AP Still Kneecapping Obama
By Nicole Belle Thursday Oct 30, 2008 2:05pmGotta love that "librul media"...
Daily Kos:
What can one say about the Associated Press these days? Rather than realize the error of their ways in becoming a conservative mouthpiece out of their D.C. office rather than an objective news source, they've apparently doubled down their bets on McCain's dying presidential campaign.
Just moments after Obama's detailed, inspirational video tonight, the AP's McCain-loving Washington Bureau came out with their latest piece:
Obama's prime-time ad skips over budget realities
Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was less than upfront in his half-hour commercial Wednesday night about the costs of his programs and the crushing budget pressures he would face in office.
Obama's assertion that "I've offered spending cuts above and beyond" the expense of his promises is accepted only by his partisans. His vow to save money by "eliminating programs that don't work" masks his failure throughout the campaign to specify what those programs are — beyond the withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
What follows is a detailed hit-piece on multiple fronts that reads as if it were taken straight from the RNC. The whole thing would be hilarious in is disingenuity, were it not such a sad piece of hackery, and were the stakes not so incredibly high.
AP is also the outfit that heavily weighted the evangelical vote to give McCain a much closer chance in their presidential polls.
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Can we say that, when you can't trust tv news, can't trust elected officials, can't trust judges, can't trust whole governmental departments, can't trust banks, can't trust Wall Street, can't trust the President and can't trust newspapers - that we'rer no longer operating in a democracy?
pretty much...
You know people keep asking me why I hate the AP, and I used to say:
Because they drop my football team in the polls every week, even though my team wins every week.
I have a much better reason to hate the AP now.
they're losing it fast with me... I don't believe them and question ANYthing I see written by or referenced to them. At one time, I believed they were the defacto standard in truth-telling and integrity; not they're a defacto standard in truthiness.
But let's be real about campaign promises.
You can't trust 'em.
Well it's official, McCain's final surprise to spring on Obama is one we expected for awhile. Other than of course AP kneecapping... the McCain campaign is going to spring for national (run til the end of the election) ads presenting Rev. Wright and 'Obama had no problem..."
We knew it would get ugly. McCain, mister 'honorable,' shows his true colors as coward and hate monger.
right onto McSame's little pointed head, you just wait and see.
Seriously the more and more the hate rises in those "Country First" rallies the more I keep worrying about the level headed citizens of America. We are the choir here, yes it didn't work in the primaries, and I hope it will not work and Obama gets in as our new President. But will it spill over out into the backwood conspiracy loons? Will this kind of campaign gamble of McCain's result in the death/murder of a new President?
The $3.1 Trillion does not include the various bailouts or the cost the 'war' in Iraq.
The deficit in 2009 very nearly will equal the 'Defense' budget and ALL of the other discretionary spending in that budget, ie $1.2 Trillion.
That means in order to balance the budget we would need to cancel EVERYTHING except for the mandated expenditures.
We are in deep doo doo.
In fairness to the politicians, if they told the truth they would never get elected.
As for the AP, they have given up on journalism, per se.
"What follows is a detailed hit-piece on multiple fronts that reads as if it were taken straight from the RNC."
Hell, it sounds more like the RNC wrote it.
Geezus, it's easy to complain about what Obama didn't say. It was an infomercial and it was only 1/2 hour. AP along with the rest, should try printing something about what he did say. I didn't say that the AP is a F**king tool for the right wing nuts, did I?
The bias is disgusting. They are completely transparent and unrepentant about it and they present these ridiculous opinion pieces as fact.
How I long for the days when a journalist would have been raked over the coals for daring to even file such a biased and unprofessional piece.
Bill's offhand mention of Kos as a hate site on the left.
I read things on Kos frequently, I am either blindly biased, or I do not see hate there. Mr O'Rieilly you are clearly one sided and clearly wrong, over and over again. You are an arrogant self righteous, and rude bully.
I guess saying that, you would qualify me as a hate filled left winger. Sir, there is profound difference between hate and anger.
What did they want, another Ross Perot moment with all the graphs and tables? This was a get to know me ad, not an address to all the economists sitting home with their families.
They are going to go the way of the Dodo.
They are screwing their subscribers (the newspapers and outlets) by changing their price structure and several notable newspapers have canceled their contracts (including the Chicago Tribune, that pretty Republican local rag of mine, which, for the first time in its history, endorsed a Democrat).
Buh bye AP. You suck. No great loss. No loss whatsoever.
bottom of post - "give McCain a much closer chance in their presidential polls."
is there supposed to be a link here?
