Focus on the Family sinks to new lows on Dr. Tiller
By John Amato Wednesday Jun 03, 2009 9:00amTony Perkins of Focus on the Family paints a grim picture on Dr. Tiller. He's attacking Kathleen Sebelius' nomination, but as Scarce told me, he painted a target right on Tiller's back.
As many times as BillO and Phil Kline tried to disrupt him, Tiller continued to perform what he considered a necessary service to the protection of the mother. Women are always the target, they have rights but these rights are infringed upon without a second's thought by the leaders of the religious right and men in power.
I wrote the above portion two days ago, but I wasn't going to post it, but then I received a sick e-mail from Citizen's Link, a part of Focus on the Family.
'Killing is never the answer, whether it’s an unintended pregnancy or to stop abortion.'
Nebraska abortionist LeRoy Carhart says George Tiller's abortion clinic in Wichita, Kan., will reopen Monday. Carhart, who was at the center of the U.S. Supreme Court decision on partial-birth abortion, has been helping at Tiller's clinic for more than 10 years.
But the family said it has not made a decision about the long-term plans for the clinic, after Tiller was shot to death Sunday.
"The Tiller family's focus, of course, is to determine what is in the best interests of the employees and the patients," the family said in a statement.Carrie Gordon Earll, senior bioethics analyst at Focus on the Family Action, said it's clear what is in the best interest of the patients. "Killing is never the answer, whether it’s an unintended pregnancy or to stop abortion," she said. "We’re speaking the truth about the precious lives of these preborn children. And, despite this tragedy, we are not going to stop."
Maybe the clinic might feel it's in the best interests of everybody staying alive since Dr. Tiller was murdered. He hasn't even been buried yet and FOF is attacking the clinic and talking about the best interests of the patients. Not a word about the women who go there. Cretins.
We see how much his murder has affected them. They've created new words like "preborn," so I imagine they've come up with something like protecting the rights of the "thoughtborn" children, although they wouldn't say it in public. That must be the thinking process they have when they refuse to engage in contraception, sex education and the Plan B pill. We have to protect the rights of the thoughtborn because somebody has to.
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I hope you'll counter this footage with http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/1/dr_georg...
or
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/6/3/tiller_s...
Check the Hate Monger out, believes in a Book of Fairy Tales a Ficticous Spreme being. Noitice the Love for the Fetus and the ABSOLUTE HATRED and DISTAIN for the CHILD.
Yep, once their born they are on their own. We don't want to pay taxes to support them. These people are worthless.
Focus on the Felons!
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Q U E S T I O N:
What did Christ cheer for, when the people sought to stone the prostitute?
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He was happy because she turned him down the night before?
The President needs to schedule a speech, on national tv, and the hell with deregulation...mandatory time set aside by every network and cable station...to discuss violence.
He doesn't need to make ANY statement about abortion. He need only talk about violence, the rule of law and that those who break the law will be punished within the parameters of the law. Personal value systems do not justify murder, terror, arson, etc. The law is the law...and everyone within the confines of this country is subject to it.
I think you are on to something. I wish he would make a speech like that. It is what is needed.
The Right Wingers will go crazy, of course, but they will also know exactly where they stand, and so will main most of the rest of the country.
And while he is at it he can tell us how taking over the banks and GM and about half his programs fit under the LAW, the US Constitution. I don't doubt he can do it. He has everyone convinced he is wise, all knowing, and divine.
It is interesting that you liberals call the conservatives hate mongers but if you read this blog and all the others it looks like there is plenty of hate to go around. You might even have the edge. What we're are lacking is intelligence.
It's these scum sucking, bottom feeders that turn me off on christianity. They use the name to lift themselves up into the clouds in the minds of themselves and their moronic worshippers.
When are these pieces of shit going to receive their own medicine?....exposure slanted to the anti-evangelical nut case movement. Then we'll probably see some Satanic types out killing these innocent scub bags.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
of Christians don't fully appreciate is that the "inerrant word" types know no bounds. It is just as evil to them that a morning after pill exists, or condoms. In fact, the Bible states that God killed Onan for attempting to practice birth control. The murder of doctors is just the thin edge of the wedge. They want a theocracy, and would rejoice in the overthrow of the government.
how many times did he command his followers to "rend the babies from their bellies?"
