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Excuse Me, Who Won The Nobel Peace Prize?

When I woke up and opened my email box, I have to admit I first thought it was some sort of Onion spoof – Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize? Oh c’mon, where’s the punchline? But less than a half a cup of coffee later, I realized, bloody hell, this actually has happened!

Barack Obama, with less than a year in office, has won the Nobel Peace Prize, only the fourth US president to win it, after Teddy Roosevelt (1906), Woodrow Wilson (1919), and Jimmy Carter (2002), and the first sitting president since Wilson. Ostensibly, Obama has won it for "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples,” and specifically in recognition of his efforts to work toward a nuclear weapons-free world…

Well, obviously, they had to give it to him for a specific reason, and there’s certainly a lot of validity in the ones the Norwegian Nobel Committee decided on. But the Nobel Prize has always been political, which leaves it open to many who have complained about certain recipients in the past – Yasser Arafat and Henry Kissinger probably the most notable of controversial winners. However, Arafat’s and Kissinger’s detractors were their already sworn enemies, primarily Israel, so no real surprise there. But the instant denunciation of Obama’s worthiness has been, astonishingly enough, our own people. Our fellow Americans. Citizens of the United States who should be thrilled to bits Obama has won this incredible distinction and at a time when it is so crucial for America’s battered standing in the world community.

Larisa Alexandrovna, in her blog article, “Republicanistan - A country of its own” gives a great run-down on the scale of venomous spewing from the right, from Malkin’s spittle flecked incoherence to Limbaugh’s OxyContin and Viagra fuelled rage, along with all those who cheered when Chicago lost the Olympics, who have openly expressed the hope Obama’s policies will fail, regardless of how much that would hurt the country, those flag-waving, gun-toting patriots who have called for a military coup – a military coup! – to oust a legitimate and democratically elected leader of our own country. They must destroy the village to save the village. Their war on Obama takes no prisoners, even if the entire country itself should end up as a fatality.

Yet I would suggest that is it exactly these people – yes, these hate-mongering, stark raving loony-toon seething cabal of gibbering wingnuts at the head of the marching moronic army of stoopid peepul – who are directly responsible for Obama’s surprising win.

You heard me right. We can honestly and wholeheartedly thank the Rabid Rightwing for Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize. Thank you, Rush, from the bottom of my heart. Thank you, Michelle. I thank you with grateful tears in my eyes, Beck and Hannity and O’Reilly and Tweety and Bachmann and Palin and Erik Erickson and Jonah and all the rest of you birthers and deathers and Fox-driven demagogues. I really mean that – this wouldn’t have been possible without you. This Nobel Peace Prize won’t make you STFU, alas, but it sure as hell has been an outright repudiation of your psychotic hatred and goes a long, long way to shrinking your noise down to a shrill impotent squeak.

Many of my American friends who have travelled outside the States over the past decade have brought back anecdotes on how they were apologetically introduced at conferences as ‘one of the good kind of Americans’, or suffered at best teasing, at worst, denunciation for our country’s behavior under the Bush regime. I've been living outside the States for over twenty years now, and seen over that period of time how our reputation has deteriorated from being the usual generic 'Ugly American' to being outright hated, loathed and despised during Bush, it was visceral. I have been physically attacked, run off the road (had a small American flag on the back window of my car, silly me), spat on, and denied service in shops - because I was American. And this was the UK - can you imagine the hatred somewhere Americans are really disliked? At one point, when asked, I lied and said I was Canadian - I was fed up with feeling on the defensive all the time. But that level of animosity was very unusual, it had never happened to me before Bush, and it was heartbreaking how so many of my friends felt the need to find ways to exclude me from the general loathing, it was shameful to be an American.

In 2008, 14% of Germans, 13% of French, and 16% of the British expressed any confidence in George Bush. Less than nine months into Obama’s administration, those numbers have skyrocketed – a whopping 93% of Germans, 91% in France, 86% in the UK. And it’s not just our traditional allies who are looking more kindly on us these days, either.

...Europeans weren't alone -- more than 80% in Canada, Japan and South Korea expressed confidence in Obama. Majorities in Brazil, Argentina and Mexico, where Bush had been overwhelmingly unpopular, also gave Obama positive marks. And even in countries where Bush had been relatively popular, such as India and Nigeria, Obama's ratings were higher.

