Fox News is the 'Most Ideological Network,' according to Pew Research
OK, cue up the O'Reilly denunciations of the Pew Research Center:
The Fox News Channel is viewed by Americans in more ideological terms than other television news networks. And while the public is evenly divided in its view of hosts of cable news programs having strong political opinions, more Fox News viewers see this as a good thing than as a bad thing.
Nearly half of Americans (47%) say they think of Fox News as “mostly conservative,” 14% say it is “mostly liberal,” and 24% say it is “neither in particular.” Opinion about the ideological orientation of other TV news outlets is more mixed: while many view CNN and the three broadcast networks as mostly liberal, about the same percentages say they are neither in particular. However, somewhat more say MSNBC is mostly liberal than say it is neither in particular, by 36% to 27%.
The perceptions of those who regularly tune into these news networks are similar to those of the public. Nearly half (48%) of regular Fox viewers say the network is mostly conservative. About four-in-ten (41%) regular viewers of CNN describe the network as mostly liberal and 36% of regular MSNBC viewers say the same about that network....read on.
I'm surprised it's not much higher, but that's because I imagine there are many people who don't tune into it enough to really know what's what, and that's part of the reason that it freaked Fox out after the White House called them on it. And who watches Fox Noise and would possibly think it's liberal? My only guesses are militia members and a lot of teabaggers. Do some people really view BillO as a Lib?
http://satiricalpolitical.com/2009/10/20/the-...
o'really doesn't believe in reliance on the Pew?
Why, how heathen of him!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsdgyC757H4
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
My bad...
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---Southwest Airlines
nutwork to Afghanistan or somewhere? Pleeeze...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
What to do with the 11% who think MSNBC is "mostly conservative"?
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Or the 14% who thing Fox is mostly liberal? I wonder if such a poll is relevant at all.
more liberal talent!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
So CBS is not a Network anymore?
I think we can safely discount the 14% who think Fox is liberal and the 11% who think MSNBC as either extremely (scarily) radical or maybe they are just idiots who express an opinion on a subject on which they know absolutely nothing - just like Faux editorialists and 'reporters.'
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
I believe some people mistake some libertarian ideas for those of liberals.
The HeadLine Should Read:
Fewer Than Half Think Fox News Is Conservative!!
.. cuz that's the REALLY deplorable finding here ..
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Anybody else see something odd about 14 percent of those respondents? Isn't that like 14 percent saying they see dead people...but you know, not just on Halloween?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIMfdlVGmqM
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
had occurred to me. It is hard for me to imagine 14 per cent of Americans (presuming this sample is representative) huddling in their bunkers surrounded by guns, ammo and MREs cursing Fox News for their wishy-washy liberalism.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
with the "headline" here: "Fox News is the 'Most Ideological Network,' according to Pew Research". Ideology refers to a view (political, economical) in the social sciences that events are to be seen from the perspective of a fixed conceptual framework (e.g., Marxism and class warfare, Trickle-down economics and the Friedmanites at the University of Chicago, globalists and the trumping of sovereign nations laws) in which these events are INEVITABLE (i.e, dogma) to which the citizens must genuflect. What Fox and its variants disseminate is propaganda in which real-world events are spun, twisted, massaged and inverted to support the ideology which, in the case of Fox, is anti-democratic, corporatist fascism (government for special interest groups typically the business or corporate sector). So, the phrase "most ideological" is off-the-mark as all political and economic perspectives follow from some type of ideology and should read "Fox news is 'the major disseminator of disinformation, half-truths, and distortions for the anti-democratic ideologues" . Quite a mouthful but perhaps a little more accurate.
"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.
pew research did not find that "Fox News is the Most Ideological Network"
pew research found that that is how the public perceives fox news. there is a difference.
also, this poll is completely idiotic. how many rightwingers watched msnbc to get form their opinion? how many lefties watch faux? how many lefties don't watch either? what is "conservative"? what is "liberal"? how on god's wilted earth did people find cnn to be more liberal than conservative, and more liberal than msnbc? i imagine a lot of public perception is NOT based on an informed opinion, but, rather, on an assumption. if this poll were printed it would make good toilet paper.
the poll is crap.
If anything, it confirms what most FOX wathchers believe; that the rest of the media is decidedly liberal. Fox may be more conservative than the other stations individually are liberal, but compared to them collectively, what the hell are liberals complaining about- it's one station leaning right vs. the rest of the media leaning decidedly left.
