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Is it unreasonable to expect the press, especially respected members of the press like CBS News' Bob Schieffer, to hold guests to account when they make ridiculous, incendiary, defamatory statements about the President of the United States? Evidently it's only unreasonable when Democrats do it about Republicans, but it seems to be perfectly all right for RNC Chair Reince Priebus to liken the President to the captain of the cruise ship that sank in Italy last week. Here's what he said:

SCHIEFFER: But Donald Trump -- he's, kind of, worried about it. You heard what he just said. He said, you know, he thinks they're cannibalizing each other. Do you think that's going to all come out OK?

PRIEBUS: Now, the history shows, Bob, that -- that tough primaries and a little bit of drama are a good thing for the challenging party. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama -- you know, they killed each other through June, and guess what? He won pretty easily. I think the evidence is there.

I think it's good for America. And in the end, in a few months, this is all going to be ancient history and we're going to talk about our own little Captain Schettino, which is President Obama, who is abandoning the ship here in the United States and is more interested in campaigning than doing his job as president.

SCHIEFFER: What -- what did you just say? What did you call President Obama?

PRIEBUS: I called him Captain Schettino, you know, the captain that fled the ship in Italy. That's our own president, who is fleeing the American people and not doing his job and running around the country and campaigning.

(LAUGHTER)

You made me think of it with all the ships behind you, Bob.

Really? See, if I were to consider a metaphor like captains of ships and the like, I'd think of Captain Chesley Sullenberger (Sully), who managed to save the crew and passengers of his plane by landing it in the Hudson River, saving all 155 people aboard the aircraft, instead of a cavalier, careless idiot like Captain Schettino, who had no business steering a ship so close to shallow water, failed to turn it in time, ran it into a rock and then leapt off the ship while passengers died in their life vests waiting to be evacuated.

Think about those metaphors. Who steered too close to the shore? George W. Bush and his merry band of regulators who sat around watching porn instead of paying attention to banks. Who failed to turn soon enough? Congress, perhaps, where Republicans routinely block each and every initiative to rescue this country from financial ruin? Who jumped into the life boats, leaving others to clean up and try and rescue as many as they could?

And yet, Bob Scheiffer's answer to Priebus?

SCHIEFFER: I -- I see what you're saying.

This is why we can't have nice things.

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flag_bible_gun's picture

You have no excuses when you run aground. Just a reason - stupidity.
They sell these things called 'charts' you know, and if you learn how to navigate you stay out of trouble.
The same thing applies in the business world, but the GOP thinks that the rocks can be avoided by the 'free market' gps system. The only problem is that the repugs are using a system that was made in the reagan era and was defective from the factory. but they still like it 'cause it's works pretty well when you are way offshore with your money.

"Plenty of other captains have boldly steered into perilous waters, failed to see rocks and crashed. They've also lost footing on shifting surfaces, only to land in lifeboats, leaving others to drown. This has been a regular headline for decades."

Capt. Jeffrey Skilling
Capt. Bernie Madoff
Capt. Tony Hayward
Capt. Daniel Mudd
Capt. John Thain
Capt. Bernie Ebbers

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297...

I'm sure there are plenty more
I didn't get to GOoPers that ran aground.

A rising tide lifts all ships, unless they are pinned beneath a much larger one.


Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces

Samson-'s picture

what? does this mean that the GOP actually acknowledges that the president is legitimate?

i think the little pinched-face man just made news

Geronimo.'s picture

And George Bush's Osama bin Laden was our Emmanuel Goldstein. Fuck you Reince and everyone who lies about the cause of disaster in this country. This ship started going down when Katherine Harris and the Bush people stole the election in Florida. Then we had our Reichstag Fire and all the sniper terrorism and anthrax and the following legislation that took away our citizens rights. Then we had the pre-emptive wars for territory and the torture. And then the huge tax cuts for the rich that bankrupted our country into unpayable debt making us indentured servants/slaves to the bankster owners and friends of this administration. Halliburton etc. Bush and Cheney are very successful criminals. Oil men. Disaster Capitalists. They are bringing down the United States and reaping the profits just like Romney did at Bain. Pretty easy to understand. But most people will go on pretending the surface level shit still matters. And that's why we will fail.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Samson-'s picture

when the ship started going down could be heavily debated (imo, well before bush), but, as you note, the notion that it began with obama is pure lunacy cloaked in idiocy

lewmanbubba's picture

etc

Ape-Man's picture

SCHIEFFER: I -- I see what you're saying.

If he were a journalist, if CBS "Face The Nation" were not just a reich wing propaganda program, he would have presented some facts that represent reality against this republican propaganda fantasy.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Obama IS a Republican. The Reptile's just object to him wearing sheep's clothing.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Kreskin's picture

, Samson's right " the notion that it began with obama is pure lunacy cloaked in idiocy " , so is comparing Obama to a Republicon and claiming that he is one .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

kasinca's picture

Considering how he gets along with the party of No and all the right wingers are attacking him daily, I guess I get you point. Are you on crack or just a f*cking genius in your own mind? There is nothing republican about him and the fact you haven't gotten your pet issue the first four years has to do with the Congress obstructing everything his tries to do. When you want to sound intelligent, think before you post.