Obama's personal connection to Indonesia -- he lived there for several years as a child -- clearly had an impact on his image there: 71% rated him favorably. However, in other predominantly Muslim countries, views toward Obama were more lukewarm. The new president is more popular than Bush among Middle Eastern Muslims, but on balance he receives more negative reviews than positive ones in places such as Lebanon, Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian territories. And in Pakistan -- a nation at the center of foreign policy debates in the United States -- only 13% believe Obama will do the right thing in international affairs.

The relief and even joy I saw in Kiwis here in New Zealand when Obama was elected was overwhelming. There was actual partying in the streets, and they couldn't even vote for the man. I went from being regarded as a member of one of the most despised and dishonoured countries in the world to having people say 'good on ya, mate!' and buying me drinks in celebration when they found out that I was (a) an American and (b) voted for Obama. What an incredible turnaround in such a short time.

Yeah, yeah, nuclear arms, international diplomacy, cooperation between peoples, yada yada, whatever. We all know the real reasons. The world has had enough of the rabid right wing corruption that blighted our country under the Bush administration. And while it’s not all that clear yet whether or not Obama was born to greatness, the international committee along with the rest of the world is sure as hell wholeheartedly trying to thrust greatness upon him.

Larisa Alexandrovna has hit it right on the mark when she says, ‘When that recipient happens to be the leader of a nation - representing his country all over the world - then that honor is also bestowed on the citizens of that nation.’

Yup, Obama didn’t win this Nobel Peace Prize. America did.



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Mullah Rush.

Been used. Mullah Huckabee.

than to a pope. Thus technically there can be more than one. So both of these assholes can share the Mullah status they so crave.

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Obama didn't ask for the Noble prize, it was given to him. Whether he earned it or not is immaterial. The President inherited two crappy wars and a fucked up economy that he didn't earn either.

I think he earned it just by speaking out for a nuclear free world and good relations with Russia.

in Europe just by making friends with Russia and the Muslim world. And they obviously appreciate it. But as for it being premature, I think the 1.4 million dollars that goes along with the prize (which Obama is going to donate to charity) is supposed to fund future efforts.

"The President inherited two crappy wars and a fucked up economy that he didn't earn either."

Yes, but he earned a ton of political capital that's remained unspent and dwindling.

I understand...Obama alone is fucking this whole thing up. The Conservatives try to give their party's NO-BAMA mentality a free ride too.

(....."Yet I would suggest that is it exactly these people – yes, these hate-mongering, stark raving loony-toon seething cabal of gibbering wingnuts at the head of the marching moronic army of stoopid peepul – who are directly responsible for Obama’s surprising win.").....nattering nabobs of negativism!

That phrase was actually formulated by William Safire for disgraced Vice-President Spirio Agnew during the Nixon administration.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/N...

nope, sorry. i see no difference between those on the left comparing denouncers of the prize to the taliban & those on the right doing the same when we criticized bush. totally unintelligent. as a progressive i think this award is a joke. last i checked innocent people are still getting bombed in their sleep in afghanistan & pakistan, and we are still sending millions of dollars a week to the disgusting situation in israel/palestine. by giving obama this award for simply talking a whole lot about peace they are basically betting on his future actions. who knows, maybe it will pressure him into actually putting some action behind all the words.

You may feel a little differently if you watch the video provided above by Shade Tail. Unless your mind is closed to the possibility that Obama has been instrumental in shifting American policy.

The Nobel Committee awards the work, not the necessarily the result.

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Good piece, nonny. Thank you.

and if we were "bombing innocent people in their sleep", Canadians would demand that our Nato troops pull out immediately. But they are not. This phase of the war is a rebuilding of the country after the mess Bush made over there. Obama is doing a good job of cleaning up after the destructive path of the Bush Gang who bombed the shit out of the capital of that country.

this is from may, but my point still stands.