Samson is right and you are completely wrong, dennis. This poll comes nowhere near confirming that the the media is decidedly liberal. It's a silly assertion and you know it.
look at the numbers in the graph above of mostly liberal to mostly conservative:
MSNBC 36-11
CNN 37-11
NBC 36-11
ABC 32-14
CBS 31-14
Perceptions are decidectly liberal for CNN and MSNBC and all of the major networks. One station that is more conservative than the rest of the networks are liberal individually, but the rest of them are definitely liberal, something everyone at this blog has always argued is not true.
Fox against the rest of the media and you guys think that's not fair.
Obama doesn't think it's fair, either. Nor Gibbs, nor Axelrod, nor Emmanuel, nor Jarrett, nor Chairwoman Mao Tse-Dunn.
I don't get it.
That's just it, perceptions.
Perhaps conservatives are getting some return on their investment in working the refs over the last four decades. Repeating the "liberal media" mantra over and over has become the public perception, not the reality.
Are the networks really liberal?
As always, follow the money and the answer is no.
I started off by saying agreeing with Samsonite that the poll was crap. As for your assertion, poll after poll after poll comes to the same conclusion that the media is decidely slanted liberal. They may work to be as objective as they can be, but studies show that not to be the case, despite all the anecdotal evidence to the contrary that liberal blogs bring to your attention.
who are these 'neithers" in the survey? (r) moderates maybe....independents?
wow there's plenty of different sources of the so-called "liberal" bias news media. but there only seems to be one dominate republican/"conservative" source. that seems somewhat odd but understandable since the (r) doesn't like conflict/debate within their own party. it's got to be Black and White....'your with us or against us' type of chatter. NO room for grey area thinking. you won't see ron paul-(r) on fox much... not extreme enough at least not an extreme neoCON. like the health care insurance industry i want fox to have competition within it's own ideologue/audience. they don't want that potential weakness/fragmentation.
Ho, ho, ho!
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
For them, Not Conservative=Biased, so if Americans see Fox as mostly conservative, it's just proof of how unbiased it is.
My guess is the 14% who find Fox to be liberal are the hard core birthers angry that Fox is covering up the truth about Obama along with the rest of the MSM.
The 11% who find MSNBC to be mostly conservative, are the same people who find any corporately owned, advertising dependent media to be by definition "conservative".
At least 30% did not understand the question, but answered anyway.
..who bought into the "liberal media conspiracy" crap.
who are the 14% that see Fox as "mostly liberal"? And what the hell are they smoking??
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Camels
Droppings.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
They better not bogart it!
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6yMj0JGLWs
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
LOVE IT!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Jon Stewart did a beautiful job regarding Fox cable channel last night. It was funny as hell!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I thought so too!
For Fox Sake!
http://vodpod.com/watch/2426511-stewart-takes...
AHA!!
Liberal bias! Liberal biaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!
*runs in circles*
The token Fox News guy at work said to me one day, "I don't know what liberal and conservative means. How can you tell the difference?" I did my best to explain in a neutral fashion w/ regard to social and economic policies.
fair and balanced......whatever. fox and company are doing their best to not allow any "moderates" so not to have bipartisanship on much of anything. all of these idiots hannity,o'really and limpball have their audiences distracted. trust me there will be plenty of (r) and (i) with their hands out for health care insurance reform. just yesterday ron paul-R was stating his agreement with the president to sit down and have discussions with iran.......not sure fox will air that. obama was able to get independents to vote for him putting a hurt on the (r) party. they want to avoid that by distracting them about what might be best for them like health care insurance cost reform.
is very open about their survey and sampling methods...
Its highly doubtful that FOX could ever publish a page anything like this:
http://pewresearch.org/about/ethics/
(and have it be believable)
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Bill Moyers wrote the Introduction to Amy Goodman's book, "Breaking the Sound Barrier." Included below is part of it describing what the networks and so-called journalists are lacking:
"You can learn more of the truth about Washington and the world from one week of Amy Goodman's "Democracy Now!" than from a month of Sunday morning talk shows. Make that a year of Sunday morning talk shows."
