Only in Cokie's World
ROBERTS: Well, it's always politically difficult for Democrats when they are dealing with an issue like terrorism. It remained the Republican's only winning issue through most of President Bush's second term, and it's a particular problem for a Democrat who hasn't served in the military.
It's her world and she lives in it. And you don't you.
Plus you better not dare take a ride into her Village.
DONALDSON: One third of that majority is on a government health program. I'm on Medicare. People who've been in the military are on a government health program. And yet the Republicans were able the make the idea that being on a government health program is terrible.
ROBERTS: Well, that's what I can't get over, is how the Democrats...
DONALDSON: Absurd.
ROBERTS: ... and the White House lost control of the message. I mean, that to me is phenomenal. After doing as well as they did in that campaign, they -- they let this public option -- nobody had ever heard of a public option. Suddenly it became the Holy Grail. You know, it's absurd. They should have just been out there day after day saying, "Thirty more million people insured, and you don't have pre-existing conditions on coverage."
Now I agree with her about screaming for the thirty million people who have no coverage and all, but poll after poll after poll shows that Americans love the idea of a public option. Even Scott Brown voters in Massachusetts love the public option, but not in Cokie's world.
Cokie also thinks that Obama should call John McCain and his crew into action and join the good fight because then he could embarrass them.
DOWD: ... he's going to have to say, "I embrace this. We went off a bit over the course of the last year, but I want to bring a bipartisan solution to the problems of America."
ROBERTS: He needs to call on them, you know, call them to action and ask them to be in it together for the country, you know, so that they look unpatriotic if they're not.
In Cokie's world, President Obama never reached out to republicans after he was sworn in.
In the third week of his transition to power, President-elect Barack Obama is working to build a cordial relationship with Republicans by seeking guidance on policy proposals, asking for advice on appointments and hoping to avoid perceptions of political arrogance given the wide margins of his victory. Obama has made calls to Republican leaders, and he dispatched Rahm Emanuel, his chief of staff, to meet with them on Capitol Hill.
Maybe she forgot. It happens:
For now, the Republican strategy is to praise President Obama and aim their fire at the House Democratic leadership. "It was very impressive that he came to the Congress and met with us. He was certainly very forthright," said Michigan Republican Dave Camp.
It could be that she was napping he entire month of January, 2009.
Not long after Senator John McCain returned last month from an official trip to Iraq and Pakistan, he received a phone call from President-elect Barack Obama.
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It was just one step in a post-election courtship that historians say has few modern parallels, beginning with a private meeting in Mr. Obama’s transition office in Chicago just two weeks after the vote. On Monday night, Mr. McCain will be the guest of honor at a black-tie dinner celebrating Mr. Obama’s inauguration.
Maybe she went to Hawaii for a vacation back then and didn't see Obama court the Queen of America, Olympia Snowe.
Or maybe, just maybe she's a blithering idiot?
Rep. Mike Pence, chair of the House Republican Conference, said Tuesday that President Obama had accepted an invitation to address GOP members of Congress at the group's retreat later this month.
"House Republicans are grateful that the President of the United States has accepted our invitation to meet with the Republican Conference later this month," Pence said in a statement released by his office. "House Republicans look forward to presenting the president with our proposals to protect our nation, create jobs, control federal spending, lower the cost of health care, achieve energy independence and strengthen families."
The House Republican Conference is slated to meet in Baltimore Jan. 28-30.
Being bipartisan and reaching out has really helped the president so far. Thanks Cokie.
One of these threads is not like the others,
One of these threads just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thread is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
The way republicants deal/dealt with "terrists"
is not a "winning issue" with anyone but a neo-con!
..the way "our govt" has dealt with terrorists is a "losing issue" for anyone who thinks... (although most people know!) ...the war is a bogus fiasco ,that is just a big excuse, to spend our money and take away our freedoms.
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
...is to give them as much assistance as possible during Democratic administrations.
ie-by using their cheap labor agenda to submarine the nominee to head up the TSA, to make sure it remains leaderless. Gotta leave those terrorists an opening here or there, and give them a chance to make the new administration look bad.
..."being leaderless"
...is not really the reason that "Mr. nitro skivvys" made it through security in Amsterdam, Yemen, and Nigeria...
I still will agree with you and go so far as to say (someone helped the underpants bomber)...thats for sure!
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
..our goverment dealt real good with terrists..we gave a home, food, clothing, entertained them with music and gave them a colorful (mostly black and blue) outlook on life. you know the way they dealt with the terrists, you'd think they should receive freedom medals.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
sam donaldson and cokie roberts... why do you torture yourself john?
i understand the need to demonstrate just how wrong she is, but, really, just writing the name "cokie roberts" says it all.