On Monday, up to 100 Afghans lost their lives in a US air strike on Bala Baluk near the Iranian border in Afghanistan. According to the LA Times, “…dozens of people were killed as they sought shelter in a compound in the village of Gerani during coalition airstrikes and that villagers were slowly digging bodies out by hand, with only the most rudimentary of tools at their disposal.” The raid, which is currently under investigation by the Pentagon, could prove to have one of the highest known civilian death tolls since fighting in Afghanistan began in 2001.

http://blog.peaceactionwest.org/2009/05/06/ma...

water boy for Israel, protects Bush and Company from illegal war and torture prosecution, increases wiretapping and data mining, continues to erode the Constitution, rattles his sabers about Iran, gives little help to the destitute masses in his own country while bailing out the financial hucksters, does not renew regulatory restraints of any kind to stem the continual bleeding of Americans wealth, still makes boring pie in the sky, bullshit speeches. This guy is a lightweight spineless shyster. Go ahead believe the fairy tales. Iran and Pakistan are his next victims. Barack Obama appointed eleven members of the Trilateral Commission to top level and key positions in his administration within his first ten days in office. How's that for stacking the deck?

Really? You see no difference at all, do you?

Out of curiosity, are you aware that yesterday, Rush Limbaugh **explicitly** said that he and his dittoheads agree with the Taliban on this? If you don't believe me, you can see it here. Also, back in February, shortly after Obama's inauguration, Rep. Jeff Sessions (R-TX) said that the GOP needs to emulate the Taliban. Did you know about that one?

And those are just two of many examples which show that the left's comparisons are perfectly accurate and justified. On the other hand, kindly show me even one prominent leftist who ever declared bluntly that being on the side of the Taliban and/or emulating them is a good thing. And don't waste my time by nut-picking comments from some wallflower's blog, give me a congresscritter or news pundit or someone else *prominent*.

No difference at all? Please.

Pushing for more progress is one thing, but leave the concern trolling at home while you're at it.

as long as we continue bombing defenseless people & supporting apartheid none of our leaders deserve any type of peace prize.

Tell that to people who disagreed with you on that point. I was sneering at your ridiculously juvenile concern trolling, not differing with your opinion about the peace prize.

what is concern trolling? my reply to you states the same things i posted in my original comment. i didn't know that stating my opinion equals trolling.

HEY

NON SEQUITOR MUCH? address what he said or your worthless 'opinion' holds no clout. Only truth matters.

And it's beyond silly to suggest that Obama can remedy all of the problems Bush has created (and America has created through hundreds of years of imperialism) in 9 months. You can barely grow a baby in that time.

it should be pretty easy to stop bombing the shit out of people & to stop sending cash to people who bomb the shit out of people. i don't know. maybe that's naive? doesn't sound very peaceful to me.

Because there is a very real threat of radical religious extremists scattered throughout the world, and they won't just go away because you wish them to.

I'd say more, but it would be mostly insults, so I'll let you go with this advice: Not everything in the world is cut-and-dried, so learn to accept a little badness now and again.

hey, he was addressing how you see no difference between the criticisms of the left and the right, and provided a good thesis with proof for it.

Good thing for conveniently ignoring anything he said entirely to avoid taking it back because you just don't wanna admit you're wrong.

good sight, so it is not a surprise you can't see the difference. Technically the condition is called reality color blindness (RCB).

Barry In The Bush With Smiles!

Thank you, Nonny..................:)

My congratulations to President Obama and all Americans! Be proud.

the Obama apologists do not have any comeback regarding his campaign of continued war and propping up the banksters who are committing economic genocide against his own people. I suppose we will hear his disciples repeating Repug talking points for want of reasons to condone the Prize.

Are you calling me an "Obama apologist", Queen Steve E? Surely, you jest.

Thanks for the laugh! I enjoyed that.

worried that the Republicans will happily destroy the country if necessary in order to wreck his presidency.

Of course, they never did that to Carter or Clinton.

Really? Have you talked with Obama in person? Did he tell you that he is not concerned?

on this situation.Thanks nonny!

moved from the U.S.A. Reagan more then you could take?

Can't say I blame you.

...because my husband and I wanted to spend a year in Paris. We ended up spending a decade. After my divorce, I moved to Britain. After my master's degree, I moved to New Zealand. There were a lot of reasons why I stayed an ex-pat, none of the initially because I found the States so repugnant - far from it! I loved my country, still do. But every time I go back to visit, it's changed drastically, and not for the better. At the moment, I live in a vibrant country with literate, intelligent people, universal health care, with gorgeous scenery and fresh food to die for. Why should I leave?

front lines and in the trenches with the rest of us poor suckers to save this place.