I felt like I was going to be sick to my stomach reading this stupid article. I think i've been force fed too much stupid in this past year... But yeah, I was just sitting here reading it thinking, "why aren't they even attempting to put on an unbiased charade? Have they just given up trying to pretend that they aren't in the tank for McCain or the Repubs?"
FYI, don't forget Rachel has an interview tonight that she taped earlier with Obama. And for a little good news, Al and Tipper Gore will be here in Florida tomorrow campaigning for Obama. This is the kind of news you can believe in. :)
....that make me see Obama as the only choices. One of the most recent is,
I picture Obama, Michelle and the kids out walking on the front lawn of the white house, or poising for a "First Family" photo.....
THEN.................
I see the Palin crew doing the same thing and the views are distinctly different. One is of a family that appears grounded, happy, grateful for what they have.
THE OTHER............
Quite dysfunctional. There's the Diva in whatever "sassy...look at me" poise, the first dude who's doing pretty much the same. Then, there is the mom to be looking all of 7 months and the hockey puck, checking out the eskimo kitchen help, with one hand on her ass.
Bristol is licking her hand, in preparation of patting down Trigs hair, which is now shoulder length. There's a moose sticking out of the bushes and a gardner, dressed up in a troopers uniform.
Who best displays the type of occupants you want in the White House.
of the Palin clan. Truly terrifying stuff.
I see Obama and Michelle up on the stage next Tuesday night as balloons are falling and the music plays loud. Everyone is smiling and hugging and crying with happiness. If it isn't too late the little girls will be there on the stage with their mom and dad. None of us will be able to sleep because we will be so excited.
I want to see that picture so so so bad.
The whole planet is with you guys on this.
i must give AP some credit - or my local daily for printing it - but the other day the following article appeared, and on the front page!
(the link to atlanta paper is for source only - i am in s.central illinois)
Rumors increase in last days of campaigns
‘A great American tradition’: Candidates have battled nasty smears since the nation’s beginnings and 2008 is no different.
By Martha Mendoza
Associated Press
Tuesday, October 28, 2008
Barack Obama is not a member of a socialist party. John McCain is not a foreigner. Sarah Palin is not Trig’s grandmother. And Joe Biden is not dropping out of the race.
Oh, and they’re not all having sordid affairs.
But it’s Rumor Season again, and with just days to go before the election, both campaigns are frantically knocking down these rumors along with a steady stream of other nasty hints and allegations that range from the questionable to the outrageous.
[...]
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedit...
not much, i know, but it's SOMEthing...
i'd written several letters to my paper and always manage to mention the bias of the AP and the paper's reliance on that source exclusively...
it was a pleasant surprise to see that article - and i did write and thank the editor for including it...
it was a much needed piece of information here in my very red, red-neck racist corner of illinois...
I thought it was the Moonie Loonies that owned the AP, and if so, then they are owned by one of the world's premiere weapons manufacturers. From what a cop told me in a pawn shop once is that they (the Moonies) make some highly coveted weapons/hand guns.
the United Press International ( UPI)
UPI not AP. Thanks Jo! I appreciate the correction.
this isn't relevant or even perhaps necessary but native peoples from the far north are known as Inuit.
The term Eskimo is derogatory and is not used.
I really don't give a damn what the brain dead palin's say. They are only good as a bad example anyway.
and i meant to say, that i would also make remarks that the paper didn't seem to want to do anything about the lies and misinformation, and that people really needed to search out better sources of info...
it didn't look as if that article got widely printed... maybe my paper was doing me a favor...
Many undecideds will move toward Obama following his 30 minute spot last night and we will begin seeing it tomorrow and over the weekend.
By Monday, McCain's campaign will be totally derailed.
Case in point: Today: McCain had to bus in 4,000 school kids to make it look like he had a respectable audience. This is the stuff of total chicanery, folks.
Hope Obama has a good idea who he wants to head up the FCC.
A local FOX affiliate had the story (again) about the weak-ass "Assassination plot" against Obama, replete with pictures...gee, I wonder why they're putting out that idea? To be fair and balanced, they they cut to a story of a person, somewhere, being forced by local authorities to remove a Sarah Palin effigy being hung from their gutters.
Gonna be a fun 4 years.
McCain, his lovely wife Cindy and barracuda Sarah are all complicit in unleashing this wave of hatred.
It ain't going away just because there is an election. Far from it. It can only get worse.
