December 14, 2022

Morning Joe continues to pull apart the Jan. 6th texts that were revealed by Talking Points Memo this week.

"In another message, Raffensperger is told to find the exact number needed to reverse Joe Biden's 2020 win in the state," Mika Brzezinski said.

TRUMP: So look, all I want to do is this. I just want to find -- ah -- 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state, and flipping the state is a great testament to our country. The people of Georgia are angry. The people of the country are angry, and there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated, because -- 2,236 in absentee ballots, they're all exact numbers that were done by accounting firms, law firms, et cetera, and even if you cut them in half, cut them in half and cut them in half again, it's more votes than we need!

RAFFENSBERGER: Well, Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong.

They all proceeded to crack up.

"We all grew up and we'd see reruns of Perry Mason, where someone breaks down on the bench. And there would be the smoking gun. There's always a smoking gun," Scarborough said.

"The first thing every law professor taught you was, this ain't Perry Mason. There's never a smoking gun. You got to piece your case together. The depositions, the interrogatories, piece by piece, bit by business and over time if you work hard enough -- you'll get the theory of the case, and you'll prevail in court.

"This is straight out of Perry Mason. Like, Donald Trump is, 'I want you to steal this election for me. Get this many votes.' It's really shocking!" Then he said he thought there was a prima facie case to indict Trump.

"Well, we know that Jack Smith, the special counsel, is talking to Brad Raffensperger. Going to talk to Raffensperger, an indication that's where the Justice Department is looking," Willie Geist said.

"If this were Perry Mason, would the writers take a week off? Can't just have the guy say it on the phone, and there he did and reported it to Raffensberger, who recorded the phone call because he expected Donald Trump would do something like this."

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