... I've been in the trenches enough living as an American overseas, being spit on was kind of a biggie for me, thanks.

I'll just keep on trying to improve America's reputation overseas by being one of the 'good' Americans. And besides, I like it too much here, New Zealand is fabulous.

in 89. Now I'm just a fool who regrets missing the chance.

Now were pretty much stuck. The only option now is to "abandon city" to at least have some peace of mind.

You're so devious! I approve. Here's hoping your post goes viral, so that we may all be entertained by the sounds of exploding GOPer heads, once they catch wind of it.

Well said.

Nonny mouse.

I also felt the resentment toward the U.S. in Australia. People would always ask if you're Canadian, because they know they would offend any Canadian by suggesting they might be American. And I've been outright passionately lectured to, despite claiming to be a Bush refugee.

That has changed. People were as or more excited here over Obama's election, and it's clear that he has the momentum to change the world in very positive ways. The mere suggestion that we could live in a nuclear-free world is a major step. He can't shut down Bush's wars overnight, but I certainly believe he wants to, and isn't looking to pick unnecessary fights.

He deserves credit. If only his own country would give it to him.

kicking some butt to line his own caucuses up and force them to pass some real serious legislation that he demands? (see Bush, George W, for illustration. Also, Reagan, Ronald W.; Johnson, Lyndon B.; and Roosevelt, Franklin R.),

the most powerful position in the world, commanding majorities in Congress, an initially adoring public wishing him tons of good will, and all manner of crises to warrant if not demand bold action.

What else does he need?

with all that power & good feelings he shouldn't be half-assing things like health care reform, ending our wars, and repealing DADT

Sorry, but no one expected health care reform to be a snap, nor removing troops from Iraq, nor finding some kind of resolution in Afghanistan.

With regard to the latter, I don't understand the stupidity of some on the left who call for an immediate (or near-term) withdrawal. If you can establish that the western world will be safe if we withdraw, then do so.

If, however, withdrawing now will lead to probable future problems, then getting out of Afghanistan is foolish.

No one disputes that civilian deaths are horrible. No one disputes that the deaths of troops in pursuit of what might be a fruitless cause is horrible. However, I don't think the rationale for getting out of Afghanistan is as clear and defensible as the rationale for getting out of Iraq.

Great Opera House. Nice bridge. But I really liked the botonical gardens best. Oz is lovely, too....

To deserve this award.
But then I started thinking about his international efforts.
He has been trying.There is no doubt about that.
I like the way he handled the withdrawing of missle deliveries in Turkey. He made the Russians happy enough to curtail the sales of certain missle tech and more nuke tech to Iran. That was huge.
I'm still on the fence to say he's accomplished enough to deserve this award to be honest. But, he is communicating with other countries very well. He has made efforts. The world likes us again.
I just wish he would end Afghanistan and Iraq. But that's not so easy either. What do we do if the Taliban and Al Queda topple the capitol of Afghanistan after we leave? What do we do if they do the same shit all over again? I'm all for getting out. But I don't want them to get it in their heads that they can attack us again.
I understand that these elements are all over the world. We can't police the entire planet. I'd like to see us get out of Somalia too.
But, I think Obama is on the right track. But he could take a firmer stand on withdrawing from the Middle East.
Just start negotiations. Bring all parties to the table. Work some kind of deal out. And stop backing Israel blindly. They are a major part of the problem.

He changed the global dialog. That's a good start.

You echo my wishes.

in their own country to open up their wallets and spend our way back to prosperity.

And you know it.
The economy here in Monterey is doing well. But, people on the east coast, say, Virginia might not be doing so well.
New York might be doing ok, while the economy in Montana might kinda slow.
So, I'm all ears.

the water carrier for all the big mega corporations who messed this country up by going offshore with everything.

But I fail to see what this has to do with this thread Evet.

Noble Prize means nothing if there are no real solutions being accomplished.