Geronimo.'s picture

He does protect Republican criminals from being prosecuted. I'm sure they appreciate that.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Ape-Man's picture

Yes, he does do some pretty peculiar things alright. I wish he would explain why he does many of the things he does. If they really are the right thing to do, he should be able to justify them to the American people.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

CFAmick's picture

Killing bin Laden is self-explanatory, but Americans are told to discount that. He's the President; his citizenship is a done deal, but there's a cottage industry pretending that it isn't. Obama needs to mock these people, not justify or explain himself.

dixie blood's picture

How did the RePugniScums obstruct him and his DoJ from prosecuting the war criminals in the previous administration?

How did they obstruct him and his DoJ from prosecuting Wall St. banksters?

Get me a clear answer for those 2 questions and then you might seem like you can "think before you post."


Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

Ape-Man's picture

That's two examples, where many progressives object to the Presidents actions, but they don't exactly demonstrate that the President is a republican.

One example where the President preventing his Presidency from becoming tied up in dealing with prosecuting political elites, while the country was slipping into depression. That's not an indication that the President is a secret republican.
One of helping out Wall Street, where letting them fail would have plunged the country into a depression. Again, not an indication that he is a secret republican.

There is an overlap between the two parties, that's for sure, but see my post below at 1/29/12 5:59pm, for a short list of the many differences between the republicans and the President.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

dixie blood's picture

I'm not complaining that he's a RePugniScum or even "secret" RePugniScum (whatever that means?)

I'm pointing out that there are some actions he did not persue that were NOT obstructed by RePugniScums. I'm very tired of this BS that the RePugniScums blocked EVERYTHING in his first 3 years in office. They blocked a lot but not his DoJ.


Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.

Ape-Man's picture

Those two you mentioned are interesting subjects. If you bring them up in the open thread we can discuss what he could have done differently.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Ape-Man's picture

Umm... not really. There are some unsettling similarities between the President and the republicans, but there are also plenty of differences when you take a look - republicans do not believe in women's rights, minorities rights, social safety nets, workers rights, unions, equal pay for women, minimum wage, child labor laws, fair taxes, public schools, or public services like libraries, PBS, postal service, and helping college students get an education. They don't believe in renewable energy, man made climate change, evolution, or the separation of church and state. They don't believe in nuclear disarmament treaties, and they do believe in a hot war with Iran. Republicans don't believe in the separation of powers in Washington. Republicans believe in voter caging, election fraud, redistricting, and voter suppression of minorities. Those are just a few of the differences.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Heres a fact:

"(Tom) Schieffer ... friend and former business partner of President George W. Bush. [...] is younger brother of Bob Schieffer, a CBS News reporter and host of Face the Nation. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Schieffer

Funny how they are ALL related ... eecch ...


I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...

Kreskin's picture

Reince Priebus , the name says it all . Take one look at him , like most Republicons they're freakish and abnormal looking , can spot em a mile away .


Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .

Crustyolcarpenter's picture

I was thinking it sounds like the product of some sort if invasive, forced medical procedure gone wrong.


The first casualty of republicanism is the truth.
Party politics are not only undemocratic, they are antidemocratic.

Ape-Man's picture

They are all products of a 'Manchurian' like process.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Ape-Man's picture

Yes. I have noticed that too. They don't all have that cut and greased black hair, but most do, and of the ones that don't, many had black hair that is now gray or white. They almost all have the same dark suits and lapel pins. I keep expecting them to begin sporting arm bands too. The similarities don't stop there though. There definitely is a physical as well as mental component to their madness.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

RGKahn's picture

I'm so glad that he can see that but for the rest of us, not so much. Remember that the republican majority in the House and the republican minority both want this President to fail and for this government to fail so they can come to the rescue and save us from them.

Ape-Man's picture

Let's face it. Even the best meaning of todays republicans are like children living in a 'group think' fantasy bubble. In fact Republicans are all 'psycho' by clinical standards to some degree. None of them should be anywhere near Washington and the reins of power. We have had our doubts about the republican party for years, but the last few years had made it perfectly clear that we are dealing with a huge problem. Republicans are a clear and present danger - a menace to society and the American people.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Blue Lensman's picture

Apologies to the real Quasimodo, of course.

Steve E's picture

our Captain America. He brings us "hope and change" and protects the banksters.

Bluestocking's picture

...I really can't agree with your opinion that Obama is comparable to Captain "Sully" Sullenberger. Granted, he's no Captain Schettino -- frankly, I agree that George W. Bush was our Captain Schettino because he spent money on the wars like a drunken sailor on shore leave and then left the mess for his successor to clean up (as he had done several times in the past). However, at least in my opinion, claiming that Obama has succeeded in pulling off the kind of save that Sullenberger did (which was nothing short of miraculous) is giving him quite a bit more credit that he really deserves.


Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.

karoli's picture

Because I think getting any version of health care and financial reforms through the Congress along with the largest stimulus package in history before the ship sank was nothing short of miraculous.

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Are you familiar with the stealth bailout of the banks contained in the ARRA of January '09 that amounted to hundreds of billions not counted in any of the published numbers? Not counted because it involved credits thereafter to be realized.

Very few people are. It has been completely ignored by the media except for a Washington Post article on November 10 '08 here.

Hank Paulson cut the then illegal deal in mid September '08.

The ARRA made it legal.

Linda M Beale - Professor of Law Wayne State University in Detroit - here


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Are you familiar with the stealth bailout of the banks contained in the ARRA of January '09……

No reply. You are under-researched.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Peter G's picture

after a rare cancer of the t'aint? I wouldn't wish rheince priebus on anyone.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

Bitter Bud Hussein's picture

Captain Stubing?

"Exciting and New!"


Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.

Schiefer is a GOPer/corporatist pimp. If you expect journalistic integrity from him you are going to be disappointed.

campaign regardless of who their nominee might be.. Attack the president for campaigning instead of governing. This is, of course, what the Republicans have been doing since the last presidential election. I do not expect many media types will point out this particular inconvenient truth.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

bmw 528's picture

Hopefully there is a modern day Fletcher Christian left in the Republiborg cult that can exile this imbecile with a name that sounds like a toxic fungus.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

angryspittle's picture

Reince Priebus.

Sounds like a Oriental hybrid import that needs a recall for faulty wiring.

Truth Without Fear's picture

Miss me yet???

Santorum licker...

pmb50's picture

No democrat or member of the media ever makes a fuck bag like Preibus account for their heinous rantings. I bet Schieffer and the republican outrage machine would have been singing a different tune if a democrat ;ole DWS said this about bush

soccertom52's picture

little Bob Schieffer about this BS. This is beyond inappropriate. People died in that shipwreck, and these little twerps think it is okay to joke about it. Please let CBS News that you are offended by their lack of maturity.

cycle3man's picture

Reince Priebus= delusional and stupid

"Is it unreasonable to expect the press, especially respected members of the press like CBS News' Bob Schieffer, to hold guests to account when they make ridiculous, incendiary, defamatory statements about the President of the United States? Evidently it's only unreasonable when Democrats do it about Republicans,"

Can you cite an example of when a "repected member of the press" held a Democrat in a similar position accountable for similar remarks?

I can only think of a few occaisions when respected members of the press held anyone accountable.
You actually expect a moderator, hosting someone invited to be on the show, to tell them their remarks are
ridiculous, incendiary, and defammatory? Seriously?

Howard Dean got in some licks as DNC chair, and I kinda wish he had compared Bush to Captain Joseph Hazelwood myself, say after Katrina.


“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder

scooter's picture

I am so sick of the level of disrespect that our President takes from repubs. This is beyond shameful. Having a difference of opinion is one thing - showing this level of disrespect illustrates the underlying racism that is prevelant in America. It's OK to tell off the black in the White House.

Steve E's picture

a corporate bag licker?

jimbo92107's picture

He would have complained to the airline about getting wet.

littlebrowndog's picture

He would have complained to the airline about getting wet.

If Sully were the Democratic President, the Republicans would complain bitterly that he failed to save the plane.

On the other hand, if any of the Republican primary candidates had been flying the plane, they'd've started emergency procedures by pushing the passengers off in mid-flight. Newt would start with the children.

g-man's picture

Over 3 years ago. Funny how George Bush keeps getting a free pass for his mishandling the ship of state. RNC Chair Rince Priepuss must have thought all day to come up with his pathetic analogy. Its your party Sir that spends the people's money like a drunken sailor. We have the charts and paperwork to prove it.

CFAmick's picture

The stupidity hurts. Is there something in the water? Everywhere I go, the lowest common denominator is not only accepted, but championed. I'm tired of it.

lewmanbubba's picture

look Prebitch congress is your cowardly captain and who the fuck are you anyway. The guy who replacxed the N@#$$r

Dave Beaudoin's picture

Reince is only a tool for his owners. But, given that, what upset me the most is that I have no memory of anyone in the DNC making such a disparaging remark about President Bush. I may be wrong and if anyone can show this then I would love to see it.

I constantly receive e-mails from my Conservative friends taht allude to the fallacy of Democrats automatically going nasty. The only empirical evidence I see comes from the Republicans.

It is sad that they have to debase the conversation to make up for their small penises -- yes, you too Sarah.

Buddhabreath's picture

Jezuz F. Christ - is EVERY Republican a fucking low-life traitorous power-hungry pile of toxic shit? WTF? WTF I ASK!!!

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