Ari Fleischer is annoying
From the comment section of C&L:
Fleischer on CNN Tue, 11/03/2009 - 19:16 — fastfeat
Can we finally nix guests, hosts that call the Democratic Party the 'Democrat' Party?
I'm truly sick and tired of the hosts being limp-d*&ked on the terminology.
Networks that cover politics should at least have their "experts" get the name of the party they are talking about correct. Is that too much to ask? I know we all at times say "Democrat," but there's is a conscious effort to smear the party by the Karl Roves of the right. Is it OK if every Democratic strategist and party member refer to Republican party members as "Repukes?"
CNN Democratic Strategist: Yes, well the teabaggers led by Palin and Beck with help from the Club for Growth chased away Scozzafava, a moderate "Repuke" in NY-23 and replaced her with Doug Hoffman, a much crazier 'Repuke.' Now the Repukes are involved in a bitter civil war which will bode well for the Democratic Party.
I wonder if that would be acceptable to Joe Klein of CNN. I mean, he does book the most vile right wing teabagger of all with no reservations.
Using "Democrat" means "I am a petty right wing republican" - it helps make it clear to us who is a partisan hack and who, although a republican, may actually care about making this whole country better and not try to tear it down via marginalization and grade school name calling.
It's like the stripe on a skunk - instantly recognizable.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Yes it does. It's like following the talking points. Given that the habit of calling the Democratic Party the "Democrat Party" originated with Rush Limbaugh, and he uses it at least 40 times per hour, I usually assume that anybody else who uses it has been listening to a lot of Limbaugh, and has probably sustained heavy brain damage. So there's not much point in trying to paper train people like that. They can't help it. It's like trying to train a stray dog not to eat out of trash cans or drink out of toilets.
Fleischer, on the other hand, doesn't have that excuse. He's not a brain-dead GOP back bencher from Stinkweed Mississippi who doesn't realize there is a world APART from the one in orbit around Limbaugh, like so many asteroids in orbit around Jupiter. He's evil, but he's also relatively sharp. I can only conclude he's doing it on purpose.
But at least Begala called him out on that on CNN once. And we have to give TWEETY credit for tearing a strip off a GOP Congressman who used the term on his show once. Somebody should dig out that old clip, it was pretty good! It was the one where a GOP Congressman is debating Barney Frank and uses the term "Democrat Party" and Mathews says "Do we have to go through this EVERY TIME!?" Then Frank defends his "colleague from the Republicanista Party."
No it didn't. "Democrat Party" has a shameful history of being a political epithet going back as far as the 1930s by Herbert Hoover. It was also used by Eisenhower and McCarthy.
Oh don't say that. Next thing you know they'll be defending it on the grounds of tradition.
i believe the term frank used was "republicanistic" party, which i find perfect.
I much prefer republicannibalistic...
Thankee very much
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I haven't heard ANY Republican appear on these shows in the past 15 years at least who has EVER said Democratic. It's absolutely amazing how kool-aid disciplined they are. No matter whether it's a fringy wingnut or just a run-of-the-mill Republican congress critter or rent-a-strategist appearing on talk shows, they all use that as an epithet, even the so-called moderate (sane) Republicans. If Democratic cats could ever be herded that completely, they could hold Congress and the White House forever.
This has annoyed me for quite some time. But as you've stated,the use of the term 'Democrat Party' is intended to be derogatory and automatically let's you know who/what you're dealing with.
The vast majority of 'Republics' are obstructionist assholes!
I hate it too, but "repuke" won't make it. Either "republic party" or'"whigs"
I think "know nothings" would work well, especially as the right would probably even embrace the term.
...an entire party made up of Sergeant Schulzes, but petty and mean.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
I think "Do Nothings" is more accurate
Ever notice how irons have a setting for permanent press? I don't get it.
Steven Wright
when caught saying it so I say back are you a "Publican"?
And that's the word I use to their face for them.
After all, it's just two letters....
Never mind.
...'Pubes' ..?
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
Yeah, that works. It's roughly equivalent, and like democrat vs democratic, it robs them of their adjective status.
I prefer "rePUB-LICK" with emphasis on the lasts 2 syllables.
In the time of Jesus through the fall of Rome, "Publicans" were tax collectors and handed out government contracts.
By the time of the Renaissance, the word "publican" meant a tavernkeeper (the licensed landlord of a public house), and by extension a slang term for a pimp.
"Publican" from Wikipedia:
"At the height of the Republic's era of provincial expansion (roughly the first and second centuries BC until the end of the Republic) the Roman tax farming system was very profitable for the publicani. The right to collect taxes for a particular region would be auctioned every few years for a value that (in theory) approximated the tax available for collection in that region. The payment to Rome was treated as a loan and the publicani would receive interest on their payment at the end of the collection period. In addition, any excess (over their bid) tax collected would be pure profit for the publicani. The principal risk to the publicani was that the tax collected would be less than the sum bid."