I refer you to the Turkey missle negotiations with Russia. That was huge.
He has set a deadline for withdrawal from Iraq. That's a step in the right direction. Don't you think? Personally, I'd like to see us just leave Iraq. And if we have to stay in Afghanistan(which I oppose) It should only be as trainers for their military and Police force. With a 16 month window for success. Then an immediate withdrawal.
I realize that there are many of us who aren't very happy with him. But I wonder. Which one of us could take on that job with all the fuck ups left by Bush, and sort it all out, fix everything, and be successful at it in such a short period of time?

righteously I never expected a cardigan sweater administration to perform a miracle instant gratification cleanup.

On the left do.
As for the gOpers. We all know what they're about.
I never expected immediate results either.

Cardigan sweater admin?

Is by stopping the missle deliveries to Turkey, he's gotten Russia to suspend the sales of weapons technology to Iran.
If Iran gets a nuclear weapon. It will start a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. That's all the world needs. So, I think he's done not bad. He could do better. But he's new on the job still.
So I'll continue to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Nothing in Washington or world politics gets done fast.

I understand the hatred coming at Obama from the right because, let's face it, hatred is the biggest arrow in their quiver. It may be the only one, as a matter of fact.

But the anger coming at Obama from the left puzzles me. Lasting results take time, and I'd argue that the more gradually and methodically results are achieved, the more difficult they will be to overturn. I could be wrong, but I'd say that change that comes as a result of a period of national debate is on more solid footing than change that is more or less imposed overnight.

he just so far has managed to not screwed it up like his predecessor. There is a big difference IMHO.

Also, the nomination window was closed less than two weeks into his presidency. Hardly enough time to consider this an award based on performance/achievements.

Whatever the reasons, the fact that there is such level of uncertainty regarding the motive/reasons for this award, to the point that not even the committee which awarded it is having an easy time putting a common reason for the award. Tends to point towards the fact that the prize, if anything was very premature.

Oh, well.

The voting was apparently done sometime last month.

@ the nomination time.

None of the more "established" nobel prices (science and literature) have been awarded for a body of work which happened between the nomination and election time-frame (or after the election time frame for the award for that matter).

Frankly, it seems that sometimes the peace and economics nobel prices are locked in a competition to see which one is the biggest joke. Heck even this year, the chemistry price committee decided to give them both a run for they money by leaving Noller out of the price for the work on the structure of ribosomes...

I had my reservations, because of the ongoing wars. I thought about it all day yesterday.

Seeing the Rachel Maddow clip (posted earlier by Shade Tail), however, changed my mind. The NPP is a recognition of efforts made on behalf of world peace and President Obama deserves it more than anyone else. It's a message of hope that the world is sending him.

And, added bonus, it drives republicans and warmongers crazy!

I think he'll have more than earned it. Provided the GOPers don't get in the way in 2012. I know alot of people are pissed at him for not moving fast enough. But when I look at the flip side, He's better than anything else out there right now.
And all the Paulistas are full of it.

so far in this century. That is however, IMHO, a pretty low standard... clearly not in Nobel peace league standards IMHO.

Furthermore, prizes/awards can't be speculative by definition. However, if this is what takes to force Obama to finally start doing the right thing, then it may be a good thing after all. However, it is the fact that we need to wait for a relative long time to estimate if this price was indeed correctly awarded or not based on Obama's future actions.... it is that fact that sort of tends to point towards the fact that the Norwegians sort of jumped the proverbial gun on this one.

I thought the award was premature. What's done is done, though.

It's the NPP committee's decision.

I am also entitled to my own personal opinion on this matter, one does not negate the other IMHO.

As am I.

To be honest, I think this Nobel Prize was meant to recognize and acknowledge the hard-working, ordinary Americans who voted Obama into office.

It also serves as a reminder to Obama that he needs to do the right thing and end the wars.

validity of the award. The problem as I stated before is with the fact that a lot of things need to happen for that award to carry some justification, so I am afraid the prematurity may do more harm that good.

My main beef with Obama is that we are always left "hoping" but it is what it is. Furthermore, I don't think a society which is currently involved in 2 large scale wars (one of dubious legality, and the other of dubious justification) deserves a "peace nobel price" just because we managed to elect the less bad of the two alternatives. It seems to me to be a monumentally passive way of earning such an accolade.

I used the money to order out a nice steak dinner and a bottle of wine for this home ridden, paraplegic man who lived on my block.

