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We've known for some time that Fox News is merely the propaganda arm for the GOP. However, they usually couch their partisanship with claims of being "fair and balanced" and token ineffectual Democrats. But Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace was perhaps a little unintentionally forthright about where his loyalties lay in Sunday's interview with House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer on Congress's priority to pass the Employee Free Choice Act.

WALLACE: Big Labor’s top priority is what’s called “union card check” and that would be eliminating the right to a secret ballot in determining whether or not you’re going to organize, unionize a working place. [laughs] I love the way you’re smiling already. Are you going to move on that in the first month?

HOYER: I’m smiling because of the way you phrased it. It’s the Free Choice Act, of course, and what it does is …

WALLACE: Well, “union card check”, Free Choice, both sides have their euphemisms.

HOYER: Of course, and you use one side. That’s why I was smiling…[laughs]

WALLACE: And you used the other.

Sadly, Wallace obviously has access to the GOP talking points soundbytes that the Democrats are never savvy enough to replicate. Nice, neat, and sound sensible if a little weak on facts. "Union card check" sounds like something a Dem-voting life-long union member would be leery of. But Hoyer never retorts in a way that eliminates this fear. The Employee Free Choice Act simply gives the employees the right to decide whether to unionize, rather than the company. It's easy to understand and say, right? But instead, Hoyer gives this mush-mouthed reply:

HOYER: Well, okay, my point being that we believe that one of the problems that has existed in America is that working people have had a very, very difficult time in getting represented by unions in the work place. Work place has resisted that. The NLRB has not been very vigorous in assuring the lack of unfair labor practices. We believe that the employees…if over 50% of them sign and say that we want to be represented by a union, they ought to be able to be represented by a union. Let me say that many, many employers currently, under existing law, recognize such signatures right now and start to bargain and have a union representative.

C'mon, guys, it's bad enough that you go on Fox, can't you do a little prep work to be able to respond to the Republican framing first?

Transcripts below the fold:

WALLACE: Let’s talk about the rest of your agenda. There’s talk that you want to move quickly on what’s called “low hanging fruit,” to pass the measures that could get bipartisan support and move through Congress quickly. Expansion of the State Children’s Health Program, or S-CHIP.

HOYER: We’re looking at…we passed that bill as you know, through the House handily. It passed through the Senate with two-thirds majority and it was vetoed by the President. We think it’s critical to move quickly on ensuring that children in this country have availability of health care. So yes, that’s going to be an early bill for us. I’m not going to put a time frame on it, but I expect to see that bill early. There’s some other things that we have to do. We’re going to complete the ‘08/’09 appropriations process, that needs to be done early. We’re going to address the Lily Ledbetter and the pay equity issues…

WALLACE: That’s to give women more time to sue for pay equity.

HOYER: That’s correct. So that women are not precluded, or others are not precluded from recovering damages simply because they don’t know what their fellow employees are making, and that they’re being discriminated against. When they find out, they ought to be able to have the opportunity to get redress of that grievance.

WALLACE: Big Labor’s top priority is what’s called “union card check” and that would be eliminating the right to a secret ballot in determining whether or not you’re going to organize, unionize a working place. [laughs] I love the way you’re smiling already. Are you going to move on that in the first month?

HOYER: I’m smiling because of the way you phrased it. It’s the Free Choice Act, of course, and what it does is …

WALLACE: Well, “union card check”, Free Choice, both sides have their euphemisms.

HOYER: Of course, and you use one side. That’s why I was smiling…[laughs]

WALLACE: And you used the other.

HOYER: Well, okay, my point being that we believe that one of the problems that has existed in America is that working people have had a very, very difficult time in getting represented by unions in the work place. Work place has resisted that. The NLRB has not been very vigorous in assuring the lack of unfair labor practices. We believe that the employees…if over 50% of them sign and say that we want to be represented by a union, they ought to be able to be represented by a union. Let me say that many, many employers currently, under existing law, recognize such signatures right now and start to bargain and have a union representative.

WALLACE: Whatever you call it, Senator, are you going to pass it in the first month?