Cokie's Water Cooler World
the air is so rare around the Donaldson-Roberts water cooler! OMG. "Casting!"
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
The Democrats are completely incapable of delivering a strong, consistent message. If Obama and Pelosi and Reid and Gibbs had all come out on day one preaching the benefits of a single-payer system, or the public option, we would have one of those options enacted today.
You should not follow suit. You keep claiming the poll to which you link shows "Even Scott Brown voters in Massachusetts" love the public option. The poll you cite only measured how voters who supported Obama in 2008 and then voted for Brown felt. You may be right, but that poll does not show it.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Why in the world is Sam Donaldson using Medi-Care?
Cokie always looks like one of those women on the cover of Good Housekeeping from about 1964.
Tie a lacy apron on her and she's good to go.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
First of all, I thought Brown won primarily due to his stance on terror. I thought that was his big claim to fame.
Cokie, I mean what is her background and why would anyone give a damn about her opinion when her comment about Hawaii being too exotic a place for the president to vist, won her the dumbest fu*king person alive award.
Pretty damn sad that Palin got more attention with her dealth panels comment than any one part of this bill, which by the way isn't a bill yet.
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She's a Boggs, my dear. Her father was Hale Boggs, Majority Leader of the House and then her mother was a Congress-critter from Louisiana. Her brother is a lobbyist and her husband is a journalist. She's lived her whole life in DC.
All that in her wake and she is still this lost in space?
I didn't even know I was your dear. :)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
That's why she's batty.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2008...
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
You missed a couple more (recent) polls showing majority support for the public option. Can we start spreading these around?
From WaPo here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
and Reuters here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5B20OL2...
The Reuters poll of course mentions some other things, like the fact that most people want a public option but are skeptical that it will lower the deficit. So, naturally Rasmussen has been hammering away all week on the skeptical part while ignoring the support for the public option part.
Even Zogby lists the public option as one of the three most popular ideas in healthcare reform.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.cfm?ID=1753
He cites "tort reform" (surprise), removal of the mandate, and the public option as the three most popular ideas for health insurance reform.
So, leave it to a handful of "centrist" Democratic party double agents to force IN the one aspect that's universally hated (the mandate) and force OUT the one aspect that's universally liked (the public options) so that in the end NOBODY can support the reforms.
You've heard of "poison pill legislation?" Well THIS is the definition of it.
I vote blithering idiot. She has been too long (her whole life) in DC and knows nothing of the real world.
Don't forget that the casting for this show was done many years ago by some jerk that liked the way she looked.
I have already watched that show - the one we're talking about, can't rememeber name ATM, don't ever need to watch it again!
I know what these people will think already! WTF?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Round up all those sissies with a (D) next to their names, sit them down and tell them, straight out, NO MORE BULLSHIT (you also have to remind yourself as well). You campaigned on the public option; a majority of us, aka the PUBLIC, want the public option so start acting in our interest instead of being a feeble, milquetoast, figurehead hell bent on "bipartisanship".
Definitely.
and his outstanding military record. Doesn't Bush have the record for most coke snorted, most alcohol consumed, most strippers ..., most time awol, etc...
DUHbya's a rethug, so it's okay, dontcha know?!
..hi..oh wait..what was I thinkin'.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Obama should call McCain and ask him, Do you still want to be President? If McCain said yes, then Obama should say, It's yours. I'm tired of working day in and day out with idiots. If I say the sky is blue, they say it isn't. If you want this fu*king job have at it, Joe and I are ready to go home and have a life again.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I have to admit, it looks like a no-win situation for Obama. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Since nearly every Democrat, on every blog, seems to think he's a failure, maybe Obama should give them the Repubicans again.
Hopefully people on the left will realise that this is what the Repubicans were hoping for. Democratic in-fighting that is.
I sure do know what you are talking about. It's frustrating as hell to see a brick wall put in front of his every move and hear people complain because he can't walk through a brick wall.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
So now he's sitting there with the door closed waiting for someone else to come open it.
Only he campaigned on opening the door in the wall
True. But I don't think Obama thought there would be a crowd of people on the other side of that door holding it closed. Or, maybe he thought there would be less people than there actually were. It doesn't help that a great number of Democrats are included.
How could he have known?
Or maybe he thought the pols in DC along with the American people might be willing to stop bickering over every iota of everything and pull together for the good of the entire country. Maybe he believed we were all better than the last eight years had shown.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Or we are. I'm not convinced the health plan is not exactly what he wanted from the start.
I think what disappoints me is that he hasn't gone after a lot of low-hanging fruit like DOMA and DADT. I'm a straight Canadian guy and I'm pretty happy that we finally did the right thing and made same-sex marriage official. I feel there is a lot of public support for doing the right thing in America, too.