I'd like to see what Obama does with this award. I believe for that he should be judged.

That was a very nice thing to do.

I don't understand all of this domestic furor over our President receiving this award. I hope that it will make him a better man. I mean really, it's not like the Noble people awarded Limbaugh, Beck, or Palin.

"Deserves got nothing to do with it."

Clint Eastwood - "Unforgiven"

Probably the best western of all time.

Me and you sparring back then.
now look at us.:)

Besides, many times I agreed with you.

We've got work to do.
I'm pretty sick and tired of all the nay sayers. They won't even give the man a chance.
I do believe this is indicative of the society we live in now.Instant gratification.
And we both know nothing comes easy. Or fast with regards to Washington.
And with all the bullshit this man inherited with this job, it only sems fitting that he be given a fair chance to do his job.
That's how I feel. That's what I believe.
With regards to this Peace Prize, I do somewhat feel it's a bit premature.
But, President Obama has gotten the world to listen to him. As I said earlier. That in it's self in a major accomplishment. I also think this just proves the world want the US to lead, listen, and be willing to talk. President Obama is just the man for the job. I honestly can't see any other politician being able to accomplish this. This fast. We need to get the naysayers back on board. Midterms are coming. And he needs all the help he can get.

I wish there were more like you :)

I've been reading your comments. And I'd be hard pressed to contradict you.
But I think the thing that Obama has succeeded in , is making other countries more receptive to listening to us now.
I can't really debate you on this. Because I see your points. As they are all valid.
But, by getting the world to be more receptive, that in it's self is an accomplishment.
As I stated above, I'm still on the fence with regards to this award.
And when I said I think he's still better than what's out there right now. I meant not only the previous admin. But All politicians in general.
I do believe that no matter who won the election, they'd all be doing the same thing that he's done so far. With the exception of, The Turkey situation.
I think his hands are tied to a certain extent.
And this is not bringing the gOpers into this at all at this point. That's a whole different story.

My point is, although alot of us aren't completely satisfied with him right now. He's still better than the alternative. So I'll withhold judgment on his Presidency to a later date. It would only be fitting to let him have more time to play out his agenda. Then I'll pass judgment on his accomplishments.

From the perspective of someone who works in environmental planning for a large, federal land-management agency, Obama is already a raging success. It's not the sort of thing that grabs headlines so it escapes most people, but the administration has changed the tone completely from what it was during the Bush years. We won't be seeing any attempts to sell off chunks of federal lands to developers any time soon.

Those of you who criticize Obama because he hasn't moved as fast as you'd like on sexier foreign policy or economic fronts would do well to know that good change has occurred in the day-to-day operations of the government.

is with the clear case of logical dissonance with regard to some of the suppositions on why this award was deserved. In the sense that some people claim a clear record of achievements/intentions to make Mr. Obama deserving of such accolade, and then (in the same breath it seems sometimes) declare that no criticism of Obama is justified, and base that justification on his lack of time in office to be able to deem a clear track record. Which to me sounds like a ridiculous attempt to squash any sort of divergent opinion, and I think the lock stepping marches are better left for the knuckle draggers on the right who have enough difficulty as it is trying to walk and chew gum at the same time.

Trying to diver criticism of Obama due to lack of clear track record, and then at the same time trying to justify an accolade like the Nobel Peace Prize via Obama's intentions... to me seems to be a case of wanting to have it both ways, a characteristic which seems to be as American as apple pie.

That being said, we also need to understand the difference between what I could consider constructive criticism from those on the left (I am not referring to the perennial critics who will bitch no matter what just because that is their only MO), and the clear obstructionism from those on the right.

If I take an issue whenever people try to equate both "criticism" is because to me that is a clear false dichotomy. Some of us want Mr. Obama to succeed because we want this country to succeed.

To see this man for what he is and what he's up against.
In both domestic and international terms.
I do believe he means well. I do believe he has the countries best interest at heart.
I also believe he up against some serious opposition who will resort to anything to stifle him and his view of the way America should be.
I do believe this man believes America is falling short of her domestic responsibilities and, also, her international responsibilities.