HOYER: I don’t know about the first month, but we’re going to pass it early.

WALLACE: You had talked about…when we last talked about this, in November, you talked about the possibility of a compromise that would recognize the fact that there should not be unreasonable delays in giving an election, but on the other hand, maybe not taking away the secret ballot from workers in a company. Is there a compromise out there? Or are you prepared to take away the secret ballot?

HOYER: Again, let me stress, Chris, nobody is going to take away the secret ballot. The employees currently have and will have the opportunity to opt for a secret ballot. They don’t have to sign the card. They can say, look, we’ll have an election and we may vote, but they have that choice right now and will continue to have that choice.

WALLACE: But you want to pass the bill, just to be clear here, that unions, that labor, AFL-CIO is talking about, the Employee Free Choice Act, which would create a one step system, a public vote on whether or not to unionize?

HOYER: A public vote? You mean a signing of the card which says I want the union to represent me…

WALLACE: Yes. Right.

HOYER: What I have said, and I said it on your program, and will reiterate, that bill that passed the House handily is certainly going to be the base bill. Will there be discussions? They may well be discussions and again, I want to stress, nobody is precluding having a secret ballot. What we are saying is that an alternative route will be available and if employees choose to sign, over 50% of the employees sign a card saying we want to be represented by the union then that will be effected.

WALLACE: Give me a sense of the timeframe. You said maybe not the first month, how soon?

HOYER: Well, I think it will be early. It will be early in the year, certainly in the early spring. Right now, obviously, our major, major focus is getting people back to work, getting our economy moving, making sure that our working people can get back to work and we start creating those three million jobs President-elect Obama has talked about. So that’s a priority item for us.



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Hoyer is the neoliberal poster child.

He is actively undermining our rights as Americans under the Constitution.

You expect him to be on our side?

Mike Wallace once said he was embarrassed by his winger kid.

)O(

Doesn't it have an official name? What is it?

Employee Free choice Act

)O(

Then wallis is a lame-wad.

More to my liking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMbAPj69p8Q

If they were fair and balanced, wouldn't they use the official name of the bill? Oh, it's Faux.

with corporate money, most Dems are only Rethugs in sheeps clothing. Does anyone think, really, that they want "THE PEOPLE" to have any power whatsoever?

Come on, Hoyer. Tell us what you REALLY think of the great unwashed masses. Your contempt is palpable.

Leadership nailed it

Yep:

HOYER: Of course, and you use one side. That’s why I was smiling…[laughs]

WALLACE: And you used the other.

Thus does Wallace lay down the marker with blithe contempt comparable to Chee-knee's "So?" Wallace is a Republican tool.

HOYER: Of course, and you use one side. That’s why I was smiling…[laughs]

WALLACE: And you used the other.

HOYER'S RESPONSE IF HE WERE SHARP: But I'm a partisan, you're supposed to be a journalist. If you had any journalistic credibility or ethics, you'd have referred to the bill by its actual name instead of by the name handed down to you by the GOP's talking points.

Hoyer's gonna show some spine on Faux Noise?

Your fingernails will grow around and pierce your palms before that happens...

Thats why I put the big 'IF'

Barney Frank ought to be the only member of the House allowed to speak to propagandists. He names their game the instant they play it and doesn't leave them any wiggle room. If these corporatist type "Democrats" are allowed to speak, they invariably end up strengthening the arguments of the propagandists. Which...isn't surprising, since they are all on the same team.

Why doesn't somebody stick a sharp knee into Wallace's doughy groin?

)O(

Would ann couter do that for us?

"Wallace obviously has access to the GOP talking points soundbytes that the Democrats are never savvy enough to replicate. Nice, neat, and sound sensible if a little weak on facts. "Union card check" sounds like something a Dem-voting life-long union member would be leery of"
this sound like the work of Frank Luntz, the repube word spinner that has made soooo many bad policies sound sompletely different just by tweaking a few words. the right has used this trick to sell the country on policies that have led us to the sad state we are in today.

