Americans and Columbus Day? Oktoberfest? Chinese New Year's? Cinco de Mayo (okay, this on probably terrifies him)?

"African-American" also carries a reminder of the slave trade. Most American Blacks do not know their nationality. Recent immigrants from Africa know whether they are Somali, Ashanti, Yoruba, or Kikuyu. African-Americans only know the continent that their ancestors were kidnapped from. Recognizing that past is as much a sign of their heritage as green beer giant pretzels are.

Good point on Irish-American, Italian-American, Polish-American, etc.

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I guess to boil down my movie references, if the black people or any other minorities have money, they probably want lower taxes, and pinkobait referred to the religious aspects, and additionally, since republicans believe we have nothing to fear but everything, can find a responding chord in anyone regardless of race.

I have to go swimming now.

The Mormon Church, of which Beck is a proud member, did not generally permit the ordination of Blacks until a change of policy in 1978. Yes, not 1878, 1978.

White Senators, Supreme Court Justices, and Presidents don't generally identify themselves as "White" for a reason. White is the assumption, and as such, unspoken.

Catholics residing in the Vatican don't generally feel the need to identify themselves as Catholics, either.

Some Jews in America identify themselves as Jews, or American Jews, or Jewish Americans. The horror!

Is Beck pretending to be a moron for ratings or is he in fact a moron?

Well, that explains a lot.

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I was raised a Mormon.

The stories of the kids put out to fend for themselves would give the world an idea of the 'family values' of the lds.

Steve Benson, Pulitzer Prize—winning editorial cartoonist for the Arizona Republic. Grandson of former U.S. Secretary of Agriculture and LDS (Mormon) church president Ezra Taft Benson. From a 1997 essay titled "Goodbye to God":

"To understand why I jumped from the Mormon wagon train requires an understanding of what Mormons are and how they think.... They really aren't much different from millions of poor, guilt-ridden souls who, throughout the march of human history, have hitched their hopes to mass movements of one sort or another.[Quoting ERIC HOFFER:] 'A rising mass movement attracts and holds a following by the refuge it offers from the anxieties, barrenness and meaninglessness of an individual existence.' ... Once I realized this, it wasn't much of a leap out of religion altogether."

oh? either fritsch is a liar or an idiot. (or both)

...And one day we must ask the question, "Why are there forty million poor people in America?" And when you begin to ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy. And I'm simply saying that more and more, we've got to begin to ask questions about the whole society...
Martin Luther King on racism, poverty, capitalism, and other big questions

Fox News- people make shit up, you decide

there like Beck. Did you all hear, a high school in a MS town Morgan Freeman spent some time in as a child was STILL holding 2 proms? Not a Boys' Prom and a Girls' Prom, but a Black Prom and a White Prom. They held their first Integrated Prom on 19 April 2008. Freeman had offered to pay the school over a decade earlier to integrate the prom, but was refused.

The prom that made history
Mississippi school dance at long last mixes blacks and whites

BTW, this is only getting national coverage in Canada.

They had another Mixed Prom this year, but also held a 'Whites Only' Prom as well.

Kudos to Morgan Freeman. Well done, sir!

the CBC. And really, if you google it, only Canadian news sources come up, and a tiny paragraph in an MS rag.

Proud to be an American, am I eh?

I'll sponsor you, eh!

;)

I want to move to Canada! Will you sponsor me too? And I have several friends who want to live there too! Will you sponsor them too? And our cats?

Come one, come all ;)

After over 40 years since the civil rights movement we still see stuff like this in this country. Sorry, I said pretty amazing. I meant pretty fucking sad. Knuckle dragging neanderthals.

thanks for the post Miss Kitty. Sometimes we forget the truth in this country when it comes to conservatives.

Dumbass!

Let's bring in a bunch of blackies as props to further an agenda. It really doesn't get much more racist than this segment. What's even worse is these people willing to sell out their culture for conservatism. They know history and the truth when it comes to conservatives. I wonder how much cash Murdoch gave these people to stage this disgusting display.

This would be like me appearing in a segment about the mafia supporting conservatism because my ancestry goes back to Sicily. Fucking pathetic.

I'm pretty sure my karma will suffer from laughing my ass off at that, but thanks just the same.

yeah it was almost too over the top for me too....but i make exceptions of this sort for beck

Beck shows clearly that there's a sucka born every minute.

(02:25 -)Roadblocks... which is directly linked to Christianity... as she points over her shoulder. :-/

Now how is Cap-N-Trade going to help our economy. Once again, they reveal their short-sightedness... why?

"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." --Albert Einstein

The only thing that matters to beck is his bank account and that he gets to talk shit everyday that pisses people off left and right and he doesn't give a crap. his family doesn't matter to him. he has no friends. he is despised at the aa meetings he attends if they even let him on...Rupe keeps him around because he makes fox money and enemies and still you dumbasses in the media give him even more media....

astounding...

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Beck's Beck. Enough said. But I'm always amazed by "black conservatives"...other perhaps than those who've made it big in the system but now want to turn their backs on everyone else. Top of the list for me: black professional athletes who suddenly become Republicans because they don't want to pay any taxes.

But in the black community I rather suspect few people take them seriously. I wonder how Beck would have fared with this get together had it been on BET and not Fox News.

And just part of the old "divide and conquer" approach to control of the masses by the few at the top.