I personally would like to see the US with less international responsibilities.
But that's just my own opinion.
But America is what she is. And people look up to her again. This country has done too many things right to be dragged down by her mistakes.
Recently, in the last 50 years, The gOp has been the party that has caused the most damage.
But I'm getting side tracked. I still love this country. Yes, she's made her share of mistakes.
But she also has done a lot of good. With that I will bid you all a good night.
See ya next time folks. Be Well.

I could not disagree more with such a bold statement. Especially when we consider that his nomination happened a few days after he took office.

Just curious.

of my head.

Fantastic!

"..along with all those who cheered when Chicago lost the Olympics.."

See,that is what makes this honor doubly sweet.
Limbaugh,while pretending to find the award "hilarious" is in reality seething with bug eyed rage,as is his little buddy Glenn.
They both delighted in Chicago's Olympic failure,but most folks have come to realize the folly in betting against a man like the President.
This Nobel prize turned the tables on those clowns 180 degrees and it's just eatin' their lunch.Obama meanwhile,has taken the whole thing in stride with utter class.
Now That is hilarious.

... they were never ours to lose. We just weren't awarded them.

I'm one of the people who didn't understand how he could have won, based on some of the things he's supported, (bear in mind saying someone doesn't deserve the NPP, isn't the same as viciously attacking him.) But that was before I understood the NPP WAS political. I didn't know that.

have been honored with the prize well before their efforts were fruitful - Desmond Tutu was honored years before SA changed it's laws and eradicated apartheid. It's not a sports contest in which nominees are awarded points for making goals....!

Nobel's will, which established the basic criteria, says that what we now call the 'Peace Prize' should be presented to a person for 'the best or most work for fraternity between nations; for reduction of standing armies; or, for promotion of peace congresses'.

I believe it it the first criteria which was most considered in Obama's case - with the hope that achievement of the second and third might sooner be achieved.

I hope the Nobel selectors are prescient.

did Nobel make? Must have been good money in dynamite and armaments in his day or he had a damn good business manager.

and popular in Norway and the Norway Storting selects the Peace prize winner . .

LOL

you've never heard of endowments - wherein the principal of one's estate is invested in order to earn interest, the interest is used to fund the prizes. This is the way most all colleges and other non-profits handle their finances to benefit the most people.

You should leave your computer for a few minutes one day and get out to see and learn about the world.

before passing judgment on me. Whats your credentials in the complex world of economics and finance?

You could have left the snide remark-attack out and we would have been fine.

Not an attack - just a suggestion.

Nothing against the guy, but I don't think he has done anything yet to warrant receiving this award. I hope he will eventually, but he hasn't yet.

I'm not buying all this stuff about the award for "prospective efforts" or whatever they call it.

Frankly, I think this will be a problem for him. The expectations are already so high that I don't think any mortal could meet them - the Nobel Committee just trebled these expectations. This medal is likely to turn into Republican ammo in two years when the run-up to the elections begins and the economy is still shaky, Afghanistan and Iraq are still a mess, and Israel and Palestine are still killing each other's children.

Alfred Nobel invented dynamite. Lets hope the award doesn't blow up in Obama's face.

...Obama won the prize because of what the international community hopes he will do, and if the pressure of living up to Nobel Peace Prize standards helps? Well, all the better.

But it's also because the committee had to give it to an individual, instead of the people I suspect they thought had really earned it - all us Americans who voted this guy in, along with voting a whole lot of Republican politicians out. We as a nation won this.

Americans aren't going to sit around much longer watching their futures dwindle away.

Frankly, I don't think we as a nation deserve it (yet) either.

While I am happy not to have to pretend to be Canadian when I travel now - I don't think we have yet crossed the threshold of deserving an award. The world is still a mess and we haven't done much to fix it. I don't think it's realistic to expect us to have yet, and hopefully under Obama's leadership we will.

I just don't think you deserve awards for good intentions or the hopes based on them or changing the tenor of the dialogue.

When Iraqi, Palestinian, etc. kids don't have to worry about getting blown to bits - that's the time to hand out awards.

If he was given the prize in the hope of future performance, then its valid to also say he doesn't deserve it. Yet.

Also want to point out in defense of those who say he doesn't deserve it. There is a huge difference between saying, based on the short record of his accomplishments that he is undeserving of winning the worlds most prestigious award, (as many on the left and right are saying) and being angry, dismissive and disrespectful that he won. I've seen many commenters on forums lump the two together.