Corrupt, power-hungry pimps - seriously - what more do we need?
"refer to Republican party members as "Repukes?"
I just refer to them as assholes.
Nice to know that our side can be just as good as theirs where false equivalence is concerned. To really be equivalent, you'd have to say 'Republical' or 'Republicist,' or something like it. If their hosts were calling us 'Demoncrats' or the like, then "Repuke" might have some merit. When someone says 'Democrat Party,' it sounds ignorant and ill-mannered, but it isn't really demeaning.
We can be more clever than using "republicants"...
What I think would really be effective is to actually start and register a party named "Democrat" (maybe a single issue party to make it distinct - like a platform of getting rid of corporate person-hood) then make them differentiate ever time they say it.
No, it's not a false equivalence.
To them, in their dig by saying the "Democrat Party", they're saying to themselves that we're not "democratic", small "d".
I'm sorry, you're a puke if you believe that crap.
it is a slur, unfortunately they have a bit of cover - using repuke doesn't. I just hate being reactionary and stooping to their level but I am not completely that high minded!
No they don't. In educated, polite company, you should call people what they call themselves. It's a slur, they know it's a slur ... and they just feign ignorance, every single time they're called on it.
That's what I meant - "they just feign ignorance" that is my definition of "cover", how can you feign ignorance using repuke? - if we start playing their cutesy little slur game then we lose.
Indeed. If each host calls the first one of these people out the first time it happens, they likely won't be challenged again.
Kind of like teaching kids table manners. Or for some, potty training.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
They should be called out - but I think they are untrainable. Some kind of brain damage that never goes away once they think Beck/Rush/Bachmann make any sense at all.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Our schools are turning out functional illiterates as it is. We don't need to have elected officials contributing to the dumbing-down by constantly using a noun form for an adjective. As a card-carrying member of the Grammar Police, I find that deliberate ignorance offensive. If I were a Republic, I guess I'd say I find that offense.
Imagine if the Democratic Party had their own cable TV station to run their political adds 24 hours a day for free? the way the Republicans do on FOX.
if the Republicans can do it, then the Democrats should be able to do it too!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I prefer saying "Libs and/or Cons" when it comes to referencing 'right' or 'left'. Given the number of meanings of "Right".
CNN is harboring and coddling right wing radicals.
Most of the CNN hosts seem so nice. I guess they check in their souls at the door when they go to work every day.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Ari Fletcher should resign his bushie membership before he does himself any more damage.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
anything else.
He signed the contract. His soul is forfeit. He might as well get his digs in now, because hereafter? It's all demons and pitchforks for Ari.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
My biggest gripe is with the hosts of CNN and other the other semi-news network hosts not calling the guys/gals out right then and there. (I don't care about Fux; it's just who they are).
Really, how hard is it for the Gregories, Kings, etc to just stop the perpatraitors as soon as they make the slur? Their silence equals complicity.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
:)
Corruption favors the wealthy.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Wow...
...There's a news flash...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Am I the only one who's noticed that, since Fleischer has gone from geek-glasses to contact lenses, his head just looks like the tip of a giant penis? I think he should be taken off the TV for the indecency factor alone. Take him off cable news and put him on display in the Amsterdam Sex Museum.
There is a character in a comic called PREACHER named Starr who ran afoul the of main protagonist and got a slice carved atop his skull. Once it healed, well, let's just say he had to wear hats for the remainder of the run of the series (just a link to an image):
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Llxf0Z81zHA/SSH4THe...
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-c...
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Not even the first one. Ha!
Ari Fleischer is a freakin lite weight. a BUSH legacy.... flunkeee.
I wonder what it is like to be a Republican failure. Ari is a failure. Rove kicked him out of his job as Press Sec. because he was so bad.
...I imagine he's waiting for his promotion in some other wing of the Party of No.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Ya, where's his "keeper of the lies" trophy?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Fleischer has always been annoying. I take solace in realizing that he has had to go through life with a head that looks like the tip of a penis.
By the way, Joe Klein is an amateur compare to Alan Colmes. That Uncle Tom gave Randall Terry an open mike for a half hour last week.
Republicans are first and foremost unpleasant - even the nice ones. Everything else stems from there - the hate, the lies, the bigotry, the violence.