The real distinctions/gradations in this country are of the socio-economic persuasion. But then, if poor white people and poor black people realized what it has always been true: that they have more in common among themselves than they do with rich white people (or rich black people for that matter). Then it would not be so easy for the rich to have the many fight for crumbs among themselves.

That is how the Southern Plantation culture prevailed: Most people in the south were dirt poor, wether they were white or black. There were very very few very very rich white people. However, the institutionalized racism allowed for the pitting of the poor black people vs. the poor white people. And thus making sure that any upheaval based on the sheer economic inequalities would be savotaged by the division among the people at the bottom.

That being said, given the history of this country... these black conservatives should be double shamed of themselves. But I assume, that just like their white counterparts, these assholes don't know or posses any sort of shame.

...then some will overlook it, and some will attempt to deny it.

It's left and right and in the middle, it's black and white and every color under our sun. It's global and it must play out... it's who we are as a species. With the superior capability through science and communication to perceive and react to future dilemmas according to our individual ideologies. We'll advance accordingly.

To whom it may concern,
Connect the dots, open your mind and think?

Sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong or some simply dislike the answer... where we run into problems, is when those whom have been proven wrong... refuse to accept it and carry on in err. :-/

I wonder what it would take to get him excommunicated?

... Obi-Wan Kenobi :P

Or maybe Mitt Romney... Harry Reid?

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He changed his name to Obi Wan Wasabi.

I think?

Back on-track...

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Shouldna be Beck on-track?

YS, given your former association with LDS, and your excellent gift for writing, I submit that YOU, YS, write a heartfelt letter to the powers that be to plead that GB is giving the LBS a bad name and he should be kicked out (excommunicated?) from the church (cult).

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Can't, I was excommunicated well nigh thirty years ago.

Load of Bull Shit?

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Funny thing is I have an ancestor who was an archbishop in the Anglican church in the 16th century, and he was excommunicated, and he died a short time later. He's buried in Westminster Abbey without any kind of tomb marker.

Even though I'm not Anglican, nor Christian for that matter, I sent an email to the website of the Church of Canterbury to see if there was any reversal process possible, but never heard back from them.

I probably didn't see him when I was there! I lurve Westminster Abbey.

What did you do to get excommunicated for?

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Actually by not attending church whilst I was in the Air Force, and writing a letter requesting it, and couching it with expressions of my beliefs that were taking more of a mystical nature, even before I made the conscious move to the Occult.

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I've felt a lot like this since then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK64upH1HMc

Was he implying there was something wrong with liberal African Americans?
Of course there was at least one Christian nutcase in the audience...

That was painful to sit through......Funny how Beck said poeple shouldn't be labled by their race...does he feel that way about Hispanics? Of course not. Hispanics are subhuman in his eyes.

Beck comes off as mind numbingly dumb....I think it's an act, and he really plays up the naive white dope persona, so as to appeal to an audience of white dopes...

I don't think it's an act. He is truly certifiable.

... the guy does have some deeply rooted issues and his mind seems rather unstable. Maybe is all the guilt from his alleged raping and killing of an innocent girl in 1990?

In all seriousness, the guy is just an uneducated bigoted prick. He should be thankful that there was a messup in life's delivery system, and instead of getting the life lesson he was supposed to have been administered via repeated ass kickings... he got a sindicated TV show.

Beck's racism her seems very passive aggresive- and he somehow uses ignorance as both a sword and a shield..

... plausible deniability being one of them.

Also, note that passive aggresive behavior (in the level and volume that a person like Beck engages in) is both a sign of a massive narcissitic personality disorder, and a manifestation of deeply rooted insecurity. Which is a formal way of saying what a gigantic a**hole prick Beck is.

As if it wasn't quite clear by now, Beck has some serious issues. The fact that he has a sindicated prime time show is rather troubling.

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Sat, 11/14/2009 - 20:15 — Tom Servo

Beck's racism her seems very passive aggresive- and he somehow uses ignorance as both a sword and a shield..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPQpjf6Wj_w

was my great great great... what ever, and even in the family he is known as an abysmal failure. Except for the mountain that was named after him.

Black conservatives and black Republicans ... something is VERY wrong with those people .

MLK

I have to disagree with David's post on one point:

it's idiotic of white people to quote King

No, it's not. It's idiotic of white people like Beck and his ilk to quote King under the pitiful delusion he would agree with them.

Ms. Fritsch must have gotten her talking points from the "Accomplishments" section of the new GOP.com web site. Reading it, you get the sense that the Democrats had nothing to do with civil rights, etc.

And speaking of GOP accomplishments, did you see the whopping two accomplishments of two-term president Ronald Reagan (tax cuts and "tear down this wall"), and the three accomplishments achieved between 2001 and 2008 during Republican control of Congress and the White House (tax cuts, war on terror, school vouchers for DC schoolchildren)?????

"why its idiotic of white people to quote King"???

OK there, bigot.

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Well, isn't it nice to know that blacks can also harbor anti-social, sociopathic, greed obsessed personality traits if the paychecks are big enough?

Don't we all feel much better now? Thank's Glennbo.

Why would anybody embarrass or lower themselves by going on the Racist, troop hating, Becks show???

Love that he says...
"I don't think of myself as white"

Very next thing...
"as a white guy..."

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