The day Obama gets the NPP, America bombs the moon.

an interesting throwaway line: "However, Arafat’s and Kissinger’s detractors were their already sworn enemies, primarily Israel, so no real surprise there." Kissinger's award had nothing to do with Israel. His was awarded for securing the truce that led to the end of the Vietnam war. The Isreali's didn't have much to say about it. Arafat's was shared with two, not one, Israeli politicians, Peres and Rabin and the Israelis were, on the whole, extremely pleased with the recognition of the progress being made toward peace by the prize selection committee. Essentially that throwaway line was gratuitous bullshit.

I'm pretty startled to see the way comments are running here. No I don't like the looney right either. But even a broken clock... Obama's Nobel isn't quite as grotesque as Kissinger's, but this is an award based entirely on the Nobel committee's liking the character that Obama plays on tv. The reality is escalating war in Afghanistan, and refusal to investigate eight years of war crimes with disingenuous rhetoric about "facing forward." Knock it off with the cheerleading. This award is absurd.

It's an award...that's it. Perhaps you might want to take up your complaint with people who gave it to the President.

wtf does this line mean?

"However, Arafat’s and Kissinger’s detractors were their already sworn enemies, primarily Israel"

arafat was an admitted terrorist and murderer...kissinger, one of the architects of murder in nam and of the secret bombings in cambodia

the nobel peace prize has been a joke for years

thank you

Regardless of whether you think Obama deserves the prize or not, can't we as a nation just be gracious that our president was honored?

As my parents used to tell me, when someone honors you or gives you a compliment, don't argue with them, thank them..

Speaking of which, Obama was classy and gracious in his remarks about winning the award.

A true gentleman.

Clearly, the award was partially to them for having the sense to put Obama in the WH instead of Gramps and that psycho bitch from AK.

to all of the people ragging on Obama for the wars he inherited, the man has only been in office for 8 freakin months! Give Obama a break. You're sounding just like the tea baggin idiots.
Give him some credit for the good he has done...and for the good he will do. Can you even imagine having to work with the Party of NO every freakin day?

yes, he did inherit two disastrous wars, and he should have the balls to stop them immediately. meanwhile people's countries are being continually torn apart and more & more young men throughout the muslim world are turning to jihad.

Dude, the guy has a lot of work to do and a hell of a lot to live up to...we understand(Btw, don't we all?).

But to suggest Obama pulls out of both theatres immediately makes way less sense than Obama receiving an award he didn't campaign for.

What are you, 12?
Have you ever studied military history, the theories of warfare and the writings of Sun Tzu and Clausewitz? If you HAD, you wouldn't be so naive as to think one can just snap one's fingers and end a war. And even if one could, there is the whole issue of the post-war reconstruction, and how to disengage for withdrawal without casting the whole of the region into anarchy.

You, young sir, are far too idealistic for your own good. What have YOU done to stop the wars and prevent the jihad? Mmmm?

... O'Reilly has already declared the end of the Peace Prize, because they are dopes.

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Another of Obama's efforts (as yet incomplete, of course) is the loosening of the screws on US relatives communicating with their family members in Cuba.

Might seem insignificant to most of us, but to those it impacts, I guarantee it means a lot.

I would say Obama won the Prize for giving the World new hope
For putting the Climate back on the Agenda
For reintroducing diplomacy as a tool to settle international dispute
To give him more Pondus to stand up against the warmongers in Israel and US.
But most of all he was rewarded for not being Bush.

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You link to a story about Rep. Trent Franks and his continuing attempts to "prove" that Obama isn't a citizen. Give it up already, sunshine. And, to make matters worse, the article includes info on donating to a fund to continue this charade!

Just....go away. Your kind enrages me such that I would gladly tan your hide just for breathing my air.

I guess the World is caught up with Obama. The problem is that he has accomplished nothing. The prize is a continuation of the Europeans trying to make us feel warm and fuzzy. If he was nominated after he had accomplished something I might take notice but this is a joke.

And not forgetting of course, ( according to the BBC News ) for the Nobel process for the prize, Obama would have been nominated for it, 8 days into his presidency.
La rue

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