Killed from the inside by Republican corruption.
i'm REAL glad that palin effigy came down... i thought it came down on the first day it was shown... too bad it got any more exposure...
i don't care who or what it is, ANYthing hanging like that is sick.
"AP Still Kneecapping Obama" Ater reading that headline, one excepts to have read that the AP had had the temerity to call Obama a neoconservative or, [God forbid], a socialist. But what one finds is that the AP simply had the audacity to inquire how Obama plans to save money "by eliminating programs that don't work". The AP posed a legitimate question. Which programs that Obama is proposing will save this country money? Even withdrawing the troops will not amount to much as many of those troops will be remaining in Iraq while others will be redeployed at the so-called "good war" in Afghanistan.
But since the [alleged] anti-war candidate voted to continue funding the war in Iraq, that money will be added to the cost that the taxpayers in this country must eventually pay. This post talks of disingenuity as if it is disingenuous to ask of a presidential candidate questions about his budget process. The beatification of Barack Obama continues anew as it appears that the last thing that liberals would wish Americans to ask is that their candidate account for the promises that he has put forth.
I believe that I gave an answer above.
Ron
The question remains: Are the media, or anyone else for that matter, allowed to criticize Obama? The media, both mainstream and on the Internet, have been all over, justifiably, McCain and his less than able sidekick Sarah Palin. Yet it appears that if anyone dares to raise legitimate questions about Obama and his ambiguous claims of hope and change, then one is excoriated as being unfair to the Democratic candidate. I believe that you mentioned that Obama did not have time to become specific because he only had a half hour."Only" a half hour? This was not a three minute ad; rather, it went on for a full thirty minutes. I think the AP was well within their rights to inquire of Obama concerning his budget proposals. Did you actually think that Obama should have run a full half hour ad and not have the media scrutinize what he said? If McCain had done the same thing, one can certainly bet that the media would have analyzed every word that he said. That is what is done when one runs for the office of the president and I do not believe that Barack Obama should be exempted from that same type of examination.
Hell, I'm just voting for Obama in an effot to keep the Repiglicans out of office, as are a large number of others.
I hope that Obama can rise to the occasion and surprise me, but I doubt it.
Third party votes won't keep the Republicans out of the Whitehouse at the present time.
it's bullshit.
I was listening to a station which runs AP Radio news at the top and bottom of the hour yesterday. All day long they were reporting that the World Series game start was being delayed (by FOX!) because of Obama's 30 minute campaign commercial. They never reported that FOX denied the accusation, and they never reported that they always start the night games at 8:30 (Eastern), and that only the pre-game show was pre-empted.
TV still has some Truth to it.
I also think it is not right that you excoriate the AP because they ask a valid question.
In my opinion, they should be asking a lot more questions.
Let's start with one for you, though, Ron. What did Obama say during his infomercial that was new, except that NOW only people earning $200,00 or less will receive a tax cut, (instead of $250,000, which I saw him say last week at one of his rallies). Of course, Joe Biden, truthteller that he is, mentions that the number is really going to be $150,000.
Second question: How low does that number have to go before your "tax cut" goes away and you become one of the taxed "haves"?
Because I suspect that they are just "testing the bottom" and they have not yet found the number above which you will be taxed more. After all, Obama has said that he will have to tax in order to pay for all his programs. He has discovered, however, that we have discovered that his numbers do not add up (check his spreadsheet on his website if you really want to know what AP is talking about), so now Obama has to keep trying out new numbers on us until he finds a number that we will "believe in" so that we won't question him anymore. It seems that way to me, at least, and it seems to me that his campaign relies way too much on us blindly "believing".
I recently stopped blindly believing and now that I am looking up a few things, frankly McCain is looking better and Obama is not looking so good. Not kidding.
I think it's disgusting that Obama had to PAY between $4 and $5 million dollars for that 30 minutes and then Larry King gave McCain a whole HOUR for FREE to whine and complain and accuse Obama of getting all those donations from people with phony credit cards. We KNOW McCain doesn't know what he's talking about when he says NONE of those online and credit card donations are traceable, but too many of his RABID "friends" will continue and build on those insinuations just the same.
If the AP, which is suppose to be a news source, wants to play politics then people should stop using it as a news source. Only way to hurt these guys is to hit them financially. Several newspapers in the northeast are dropping AP. People that care about this should find a way to hurt them financially. Send letters to the editors to the newspapers that pay for their service may be an example. Tell them you will stop reading their newspaper unless the drop AP. However, hard for newspapers to do this, as most newspapers are laying off newsroom staff to cut costs and therefore need these third party news sources even more.
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