Yes, the Republicans are often impolite, irritating, agitated, impulsive, destructive, but they are always unpleasant.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
...to demand that Fleischer STFU with that "Democrat Party" bullshit. President Ted Bundy truly put together the greatest collection of assholes in U.S. political history...a dream team of assholes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J15ipV3S0oA&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyMHQ9AEpX8&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfC0Rr3mhZU&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y6kAejCjTA
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
as I tend to wake up at like 3AM, and it's about the only thing on at that hour. I actually saw two episodes I'd never seen before the other AM.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
:)
One of my faves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtW6cUaPV0
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Just for the halibut:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUQQUJhxx7A&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
we should caall them what they are. "REGRESSIVES."
This one, I like.
It's right up there with whatever and anyways....anyway(s)....You know what I'm sayin!
But I guess that is the purpose, like nails on the chalkboard.
Is anyone a professional anymore?
...only Mr Pink.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
There's no such thing as the "Democrat Party" and these snarky A-Holes know it. It's rare that you'll hear an interviewer make the correction. The term was resurrected (from a much earlier time) by Senator Joe McCarthy. Ever since Limbaugh, Hannity and the right wing cabal have been using this term, unoriginal "ditto heads" like Fleischer have been using it too. Whenever I hear someone say the "Democrat" Party, I quickly remind them that they are carrying on the legacy of a loathsome, worthless, slime ball like Senator Joe McCarthy. Very appropriate for the GOPers.
That goes without saying
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Then call them Repiglicans, or Repuggs, or Repyooblic, or Bugsuckers, or Defiglicans... or just DumbFucks.
Yes, this annoys me as well. "Democrat" is a noun; "Democratic" is the adjective form. Limbaugh does this all the time, referring to the "Democrat party," the "Democrat bill," etc. And idiot repukes like Bachmann, Cantor, and many others take after his lead. I've seen Chris Matthews correct someone once on this, but a few weeks ago, he let it slide, so I sent him an email telling him he needs to call these people out for their misuse of the English language and for the disrespect these repukes are showing. It's not just the fact that they're misusing the English language; it's also the fact that I've seen on some right wing blogs people referring to the "DemocRat" party.
Rushthugliklan sums it up.
Forget terms and terminology - they can't get a simple fact correct.
Off button!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
...we need a dictionary. how many parties are there anyway?
Pick yer poison! (so many choices)
communist
independent
Neo-Con
green
fascist
teabagger
socialist
libertarian
liberal
progressive
democratic
constitution
republican
neo-nazi
blue dogs
Hooray for vocabulary!!!!!(what are you? ....mix-n-match?) I'm a "liberal teabagging libertarian" who is a fan of the constitution.
I think behind the scenes (in reality) ...there is only one party in control of OUR govt. ...and it ain't (yours truly)
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
There's an excellent Bill Hicks clip I'll try to dig up that nails this.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
...me some Bill Hicks (mouth watering) (bit chomping)
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2_MntkMzg&fe...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXpdJLJqG9U&fe...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRykTpw1RQ&fe...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
annoying?? Is that the best word you could come up with? (No need to answer, I know why.) When you look up "Asshole" in the dictionary there are photos of Karl Rove and Ari Fleischer amoung all the other Repukes.
I'd looovveee to see ari head debate this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81k_34ouQhM
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
That Lush Rimjob; what a wordsmith! Although why he calls his enemies handsome cabriolets is strange.
Dittos like Ari Goebbels, Dodo Merino, Shun Honesty, Shrill O'Really et al consider this snappy truncation witty, like pissing in the sand box.
They are a network of extremely ignorant bigots (EIB)and they've converted the GOP into gory, odious pubicans, or just pubics.
In the time of Jesus through the fall of Rome, "Publicans" were tax collectors and handed out government contracts.
By the time of the Renaissance, the word "publican" meant a tavernkeeper (the licensed landlord of a public house), and by extension a slang term for a pimp.
"Publican" from Wikipedia:
"At the height of the Republic's era of provincial expansion (roughly the first and second centuries BC until the end of the Republic) the Roman tax farming system was very profitable for the publicani. The right to collect taxes for a particular region would be auctioned every few years for a value that (in theory) approximated the tax available for collection in that region. The payment to Rome was treated as a loan and the publicani would receive interest on their payment at the end of the collection period. In addition, any excess (over their bid) tax collected would be pure profit for the publicani. The principal risk to the publicani was that the tax collected would be less than the sum bid."
It's a good thing the GOP is made up of ignorant idiots who don't know history or they would have suggested this system of taxation already.
Thanks for the definitions.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"Is it OK if every Democratic strategist and party member refer to Republican party members as "Repukes?"
I have a better idea - from now on, let's all call them "Re-pube-lickins"... It could be spelled the same as they do, but simply mispronounced!
With their far-right, extreme Christian outlook, it should make their heads explode...
[I may just have stuffed cotton for a brain, but even I know this is just wrong...]
As I do find them repugnant.
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