... see, it seems god has to ask permissions to the Pharaoh to let "his peeps" go. But has no problem killing first borns, bringing forth all sorts of plagues, and parting the seas on demand.
Oh, and all the babies he killed during the big flood, Sodom, etc, etc...
do you find mystifying?
It's that circular argument: God can kill because he's God, and since he's God, he's always right.
Very mysterious.
... it seems god is all powerful, then why the f*ck did he need to ask the Pharaoh for permission?
And why did he decided to take his "peeps" on a 40 year yourney through the desert.
Historical records place Jewish settlements in North East Egypt, no where near the red sea. They could have literally walked from that part of Egypt to Judea in literally in a couple of weeks or less, without ever having to cross any major body of water. And that is assuming a very leisurely pace and stopping to see most major attractions with the family.
So either god is a douche, or he is not good with maps... and too thick headed to stop and ask for directions. That 40-year periple through the desert must have been the world's longest "wrong turn."
He certainly didn't seem to know anything about the America's.
It's to teach people "valuable" lessons or so I was told.
Moses was a guy...and you know how guys hate asking for directions.
We need to call these people and their fringe-extremist groups by their proper names, once and for all.
Tony Perkins is a Terrorist, so I expect him to spout these extreme words of hatred, venom, along with the promotion of violence and murder. Perkins is a Terrorist who may look nice in a suit, and talk as if he has mainstream views. This is just a facade, because these people call for more hate and violence behind closed doors, and away from the media cameras. Behind closed doors these people are popping champagne bottles with smiles and enthusiasm that Dr. Tiller was killed. Behind closed doors they hope for more murder and death and violence. They are no different than the Manson Family was back in the 1960’s.
So, yes, Tony Perkins is indeed a Terrorist, and Focus on the Family should be seen as just another Fanatical Right-Wing Terrorist Organization.
I expect the Focus on the Family Terrorists like Tony Perkins to justify these extra-judicial murders. These people’s reasoning is no different than Charles Manson or the Manson Family in the Sharon Tate-LiBianca murder’s in 1969.
People like Perkins and his pals at Focus on the Family should also be committed to the nearest insane asylum. This people are, in fact, diseased.
Aren't miscarriages god's abortion?
Over my dead body they turn this country into the Christian Republic of America. Complete with their Christian Revolutionary Guard.
And if they think that'll be easy, they can try to off me at school before the eyes of about 20 lawyers, that won't be happy that someone tried to off one of their students. Or they can try to get my at my house, where I keep a Lee Enfield with two loaded stripper clips near it.
should take the Norman Bates School of Hotel Management course and practice on himself.
Bates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0ad62tlAQ
One big hole in their thinking is, what about the rights of the pre- citizen immigrants. No, they haven't reached our country yet but deserve all the consideration of a full fledged citizen. How can we deny rights to the un-citizen?
PRE-citizen. ;-)
I remember watching James Dobson giving his fatherly advice in one of his focus on the family segments 20 years ago. At first it seemed like basic, decent christian advice until one segment, I knew something was wrong.
He was admonishing parents to never, ever let their daughter ask a boy out for a date. This would be a terrible thing, and very crushing to the boy's psyche and self-esteem.
I was speechless and realized at that point, FOF was an organization of loons.
Wow, I would've LOVED it if a girl had asked me out when I was a teenager! (Actually, if I wasn't married, it would be nice now, too.)
out in high school.
I still remember her fondly.
We still talk to this day.
I still blame my perpetual adolescence on that day you asked me to the Sadie Hawkins dance.
I mean sure you ask a girl out she says "No" and like, you've all been warned. When you grow up hearing (and seeing) guys
will fuck anything andare a lot less choosy than women, and you are declined...pretty much ends any repeat, if you are a sensitive about that stuff...So, miss kitty, when you were in your teens, you were nervous about asking the opposite sex out because you were worried about rejection and embarassment??
Well, welcome to the male club!! :)
as an ADULT.
Guys did not ask me out in HS. And I really wanted no part of the guys in my HS. Too Frat boy. the one hippie guy I had a crush on there -- not reciprocal...