Force the politicians to cast their votes, then either support them in their next primaries (if they vote correctly) or support their challengers. I think if Obama called some schmuck into his office and said "do you want me campaigning FOR you, or AGAINST you?" it would probably have some persuasive qualities.
I have some chicken condo cages in California I'd like to sell you. We can deliver them all the way up to Maine if you can pick them up there. Can't get into Canada because our marriage might collapse.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
The objective is to be seen trying to fulfill your campaign promises.
If it is blocked by other politicians, then they can answer to their constituents. If their constituents support them, then that's the way the cards drop.
If their constituents support the challenger you bring against them, then that's the way the politician drops.
Sen. Harkin was just on the Ed Show and he told Ed the republicans in the senate have told Harry Reid that they will stop all democratic bills from proceeding in the Senate. Harkin said he has a food safety bill that will pass easily if he can just bring it to the floor.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
is arguing in federal court to overturn the Prop 8 approval in California.
Yes, that Ted Olson, the one who argued before the Supremes and got Bush seated in the White House.
And fighting that case along side him is the attorney who worked for Gore at the same time. They are both working on that same case.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
strange bedfellows and I hope they kick ass.
They do make a hell of a team. Each is good in his own right, and together they just might make it happen.
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A move for Social/Legal America toward the 20th Century??
Don't tease me.
The right is saying he went too far to the left. The left is saying he tried to go too far to the right. How can he get anything done if both sides are reinforcing the wall?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
or is it grow a pear. Nearly every Democrat on every blog....claims they are no longer a Democrat.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I guess according to Beck they are now secret progressives.
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just not a happy one.
He needs to ignore what the f*** people are saying and live up to his campaign promises, moral imperatives and common decency. Or are you saying he needs to look to others for moral guidance because he has no internal model of right and wrong within himself?
We're not pissed off because Obama can't walk through walls. We're pissed off because he is a waffling weak-kneed corporatist who abandoned his campaign promises and high sounding principles the moment he was sworn in. If only he tried and stood for the people of the United States, rightness and decency instead of caving in to corporate special interests more people would support him and be inclined to vote for him in 2012 even if he were to fail. I know I would.
..of the USA is considered like, the most powerful job, man in the world. He had the majority in the House and Senate, he had the public support and numbers for a Public Option and no need to call "health care reform" but HEALTH INSURANCE REFORM..he engaged in bipartisanship which was admirable but since they were NEVER, EVER, going to come to the table and bargain in good faith, he had the option of taking control and running the agenda and fighting back at the hypocrisy. He didn't need us to do it for him. Its not like we're going to walk in and take the job from him so he had choices right now to make about how HE wants to lead this country. I'm hoping for BOLD but whatever the last year has been or was - not that!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
In Beck's world tonight he asked which Obama will show up this week to give the SOTU speech, the politician or the radical progressive?
This was after he had compared the Obama administration to Hugo Chavez.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Obama is proving himself to be no Hugo Chavez.
Yeah he should call McCain, when he answered tell 'em to fuck himself then call all the Democratic Senator into his office and tell them Medicare for everyone, get it done or we'll cut your balls off!
Sorry... I forgot all Democratic Senator's balls are in a vault under the Capitol Bldg and only get released if they turn Republican.
Here it is almost dinner time and the Spaghetti Monster talks about "balls". To a hungry stomach that brings spaghetti and meat balls to mind. ;)
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and Do a Demmycratic Dance. In memory of Jim Wright.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6ooBTJbLkQ&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W-fIn2QZgg
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I followed your first link and wondered, what did I ever do to make him lead me to something this bad?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I put two and two together. Spaghetti and Westerns.
Did I get the wrong pair?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Um, yeah you did for me. I get it, but I don't want to have to suffer through it. :)
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If anyone read the Nixon papers that were just released it's easy to imagine that the Repubican party would put sleepers into the Democratic ranks just to change or block votes coming from the left. Not to far fetched IMO.
I wouldn't be surprised at anything the republicans would do after living through the last two administrations, Clinton's and Bush's.
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Their names are: Joe Lieberman, Blanche Lincoln, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson - to name a few.....
Remember that joke about Cokie?
During a talk show, someone says to Cokie, "President Bush lied us into two wars, authorized torture and illegal wire-tapping, and Vice-President Cheney is playing back-room power politics. The country is in a crisis."
Without a pause Cokie exclaims, "Yes, but the Democrats . . .
Case in point - Judd Gregg.
Requested to serve by Obama as Commerce Sec. for cryin' out loud.
But no, he'd rather serve the GOP as one of their masters of obstruction. Heck of a letter writer, Judd.
Term's almost up, Judd! Your work on behalf of the people is done. Time to leave for the big bucks!