[That's because Amy, as you will discover on every page of her new book, "Breaking the Sound Barrier", knows the critical question for journalists is how close they are to the truth, not how close they are to power. Like I. F. Stone, she values the facts on the ground; unlike the Sunday beltway anchors, she refuses to take the official version of reality as the definition of news, or to engage in Washington's "wink-wink" game, by which both parties to an interview tacitly understand that the questions and answers will be framed to appear adversarial when in fact their purpose is to avoid revealing how power really works.
Quick: recall the last time you heard a celebrity journalist on any of the Sunday talk shows grill a politician on what campaign contributors get for their generosity.
Try again: name any of those elite interrogators who skewered any politician for saying that "single-payer" wasn't on the table in the debate over health care reform because "there's no support for it." OK, one last chance: recall how often you have heard any of the network stars insist that Newt Gingrich reveal just who is funding his base as the omnipresent expert on everything.]
Read on... http://www.truthout.org/1027098
There is nothing - not one thing - that is conservative about being conservative. Nowadays conservative just means crazy and most people are getting it.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
No surprise, this has been common knowledge at least since Faux helped bush win in 2000.
Is it the 21st century yet?
I can't believe that public perception still buys the "liberal media" BS. ALL of those networks are powerfully conservative.
Anybody who thinks that a media owned by giant corporations is "liberal" is fooling themselves...
"The Good and Great Must Ever Shun, That Reckless and Abandoned One
Who Stoops to Perpetrate a Pun," Lewis Carroll, 'The Three Voices.'
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
1.Is mostly Liberal.
2.Whales are insects that subsist primarily on bananas.
3.In his spare time Gandhi played the xylophone in the Woody Herman Band.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
4. Uranium is a useful metal for filling teeth and building strong superstructures.
5. Exposure to rabies inoculates one from H1N1 influenza.
6. Big pharma executives donate the majority of their income to black charities, so additional regulation of them is unnecessary.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
if it's not extreme to ultra-conservative it's liberal...period. this is to keep that certain demographic(s) that watch fox distracted from the reality of the economy/BUSH legacy. the republican party has major concern regarding people that call themselves independents. they are concerned that group will grow and listen to the likes of ron paul-R. there's no room for moderates that could lead to potential
bipartisanship. this is mostly one sided distraction media. the reality of the BUSH legacy has hurt this country for yrs. to come.
i tried several times to watch/listen to fox to get other side(s)/opinions, but when i went to others to discuss what i heard i often ended up in a catatonic like state mumbling/repeating that obama is at fault for everything.......forget the BUSH legacy.....blame obama for our mistakes and then i would snap out of it. that's seems to be the underlining theme of their "reporting".... smear BUSH legacy onto obama.
There is a major problem with this poll. It asks for perceptions on political slant, but doesn't assess the slant of the viewers questioned. To have a more meaningful picture you would have to ask a few questions to try and assess the bias of each person in the poll and weight their answers accordingly, at least if you wanted a better idea of if a given network has an overriding bias.
For example, if you have someone saying Fox is mostly liberal, its a pretty safe bet they're going to say the same of every other network, and probably reflects personal bias a lot more than what the actual final delivered news product is (same would of course apply for those far to the left as well assessing if something is "mostly conservative").
fox is authoritarian like BUSH. your one source for (R)ed meat for the black and white thinkers. eat and repeat after me: obama is to blame for everything. you will now stop blaming clinton and blame obama instead........
But I thought we knew this shit 8 years ago?... and everyone else caught on about 4 years ago.
A VP at FAUX announced that they were going to oppose this administration therefore they are right wingnut hacks. Wouldn't that make everything not FAUX left? How can any other network be rightwing if you use FAUX as the norm for rightwing? Everything is left of FAUX.
How truly stupid people are. Every fucking one of them is mostly conservative. Whatever.
More jaded by the minute...
They're businesses FFS! They're not inherently liberal and never have been. If they do a good job as journalists, which is quite rare, it is only because they sense that good journalism brings better profits. Just like the "liberal" health insurance industry, networks are all about profit.
Who the Hell are the 14% that believe FOX news to be a liberal news outlet. That's truly scary.
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what is worse, ignorance or indifference?
I don't know and I don't care!
that scare me. Even more than the ones who think it's got a liberal bias. O'Reilly has actually said some relatively liberal things recently - I hate to admit it, but I sort of respect him for it.
25% don't know if msnbc is liberal or not... only 15% don't know that FOX is conservative. Where are these people living? Under a rock?
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