Like I said, we all know women are choosy and guys aren't (speaking from a biological standpoint, of course), so as I said, as a woman, being told no by a guy, is uh-I think all of the sudden, even though guys are hooting and hollering out of car windows at me a few minutes earlier, all I could think was "What kind of an ugly pig am I?"
I just won't reveal myself first, ever again.
You seem pretty cool and sure of yourself here..
I asked a guy out in high school and was rejected. He's now one of my best friends...and is living with his life partner and their two children.
Sorry your experience made you feel crummy. High School Boys do, sometimes, grow up and appreciate smart, cool women. Good luck.
Really, those guys were pigs.
Again...sorry you had to go to school with them..
We had them at our school too...I always take comfort in the fact that the ringleader at our school ended up bald and fat by 35.
Back when I was a teenager I had a huge boost to my ego when this girl asked me out.
that was 'boosted'?
:D
Amongst other things...
When O'Reilly was on some kind of rant about the "threat to The White, Christian, male power structure"? (He left out straight and racist for some reason.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYmnSRLJkt4
In my opinion people like the oaf in this article are what Billo was defending in that clip.
The White, Christian, male power structure"... maybe one of the trolls would like to explain what that is and why the rest of us should bow down to it. I guess I'm left out of the "power structure" because I only meet two of their three standards... I'm white and I'm male.
White Christian Male power, then he ought to worry about the short tempered, psychotic, East Asian women coming into this country. My mom would kick the shit out of him if he said anything to piss her off to her face. I've seen White Christian Males getting bullied by their East Asian girlfriends.
(Sniff) So courageous ...
run right out and send them a hundred or two, eh?
what?
Bioethics Analysts prove they are with the program.
I'm saving all my donations in my roommates closet...and hoooo-dawgies is she pissed.
Carrie Gordon Earll, senior bioethics analyst at Focus on the Family Action, said it's clear what is in the best interest of the patients.
How do you think she got this job?
I never was pre-born
Just pre-reincarnated.
Good thing you weren't pre-mie. (sp?)
Actually I was.
They expected me to die within a few days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flcv_TnH7Mk&fe...
I'm glad to hear you didn't die ys.
Sorry about the premie comment.
At first I thought you were asking if I was an innie or an outie.
long ago.
So that must mean you were also POST-reincarnated????
They went postal.
is not on my post modern conscience.
A post-born, post-Christian, post-awarded Bachelor's Degree, pre-Bar card carrying, pre-death person.
How can anyone take them seriously or understand them at all when they claim to want to prevent abortions and yet "refuse to engage in contraception, sex education and the Plan B pill"? And I hate to break it to them but humans are human and enjoy sex so their silly little abstinance idea isn't exactly helping any. And neither is their homocidial rhetoric. If they truely cared about preventing abortions(instead of preventing a womens right to chose) they would be very firm supporters of sex education!
For them, a fetus is nothing more than a pawn as they desperately cling to their dwindling political influence. So what do they do? They appeal to the emotion as opposed to the reason. How do they do it? They find a class that they can convince people as the most vulnerable. The majority of people like Perkins here are some of the most morally despicable people in our time.
The fact that they don't truly care is reflected in the fact that in the case of an unwanted pregnancy, they don't offer services to compensate the woman during pregnancy and that they would find parents willing to adopt, as an alternate to abortion.
This is all about controlling other people's sex lives, but unlike Thomas Malthus, it's not just writing books about limited assets. They try to prevent sex education, birth control, even talking about such things in foreign boards and seminars, sexual positions, what's "perversion" or not, and earlier trimester abortions, as well as RU-486.
They're trying to keep their hands in sex.
They're trying to keep their hands in sex.
Maybe that's the only sex they get.....
They don't even get that. Pleasure is sinful and you should only fuck for procreation.
Focus on the Family, but not the ones they don't like.
http://joshandjosh.typepad.com/josh_josh_are_...
http://second-parent-adoption.com/images/2nd-...
http://aycu33.webshots.com/image/38352/200417...