Everyone and I mean everyone knows that with out a doubt that the Anti American, republican, tea baggers and Socialist Corporations will lead and are leading the charge on the demise and Failure of the USA.
From the Racist, Nazi, Socialist fox noise, nit wit entertainment works, to the racist and Nazi Drug Addict blimp baugh and the incoherent brain dead Moron of fox noise.
Then move on to the Spineless, Gutless, COWARD and American TRAITOR cheney, ever notice how when this piece of scum makes threats that within 2-3 weeks there is with out fail a terrorist attempt or financial crisis.
Then the Senatorial Racist Nazi, Socialist, mcconnell, coryn of tx, the scum trash and garbage from alabama and south carolina, north carolina nevada and montana and the list grows and this republican WHORE while on her knees servicing the Nazi, Racist in her party wants to challenge the President, tell this BITCH if the ATTACK comes it will be done through the efforts of the Anti American republican party, the PARTY of TRAITRS and COWARDS
You get it , too many don't have a clue and can't see past their noses . The Repug party have been taken over by the worst of the worst , todays Repugs are nothing but traitors and saboteurs as are the Reagan / Bush plants that are in the Supreme court , they are ruthless and without conscience and they play on the ignorant and stupid in this country who account for half the population . This is the demise of ( pseudo ) Democracy in America alright . Say hello to absolute Fascism , next time the Repugs gain power and control , and that's not if but when they do , it is all over folks . You can laugh or shake your head now but you'll be singing a different tune in the not very distant future , it'll become painfully clear even to the blind and dense and there won't be a damned thing we can do about it at that point . Just read your history books folks !
Look this over & see if I am correct about what are winning issues for Democrats this year:
1. Democrats need to tell Republicans to sit down & shut up if all they want to do is be obstructionist. Democrats should point this out at every turn during the campaign.
2. Democrats need to compare every sitting congressional Republican to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity & Glenn Beck, as they are the real leaders of the Republican party.
3. Democrats should use the SCOTUS decision on corporate election donations against Republicans. Say that Republicans are too powerful in this country & need to be held in check.
4. Point out that the media is essentially conservative. Blow back at them at every turn & call them out on it.
5. Support term limits for Congress. Now, I know this might be too controversial, but with the recent SCOTUS decision corporations are more powerful than people because they have a lot more money. We the people do not matter much any more, so maybe if we controlled the amount of time they spent in Congress then maybe things will work out. Again, I don't know if this really is doable, but I am curious what you all think out there. If you can come up with any others, that is cool too.
Democrats need to encourage Obama to run as a Republican in 2012.
Support a Constitutional Amendment to establish Term Limits on the SCOTUS. A single 12 year term should suffice, along with rigorous scrutiny by the Senate, including the ability to recall them, Their scheduled appointment could be aligned like the Senate itself, with 1/3 replaced every 4 years to coincide with the Federal mid-term elections.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
Support a Constitutional Amendment to do away with the Electoral College, in order to provide for the direct election of our President. Included should be a process of "Instant Run-off", which will help pave the way for 3rd party candidates. This same bill should also establish a unified Federal process of vote recounts, in order to eliminate forever the possibility of the SCOTUS anointing a President instead of the People, as happened in the 2000 (s)election.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
she clutches her pearls or faux pearls every time she utters a word on that show. she's the modern day equivalent of Marie Antoinette uttering 'let them eat cake' aphorisms about the 'real' Americans.
In Greek mythology, pearls were a yonic symbol, to borrow a term from Hinduism.
The more crude among us tend to equate the pearl with the clitoris.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"Let them eat cake," is too clever for Republicans. They are content to let them starve.
I dunno, the public seems fine with how President Obama handled Captain Underpants.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
More useless drivel by Dopey ... same as Biff Will . I can't understand why either is still on the air . I put these two clowns on the ignore list years ago .
Have another drink, Cokie.
"House Republicans look forward to presenting the president with our proposals to protect our nation, create jobs, control federal spending, lower the cost of health care, achieve energy independence and strengthen families."
Republicans can't do any of these things. Really, they can't.
Tax cuts for the top 5%.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Cokie must have forgot that President Obama just like then President Bush, is a WAR President.
And we all know how republicans felt about America and supporting a war president, right?
By the way, has anyone counted the American flag pins that republicans were wearing then vs wearing now ?
If the other shoe fits in her mouth, only Cokie could do it with grace.
"House Republicans look forward to presenting the president with our proposals to protect our nation, create jobs, control federal spending, lower the cost of health care, achieve energy independence and strengthen families."
Cut taxes... for the rich. Cut school lunch programs. Decrease the surplus population. Double Guantanamo.
when he addresses the House Republican Conference should be "I want to listen to your ideas as long as they don't include tax cuts for the rich and doing nothing". That will shut them up; end of conference till he leaves.
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