What do suppose Chris Wallace thinks about his Union. If I remember correctly, they have some of the best medical benefits in the country. Ain't it just like a greedy jerk to want to deny other people the kind of life that he enjoys. If history is correct, don't employers usually take any attempt at unionizing out on the employees?

feeling aas he does about unions, he should quit AFTRA...

Sure, that might mean he couldn't work...

But "So What?"

I think I read or heard where Fox News is a non union shop. Maybe I'm wrong.

It would certainly be a surprise for FOX to be non union since much of the support staff, (camera, sound, videographers etc.) type of personel are probably in unions so they can work at/on other projects that might not involve FOX. The people in the industry don't usually limit themselves to the whims of one production company, and the entertainment unions are pretty strict about their definition of union shops. Then there's always the Teamsters who usually have an involvement when it comes to "traveling news crews."

between Steny Hoyer and a beanbag chair?

when sat or stepped on.

As long as employees can vote anonymously (secret ballot), I don't have much problem with the bill. An early version called for immediate unionization based on the number of people who signed union cards, and I opposed this strenuously.

The current law is biased toward management. The early version was biased toward unions. A secret ballot based on cards signed (without the time for management to mount its counter-offensive) is fair, as long as management gets the opportunity to contest invalid cards signed by those who are not true hourly workers.

An early version called for immediate unionization based on the number of people who signed union cards, and I opposed this strenuously.

that's the point of it. Workers want a union, and get one, without the bosses having a chance to get in there and fuck it up?

What's not to like?

If you have a boss, you need a Union!

I don't understand the problem
Organizers have been calling it card check for a very long time.
The bogus claim in that exchange is that it eliminates the right to a secret ballot.
Chris Wallace is an enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus.

)O(

The problem is that "card check" is an euphemisms and "Free Choice Act" is the actual title of the bill and Wallace is to frigging stupid to be able to tell the difference.

Gotcha.

You mean just an (big) lying asshole sitting in a chair?

How dumb can Chris Wallace be? Pretty frigging dumb obviously! One of those "euphemisms" is the actual title of the Congressional Bill, the other is an actual euphemism and the dumb ignorant old fool can't see the difference there!!

And Steny (oh, how I hate that corrupt career politician asshole) didn't even call Wallace out on it. Probably so he would get to come on the show again and give himself a reason to go back to the hair stylist and tanning salon. Fucker.

hoping that most of his audience is too stupid to see which is euphemistic. Sadly, most of his audience can't tell.

You forgot to issue your disclosure prior to this interview that you are a paid shill of the GOP. I look forward to hearing this the next time you do your fairly unbalanced reporting.

Oh that's right, this is Fox News---where you make up the rules as you go along to placate your corporate masters. And BTW, the only thing that is different from you and Pravda is the people you are responsible to--you just suck up to the Neocon corporate greedmeisters instead of the Kremlin.

I'd ask you to do the right thing but I know that's impossible. I doubt if they could reboot your corrupted Neocon chip and have you and your android collegues ever speak the truth.

Never mind.

I'm pro-union, but I've already seen card check abused by an unscrupulous union. It's a dangerous tool in the wrong hands.

The question is, how can the law be written to criminalize abuse?

and power tools...

/snark

WALLACE: "Well, “union card check”, Free Choice, both sides have their euphemisms."

Or,both sides adhere to what they believe is "politically correct" yet only Liberals are taken to task on the subject.It is also clear in this case,that it is Wallace doing the framing for purely ideological reasons,which is not the proper province of a so called journalist.

Where were the "journalists" who should have asked Bush, the Republicans, and 1/3 of the Democrats about the Government Spying On You and Keeping Track of Everything You Do Act?

Or where were the ones to ask about the Authorization to Kill 100,000 Iraqi Civilians and Decimate Their Whole Country While Looting the Treasury Act?

Since I won't watch Faux I wouldn't even know that this idiot wallace even exists. But he is the perfect example of the way overpaid talking liars.
You can see he has no problem saying anything he get paid to say.
I don't understand why anyone bothers with these overpaid liars?

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