Each of them told tragic stories of their late stage abortions and how their doctors told them that their babies organs(one didn't have a functioning brain) were so defective that the children would die upon birth. One woman said that the reason that she had an abortion during the third trimester was because her Pastor and church advisors forbade her under any circumstances to have an abortion. After agonizing with her spouse, the poor woman simply made a difficult decision to abort a fetus that had no chance to survive.
cojoined twins, only one of which stood even a small chance of survival and then faced a short life of multiple surgeries, organ transplants, and pain.
maybe it was g*d's plan to have Dr. Tiller ease the suffering of mother and child by providing such medically necessary services?
And there they go fucking up g*d's plan (thank you George Carlin!)
only of their own selves and their sociopathic need to control.
the country from God's wrath. They are both patriots and doing God's work...
http://famguardian.org/Subjects/Life/Abortion...
One of the Ten Commandments was:
Thou shall not use the Lord's name in vain.
By pulling the shit they've been pulling and claiming it all in the name of God is doing exactly that.
I also recall a passage in the Bible where Jesus told his followers something to the extent of:
If you go into a town to preach the Gospel and no one listens to you, leave the town, and at the outskirts of town brush the dust from their feet so they don't take any of that town with them on their travels.
Certainly sounds contrary to what these faux Christians are saying and doing. These people aren't doing God's work, they're doing Satan's work.
why isn't he the one doing the smoting??
Actually, if there IS a god, why is he creating severely deformed fetuses that won't survive outside of the womb in the first place??
narcissistic need to be worshipped. If he exists, he is completely insane.
I'm pretty sure that he bares little resemblance to what most people think he is. If he exsists, I prefer to think that he is the God that made the Mountains and the Seas. The God who made Sex so awesome that you call out his name. The guy who puts a light in the eyes of the people who love you. The one who instills in all of us a need for pleasant sounds, free movement and creative expression.
I think that all of the negative aspects of "God" are the wrong headed reflections of people so afraid of being human, that they feel the need to imagine a smoting God. That must be a miserable life to life. I know that it is sure miserable to watch them living it and trying to impose it on others.
A) God grants free will.
B) God works in ways we can't understand.
Both of which are cop outs in my opinion. If anything I would say God has ADD and has long forgotten about Earth and all of us here. For him this probably nothing more than a cosmic game of Sims and he went and clicked on "New Game" a few centuries back.
One more to add to our list of domestic terrorist organizations. so when can we expect the feds to treat them the way they have similar Muslim groups?
and leave the rest of us alone.
The problem with that is that when they bother to focus
on their own families, it's to rape their daughters.
they take them to get abortions.
My step mother was a psych nurse in KS....and unfortunately, they do make a lot of them have the children and give them up to either, 1)other family members...or 2)outside adoption....
memorable family discussion...13 year old..raped by her step-brother...made to carry her baby to term...adopted, with her knowledge, to her step-sister and her husband....The girl wasn't even told that the "disease" that she had was pregnancy...she thought she had stomach cancer....until she was "viable" at 20 weeks.
Genesis 19:8
Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=G...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdD6L4cKKU8&fe...
Genesis 19:73
Here...take my virgin daughters, but not my male guests whom I barely know.
Was Lott so pissed because he wasn't invited to the party? or what? Maybe he was kind of like Dina Lohan....A stage dad with a sick obsession to live off his kids.
...how their professed reverence for life ends at the moment of birth.
There are children abused by unfit parents, orphans, children being forced to fight wars, children being sold as sex slaves or for slave labor and what do the Christianists care about? Fetuses. I don't see any of these groups trying to promote adoption, I don't see any of these groups lobbying the government to take more steps in human trafficking where children are involved. I don't see these groups trying to lobby to get involved in civil wars where either side is using child soldiers.
Instead they come up with terms like "pre-born" to differentiate a fetus or an embryo from a child. Their actions are no diffrent than a parent telling their child, "I'll love you till you're 18."
They also don't really care about non-white babies either, unless it is election year, and they can use the arguement the Margaret Sanger was an advocate of Eugenics, as a means to sway the brown vote.
Should I decide what is best for me (since it is my body and my life)? Or should I let some religious nut case- self-appointed morals police make the decision for me?
Why do religious nuts feel the need to control people so much????
You can choose, as long as it is only a choice I would make and I approve of.
What is it they fear about choice?
Here's a thought:
Live in peace and stop trying to change everyone to the way you or your religion sees fit. To each his own.
And if you can’t -Carrie Gordon Earll I’ll see you on the streets with a sign that protests your views….I won’t stop fighting for my rights either.
Has any of the men accused or convicted of killing or wounding people who work in abortion practices fathered any children of their own?
tony perkins needs to abort himself.....
The even more rare "4th trimester" abortion. Use only to safe the lives of countless innocent Americans that may be killed as a result of a Christian Mullah who fans the flames that would kill others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aclS1pGHp8o
We need interest group on our side to counter "Focus on the Family". We can call if "Focus on the Christian Mullahs"
Christian Revolutionary Guard.
that's gotta nice ring to him.
It does trip liltingly off the tongue
How about Myopic on Muthah-F**kers?
I thought Tony Perkins was the family research council. Is it one big "family" with different branches?
Perkins and all the rest of his absolutely non-religious, hate-monguering Reslug ilk belong to his family of proud domestic terrorists and murderers.
"Pre-born children?!" What the hell, as opposed to "post-born children." That term just pisses me off so much. That just highlights what pisses me off about the "pro-life" movement and why I have no respect for them. They care oh so much about "pre-born children" but couldn't give two shits about that same entity the moment it becomes "post-born". By just coming up with this Ingsoc sounding term, they're insinuating that there is something more special about a fetus than a "post-born" child, hypocrites, all of them.
How appropriate is it that the religious wrong would adopt some Newspeak-esque term for it's own use. Pre-born... what does that make me "pre-dead"?
And secondly, Dr. Tiller is fucking dead, these assholes got their prayers answered, what the hell more do they want?
Five bucks says there some jackass somewhere referring to Dr. Tiller's hit as the power of prayer.
Fuck these people and fuck the hypocritical, terrorist sympathizing "pro-life" movement.
Every sperm is sacred.
*
They start calling teenage boys who chronically masturbate, mass murders too?
They are on a crusade against women choosing to do what they will with their OWN bodies.
One of the key tenants of Focus on the Family is to relegate women to a second class status. It's not about life or about caring about children. It's about controlling women and making them subservient to men. If they actually cared about children, they wouldn't be against the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, and they wouldn't be against SCHIP or public education. If they were as against abortion as they say they are, they would be handing out contraceptives and teaching sex ed. But, they are not. It is all about control.
I wonder if these men whom are so outraged by abortion are more outraged by the act or by the fact that a woman was allowed to make her own decision without a man telling her what to do.
I think we have found the root of the problem...
Like with rapists...its about control.
I hope you don't mind if I take it a bit further. If the REALLY cared, the USA wouldn't be on par with Malawi when it comes to infant mortality, low birth-weight and the amount of stillbirths. They would be campaigning for improved prenatal and maternity care so that these "pre-born" could reach their full potential and maybe even survive birth. They would make sure that pregnant women were given vouchers for fresh fruit and vegetables, that they could choose the method in which they give birth, that help was given for alcohol, drug and cigarette addictions and that breastfeeding is widely supported, encouraged and promoted. They would ensure that American women and men get proper PAID maternity and paternity leave so that babies aren't left in daycare at 6 weeks old. Also, there would be a period of state paid maternity/paternity leave so that either mom or dad could be with their baby. That way, a high-earning or woman on a fast track would not lose out because she decided to have a child.
The "christian" wingnut groups seem to get the "richie cunniingham" looking spokesmen to spew their vile hatred and bigotry (all in the name of the bible) whether its anti choice or anti gay equality. Look at the other opie looking christian coalition guy, ralph reed. He's an adult but has that adolescent appearance---creepy. They are all full of pure evil.
republichristians are terrorists.
Just as bad as any they hate so much.
I wonder if these people were raped as children, or beaten?
They don't seem to know right from wrong or even care.
Everyday they prove it over and over that they are crazy immoral fools.
republicanism is a mental illness and these people need to be treated like the terrorists they are!
So are all those taking a dirt nap awaiting a glorious resurrection
The Undead?
The Pre-risen....
or the flaccid.
Focus on the Fanatics? Focus on the Fuckups?
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